Since when did cut scenes count as gameplay?

Sarcasticgamer.com writes: "Right now, I'm about 25% thorough Act 4 of MGS 4. Without counting the cut scenes, I estimate that my ACTUAL playtime, where I'm actually moving Snake around, is some where between 5 and 7 hours. Maybe more, maybe less. The problem is: There's only one act left. That means that there's, at best, 4 more hours of gameplay left.... Hopefully?

So how the heck did this game get billed as a 40 hour gameplay experience?"

[resistance100]

It never got billed as 40 hours of gameplay.

OPM stated it took 29hours to complete with 9hours of cutscenes.

Now if you take your time thats about right, or you can rush through and complete it in around the 16hour mark.

[LGFreedom]

I'm gonna finish this game in 10 hours... maybe less, OPM is either lying or playing with one hand...

[DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl]

I know what you mean I beat mass effect in 15 min. with a blindfold on while juggling hand grenades

[Delriach]

I beat the game on Hard in 23 hours. Quite fun. The gameplay is as long as you make it depending on how you play. That's how MGS games generally have been.

[Winter47th]

Doesn't matter whether you debate that cut scenes should be part of the gameplay as a whole or not, or should be counted as total gameplay hours.

MGS is a wonderful experience that won't be complete without the amazing cut scenes or the fun gameplay, combine those two in one game and you've perfection, that's what mainly separates MGS from the clones, the degree of care and dedication put into it by Kojima and his crew.

[Coheno]

.... it isn't 40 hours, it's 20 hours if you rush it through. But if you want to see every corner, help all the militia and so on, it will take somewhat longer...

and anyway... who cares!? If you enjoy MGS, you enjoy the cutscenes... why is this such a suprise to everyone!?

@DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl

Bravo! ;) :D

[FordGTGuy]

know that in order to get the big boss face camo you have to beat the game on the hardest difficulty in 5 hours w/o killing or getting an alert.

[barom]

I don't think anyone has billed it as 40 hours of gameplay. I think most of them said something along the lines of "40 hours first playthrough".

[Dark General]

Act 3 last night and i have a total of 18 and a half hours put in. I'm more than sure that at least 14 of those hours were from playing the game. It's tooken me extremely long to take out the bosses with my tranquilizer gun, in fact the first boss i took over 2 hours to beat with my tranquilizer gun. I think like most said it depends on how you play the game. MGS is a STEALTH game first and foremost even though you can gun through the game. Though by doing that you won't get the satisfaction of sneaking through a heavy gaurded area not even being spotted once.

[likeaboss302]

I beat the game a little under 17 hours on Solid Normal and certainly didn't "rush" through it. I took my time, continue a few times as well along the way and watched the cutscenes.

[mistertwoturbo]

The thing is, the cutscenes are intertwined with the gameplay. If it was 95% gameplay and 5% cutscenes, then it wouldn't be a metal gear game. Lovers wanna love, Haters wanna hate.

[issa3032]

This guy is so full of ish. I've just finished Act 2 of 5 and my playtime is almost 9 hours. This game looks to be about 20 hours to complete. BTW, if you haven't noticed the SAVE FILE TIME DOESN'T include cutscenes. So when it says 9 hours playtime, then you've actually played 9 hours.

[BLuKhaos]

Wow what difficulty are you playing it in? and are you using the pistol or the sniper?,it took me 20 min to beat both pars of the first boss with the tranquilizer sniper on Solid normal.Now I'm going for my third play through with no alerts on on very easy(I'm in a hurry) and them i will go through it on the hardest difficulty.

[Tarasque]

Well i beat it in little over 11 hour's on normal. But if you can skip past something in a game, be it cut scene's or level's. That is not gameplay cause you have an option of passing it. Gameplay hour's should be based on actual gameplay hour's. I am sure if they would have said actual gameplay hour's would have been 10 to 15 hour's, there would have been a big lash out.

[likeaboss302]

Again how can some disagree with how long it took me to play the game. Did they watch me from start to finish? Some people on this site kill me.

[Retro-Virus]

Why skew facts eh ?

No one ever said it took 40 hrs, 29 hours was the OPM editors' take.

It took me about 30 hrs to finish.

