Jonathan Morin, Watch_Dogs' creative director, had something to say when asked about next gen consoles graphics for Watch_Dogs vs PC.
Nothing to worry about for people getting it on PS4/Xbox One :)
Agreed and I don't mind a sacrifice to resolution to achieve that... If the option was Medium settings @1080p with 30fps against High Settings @900p(794p for x1) with 30fps... I'd pick the Higher Visuals with lower res every time, no point sacrificing Visuals for resolution...
Well 789p doesn't really help the graphics if you're playing on a 60" full 1080p display. I would rather have full native resolution on a large display than slightly upgraded smoke or other effects. I've always liked that about PC gaming. At least they have a choice. Choosing how important the resolution is depends on the display.
I hate the Wii, and a Wii U is a Wii none the less.
@ArgumentumAdPopulum The difference between medium and high settings is more than 'slightly upgraded smoke or other effects'…
Funny how now res dont matter. Lmfao what happened? Months and months of 1080p this 720p that. You finally realize a ugly game is still a ugly game in 1080p. Hmph or are yall switching to suit yourselves and what you want? Or is it that the weakest console does 1080p 60fps like its standard? Lmfao dont forget fellas and ladies, we have played awesome games before there was 1080p anything. Ill trade 1080p for a game thats worth my 60 bucks any day. You guys are worried about the wrong thing. If you were talking gameplay, emersion, something that puts a smile on your face, xp that youll remember for ever. The devs wouldnt be selling you specs and numbers, but thats what you, the consumer seems to be focused on. Why focus on games when all they want is 1080p and specs so they can get on the net and tell the world things it doesnt give a shi* about. Smh
@Lightning Mr Bubbles What the shit did that have to do with anything?
Well semi-correct. I'll be playing at 2560x1440 at 96fps on my PC. I guess there is Ultra too. Love my PS4 but I hate articles that try and make the playing ground seem more even than it really is. It will look damn good on consoles regardless. No need to try and make it seem like there is no need for a multiple thousand dollar PC if your in to that kind of thing. We'll all be playing the same game regardless. :)
Sorry, I have to call B.S. on that one Ubisoft. A PC would be able to get that 1080p resolution, and you chose to focus on 900p for the PS4. That already shoots the claim that the graphics will be the same right out of the water. I may not like PC elitism, but let's be honest and ditch the PR machine.
You do understand that resolution is directly attributed to visuals? 720p looks like crap after I have been playing on a PC with 1080p due to the resolution.
There is still the Ultra settings on PC. Tomb Raider ran close to Ultra settings on PS4 with unlocked frame rate but I guess we can chalk this one up as a cross-gen game limitation.
Thing is that the ps4 version has its own extra development. If the PC and ps4 both got the definite edition, the PC version would have looked better than it did, even in ultra.
Basically the ps4 version of tombraider was an upgrade that never got ported to PC.
The re-mastered console version still looked worse overall (of Tomb Raider), even with the entirely new textures over the PC version. Plenty of pics prove it. Get close to the textures and the standard textures found on PC wins massively every time.
My biggest problem is the AA problems low resolutions brings when upscaled. 900p is not that bad but 796p to 1080p is a lot of scaling.
It runs "high" settings at 900p and this creative director will say a lot of BS to get you to buy the console version if you have a console. Meanwhile we on pc can enjoy ultra settings and personally I will be playing it at 4K with my new 4K samsung monitor, also we have HBAO plus, tessellation, Physx, TXAA aliasing, 60fps and more included with ultra settings so don't say it will be close, even the nvidia trailer with direct gameplay of watch dogs running on pc you can see how much better it looks.
Stop throwing out pointless technical terms like tessellation, physx, TXAA aliasing in an attempt to make the console version seem shit. Yes we all know the PC version will be the best looking but for what we pay for our console in comparison to that PC you payed for we are getting a great looking game... so pls save the PC masturbator race speech for someone who cares...
@HaydenJameSmith U mad bro? throwing out technical terms? yes and they all make the game look amazing and make it look like a 2014 game not some GTA 5 console look alike in the day time on consoles so please... PS4 fanboys are like Muhhhhhh GDDDDRR5 loll
"U Mad Bro?" and "GTA 5 console look alike" statements like that make me laugh and assure me I don't have to take anything you say seriously...
