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Comparing Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo's presentations at E3 - time spent on games

An interesting comparison for Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo's presentations at E3.

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NewMonday4033d ago (Edited 4033d ago )

time showing games:

Sony: 1 hour 48 minutes
MS: 1 hour 30 minutes
Nintendo: just 47 minutes

total number of games shown:

Sony: 42
MS: 40
Nintendo: just 12 games

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R00bot4033d ago

Nintendo showed a bunch more, just not in the digital event.
Eg. they didn't show project giant robot, project gaurd, S.T.E.A.M., Star Fox (!), devils third, etc. during their digital event.

NewMonday4033d ago

same goes for the others, on the show floor Sony had the most games.

AngelicIceDiamond4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

@Monday Really?

Show floor. You mean the show floor that you didn't attend? Your reaching pretty hard.

Btw indies headed to Vita don't really count seeing how they're not original Vita exclusively made titles.

They're just ports.

sinspirit4032d ago

@AngelicIceDiamond

And why are you arguing if you don't know? We all knew Sony had far more booths than their competitors. This was announced before e3. I personally know a gaming journalist that went there as well.

MS had more CGI, not ready to play games, Sony had many that they had shown last year that were available to play as well as new ones.

NewMonday4032d ago

@AngelicIceDiamond

the hundreds of media representatives attended the show, for example here is a report on vita games that includes many exclusives not talked about in the Sony show..

http://www.psnation.com/201...

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DVAcme4032d ago

Wow... On numbers alone, Nintendo's showing was pitiful. MS and Sony are pretty much neck-to-neck, though Sony was able to add a lot on upcoming hardware and features to their conference, which I think was a wise choice to save for this E3 instead of last year's. MS had some great exclusives, though(Sunset Overdrive looks awesome).

animegamingnerd4032d ago

you do realize a lot of those games are just multiplats Nintendo actually more exclusives for the Wii U and 3DS at E3 then Sony and Microsoft had for their consoles

ado9084032d ago

@animegamingnerd And what does that exactly prove? Most if not all of those multiplatform games will not be on the Wii U. Meaning if you only own a wii U then it means you will not have as many selective games to play in comparison to the xbone and ps4. Obviously more exclusives need to announced for the wii u for the lack of 3rd party support that the wii u has. I hate how people will automatically assume victory for nintendo when the multiplatform support is abysmal. Exclusives aren't the only factors in considering what console did best its all the games they are all relevant.

elninels4031d ago

@Ado908

Assuming multiplatform games won't be on wii u is being ignorant of business practices. As lomg as wii u sells well over the next 6-1012 months those games will get ported over. No one ignores money.

DoctorJones4032d ago

NewMonday Damage Control in effect.

Magnes4032d ago

Angelicdiamond Damage Control in effect.

randomass1714032d ago

Actually NewMonday keeps trying to convince us that Nintendo's awesome conference was buh-buh-buh-bad to the bone. Isn't that more like reverse damage control?

Pogmathoin4032d ago

I am sure there is a point here somewhere.... Are we going to break it down to how many minutes per game?? How anal will it get?

MrTimesplitters4032d ago

"Just 47 Minutes" You do know that Nintendo showcased non-stop gameplay of many of the games announced during the digital event and even new ones through Nintendo Treehouse. It also showed a lot more than just 47 minuets more like 10+ hours over the course of 3 days. Also these statistics doesn't even include games like Mario Party 10, Code Name steam, Devils Third etc. Which would in total be much more than just 12 games. Overall I think Nintendo had a better E3 showing than both Sony and Microsoft.

AngelicIceDiamond4032d ago

Wow did someone really take the time to do this?

Lol ok.

Anyway @Monday Sony had more indie timed exclusives to fill in the gap. Not like it really matter's Sony still showed allot of games though.

But at the end MS and Nintendo's focus on games still beats out Sony's overall focus.

sinspirit4032d ago

"Focus games". What nonsense is this? Please, refer to my list below and tell me what you're talking about, and if there is anything wrong with it do tell me.

Sony e3 2014:

AAA:
- InFamous: Last Light
- LittleBIGPlanet
- Uncharted 4
- Bloodborne
- The Order: 1866

Indie:
- No Man's Sky
- Let It Die
- and dozens more.

Remakes/remasters:
- Ratchet and Clank
- The Last of Us

Free-To-Play:
- Kingdom Under Fire II
- Planetside 2
- War Thunder
- and more.

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Microsoft e3 2014:

AAA:
- Forza
- Sunset Overdrive
- Crackdown
- Halo 5

Other: Games that aren't on the scale of AAA games.
- Fable Legends(multiplayer spinoff...)
- Project Spark(just a creation tool so far).
- KI:Season 2(just a rerelease..)
- Scalebound(nothing but a CGI trailer not much to say whether it is AAA or not.)

Indie:
- Inside
- Ori
- and dozens more.