[REbirth]

i disagree with your disagrees:S :P

[BulletToothtony]

Lono is getting flamed over there.. lol good.. he always has crap to say about ps3 games anyways.. time for haters to move on..

[Fishy Fingers]

LOL... Even sarcastic gamer are scrapping the barrel here. Funny that their review said that would give it 10/10.

I'll enjoy listening to people moan who havent played the game here.

Edit, LGFreedom (1.1 in gamer zone) is talking absolute rubbish! AKA lying, I've nearly completed it 3 times, Normal = 22 hours, hard = 27 hours... Extreme = not there yet (very hard surprisingly).

[PoSTedUP]

im at act 4 and its been 19 hours.....lol i take my time : P

did you know you can get laffin octopuses face camo : P

[resistance100]

It took me 16 hours 28mins on Naked Normal

[chewy317]

nah those guys there are pros at mgs thats why they can complete it so quickly

[syanara]

why does this matter anyways? why does it matter how long the gameplay is? its still great gameplay and anything 10 hours an over is good in my book not to mention mgo so why does this matter!?

[Vojkan]

Guy from Gamespot said 39 hours, but he was playing slowly, looking and going everywhere. Sarcastic gamer is know for hating Sony so dont pay attention

[Pornlord]

Most of the flagship members of his site are Xboxgamer and X play 360 oriented members. He's a little biased, but he did say that he would give the game a 10/10 if he gave scores.

[Caxtus750]

where did you get that they hate sony from??

They have their own podcast dedicated to Sony which is more than they have for the 360 and Wii. Almost all the hosts from the podcasts own a PS3 too.

I think the phrase is Epic Fail or perhaps just retarded. Enjoy the 2 bubbles ;)

[Pornlord]

Well, I am at the 30 hour mark, but the first time through, I am killing EVERY PERSON AND ROBOT I SEE. Then I'm gonna go through it tranq and sneak method, and finish the game without no more than 5 Alert phases per chapter (tedioius but fun) This game is as long as you want it to be. You can rush through, but you will miss some cool scenes and some easter eggs if you do. Very high replay value for me.

[himdeel]

...killing everything! You sir get a gold star for the day! I'm still having fun playing through MGS3 Snake Eater

[highdro]

the cutsence in this game is somethig u can only see in a hollywood movie, ...look at the vamp vs raiden fight and the cutscence that makes u feel for snake and niamoe,...and the bike mission was like a cutscence but u could still shoot and intarct with the game.......... this is the best game i have ever played in a long time, i can only imagine how GOD OF WAR 3 will look like after seeing what the ps3 can do with mgs4.>>>>> best graphics on a console to date i dont care what any body tells me because i have the game and i have playd it for my self and i love every thing about it !

[Black_Jack]

hell yeah, i second that this game does have the best graphics iv seen this generation so far. also take note of the detail and care with sound and music, its just an immersive experience and i'm glad i got the oppertunity to play it. yes i said play because thats wot i did for 25 hours. playing through it again on big boss extreme stealth style gonna take me 40 hours for sure.

[Tarasque]

You meant to say, "I THINK IT HAS THE BEST GRAPHIC'S TO DATE". It is a opinion, i think the game look's good but not the best by anymean's. Very solid game with some very good moment's.

[socomnick]

Bravo bravo finally someone finally says it. Cut the cutscene crap already it was like a 10 hour game without the cutscenes.

[Bigrhyno]

That's not a bad thing to me.

[socomnick]

Yea I would agree but it becomes a problem when the cutscenes become redundant and repetitive. Like was it really necessary to have a cutscene of laughing beauty laugh for 7 minutes.

[Drekken]

Longer, better, and more immersing then any movie I have seen in AGES.

[socomnick]

When have you seen a movie with 7 minutes of constant laughing and a amazingly corny ending. OR one that every 10 minutes begins to name random acronyms like mgs 4 does.

[poopsack]

ya know what socomnick, you can trade in your games at gamestop!

[d3l33t]

Is Final Fantasy much different? And FF is considered some of the best games around...

Yes MGS4 left me craving more gameplay, but i LOVE the voice acting and story telling. That's what MGO is for :P

[d3l33t]

you people cant make up your mind...