Of course it'll look great on a PC, but you don't have to brag about it. We all know that already! since you want to jump on the trolleybus and troll and be immature to, bubble down.
I doubt anybody here is mad. If you're going to play it on PC, good for you. Just don't come here, bragging, and acting like people care. Next time you feel like trying to brag about your beast rig, remember this.... http://s3.amazonaws.com/rap...
At least we got to play GTA5. But I hear you might be getting Red Dead Redemption soon, so have fun, its a great game. Hey, I have nothing against PC gaming or PC gamers, but Hayden is right, the constant rubbing our noses in it is annoying and I was just pointing out both sides of the coin have their merits.
So when the pc version looks the best it doesn't matter and no one cares. But everyone seems to care about which console version looks the best. When PC is involved it doesn't matter and pc gamers shouldn't brag about it but it's ok to brag about how many 1080p games your console of choice has over the other consoles. Oh the hypocrisy.
ADO75, I don't care what version looks better. I prefer to play the games, not the graphics. No hypocrisy here. So guess what... http://static.someecards.co...
@Future_2015: Sir, you know your stuff! Nothing better than "TXAA aliasing"...
Yeah sure so I guess the whole "watch dogs will be 1080p/60 fps on PS4 and not on xbox one" claims just didn't happen right? I agree as well I play games to not graphics but please stop being blind to the console fanboy hypocrisy on graphics. Do you tell that to xbox and playstation fanboys when they brag about graphics? But oh no I forgot it's ok for them to talk about it but pc gamers can't or they're elitists.
Well congratulations mr fancy pants. Enjoy playing it on your 4k whatsit which normal people can't afford. The rest of us are going to play it on whatever our budget allows us to. But only if that's ok with you. Should we submit our applications for playing to you in written form?
who the hell still says you mad bro in 2014? Enjoy playing on that thousand dollar monitor that will probably crap out ina couple months on that $1000 machine that will have various graphical bugs like 90% of PC games and spend the first few months on boards trying to figure out why your game is lagging on a $600 card and $200 cpu wit no bottleneckzz, then wait another few months for updates to fix those bugs just to play on settings that looks slightly better.
PC gamers can be some real dicks sometimes. It's like the racism of gaming
@AD705 Yh you mad? Leave the console comparisons to consoles. Think of it like this, two guys are comparing their dogs to see which is faster, then outta nowhere a guy comes bragging that his horse is faster than both dogs. If you didn't catch it, consoles are the dogs pc is the horse. So why not go compare your horse to other horses. Leave us peasant console owners to our petty quarrels and try not to force pc into it.
LOL I don't even see why I come here anymore. All I ever hear from the console fanboys on this site is arguing with one another over which console is more powerful, who has the better graphics, whose hardware will improve over time, how these consoles are high end pc equivalents etc etc..... But when you hear about how they're nothing compared to a PC you guys start crying wolf and claiming these things do not matter. I don't care about if this is a console discussion. Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. Hell sony fanboys still damage control over the fact that watch dogs isn't 1080p/60fps like they all said it would be. I'll go back to my ps4 and pc and leave you guys to argue over graphics, something you guys never claim to talk about or care for yet do so all the time.