Remakes/remasters:
- Halo
- Phantom Dust

Are there some AAA games I've missed? Who is more focused when MS showed Halo and Forza, which they show about every year like it's an excuse and Halo is terribly milked now? Do you think that a CGI trailer and spinoff franchises count as AAA just because 1st party developers make it? If the developer has little reputation or the game isn't known to be a big franchise then I would not rush to try and label it as such.

ziggurcat4032d ago

@ angelicicediamond:

MS's parity clause prevents games from coming out on xbox if it's been released on another system first... so "timed exclusive" doesnt' exist from playstation to xbox.

christocolus4032d ago

@zigurat

You are wrong. Warframe, contrast and even witness are timed exclusives. Atleast for now warframe and contrast are already on their way to xbox one and no mans shy was announced as first on ps4. Its a times exclusive bro.

aragon4032d ago

@sinspirit the fact u put lpb3 and an infamous add on or standalone as aaa for ps says it all for you, scalebound is aaa so is fable by your logic, project spark f2p so is project spark, dont forget happy wars

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MasterCornholio4032d ago

Thats pretty cool. I think all three did well.

Parapraxis4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

Since you got this bit wrong, let me correct you, NewMonday.

Press conference lengths:

Sony: 1 hour 48 minutes
MS: 1 hour 30 minutes
Nintendo: just 47 minutes

And anyway, you are just copying text from the graphs, is there an actual point to your post?

Click through and see the graphs people...it's really not that hard.

animegamingnerd4032d ago

how many of those Sony and Microsft games i can get on PS3, 360, or PC in 2014?

lilbroRx4032d ago

Only to the blindest of fanboys. Sony had the worst to any one who wants new games this year and isn't obsessed with Shooters.

0P-Tigrex4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

Microsoft's bulk of the conference was mulitplat gameplay..a demo to a multiplayer beta access to Fable.. and some indies.. Everything else was CGI trailer 1st party IP related..... how did they win?

mkis0074032d ago

Are you trying to call the last of us, littlebigplanet, no mans sky, grim fandango, bloodborne, and driveclub shooters? Just because a gun exists in a game doesnt make it a shooter... gameplay mechanics... fps( first person shooters). Meanwhile on xbox you have...4 halo games...

DigitalRaptor4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

@ lilbroRx

Sony showed MORE. They had MORE surprises. MORE games, from MORE categories. MORE games on the show floor.

Stop with this bulls**t narrative that because MS managed to fill their press conference with 90% multiplatform games and not show anything non-gaming related because it was wise for them not to garner any criticism on that front, that they had a better conference.

MS didn't even have a game shown that could compete with Bloodborne: one of the most hardcore of hardcore action-RPGs. Everything substantial was either already known, or CGI'd to 2016.

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Automatic794032d ago

New Monday do you get paid by Sony.

Zero-One4032d ago

Piss off you and all the rest just begging to see Sony fail.

MTEC84032d ago

Slightly off topic....imo Nintendo won E3. Looking to pick up a Wii U in 2015 to complement my PS4.

wonderfulmonkeyman4032d ago

lol dat SPIN!
Sorry, but they're taking more than the main conferences into account with time showing games, so with the Treehouse, and taking into consideration Microsoft and Sony's propensity for talking about their multimedia stuff, Nintendo's was the one with more time showing games.
Stay salty!

NewMonday4032d ago

if you want to count time out side the press conference then might as well count 72+ hours for both MS and Sony

spin that!

King-u-mad4032d ago

why do people keep thinking playstation TV is TV related... do research guys... it's game related... The original name for it was the PSVita TV. Its for playing games on another TV say the one you usually use is in use you can stream what you are playing to it and or play vita games on your tv... of course it will have other features that you have on the ps4 and psvita already. apps like crunchyroll, netflix, etc...

kenshiro1004032d ago

Its like talking to a brick wall. Don't bother.

Reeze4032d ago

Goodness gracious, why does this guy even have bubbles anymore? Considering many games were presented outside of the actual presentation, it seems like he's fishing for anything he can grasp on to.

wonderfulmonkeyman4032d ago

He has bubbles thanks to alt accounts, methinks.
There's no way he'd have them otherwise unless there really are that many trolls out there who actually agree with him.XD

BullyMangler4032d ago

Bayonetta 2 trailer and new gameplay put both Sony and Microsoft shows to shame. So whats your point ?

djplonker4032d ago

You must be sniffing glue if you think any Nintendo game looked better than no mans sky....

Shnazzyone4032d ago

Writer knows how to bait. That's for sure. Hilarious stuff. Look at sony's free marketing PR group go to work. Spin it! Spin that shit. Nothing positive about nintendo can ever be allowed.

one thing can be said about the nintendo conference. It was entertaining throughout. I would like to see the percentage stats of boredom on MS and Sony's conferences.