GTA IV - Not enough story development and cut scenes
MGS4 - Too many cut scenes, we want more gameplay

[Pp p]

it took me 9hrs and 20min to finish mgs4

[Fishy Fingers]

Lies...

Take a picture of the completion screen that shows total hours and post it up if your not?

(you'd realise it had that screen if you'd completed the game)

Dont you think it's rather weird you clicked on here just to lie about a computer game?? Jealously can do strange things.

[juuken]

...You don't own a PS3 so quit lying while you're ahead.

[DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl]

you mean it took you that long to realize it doesn't play on your 360! Okay I can believe that!

[steck67]

I dont mind the cutscenes because they are actually worth watching. Some people who are complaining about the length; most are people who rushed through the game. Im in act 4 and im 13 hours into the game and so far I enjoy the game.

[Mr PS3]

PpPPp Brain

[AllseeingEye]

We that own MGS4 and are playing it shouldnt even comment on threads like this because it keeps them around. We all know the game is amazing and we all love the cut scenes and we all have varied gameplay hours. WHO CARES. Leave these stupid articles alone and go onto playing Metal Gear. Next.

[LGFreedom]

The author is just asking a question.... Gotta love the fanboys... Always ready to go off the deep end at any questioning of their Metal Gear Jesus... LOL

[VaeVictus]

buy why do that? The game is fun. It is about being stealthy. I try to explore as much as I can while picking my spots to fight. I expect to get 20+ hours of gameplay out of it b/c I am in no rush to finish it. It is the best game I've played in a long time...definitely the best since Mass Effect. B/c I have a bigger attachment to Snake, it's better IMO than Mass Effect.

[rhood022]

my first play through was about 26 hours and that was doing and seeing everything I could.

The second time through, with the carry-overs, I'm looking at about 14-17 hours. And that is skipping over many of the cutscenes and going from point A to B in a timely manner.

You can infact play over thirty hours in the game, there is even an emblem that you can get from doing so. Similarly there are many emblems for beating it under 6 hours.

In short, MGS is as long as you're willing to invest in it. Period.

[Captain Tuttle]

Some of the report comments are funny though. Fanboys.

[tweaker]

"billed as 40 hour gameplay"

Wow! Serious exaggeration.

I never once heard about the 40 hour gameplay for MGS4. What I heard was 20 hours of gameplay and 9 hours worth of cut-scenes. This guy is trying hard to downplay MGS4.

[Euphrate]

If they had played the game, they'd know that the cut-scenes are GAMEPLAY. Act 3 confirms this.

[PSWe60]

9 hours in and in the middle of act 3. Kick A$$ game though

[Xi]

Is that it doesn't properly use the medium to tell the story.

The story in a game needs to unfold around the player, like in cod4 and half-life. Relying on cutscenes is so last gen and that should really be reflected in the scores.

Lots of people can make an interactive movie, where people have to preform an action to get to the next scene, but only few can make a game and story revolve around the character without relying on them.

[littletad]

That are engaging. Such as when you Meet Big Mama. And I have to admit the cut-scene to gamepplay mechanic is pulled off incredibly well in some moments, but the sheer length of cut-scenes is a criticism regardless.

[juuken]

And more exaggerations on the cutscenes!
People seem to forget that you can actually skip them if you can't stand seeing them!

[littletad]

And realized If anyone did this, you'd have almost no clue what the plot is or why your even shooting someone. But this is thinking in the shoes of someone who just wants to play an action game. Obviously, this game was meant for the fans. Good as that might be for us, it's plot would be too confusing for anyone who hadn't played the previous games. So I guess, sadly it's criticism is justified and it's brilliance is realized by the fans.

[Meus Renaissance]

I've been playing for around 18 hours and I think around 60% of that was cut-scenes. Although coming nearer to the game, I appreciate it now for that - its truly a masterpiece. The mission briefs, however, I just skip.

[littletad]

GTA4? people loved it during it's initial launch and maybe two weeks after, then everyone started feeling the same symptoms everyone felt with big game franchises. Boredom and over-obsessive critique. It's true MGS4 has far too many cut-scenes and less gameplay, but what other game out there actually has you glued to the screen in light of cut-scenes to begin with?

[Xi]

half life 2, cod4, and halo 3 to name a few.

