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Phil Spencer: DirectX12 Not a "Massive Change" For Xbox One; Explains 1st Party Studios Expectations

Xbox Head Honcho Phil Spencer gave a realistic assessments of what you can expect from DirectX 12 on Xbox One, and about his expectations from first party studios as opposed to third parties.

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ErcsYou4025d ago

Phil just crushed somebody's dreams. Lol

xHeavYx4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

Pretty much what everyone else who's not an Xbox fan has been saying

truefan14025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

No that is false, Xb1 fans haven't really mentioned DX12 that much. You can search all my comments related to DX12, and you won't find one comment saying it will double XB1 performance. I did say it will be nice to have a 50% more efficient CPU, which is still unverified. And I got that information from the slides of that GDC conference earlier this year.

It's pretty funny this statement will mean more to ps4 fans than Xb1 fans. Don't believe look at the main ones commenting saying this will shut xbots up. lol Matter of fact there are only about 5 or 6 true XB1 fans on this site, so really where are all these xbots commenting talking about the cloud and dx12.

@LeBruset that was a poor attempt to call me out, keep searching. In you 2 quotes where do I mention how well DX12 will help. i just found it odd an opposing developer cared so much. As for your deal, we need to sweeten the pot a bit, if you can get a couple more of your ps4 buddies like Kingthrash, New Monday, Lukas, and Heavy to join in it's a DEAL. I'm Kind of a big deal on these gaming blogs, TRUEFAN is a worldwide name now, whether you like me or hate me.

@LeBruset it's starting to look sad that you are still trying. Keep on searching though, I'm sure I slipped up once. I basically control you, if I can get under your skin that much. It really shouldn't mean that much to you, video games are just toys.

@LeBruset stop proving my point, look at all the research you are doing. PS I never said you shouldn't have fun commenting on your hobby, which is what I do. You are clearly irritated. I get personal messages all the time, but I think it's funny people get so upset. Nothing said on this site could make me go out of my way to privately message someone lol. Not saying you have messaged me, but you keep researching trying to find some ammo. Let it go man.

hello124025d ago

Ready the actual tweet.

Person who asked. This might be random but will dx12 be a game changer for xbox one????? And how? why ?

Phil@ It will help developers on XBOX One. It's not going to be a massive change but will unlock more capability for devs

Phil confirms it is for x box something Sony fans deny on N4G all the time.

Hes wording massive. It still going to be good for xb1.

Directx12 unlock more capability for devs.

So the API is going to help out the xb1.

LackaJaKane4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

Yeah, and he just fulfilled everyone else who's not an xbox fan dream with that statement.

they're all probably high-fiving eachother.

Audiggity4025d ago

Or not... Good attempt at igniting yet another pointless console flame war.

Anyone who thought DX12 would bring massive, game changing enhancements to the X1 is just, not very intelligent. Hardware is hardware. There is no magic here.

Eonjay4025d ago

To be honest, Microsoft has been very honest from the beginning. You have to listen to what they say and block out others. One of the system architects at Microsoft explained it a long time ago and people wouldn't listen. DX12 brings some of the advantages from consoles to PC. It also has an advantage of making cross platform development ubiquitous across Xbox One and PC. The major benefit is its ability to get better results from modern multicore CPUs much in a way that the Xbox is doing now.

People were claiming miracles would occur but that is not what they said. They even gave a demo showing how DX12 was more efficient than DX11 with CPU time.

I seriously fail to see how Microsoft misled anyone.

MEGANE4025d ago

@truefan. Do u really think some one here is gonna waste time looking at u comment history!(BTW is must be very short with one lonely bubble).
I am actually surprise I took the time to replay to ur comment.

Pogmathoin4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

'Pretty much what everyone else who's not an Xbox fan has been saying.'

Pretty much they are the only ones that ever commented on it.... Half the time the 'non' xbox fans would even post the story and then comment first, too excited like a fat kid who found a smartie.

@ megane, well, its better than those with 10 bubbles, with 10 times the trolling BS.

Eonjay4025d ago

The only person who got crushed was MisterX.
For the second time by Phil himself.
I think people like that make Phil's job more difficult but promising things that are irrational and unrealistic.

tuglu_pati4025d ago

Its great that Phil is upfront with this. I like the fact that he's been honest.

GarrusVakarian4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

Woah! Am i suddenly in a different universe? I can't believe what im reading here from some people....

You guys were saying for months how much of a game changer DX12 was for the X1, how you can have the audacity to sit there and act all humble and move the goalposts in an attempt to redirect any shame from themselves is pitiful. You guys acted like DX12 was the absolutely saving grace for the X1, and that the power increase would be HUGE.

I hate to say i told you so, but i did tell you so. I said again and again that DX12 wouldn't have as much impact as people were hoping for, that it was mainly for the benefit of PC's, and that pinning all your hopes onto it was just setting up yourselves for disappointment. And any time someone chose to doubt DX12, or question it in *any* way, like i did, we got labelled as trolls and downplayers.

@KNWS

"Phil confirms it is for x box something Sony fans deny on N4G all the time. "

Hahaha....what? Stop moving the goalposts, no one said that. I heard many people say that it would benefit PC much more than the X1, never did i see someone say DX12 wasn't for Xbox, everyone and their dog knows that the 'X' in 'Xbox' is because of Direct X. Stop making things up, because you are one of the guys who thought DX12 would be a game changer, don't make me show people the PM's i have from you about DX12.

"It's not going to be a massive change"

That part of the quote goes directly against what ive been hearing from Xbox fanboys for the past few months. Maybe this will be a lesson learned about counting your chickens (and bragging about them) before they have hatched? Probably not.....

AngelicIceDiamond4025d ago

So it won't help the X1 in a massive way. But it will benefit the X1 regardless.

That's good to know.

What's also good to know is that this DX12 argument should be put to rest finally.

4Sh0w4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

No, check my posts, like most X1 fans I've always said DX12 is just another tool/asset, plus many more to come that will improve X1 over the years which is typical of how ALL consoles/software works, all the secret sauce talk is from that mister guy and ps fanboys who hope X1 doesnt constantly improve. lol, which is so silly, I mean micro is a software giant so you would expect them to QUICKLY build better tools, SDK'S to improve their platform.

-Tell 'em Phil:

"It will help developers on Xbox One. It's NOT going to be a massive change BUT will unlock more capability for devs."

"I don't think it's about a specific genre, more about creating exclusive franchises, taking some risks 3rd parties might not take." -Phil Spencer

Phil is doing a great job, it's ambitious but realistic talk like this that I enjoy.

Kingthrash3604025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

Check my previous comments....I've been saying that since February.
Hardware is hardware. Software helps but its not gunna "even" things out.
Truefan ..lol. OK whatever man.