They were grueling.

assdan4032d ago

Agreed. It disapoints me that people keep knocking sony's conference. If that 15 minute segment were taken out, sony would be the clear winner to everyone. When the fact of the matter is Sony still spent more time on games, and showed more. That has to mean something. Honestly, Sony just needs to stop having that 15 minute segment in the middle that they always do.

wonderfulmonkeyman4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

72+ hours of what?
Letting people play on the show floor?
Oh wait, Nintendo did that too.
But the difference is, they kept on showing brand-new stuff on their games through The Treehouse.
The other two did not do so.
Sony and Microsoft didn't do anything like The Treehouse. Aside from their booths, they stopped the moment their conferences were done.

Keep spinning, hater. Till you're dizzy and puking.

IVIEDICATED4031d ago

Pretty immature and incorrect. Hey we all grew up on Nintendo back when "now youre playing with power" still rang true but it doesn't anymore. Truth is Nintendo stopped playing with power decades ago sure they still make great games just not for adults its all kids games thats the niche theyre filling. The thing is the Wii U isnt selling great and nothing they show will fix the extreme power difference the Wii U suffers from and Nintendo has been flat out left in the dust by Sony and MS for again decades now the fact that the Wii U is Nintendos first HD console supports my claim. They said they wanted to brimg back the hardcore gamers with the Wii U and they've failed miserably on that front. They have been abandoned by 3rd party publishers who refuse to take heavy losses supporting a struggling platform. They need more games across broader genre's than they have now nothing they have appeals to anyone but kids until they fix this core problem the Wii U will continue to stay in last place. Your fanboy drivel isn't reality.

BTBuck14032d ago

i love how you got 70+ dislikes for just stating facts people don't want to hear..

facts, they are pesky things aren't they?

LOL

showtimefolks4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

everyone had great conferences for my money and my taste in gaming sony showed the most but to each their own. Also you better believe we will see some huge reveals at gamescom from sony's European development side

also at TGS

deep down
the last guardian please

also why is it that everyone cares so much about exclusives at E3, most of the big titles actually come from 3rd parties. Sony has so much timed/exclusive content from 3rd party games like MS got last gen

also getting to play destiny beta early along with battlefield beta is a huge bonus too

some of my most anticipated games are 3rd party titles

XxGOWxX4032d ago

Umm you read the graph wrong.

Those are the total times they were on stage.
67% of MS time was on games. So 60.3 minutes
54% Sony. 58.3 minutes
66% Nintendo. 31 minutes

elhebbo164032d ago

How much of those games were shitty indie and third party? Nintendo strictly talked about their OWN games, dont come with this bullsh*t about Sony having 42 AAA games.

Reverie4031d ago

Don't attack the divinity of Sony. N4g will get mad.

Kennytaur4031d ago

Way to be a dick about it with the "just". Nintendo had a much shorter show, and focused almost solely on exclusives. That's why the stats aren't in their favour. And yet, they were the most focused, with least amount of filler and in my opinion had the best presentation.

Sony actually had the worst presentation of the three in terms of momentum and focus, but some of the games shown were more interesting than what shown at Microsoft. The whole movies part brought Sony down.

elninels4031d ago

Present the information, then offer your opinion. Present your information with passive aggressive "just's" for nintendo information doesn't allow readers to reach their own judgements undeterred.

Nintendo kept it short and sweet, and I believe all the games they showed were exclusive, please correct me if im wrong. Where is that information in your post?

Nintendo showcased why one should want a wii u, and if it begins to sell then many of those multiplat games shown on Microsoft's and sony's stage will come to wii u.

I will buy a wii u either this winter or spring, based largely off of e3 this year.

AndrewLB4031d ago

Your numbers are BS because what you're listing there is time spent presenting. Look at the pie graphs and do a little math and you'll see that Microsoft spent 60 minutes showing games and Sony spent 58 minutes showing games. The rest of the time both companies were talking about other things.
Microsoft also spent more time showing gameplay and discussing it than Sony did.

Also, over half of the games Sony talked about or showed off wont be available till 2015 at best while the vast majority of Microsoft's games will be out this year.

Seems to me that since Sony had so few games to show, they packed the presentation with games that are more than 7 months off.

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MNGamer-N4032d ago

Percentage of games: 90%.
Percentage of percentages: 76%
Percentage of time wasted on this article: 100%
Brain cells burnt: 89%.

What is this a math quiz? F*** I need a calculator.
Nintendo won, Microsoft 2nd, Sony third. May the fanboy rage commence.

NNID: Nate-tendo
PSN: MNGamer-N

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils6h ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

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isarai1d 10h ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning771d 8h ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher10h ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor10h ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde8h ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30004d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger4d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30004d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto4d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing694d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif4d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing694d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif4d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot4d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast4d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto4d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos4d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo4d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner3d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted4d ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast4d ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay4d ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted4d ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34854d ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK4d ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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