[Close_Second]

...had crap cut scenes other than the nuclear blast. COD4 also has one of the most forgettable single player experiences out there. COD4 has always been about on-line play which seems strange given the inept lobby system the game was released with.

Halo 3...I'll agree with you to some extent but there was no real character development in the game. However, MGS4, regardless of their length, features some of the best and most interesting cut scenes I have ever seen in a game.

[Close_Second]

...and have just started Act III. How many acts does the game have??

My biggest problem with the game is that I will have to get through it and it will end. As this is the first MGS game I have ever owned or played to any extent I'm constantly being blown away by it.

As for the cut scenes, I don't know the back story but wow, they are fantastic and focus on story telling as well as some deep character development. I have not skipped one cut scene nor have I been bored watching them.

[oliverasadi]

the cut scenes are the best cutscenes ive ever seen.

[SacT0wnF1n3st]

isn't that true to all games? Without cut scenes the gaming experience will be shorter? isn't that true? I think so.

MGS is known for having a great story line and that is why cut scenes is one of the factors that made the MGS franchise the way it is today.

I'm paraphrasing from GameSpot they said that you can skip the cut scenes if you want to but you will miss a big part of the story in MGS 4 and I absolutely agree.

[CViper]

Why don't idiots just skip the scenes?
"buh buh i wanna get the story" Then WATCH them until you get enough story. THEn skip. The majority are skipable.

I hate when non fans of the game talk crap about it. I LOVE the cut scenes, it adds to the entire gaming experience. You don't rush through MGS4 you try to beat it by being the most stealth you can.

Yeah you CAN rush through it, just like you CAN get a Kobe Beef Steak Well done.

MGS4 is the best game many people have played this generation. Sad that everyone can't get into it because they are too used to nonsensical button mashing and a short Halo3 like single player.

[SmokeyMcBear]

kobe beef... well done??? BLASPHEMY

[etownone]

sounds like a great game.

if it is 10 hours of cut scenes and 10 hours of gameplay...
thats still not bad for gameplay, and the cut-scenes sounds like a moive experience which is different for a game and a bonus. But if they are boring like this guy said, then that would suck.

best games this gen are less than 10 (Halo 3, COD4, Uncharted) unless its a RPG or GTA :)

[Andras84]

Now I'm playing on the hardest difficulty and I'm sure it will take a hell of a lot longer..
Also if you are at act 4 and 25% done and all you have is 5hours of gameplay you probably just rushed trough every single level..not sneaking at all just run and gun, probably on the easiest difficulty.

I don't understand how can anyone disagree with what I said :D

[LGFreedom]

From what I know, the writer played it on normal, did a lot of run and gun and watched every cut scene. I don't understand why the fanboys can't even comprehend a question centered on this game...

I mean, who can argue that the cut scenes in the game aren't ridiculously long.... LOL at the N4G fanboy nerds.

[White-Sharingan]

the person who wrote this obviously never played MGS

[Figboy]

in 22 hours and 45 minutes.

with the exception of the ending cutscene, i didn't even notice the LENGTH of them, i was too caught up in the awesome epicness of the game. the only reason i noticed the length of the last cutscene (which is NOT 90 minutes long), is because it was 6:30 in the morning, and me and my fiance were tired as hell (she just HAD to see the ending, which i have to say, made her cry. in fact, she cried numerous times during the game. she even went so far as to say that "this is the best game ever made," and she didn't even TOUCH the controller ONCE! she's a gamer, and she's watched me play all the Metal Gears, and thinks Snake is the most bad@ss guy around, so her opinion has weight to me. well, that, and she lets me touch her boobs. lol).

i'm on my second playthrough of MGS4 now, and as much as i want to, i STILL can't skip the cutscenes. they are just too amazing. some of the codec conversations i'll fast-forward (not skip), but the cutscenes are works of art. works of gorgeous, melodramitic art, but art nonetheless.

i have to say that the production values of this game rival that of any summer block-buster i've seen, and the way that it intermingles the gameplay and cinematics is fantastic.

it certainly didn't FEEL like there was more cutscenes than gameplay, and the maps in this game are HUGE! there are so many different ways to move through the areas, and so many different ways in which you want to tackle the enemy via stealth or confrontations. and the weapon customization adds some surprising depth to the gameplay, not to mention the number and variety of the weapons and items you get.

and anyone who thinks that it's JUST sneaking around will be pleasantly surprised later on. LOTS of intense moments.

it's truly a masterpiece, and genuinely worthy of the praise it gets, unlike ANOTHER game that released in April (which i happen to love also, but MGS4 blows it away in every category), and received quite the ball-licking and perfect scores by the gaming media.