Saigon4025d ago

@Eonjay

You are right they did not, but every developer and wanna-be-developer said other wise. +b. That is the reason why the DX12 message is scrambled. Its good that MS has said something confirming what some of us already knew but it still does not change the fact that some still think there is some secret sauce. So I guess the next thing we will here for a while until confirmation is that the cloud will make a difference once Crackdown 3 is shown using the tech.

LeCreuset4025d ago

@truefan1

"Matter of fact there are only about 5 or 6 true XB1 fans on this site, so really where are all these xbots commenting talking about the cloud and dx12."

And just what is your extreme standard for judging someone a true XB1 fan? Is it making extreme and hyperbolic statements like you engage in?

You engage in illogical hyperbole routinely and refuse to be accountable for it. That's pretty disingenuous to challenge people to find in your comment history where you said that DX12 will double XB1 performance. xHeavYx didn't imply, directly or indirectly, that anyone did. What was being called out was the illogical hyping of DX12, and hyping is something you and others are quite guilty of. Kind of like when you said XB1 won't lose to PS4 more than 2/7 months from June on. So speaking of challenges and being accountable for outlandish statements, I'm still awaiting your response.

http://n4g.com/user/useract...

IVanSpinal4025d ago

Maybe Xbox Fanboys, but fans?
Stupid fanboys war

ziggurcat4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

@truefan1:

"No that is false, Xb1 fans haven't really mentioned DX12 that much."

*cough*BS*cough* you, out of everyone here, have consistently yammered on about DX12 ever since they announced it...

This just confirms what everyone who isn't deluded have been saying for months now - that it won't benefit xbone as much as PC. And it comes from your saviour, too.

Despite being proven wrong (again), you continue to move those goalposts, and try to pin the blame for the false hope of DX12's impact on playstation fans? Wow...

I'm looking forward to whoever it is to post every single comment you've made talking about an exponential increase in performance because of DX12.

Kayant4025d ago

@Eonjay

"I seriously fail to see how Microsoft misled anyone." - Yep it was the fact someone people were going with this misleading article http://n4g.com/news/1487034...
and the PC benchmark here comparing PC DX11 to PC DX12 "Tested on GIGABYTE BRIX Pro (Intel Core i7-4770R + Iris Pro Graphics 5200)" that people got the up to 50% improvement when MS has never hinted at that metric for XB1 none does it make that much sense looking the the low-end multi-core processors in both consoles.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dir...

alexkoepp4025d ago

Xbox has been steadily closing the gap between the systems when you look at current multiplatforms compared to launch ones. Even just a little performance boost from DX12 is going to close that gap completely or put X1 ahead.

xHeavYx4025d ago

@Alex
Wishful thinking much?

spacecat50504025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

It truly was the sony fanboys making it a bigger deal than it was. No one said DX12 would make the x1 more powerful. Xbox fans and fanboys said it would make development easier and improve design.

Sony fanboys kept going on and on about how dx12 wouldnt do anything while misquoting fans about how dx12 was a saving grace. There is no doubt Xbox One was built with DX12 in mind and I am positive developers will be happy once they get their hands on it for making xbox games.

Edit:
I love how the sony fanboys are having a party in this artcile. Stay classy guys.

LeCreuset4025d ago

@alex

I would pretend to be amazed at your comment, but I talked to a couple of XB1 owners over the weekend that actually believed the XB1 is already ahead of the PS4, even in sales.

@Truefan

Remember when Naughty Dog tried to warn about hyping DX12 for XB1 to unrealistic levels and you responded with:

"ND must be threatened to issue this statement, especially saying pure marketing hyperbole. He sounds like all of you, this must be pre June 2nd damage control. Also sony execs sure worry alot about what MSFT is doing, saying DX12 will do nothing and planning a reactionary E3.

"This guy must be privileged to get access to DX12 this early lol. This damage control excites me, because if it was nothing the ICE TEAM wouldn't care. #1.1.4"

http://n4g.com/comments/red...

MysticStrummer4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

@truefan - "Xb1 fans haven't really mentioned DX12 that much"

Holy **** did I just read that???????????????????

Edit - Nice job johndoe. I wasn't going to bother, but that's a good representative sample. People who disagreed with statements like those were labeled trolls and haters. "Fear" was another word being thrown around if someone was sensible enough to argue with that crap.

LeCreuset4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

@truefan1

The call out demonstrated exactly what it was meant to: that you are immune to reason and prone to illogical statements. Not only could you not accept what Naughty Dog was saying about DX12, but you went so far as to insist that they were afraid. Yet, do you take any accountability for being proven wrong, again? Nope.

As for that deal, let's inject some reality. You have one, well deserved, bubble. I have five. Going by that, I already have more to lose than you. Now you want to involve others as well,including Lukas with his 10 bubbles? That's up to them whether they want to get in on that action, if they want to demand some of your ilk get in on it too, or whatever. The only thing in our control is you and I accepting the deal. So man up and stop trying to hide behind ridiculous conditions that are beyond my lone ability to consent to. Have some accountability for what you said, since you were so sure of it.

Btw, I hope Phil has now made clear to you the "true power of DX12."

"I hope June 2nd they reveal the true power of DX12 and show what the XB1 can do. I just refuse to believe MSFT spent all that money on a customized GRU for nothing."

http://n4g.com/comments/red...

"Say what you want, but the ps4 is already getting maxed out. It has essentially peaked and if you noticed their first party games are running 30fps, infamous, drive club, and the order. XB1 had been more frame rate focused and is expected to get better with DX12. XB1 already has a faster CPU, and a 50% utilization reduction could be huge. For all that 50% more powerful ultra computer, not one game has even looked 5% better.

"For XB1 There Is just so much potential with titled resources using the esRAM and cloud computing. I'll take the jokes in the now, but by time Halo comes out you will see the complete package and see which was built for the future. Maybe even Remedy will be the first compete package by year end.

"PS boyd said near future, E3 perhaps, I have a feeling some "cloud" "DX12" presentations are in order for the biggest gaming stage. MSFT leadership knows what's at stake, they know the skepticism, they are just putting it on people's radar."

http://n4g.com/comments/red...

"Don't be mad at him, he is just mad the ps4 has already peaked, what you see is what you get. What has been said about DX12 scares him."

" http://n4g.com/comments/red...

johndoe112114025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

@truefan1

Alexxkoepp – “DX12 is going to be a game changer.” http://n4g.com/news/1512546...

Georgenoob - “you just can't deny the huge leap in performance it will bring.” http://n4g.com/news/1512546...

Morepowerofgreen – “DX12 could allow XB1 to do things no other console can hope to achieve” http://n4g.com/news/1512546...

KNWS - directx12 full features will be coming to xb1 http://n4g.com/news/1532306...

Lifeisgamesok - Directx 12 and by what Nvidia, Intel, and AMD are saying will be one of the biggest tech advances in some time http://n4g.com/news/1495045...

A lot more i can post but I'm too damn lazy to do all that writing.

Wh15ky4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

How on earth does truefan get a "well said" for that drivel. Who should be banned for the amount of flaming lies he just spewed

xHeavYx4025d ago

@Wh15ky
What I'm going to say are not facts, just assumptions, but if there was a mod who liked Xbox more than PS, and if that mod were to rate a comment by, let's just say, Truefan, it would automatically show as "Well Said"

Wh15ky4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

Thanks heavy, I always wondered about that as there are quite often some very dubious "well said" and "intelligent" comments. Does he not get another bubble now though?

MightyNoX4025d ago

@Heavy: I've suspected this for a while, thanks for giving this theory some credence (the 'well said' theory, I mean)

@John Doe: Excellent research, my good man.

LeCreuset4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

@truefan1

"it's starting to look sad that you are still trying. Keep on searching though, I'm sure I slipped up once. I basically control you, if I can get under your skin that much. It really shouldn't mean that much to you, video games are just toys."

I don't need to keep trying. Herb Dean has already jumped in to stop the fight. It really wasn't difficult. You provide a lot of material, which I just copied and pasted in the rest period between bench press sets. I guess my holding you accountable is getting to you, as you've gone from trying to pretend my comments don't exist to laughably trying to dodge that challenge by trying to involve people that had nothing to do with the claims you made directly to me, while delusionally referring to yourself as a world brand. And you're obviously keeping that one post of yours alive to be edited so you can respond, so that's a fail for your attempt at reverse psychology to get me to back off of criticizing your hyperbole. Oh, and thanks for the ammo:

"I basically control you, if I can get under your skin that much. It really shouldn't mean that much to you, video games are just toys."

My account — The only one I have ever had. Can you say the same? — with 5 bubbles, has 831 comments, including this one. You, with one bubble, have 710 comments, which doesn't take into account the edits you use to get the most out of that bubble. I've gone months without commenting, outside of the giveaways where I simply typed an ellipses to be eligible. How about you? Can you even say you've gone a week? A day (Bans don't count.)? Here's another stat for you: My join date is 21 May 2013. Yours is 06 Jan 2014. Your account is 7 months and some change newer than mine, mine has 5 bubbles vs your 1, yet you are already at 710 comments — NOT COUNTING YOUR EDITS! — versus my 831. Goodnes, Truefan1. It really shouldn't mean that much to you. Video games are just toys.

Volkama4025d ago

One of those articles that makes you wish N4G had a better searching tool, so you could pull up certain users' comments that mention Dx12.

Or maybe that would just cause things to get out of hand. Not many people like to be shamed :)

Wh15ky4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

@truefan1

Wow! Comment 3hrs ago, last edited 12mins ago.

Still keeping this comment alive after 3 hrs!

You may as well be PMing him, he's obviously managed to get "under your skin that much", why else would you keep your comment editable?

Eonjay4025d ago

@truefan1

How embarrassing. Have some dignity.

choujij4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

I think I'm starting to like Phil. He just made a ton of Xbox fanboys eat crow.

pyramidshead4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

you know full well that this article has crushed lots of xbox fanboys dreams when truefan1 is the 3rd comment down and it's almost the size of an essay excusing everything away. Fantastic! :P

MRMagoo1234025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

Everyone but hardcore misterxmedia fans and the delusional xbone fans on here knew this, the whole point in dx12 is to make pc gaming as efficient as console gaming, who ever thought it would do much for console is just stupid.

@LeCreuset and johndoe11211

LMFAO you guys ate the troll alive.

GiggMan4025d ago

Oh my god this this whole reply thread is hilarious!

dantesparda4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

You MS fanboys are right, Phil is an alright guy. He just squashed the delusions/beliefs of all you MS fanboys. We've been telling you this all along.
And I love how Truefan thinks he's a big name, but doesn't realize that people know him for being a big joke.

SilentNegotiator4025d ago

Quick, my X-brethren! Help me move these goal posts before it's too late!!

"Graphics don't matter!"
"The Kinect changes and cloud will be enough to bridge the gap!"

Whew! That was close!

imt5584024d ago (Edited 4024d ago )

Lol MisterXmedia! Just lol!

http://i.imgur.com/vECyKnZ....

@LeCreuset & johndoe

Well, well done. I just wrote similar shit in post bellow and get lots of disagree votes.

UltraNova4024d ago

@truefan

You really have to learn when to back off, especially when your are full of shit.

We all read the comments about the second coming aka direct x 12 and the cloud both of which turned out to be 'of some help' and dedicated servers respectively.

Trying to downplay your blind reaction/support on both those xbox1 'upgrades' (both officially debunked) is embarrassing to you and all Xbox supporters out there.

Just be quite for a change.

fr0sty4024d ago

lol, truefanboy got owned.. repeatedly. I almost feel bad for them... but I don't.

XBOTTOX4024d ago

Not really, he didn't even mention anything in regards to power or performance. He said it wouldn't be a big change, and im sure he was referencing the API for developers.

But ofcourse this is n4g and this thread is already nearly 200 posts deep. Let the fanboys revel in their victory lol

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Abriael4025d ago

He's being honest and realistic, which is what some people tend not to be. Gotta love that.

Remember the dude (which is actually a developer) that said it's gonna double the power of the GPU?

Ausbo4025d ago

I dont think that developer had access to it yet. He spoke too soon.

Abriael4025d ago

@ausbo: The funny thing is that he seems to be developing a demo for it.

Eonjay4025d ago

Well, their word should have been taken for a grain of salt. Officially, Microsoft never made those exaggerated claims. But by the same token, we have to trust Phil when he says that the Kinect reserve will boost performance, which also seems realistic on a per title basis.

sinspirit4025d ago

I've been saying the same thing for weeks. Consoles already have that "to the metal" aspect that DX12 is trying to bring to PC.

So glad someone finally cleared it up. Nothing like having a good chuckle at all the people that argued self imagined misconceptions about how this was going to work and then being shot down by their own favored company.

I just hope they take advantage of DX12 and start porting some games over to PC, even if it's a year after the console release. My most anticipated game is a new Fable, but not the Fable Legends spin-off, I want a story-oriented one like before and I want it to really have passion put into it.

Volkama4025d ago

The whole "makes xbox 50% more powerful!" claim stemmed from a ****ty gamingbolt article that stuck some slides from a presentation together without the correct context. It was never actually what Microsoft said.