MGS4 is an instant classic in every since of the words, and the PS3 haters need to just accept it and move on. it's not the only great game on the PS3, as those who have actually played one can attest to, but it's almost certainly the BEST.

here at Vivendi, most, if not ALL of my co-workers and their friends, roommates, are trying to hunt down PS3/MGS4 bundles, or just picking up the system and game separately.

hell, one of the guys i was talking to this morning doesn't even HAVE a Playstation 3, but he picked up MGS4 because he had to play it, and he only plays a little bit at work, on the dev PS3. he says he'll try and pick up a PS3 of his own asap, but at the moment, he can't.

this game can, will, and HAS sold Playstation 3s.

i have to agree with my fiance that it's a "masterpiece." it truly is, and should silence ANYONE who questioned how powerful the Playstation 3 is, and how viable it is as a games console.

it ain't just a Blu Ray player folks.

[LGFreedom]

It's a blu ray player and it plays MGS4... You're fracking brilliant!

[Figboy]

and Ninja Gaiden Sigma
and Heavenly Sword
and Warhawk
and Unreal Tournament 3
and Folklore
and Motorstorm
and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue and eventually Gran Turismo 4
and Ratchet and Clank Future
and Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
and Metal Gear Solid 4

and soon it will play

Final Fantasy XIII
Killzone 2
SOCOM: Confrontation
SOCOM (from original developers Zipper Interactive)
White Knight Story
Heavy Rain
LA Noire
Wipeout HD
Twisted Metal PS3
Motorstorm 2
Resistance 2
Uncharted 2
Ratchet and Clank Future "2"
Jak and Daxter PS3
Team Ico's TWO Playstation 3 projects
God of War 3

and many more.

the Playstation 3 is a games console, and has always been a games console. the games are using the Blu Ray disc, and last time i checked, titles like Uncharted, Ratchet, Heavenly Sword, and MGS4 were using more than just 15 gigs of space (Uncharted 24gigs, Ratchet 22gigs, Heavenly Sword about 15gigs, MGS4 close to 50gigs). having played the games above (the ones released, obviously), on my 40" 720p Samsung, i can say that they are doing SOMETHING with that extra space.

that fact that more and more games are requiring more storage space is standard procedure as far as the gaming industry goes.

the NES had larger capacity cartridges than the Atari. this lead to more data being stored on the cartridge, and in conjunction with the powerful hardware, resulted in better, more complex games (Super Mario Bros 1-3, The Legend of Zelda. Ninja Gaiden with it's groundbreaking for console's cinematic presentation and many more).

the SNES had a larger capacity cartridge than the NES. this lead to more data being stored on the cartridge, and in conjunction with the powerful hardware, resulted in better, more complex games (Super Mario World, Pilotwings, Castlevania IV, Chrono Trigger, etc).

the Playstation had the CD format, which was larger than the SNES and N64 cartridges. this lead to more data being stored on the disc, and in conjunction with the powerful hardware, resulted in better, more complex games (Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Final Fantasy VII, Resident Evil 1-3, etc).

the Playstation 2 had the DVD format, which was larger than the Playstation 2's CDs. this lead to more data being stored on the disc, and in conjunction with the powerful hardware, resulted in better, more complex games (Grand Theft Auto 3, Metal Gear Solid 2-3, God of War 1 and 2, Shadow of the Colossus, etc). as an aside to this, many very early Playstation 2 games were on CDs (Ico, Dark Cloud), even the first Lego Star Wars game was on a CD. eventually, DVD became the standard game media with 4gigs of space. with games like God of War 2 however, a 9gig dual layer disc was needed (and even on a dual layer DVD, God of War 2 STILL required a second DVD to store all the extra features).

so, what your implying is that DVD, a FILM media initially, wasn't useful to the gaming industry?

are you implying that the need for a larger capacity disc isn't an IMPROVEMENT to the gaming industry, despite what over 20 years of history has shown us?