Aussiebeachbabe4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

Abriael we know dx12 is not going to double the performance but I can guarantee that it will increase the performance by at least 15-20%. So it is great news anyway.

MRMagoo1234025d ago

@aussibadger

If you really think its gonna be anywhere near a 15% increase you need to see a DR, the xbone will at most get a 5% increase, its an update that basically just does what the xbone already does, nothing new, all it does is help pcs be as efficient as consoles when programming software for it.

Bigpappy4025d ago

Taking risk can usually includes financial risk. Most indies can not afford to showcase the full ambition of their intended design.

What Phil has done hear is quail the expectations of some fans who may have expected DX12 to blow PS4 away performance wise. But he still leaves open that fact that improvements are to be expected.

@Eonjay: good sensible commenting. So many people here go out of their way to tray an insult or degrade other because of their choice of a GAMING console. So what if a few X1 fans had high hopes for DX12. They are not the developer and are getting info enforces those excitements.

Boy will be boys though and of course this is going to be used by many to say X1 is trash and will remain trash. But it is not trash and is already performing even better in upcoming games.

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Am-No-Hero4025d ago

I've told some fanboys that but they did not listen to me lol

Good job Phil you just Smashed hopes lol

BallsEye4025d ago

Big changes are not massive changes. They've already demoed big changes that dx12 brings . Massive would be achieving graphic level of Blizzard's CGIs which is ridiculous to even think of. 30% boost? Sure. They've already showed 50% boost in cpu load on PC thanks to dx12 and that's what we should expect. That's still pretty big, especially for a console like XBOX ONE where you can snap browser/videos/skype calls and whatever else in the bg. That's CPU heavy.

Nekroo914025d ago

do you even understand how Dx 12 works for pc?! Phil Spencer "console like API" its going to reduce the latency from cpu to gpu. its going to be huge for pc but almost nothing for console because they are built with that in mind

XiSasukeUchiha4025d ago

Phil basically prove to everybody that DX12 won't magically powerup but just give it a boost.

tgunzz4025d ago

Phil Spencer is a pretty smart fella indeed.... DX12 impact on xb1 is going to interesting.

AngelicIceDiamond4025d ago

So it will be a standard boost for X1. Meaning X1 will still benefit from it in some way.

I'm glad Phil's honest and isn't giving us a PR circle now we can move along.

choujij4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

"So it will be a standard boost for X1."

What exactly is a standard boost?

"Meaning X1 will still benefit from it in some way."

Yeah, the main benefit for Xbone, is that it will help Xbone developers port games from PC (and vice versa).

rainslacker4025d ago

The boost comes from better allocation of the memory bus/controller and better overall use of processing threads within the APU itself. DX12 gives developers API's to do such abilities as routine things, instead of having to make up workarounds to get it to work.

I explained it in detail once a while back(can't find the comment now) and got a lot of disagrees, even though I was saying it would improve things some. Probably because I said there's no way those things would add up to doubling X1's processing power...which was the current assumption at the time.

Otherwise, this was good of Phil to clear the air about. Seen way too many assumptions on this subject, and way too much hyperbole while I was at it. It's never a good thing to set the customers expectations to an unachievable level, which was done more by a few very passionate Xbox fans.

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corvusmd4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

Not really...EVERYONE has been saying this same thing. The only people saying otherwise is really just PS fanboys trying to build a strawman argument...and a few Xbox Fanboys...other than that everyone else was being much more realistic. Please stop making up arguments to try and make others look stupid for things they haven't said.

Everytime DX12 comes up we are reminded that X1 already has a low level API...we all know this, and the advantage will be more about tools that it can give devs...everyone with half a brain has been saying this as soon as it was revealed.

Every little bit helps, I just hope that is makes using the ESRAM much easier for Devs to take advantage of, that's what I've more so been concerned with the whole time. Either way, it's already looking like with the June SDK, there is less need for a "massive" boost in performance.

@skydragoon To be fair..the "delusional arguments" have always been from the PS4 side of the camp on this issue. I keep hearing Sony fans say that Xbots are saying this will change the world, but I typically only see Xbox Fans saying that it will help, but it's more about giving tools.

johndoe112114025d ago

Alexxkoepp – “DX12 is going to be a game changer.” http://n4g.com/news/1512546...

Georgenoob - “you just can't deny the huge leap in performance it will bring.” http://n4g.com/news/1512546...

Morepowerofgreen – “DX12 could allow XB1 to do things no other console can hope to achieve” http://n4g.com/news/1512546...

KNWS - directx12 full features will be coming to xb1 http://n4g.com/news/1532306...

Lifeisgamesok - Directx 12 and by what Nvidia, Intel, and AMD are saying will be one of the biggest tech advances in some time http://n4g.com/news/1495045...

MysticStrummer4025d ago

"EVERYONE has been saying this same thing"

Come on man…

You're on N4G enough to know that isn't true.

MasterCornholio4025d ago

@John

Holy crap. You just owned the biggest Xbox Fans on N4G plus you made them look like a bunch of fools in the process by using their Idol against them.

The Xbox fans that I respect should do something about them because they are only ruining the image of Xbox One owners.

MightyNoX4025d ago

@Johndoe: Giving you another bubble, just because~

pyramidshead4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

I implore anyone who is anyone to screen cap @johndoe11211 for future ownage of said users that are mentioned in his comment.

Truly a sight to see and now we have all resident xbox fanboys now denying that they were even banking on DX12 being a massive game changer.

Holy lord this is a fun day on N4g. The hypocrisy is flowing green today!

edit: Corvusmd you just got served sir.

Volkama4024d ago

@MasterCornholio "The Xbox fans that I respect should do something about them because they are only ruining the image of Xbox One owners."

Do something like what? I have yet to find an exorcist that is up to the task.

Volkama4024d ago

Oh and for what it's worth, Corvus didn't "get served" there. Right at the start of the comment he acknowledges some XBox fanboys have been saying it:

"The only people saying otherwise is really just PS fanboys trying to build a strawman argument...and a few Xbox Fanboys..."

Why did N4G get rid of the old "open zone" anyway?

kenshiro1004024d ago

You keep digging that hole there.

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Magicite4025d ago

truefan1 is always there behind the corner ready to defend exbucks

rainslacker4025d ago

Revisionist history usually goes to the victor.

I'll give him props for trying though.

Guwapo774025d ago

We've been saying this since it was announced. You've won brownie points with me bud and earned my respect for your integrity. Thank you Phil!

assdan4025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

Well, it's nice to finally see confirmation that everyone who wasn't an xbox was right. But I'm sure that xbots will say he's wrong. Maybe they'll try to say he isn't a programmer or something funny like that.
And I almost forgot to say this! Phil spencer further proves why he's the only one I like at xbox.