if 9gigs was pushing the Playstation 2 of all consoles, what makes any of you think that the 7.5gigs the 360 uses will ALWAYS be enough?

isn't it better to be safe than sorry? wouldn't it have been smarter to have that safeguard of having MORE disc space, you know, JUST IN CASE?

i mean, the PS3 will NEVER have to worry about running out of room to store game data, if and when it becomes an absolute necessity for a larger disc to be used. we already have developers stating the limitations and cuts they have to make to games these days.

anyway, here's a simple timeline:

1985-1990 - NES - Cartridge
1990-1995 - SNES - Bigger Cartridge (more room)
1995-2000 - Playstation - CD (more room)
2000-2005 - Playstation 2 - DVD (more room 9gig dual layer)
2005-Present - Xbox 360 - DVD (less room 7.5gig dual layer)!!
2006-Present - Playstation 3 - Blu Ray (25, 50, and eventually 100gigs. a LOT of room).

see my point?

[devilhunterx]

I have been searching for all the extra goodies, so I finally finished ACT 1 in 2 days. Yea I got a job and a life. Bite me.

[SmokeyMcBear]

but they count mass effect's meaningless dialogue that has absolutely no change on gameplay what so ever right?

[Aclay]

If this guy is rushing through the game and is shooting every person in sight, then yes, it's possible to beat a Metal Gear Solid game really fast, but that is not the way to play a Metal Gear Solid game. And it's obvious that the guy is doing little to no exploration at all.

I've heard some reviewers say that they had spent 4 hours just playing Act 1, and everyone plays games differently, but most of the reviewers have said that MGS4 is about a 20 hour game. Plus, once you beat MGS4 one time, your journey has just begun because MGS4 is a game that was meant to be played more than one time. But, only the die-hard Metal Gear fans will be playing the game over again to unlock all of the tons of secrets in the game and MGS4 has plenty of replay value.

[xunderx]

If you can complete the game quickly w/ minimum cautions, minimum kills and also using cqc plus special items.....YOUR GOOD,

Finding all the easter eggs in the game, should keep you bz for a while.

it took me 22 hours, in normal mode.

For my second time around, i'm only using mk gun w/as many headshots as possible, minimize my kills/cautions/alerts etc.. and skipping most cut scenes. This should lower hours played.

Third time around, gonna try to sharpen my cqc skills

[Dave2001]

The cutscenes in MGS4 are very boring NG2 has cutscenes which are 10 times better and it has a story which is 100 times better than any of the MGS games.

[rhood022]

Im sorry but that is the funniest thing I've heard or read today.

DMC had a better story than NG 1 and 2.

[JagX22]

I read here on N4G that in total there was 20 hours of actual game play. I assume that means for those of you who play the game thoroughly. Thoroughly meaning, takes the time out to explore the nooks and crannies of every area. I don't know who came up with 40. Also, Metal Gear games on average probably run around 15-18 hours on average anyway. Also, anybody who has followed the series knows right off the bat that the games all have long cut scenes, so immediately upon the purchase this thought will already be in the minds of most fans. Just take the time to sit back, enjoy and appreciate the cut scenes. I have yet to even play the game, but I sure know what to expect.

[TripleTags]

PRICK!

[gnothe1]

my first MG game an the cut scenes are actually pretty entertaining. its taking me about 4 an a half hours per act an I'm on act 4 now. its reading about 15 hours.

[da7dal]

First play through it took me 23hrs to finish because I took my time and watched all the cut scenes... second playthorugh I skipped ALL the cut scenes and finished it at 9hrs I thought it was a little short but the game is superb

[BlackCountryBob]

MGS is one of those games that you can play however you want, you could clock it in 10hrs but then you wont be getting all the depth of entertainment that MGS gives, personally I am 12 hrs in act 4 and I have been playing 'quick' because I am gripped by the story and am dying to know the end. I am gonna play through at least another 2 times through though so who cares!

When did this mythical hour count become so important; I noticed last year when Heavenly Sword came out that this thing became important suddenly for some reason; quality not quantity folks!

[Sprudling]

This is my first MGS, and it took me a little over 8 hours to complete act 1. And what's wrong with long cutscenes? I love every second of them.