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showtimefolks4025d ago

we all knew this but some xbox fansboys were in full denial mode just like they are about cloud stuff

these consoles are what they are and ps4 is a bit stronger than xbox one, nothing will change that. But that doesn't mean games on xbox one will be bad by any means. It will just take few years for developers to get use to both ps4 and xbox one, and also to know how to utilize the ps4 and xbox one to their strengths

I am liking phil spencer, no mixed messages anymore. Just a straight shooter. Also he took a picture with Uncle Jack Tretton so i kind of like him lol

slivery4024d ago (Edited 4024d ago )

Not like everyone with common sense didn't see this coming miles away. Just like every other delusional dream that has been put to rest about the Xbox One.

I have said this for ages, I won't act like Microsoft hasn't mislead people in the past but a huge majority of this misinformation is completely due to most their delusional fanbase who can't accept for the life of them what their console actually is.

Now I can add yet another dream to my list of those crushed. /s

Really not that rewarding though in all honesty, most the time I seriously feel bad for how deluded some of these people here on N4G are. I won't specifically single out Xbox fans only because it happens from ever side of the fence.

I just honestly question how some of these people even make it through life, I guess it's too easy these days to stay alive. No more natural selection to weed out the morons.

Had to edit this and add what I think is a important ending note. Although I have had my trouble with Phil in the past, I gained a huge amount of respect for him right now, just for being completely honest about this.

If this continues, who knows just maybe I might actually be a bit more trusting of the Xbox brand. My lack of trust in Microsoft in general has always been the problem, I don't dislike their games, I never disliked their consoles either, I was heavy into the 360 but that is when they lost every bit of trust I had in them.

So this type of honesty is very refreshing.

r1sh124024d ago

LOL>..
people really need to have more perspective, Yes DX12 will improve X1 - by how much?
10-15%?

So if we take the 10% unlocked from the removal of kinect, and add the 10-15% of the DX12 update it should hopefully get it closer to the PS4...
How much closer to the PS4?
Only real results will tell, from all my technical reading it will significantly close the gap, but I reckon the PS4 will still have a slight performance edge.

Any progress with either console is good progress, I understand many people will want to defend their console and really shovel it to X1 adopters, but both consoles have very similar parts and different architectures.

jessupj4024d ago (Edited 4024d ago )

I've always had a wait and see approach for directx12, but I have suspected that it wouldn't make a huge difference to the xbone.

I really have to admire Phil's honesty. It's just so refreshing to see. Instead of beating round the bush and dodging the question, he came right out and told the truth.

4 months ago I would have fell on the floor laughing if someone told me a MS executive was capable of such honesty and integrity.

ChickeyCantor4024d ago

DX12 was mostly meant to provide low level access on pc's. Developers on consoles already have that low level api.

He isn't being "honest" in that regard. He is just saying what was rather obvious.

ChickeyCantor4024d ago

DX12/Mantle were mostly targetted for PC. Whoever hyped it for the xbox is an idiot.

otherZinc4024d ago (Edited 4024d ago )

@Lukas_Japonicus,

It's still going to make a difference. Not "a massive difference".

M$ doesn't need much, as they have "The Only 1080p 60fps" "Next Gen Console Game On The Market" in Forza Motorsport 5, Period!

Forza Motorsport 5 is "ONLY" on a next generation console. You can't find Forza Motorsport 5 on the PS3, 360, or Wii.

Maybe SONY should get something like "Direct P4-13" to give the PS4 a small boost in performance of about 5-15% (not a "massive boost") to help Drive Club reach 1080p 60fps like Forza Motorsport 5.
OR
Help Drive Club (exclusive for PS4) add weather effects at launch instead of a post launch patch...especially after a year delay! You know, like Forza Horizon 2 has right now, delivering an open world with weather at launch.

Also, "Direct P4-13" may help Drive Club get rid of those invisible walls we had with the Atari 2600. Forza Horizon 2 doesn't have invisible walls & that's without Direct X 12.

kenshiro1004024d ago

Gee Phil, what a way to crush a typical XBox fanboy's wet dream of Direct X12...

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mrpsychoticstalker4025d ago

PHIL for president, the future of Xbox is in great hands!

DoubleM704025d ago

Yup! Keep telling the truth. It's Marathon not a sprint. I been enjoying my Xbox tremendously thanks Phil.

madjedi4024d ago

Funny that has been sony's stance since the ps3 launched.

JCOLE131954025d ago (Edited 4025d ago )

Glad he's being honest and realistic about it. I wasn't expecting massive gains from it either, but it's good that he still says it'll help devs by giving them more capabilities. We'll just have to wait and see. Good news nonetheless.

christocolus4025d ago

You are right, Phil is a great guy, the gains might not be massive but he says it will unlock more capabilities, can't wait to see what the talented devs do with it. I also love what he had to say about first and third games&the fact he is taking risks with new ips is great. I always send him pms and tweets and the guy actually replies. He also played forza 5 online with a friend of mine some weeks ago.he is a very nice person and the right guy to be heading the division.

MasterCornholio4025d ago

I agree with you. Out of all the people from Microsoft's Xbox division Phill seems to be the most honest one litnof all of them. Panello needs to go though after the crap he tried to pull on Neogaf.

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Phil Spencer Teases 2026 As A "Really Special Year" For Xbox

2026 will mark the 25th anniversary of Xbox, and Phil Spencer has teased it as a "really special year" for the games division.

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TheEroica12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You got downvotes by pathetic gamers for feeling hopeful about good games coming out next year. Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy? It is pretty neat to see people's world view blow up in front of them as they realize Microsoft has put themselves in a driver's seat that Sony hasn't been able to touch all generation.... What's even more pathetic is the same people downvoting you are the same people wishlisting Microsoft games on their ps5s 😂

P_Bomb12d ago

“Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy?”

My dude your post history shits on EVERYTHING. You never have a good thing to say about anything lol! 🤣

PanicMechanic11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

“Getting ready for those GaaS reveals! Sony is a shadow of themselves this gen.”

You literally said this a couple of days ago. Start applying the clown make up, you hypocritical jester

derek12d ago

Yep we'll see, they have alot releasing next year.

RaidenBlack11d ago

NGL, next year might be one of the best years in gaming ... starting off with RE9 and GTA VI ...
and then all the good games that's been cooking
Pragmata, Sands of Time, Saros, Gears E-Day, 007 First Light, Blood of Dawnwalker,
Mortal Shell II, Onimusha, Marvel1943: Rise of Hydra
current-gen only Infinity Ward's CoD, Duskbloods
+ My guess: Wolverine, Exodus, Mudang, Crimson Desert, Clockwork etc ...
~ seems like it might get too stacked

1Victor11d ago

@rokos:”Hopefully “
I downvoted you not for been hopeful but because I have seen the same “NEXT YEAR WILL BE SPECIAL “ comment for the last 10+ and hasn’t seen anything special from Microsoft.
I hope next year will be the one that everyone been waiting for since the last 3 years of the Xbox 360, it have to be after over $80 billions spent on acquisitions.

Lightning7711d ago

So the new excuse is they don't count because it's from the ABK now huh. I guess all those 3rd party games count even less because they don't own them. According to your always crappy logic.

InUrFoxHole11d ago

Lol. You haven't seen anything special? Do you even game?

OtterX12d ago

Always with the "next year..."! 😂

neutralgamer199212d ago

I don't know they have delivered this year and even last year. And they have a lot more content in the pipeline right now than anyone else. We can't just keep hating on MS

Indiana Jones
South of midnight
Avowed
Flight simulator
Hell Blade 2
Minecraft update
Gears of war reloaded
Indian Jones:expansion
Gears E day
Clockwork revolution
Fable
Doom the dark ages
The outer worlds 2
Grounded 2
Call of duty

OtterX12d ago

How many of those titles were just buyouts of companies that were going about making their games anyways? *Throws cash - "Oh look what we made!"

dveio12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

This list, that's been posted again, and again, and again in every single topic like this, contains almost nothing, literally almost nothing from Microsoft's own creational thoughtprocess.

It's a bunch of former 3rd party IPs.

Now even slowly returning to Playstation in some cases like Indiana, Hellblade, probably Starfield soon too, after they were made exclusively to Xbox on purpose.

Due to Microsoft's lack for own IP material except Halo & Forza. Which, the lack of, was the sole reason for all of it to happen in the first place anyway. Please don't pretend it wasn't.

And just look at all the games that come from Obsidian alone.

You really think Obsidian wasn't already working on Avowed and South of Midnight even without Microsoft buying Zenimax?

Microsoft delivered nothing but cheques.

OtterX12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@dveio THIS. Lol, this dude thinks Call of Duty wouldn't exist without Microsoft! smh 😂

neutralgamer199212d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Common narrative I see often — that Microsoft shouldn’t get credit for the games its studios release because they “just bought them.” But this viewpoint ignores key context and sets a double standard that other platform holders aren’t held to

No one is saying these games wouldn't exist at all without Microsoft. But let’s not pretend that having a trillion-dollar company backing a studio doesn’t make a massive difference. Obsidian never had AAA funding before the Xbox acquisition. Pillars of Eternity was crowdfunded, and their resources were always stretched thin. Now they’re working on Avowed, with proper support behind it.

Ninja Theory’s Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice was made by around 20 people, using borrowed equipment and doing mocap in a boardroom. It was a passion project held together by tape and willpower. Today, Hellblade II exists because they were given resources, time, and freedom — something many developers don’t get unless they’re owned by a company that believes in their vision.

ZeniMax (Bethesda’s parent company) was in real financial trouble before the Microsoft acquisition. Reports and insider accounts have pointed out how much they needed a cash infusion. And while some people want to write off Xbox’s ownership of Bethesda titles, they forget the alternative could have meant layoffs or even closures.

The same goes for Activision Blizzard. Would you really prefer the company to stay under Bobby Kotick, after all the documented workplace misconduct and toxic leadership issues? Say what you want about Microsoft, but their acquisition brought accountability and change to a company that desperately needed it.

At the same time, Xbox gets hated on for doing what every major company does. Sony bought Housemarque, Bluepoint, Insomniac — but no one says Spider-Man 2 “doesn’t count” because of that. Why does Xbox get treated differently for acquiring struggling or undervalued developers and giving them a chance to thrive?

And the idea that Xbox locks games away is outdated. They're pushing cross-platform releases, cloud gaming, Game Pass, and backward compatibility more than any other platform holder. They're not forcing all studios into live service. If anything, their upcoming lineup is less GAAS-heavy and more focused on narrative and creativity — Avowed, South of Midnight, Clockwork Revolution, Fable, Perfect Dark, Towerborne, and others show real variety.

Whether people like it or not, Xbox is now the biggest publisher in the industry and owns the most gaming IPs. But what matters more is how they treat their studios. Most of these teams were previously stuck making AA games with limited scope — now they’re getting the tools and support to aim higher.

So when people say “Microsoft didn’t make those games,” they’re missing the point. It’s not about who started the studio — it’s about who enabled them to do their best work. You don’t have to love Xbox to admit they’ve helped a lot of developers and are taking a player-first approach.

Instead of writing off everything they do, maybe try recognizing the good they’re doing for both devs and gamers. At the end of the day, we should want more studios to succeed — no matter who owns them

BeHunted12d ago

I'm surprised Clockwork Revolution (BioShock meets Dishonored) isn't getting more media attention. The game looks interesting and reminds me of the old RPG games.

anast12d ago

The only good game on that list is Flight sim. The rest are either average or will be average. It's not a good look for MS.

TheEroica12d ago

My god.... Look how many comments are upset about microsoft's successes... 😂 This may be my new favorite thread. Not one gamer saying thanks for all the goodness coming their way, just bitter anger and downvoting the very games they themselves will purchase throughout 2026.... Sony really worked you guys over this generation.... Condolences.

DivineHand12512d ago

@neutralgamer1992 You said what needed to be said.

I have heard for years from older gamers that fanboys are the biggest issue with any fanbase. They will defend or gloss over negative news as long as the correct logo is on the box and they bash the competing platform no matter how much good they are trying to bring.

Right now their advocacy for PlayStation is elevating that platform so high that Sony no longer believes they need to do anything to satisfy their loyal fanbase like they did in the PS4 days.

I just hope most of them will eventually start advocating for themselves and encourage others to do the same. No one should blindly support one platform because these companies do not care about anything other than profit.

neutralgamer199212d ago

Hunted

And first proper game done by the studio with proper AAA budget and saying it will be released when ready

Anast

I believe we went through this before that you are objectively wrong. Meta critic, user reviews, game sales. In Playstation top 10 best selling games were 5 from Microsoft studios

Otter

No this dude is saying so many other studios wouldn't be thriving without MS money and people would be getting abused physically and mentally with Bobby kotick and his side kicks

Also maybe look up how the original founder of Bethesda and zenimax was kicked out of his own company by his best friend lawyer. So that was always a shady place and had been struggling financially before MS paid a premium of almost 7 billion

Eroica

I use to be a die hard Playstation fan and now I only have a Pc. I see how these fans are so toxic. They just can't handle any positive news regarding Xbox. When the best selling games on playstation are Xbox titles. Look at Forza horizon being best seller and that's years old game by MS. I guess ms don't deserve credit for that success too since they are the only company in gaming making acquisitions

Forget the fact Sony paid 3.6 billion for bungie and MS 6.9 for zenimax. Which investment has turned out better

Destiny and marathon with a lot of controversy

While zenimax output is nothing short of amazing compared to what bungie has released

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Yeah it's tricky. "Xbox" has morphed to mean different things to different people.
Console, now Windows, GamePass, and the cross platform games. There's a mix of attitudes towards all those things individually, and maybe an overarching attitude towards MS. But can't argue that the game companies MS recently bought continue to flourish, and GamePass PC has been a great value over the last year.