[Asurastrike]

I'm 12 hours into it and only just started act 3.

[Ali_The_Brit]

im nearly finished on the game....i cant remember the hours so far but i think its around 16

[felidae]

best games of this generation:

1. Bioshock
2. MGS4
3. Gears Of War

[Mikey Mike]

The game is 80 percent movie, 10 percent loading, and 10 percent game play. I have played the series since the 80s, and I was let down, the story was great, but I wanted a game, not an interactive movie!

[G1TR4P3D]

lmfao . owned. sorry, droids. enjoy your movie player!

[PSMonster21]

GETPWND, another account, really?

[DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl]

while you GIT RAPED im sure there is someting your good at but you
G1t r4p3d
suck at life!

[Bizmal]

MGS4 rocked. It's where games are going. Buy Msg4!

[phalanges]

if you wanted to, sneak to every corner, collect every item, take down every enemy (by tranq., head shot, CQC).

[Mr Fancy Pants]

MGS4 defines the word epicness.

[ElementX]

...

[TheExecutive]

who fricken cares, the cutscenes are awe inspiring.

[Egzekutor]

At least it doesnt repeat all the same sh1t all the time like GTA IV did... All you did in GTA 4 at the end is chase a car -> eliminate target.. get to a location -> eliminate target. The same thing repeated for many hours.. GTA 3 and Vice City had a much better story than GTA IV.

[Neo604]

that gameplay alone can make up for all the long cutscene.

[yanikins111]

FALE

[Infinite-Ammo]

The cutscenes are what make MGS4 an absolutely brilliant expereince in seeing how the story unfolds.

[Mr_Luke]

Damn... i'm on the 3rd act, the beginning and... 19 hours...

[SuperSharpShooter]

N4G....i laugh at your topics of discussion...really,lol,is this what its come too?..MG4 has more than double gameplay in it than 95% of games out there,lets leave it there shall we......

XBL = supasharpshoter
PSN = supasharpshoter

[ToeKneeHaze]

Is better than your generic dull HALO and GTA4

[Blackcanary]

This is one of the greatist games i've played this year.
Its funny how when it comes TO a PS3 Exclusive it gets bashed like crazy
But when it comes to 360 games do u ever see these types of Articles No people need to get over it and stop trying to make a great fantasic game look like its crap.

[highdro]

u seem to be also forgetting that all the mgs games have always had long cutscense,.....dont write a post if u dont know any thing about the mgs games, mgs is know for its stealth, cutscence,and story telling in dialoges that way it caputures the true fans of the game more.,....one more thing if u dont like the cutscence then just skip the damn thing,......every one wants to find somethin bad to say about mgs4,if it is not the revies are fake it is the game is only 33g or the story is to complex ,....shut the f up all u mgs and sony haters, i have the game and i love every single second of it,...this is not like gta4 that was over hyped mgs4 lived up to the hyped when we finaly played and i love the game so all this negative news post about from people bashing the game dose not mean nothing to me.

[n4gzz]

took me 26 hrs on solid snake. I am playing on the boss mode and its freaking good (hard but good experience) where it pays for sneaking. No way, you can do run and gun on that mode. Without cutscene, it will take me about another 26 hrs for sure on the boss mode.

[Paperfone]

What's with all the xbots today!?!?! I guess the PS3 section has turned into the PS3 bashing section. I think they are all just mad that one of the greatest games ever cannot run on their crappy system.

[Mikey Mike]

I just find it ridiculous that people are claiming this to be the best game ever when all it really is, is a freaking long drawn out movie.

[millerlite]

I beat it last night. Normal Snake = 15 hours 30-odd minutes. I'd say that a good, maybe, 4 hours of that is cut scene time? Let's just round it off to 10 hours of gameplay. Now, I don't think that's total game play available to me, as I want to play through again. That's the sign of a good game, to me. I've played through Uncharted probably 8 times, that game kicks butt!! MGS4 seems to encourage and reward multiple plays through (this is my first MGS game).

The cut scenes really suck, for the most part. I hear people talk about how cool the romance scene is, but it's awful!! Who acts like that?? I liked the jokes, the action cut scenes, and that's about it. For me, the cost of entry was earned by the amazing game play. The boss fights, the motorcycle chase, etc.