InUrFoxHole11d ago

@OtterX
You're the dude mad at your exes new guy. She's with someone else... get over it.

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Lightning7712d ago (Edited 12d ago )

They've had good output so far. So waiting for those games shouldn't be a problem.

Who cares if they're buy outs of companies or whatever excuse you want to make. They're games that are being distributed to other console. Play the games and enjoy it instead of fanboying or complaining.

ocelot0712d ago

They going to be a he best and biggest publisher on Xbox, Playstation and PC next year. They not really said anything about Switch 2 though spite claiming to be big supporters.

quenomamen12d ago

If you call making one last Xbox before going full Sega, as Great. Then yea.

TheEroica12d ago

Doesn't feel like you're paying attention to what's happening.

RhinoGamer8812d ago

It will be, his net work will hit 50 million and he plans to buy a new mansion in Cape Cod. Thanks everyone! #failup

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Phil Spencer 'Very Excited' About Xbox Handheld Plans For 2025

With ASUS seemingly teasing an Xbox handheld last week, there's been a lot of talk about the device in the days ever since, and Xbox boss Phil Spencer has also teased something to do with handhelds happening in 2025

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neutralgamer199278d ago

I really hope this isn't a windows based device even though coming from MS that's highly unlikely. SteamDeck is much much easier to use and offers a much better user experience than any other handheld device because it's all based on steam app. The Xbox handheld should be based on that because a Windows device with a 7-8 inch screen makes it's difficult to navigate

darthv7278d ago

Coming from Asus... its going to be an Xbox branded ROG Ally.

neutralgamer199278d ago

That's fine but hopefully it will be a Xbox app based instead of windows

VenomUK77d ago (Edited 77d ago )

When the casual market learn that there’s going to be an Xbox branded Asus handheld they will cancel their Nintendo Switch 2 preorders and get the Asus. No it won’t have exclusive games like Super Mario or Zelda or Metroid or Pilot Wings or Mario Kart or Animal Crossing or Donkey Kong or Pokémon or Super Smash Bros - but who cares as it will have access to the entire library of the Steam Store running on Windows. It will also have access to Game Pass with all the modern day classics like Avowed, Hellblade II and Grounded and Pentiment.

I think we all have to acknowledge that after all the criticism of Switch 2 on ResetEra it’s evidence that it will fail to sell and the Asus will outsell it. Dreamcast pushed Sega out of hardware, we all have to accept that the perfect storm of Switch 2 pricing, an Xbox-branded Asus and Phil Spencer and Aaron Greenberg’s persuasive promotion will likely kill off Switch 2 within a month. AND YOU CAN QUOTE ME ON THAT.

FinalFantasyFanatic77d ago (Edited 77d ago )

@VenomUK,
I don't think that even has a remote chance of happening, Nintendo has so much brand loyalty, even with the backlash on their not so great pricing, I still think it's going to sell, Xbox doesn't have as much brand loyalty. Plus, if it's just Xbox branded ROG Ally or something similar, why not just choose a ROG ally or Steam Deck? They can both do everything that an Xbox branded handheld can. If Xbox is going to compete in the world of windows based handhelds, it has so much competition, it's going to struggle.

You're way too optimistic about the Xbox handheld and the demise of the Switch 2, I'm going to predict the opposite and say the Switch 2 will demolish the Xbox handheld in terms of sales/popularity.

S2Killinit77d ago

@VenomUK
Not sure if sarcasm or satire.

VenomUK77d ago

@S2Killinit Satire. I’m not going to hate on people for being excited for a new console. But what is happening in the Xbox community is something wicked, content creators are hyping up the Asus to their audience about how great this thing is, and how it will be more powerful than the Switch 2 and the Steam Store outweighs any advantage the Switch 2 has with its library of games. I don’t believe they believe it but they are grifting. By all means look forward to it but don’t sell it as a Switch 2 PS5 killer.

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PanicMechanic78d ago

Steam Os is amazing. By far the best. Can’t imagine MS having an OS that can top it (CERTAINLY not windows)

crazyCoconuts78d ago

Well they're gonna try. They've already stated they've been working on it.

FinalFantasyFanatic77d ago

Windows as is, isn't a great experience for a handheld, they really need to make a dedicated handheld OS, unfortunately they've always been hellbent on making a single product for both PC/touch screen use.

I really can't imagine them making something that stands up to Steam OS, it just works so well.

RaidenBlack77d ago (Edited 77d ago )

This is not their in-house made Xbox handheld for next-gen, which is slated for release in 2027 alongside with the next Xbox console, which might run a version of their usual Xbox-ified OS optimized for the handheld.
This is just a brand collab to produce an Xbox branded updated Asus RoG Ally (Project Kennan), which as usual ships with Windows. Think of it as the 5th main competitor in handheld PC market, after Deck, Legion Go, Ally and MSi Claw (I know others exist, but these are the popular ones).
https://wccftech.com/xbox-h...
And RoG Ally didn't get an update this year like the Legion Go, so this Xbox-Asus one might be that?
Anyways, even with 2025 chip upgrade, the Legion Go underperforms compared to 2023 Ally and 2024 Ally X.

crazyCoconuts78d ago

It can't be anything but Windows if it has the Xbox brand on it. Outside of the politics (which would be a showstopper), SteamOS/Linux can't run GamePass natively due to the crazy protections implemented by the Windows Store.

neutralgamer199278d ago

I am not asking the Xbox handheld to run steam, I just wanted a dedicated Xbox app on the handheld that handles everything from playing games, downloading games, gamepass and most importantly all updates are done from that app. Just a better overall user experience

Having to download multiple different things on a Windows based device becomes really a chore in a smaller screen.

crazyCoconuts78d ago

Having the windows handheld auto launch the existing Xbox Windows app will accomplish everything you mentioned, and I'm sure that's what this will be.
Fact is that MS will need to add a lot into that app to incorporate all the system level controls Steam incorporated into their handheld UI.

OmegaSoldati77d ago

Steam Deck for the win! Switch too.

Profchaos77d ago (Edited 77d ago )

It'll be windows all leaks indicate this is a windows based device with a Xbox skin it will integrate other storefronts because at its core it's windows.

@venom there's is no chance that parents will be buying their kids a rog ally setting up steam and other storefronts over a Nintendo switch 2 at Christmas.

That's a mass amount of hopium there.

Portable PC's in total have barely cracked six million sold the switch 2 will continue to dominate the casual crowd all known about it and news of a switch successor has already started spreading in mainstream media

neutralgamer199277d ago

I think switch 2 will do well but dominate I think we need to wait and see. The prices of the console and games is much more than switch so don't expect parents in this inflation time to spend $600 on 2 games and a console. Since it's Nintendo it should sell but I think we are underpaying the importance of the inflated market

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anast78d ago

Every inch of this things is going to be a subservice.

Aloymetal78d ago

And an even bigger flop in the making, it's like they're just throwing crap at the wall and see what sticks or rather find another ''clever'' way to keep squeezing more money from the already miniscule and gullible fanbase. Smfh.

Reaper22_77d ago

Squeezing money. Isn't that what sony is doing with tbe ps5pro. And what about all those remakes and locking some ps4 games to a subscription.

ABizzel177d ago

At first I thought this was a huge mistake on MS part. But after thinking about this more and more, while I still don’t think it’s going to do anything beyond 10 - 20 million in sales, I think that’s exactly what MS and ASUS are expecting and both are okay with.

I assume this is more of Asus saying to MS, look we have ten/twenty million of these handheld PCs already in production and we’ve only been able to sell a couple millions, partner with us and let’s brand them as Xbox handhelds ASUS will do all the heavy lifting so we don’t take a loss on all these, and all MS has to do is market the platform and put your logo, the new Xbox OS/app you’ve been working on, and together we’ll helps each other out and push more GamePass subscriptions.

That make complete logical sense as to why this came about, because otherwise….. So technically it would be a win:win for both companies, or a win for MS and a reduction of loss of ASUS, even if they only sell 10m - 20m units.

As for the handheld itself honestly, it should be solid and most likely based on the Rog Ally 7, but hopefully with the Rog Ally X case as that has a much better port and I/O layout. Plus if the Xbox OS is wayyyyyyy lighter than Windows then it should be a a good piece of tech getting more performance than the Ally 7 Windows version for around $499.

But that’s where the next problem comes into play…..Price. It’s Switch 2 all over again. The slight different is outside of the potential of DLSS, this should be a slightly more powerful handheld, especially if they create their own dock, but that dock will likely be sold separately meaning now we’re looking at $550 or more, for what will essentially be a docked Xbox Series S and a slightly more powerful SteamDeck / Switch 2 in handheld mode.

peppeaccardo77d ago

The Irrelevant-Held will be able to connect to the XFLOP Series X

anast77d ago

ha! It might last longer than the Stadia.

Profchaos77d ago

Basically what windows os turning into now every few weeks logging on I'm greeted with a hey how about some office 365 or your gamepass lapsed how about renewing and decline is in little blue writing while subscribe is a huge button

anast77d ago

This and I also get a pop up to subscribe to Xbox GamePass.

PanicMechanic78d ago

So smart of you caveman Phil sphincter. Did you get the memo on what Nintendo is releasing this year?

Kyizen78d ago

I dont trust Microsoft to build an OS for this looking at the Windows phone so I think this will be just Windows with a Steam like Big Picture mode locked in the UI to launch games.

Rockstar78d ago

This is good advice from Reaper here. I trust your advice and you've got my word...I wont buy it.

Thanks Reaper!

YourMommySpoils77d ago

Then don't complain about facts.

PanicMechanic77d ago (Edited 77d ago )

So in other words, it’s just another ROG Ally. I think MS has a winner🤣🤣

FinalFantasyFanatic77d ago

I remember when my sister bought a Windows phone, that thing was missing so many basic features, she didn't even own the phone for 3 months before getting frustrated and swapping it out.

Profchaos77d ago

I'll be honest I had a older relative that loved the windows phone cause it had a huge dial, contacts and camera button that was all it got used for.

Oh and it was bright green so easy to find

Moral of the story one person's trash is another's treasure

Reaper22_77d ago

Windows phones weren't the best but I also remember sonys phones didn't fare too well either. As a matter of fact they're newest ones aren't doing so great either. Not even in Japan. That says alot.

Profchaos77d ago

@reaper22 honestly Shane about the Sony phones to I brought the Xperia 3 when they announced remote play for it and it was one of the best ones I have had the battery lasted a few days the camera was some obscene 50mp but the physical design lagged behind Samsung and I think that was a huge reason it failed

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Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Reassures Xbox Gamers Their Gaming Library Isn't Going Anywhere

Xbox's CEO Phil Spencer assures that, even though they are expanding to other platforms, Xbox gamer's libraries aren't going anywhere.

jznrpg127d ago

Phil, the words of a guy who only speaks the truth.

If I was an Xbox owner I wouldn’t feel comfortable with what he just said

crazyCoconuts126d ago

Reading his quote sounds like word salad. I'm not sure he said anything really.

darthv72126d ago

I'd rather him say more of our library will be made available now. It sucks to have so many 360 era games still stuck in limbo, especially Activision ones now that they are buddy buddy.

VenomUK126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

Sarah Bond had committed to backwards compatibility, so interpreting Phil Spencer’s quote, old Xbox games will always be playable with a PS3 on PSN like cloud solution, and on new hardware if a new Xbox console is ever released.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/04...

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Scissorman127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

why does this even need to be reassured? it really goes to show you how nervous there fanbase is.

Eonjay127d ago

Right. I was thinking the same thing. This shouldn't be some sort of 'benefit' for Xbox gamers as MS goes to Sony and Nintendo... This should just be implied. No matter where the games go in the future should have any impact on the purchased games libraries of current Xbox consumers.

pwnmaster3000127d ago

Yup no matter how much they say they don’t care, the fanbase care lol

Profchaos127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

What's left of them one the last 12 months I've seen Xbox consoles flooding second hand marketplaces and going for half of their RRP

In addition this interview the whole panel was clearly not believing the viewpoint but not wanting to offend their guest

LabRat126d ago

When (or "if") Xbox goes out of hardware those who don't play on Cloud or prefer hardware...where will they play their library?

PhillyDonJawn125d ago

Not the question. If you already gave the hardware and games. Why would it disappear?

Chocoburger127d ago

Ah yes, Phillip, the pinnacle of honesty, and he never changes his mind. We can all take his word for it without hesitation. 🤥

Profchaos127d ago

He did but in the follow up sentence he talked about charging pricing because they are a business so who knows maybe the next gen box has a fee to use their emulator service I imagine wine ports to a PC architecture

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