@Dmarc actually that rig will cost well over 1,000 the graphics card themsevles will probably go near 2,000 since its in 4k running SLI. But anyways Ill be getting it on X1 and im okay with that:)
I Dont even know why you bother. They are just going to deny and downplay PC no matter what. They talked up how the gfx was going to compete with the PC version, and now that the news is out that it can't even reach 1080p at high, they are making excuses. They console fanboys downplay everything that doesn't make their console superior, but when the facts come up they lie, make up excuses, and deflect. Look at them yeah we Dont have gtav. If it Dont come out o well rockstar lost. Ill save my money. They only come out with like 3 games a gen. If ps4 had the best version, PS fanboys would of treated like the second coming . I like how people say they dont care about those features, but when sony state a feature that has been used on pc for the longest yall treat them like they discovered the cure for cancer. If ps4 had the best version ps fanboys would of bashed bone in every article and said the usual bs to PC gamers. Upgrading every 6 months just to run a game that ps4 do better . That why I just brought a ps4 instead. Now the facts is out and its can't even run on ultra at 900pp. Gotta love the flip flopping . Sony gymnastics at its finest
"All I ever hear from the console fanboys on this site is arguing with one another over which console is more powerful, who has the better graphics, whose hardware will improve over time, how these consoles are high end pc equivalents etc etc..... But when you hear about how they're nothing compared to a PC you guys start crying wolf and claiming these things do not matter. " ^^^This 1000x
Future_2015 If you didint knew. WD on ps4 has TXAA but their own i Think it was SXAA. Its the same. It has physx effect too and tesselation. THe only diffrent is HBAO plus which doesent matter so NG consoles is very very Close to PC :);)
@AD705 The difference is people are comparing consoles here, consoles which cost below £500! THAT'S THE KEY FACTOR!!! you cant throw pc in the mix when there are just way too many variables! I own and game on all platforms, dont believe me check my avatar! granted i have not included my gaming pc into that pic, since that wouldn't be practical! regardless i am so tired of these new age pc gamers who talk so much shit! they like to brag about how pc games are so much better performing then console games which is a moot point since with pc you spend however much you like and build a pc as powerful as you need! With console its all about value for money and balancing power with price. The fact is for a console which is only £350 the PS4 performs like a champ!! PC gamers need to get out of the argument because they are not part of it! if u get a PC which is £350 and has all the same parts as PS4, X1, and am talking about EVERYTHING! the blue ray drive, the Ethernet adapter, the u.s.b ports, a gpu, a cpu EVERYTHING!!! if you get a pc with the same exact specs and tech as a PS4/X1 no way it will perform as good as the consoles! Even if you could, consoles offer simplicity and have their own pro's and cons just like pc does! all platforms offer exclusives you cant get on the rival platforms, pc gaming is not for everyone! and can be daunting to some gamers! I have been gaming a long time and these days gamers are a total joke! its all about the games! the fact is most people who game on pc do not own beast rigs like most like to claim, they own average pc's and play on med/high settings even low, but the majority do not play on ultra! this is a fallacy! So stop talking shit, you cant compare a £350 console performance with a powerful gaming pc! ITS IDIOTIC! i can spot the new pc gamers and the liars from a mile away, am not calling you either just grow up! i see to many pc only gamers bitter because the gaming world doesn't revolve around them and so constantly bash everything to do with consoles! And i feel sorry for people who are not as fortunate as me to be able to own and game on ALL PLATFORMS! i wish everyone could, there are great exclusive games on EVERY PLATFORM! consoles and pc alike! so get off your high horse and grow up dude, you make pc gamers look bad!!! I am actually disappointed with the performance of watchdogs on the consoles! its blatantly not as good as it could have been! but too many people are forgetting we are still in year 1 of the consoles life, looking at grand theft auto 5 and the last of us shows that by year 5,6,7 the games are going to be INSANE on the PS4/X1/WiiU! If they last that long that is!
For the record I play on both PC, consoles, and even handhelds. I've been pc gaming since the 90's and started gaming in general with the NES and I own almost every console from the NES to now except for the xbox one. Nothing in my post was about "pc superiority" or anything like that. All I was doing was pointing out the hypocrisy I've been seeing as of late with console fanboys and graphics/ resolution gate bullshit. They make constant claims about how their console has this awesome power, how it will run every game at 1080p/60fps etc etc.... but when it turns out to not be the case they go berserk and start damage controlling like crazy and then start contradicting themselves by pretending that they never cared for graphics in the first place when they actually did. All the PC side does is just expose them for that. I do not expect my ps4 to be as powerful as my PC, same with the wiiu and xbox one but you gotta admit it is kinda pathetic how these consoles seem to have trouble running games on settings that came out in 2004. Especially when we're close to 4k, 1440p, 1600p resolutions and what have you. All we've heard about for the last year is how watch dogs will be 1080p/60fps on consoles but when it turns out to be untrue it doesn't matter.
Still not gonna pay an extra $400-500 to get slightly better graphics. That's just tech elitism at its finest. It's like those Google glasses consumers who brag about spending all that money on glorified reading glasses with a camera on top.
Seems like someone is full of himself...don't be that guy....just don't
4K, 60 fps... Hahaha i bet i'll enjoy watchdogs more because you'll spend most of your time caring about fucking numbers and graphical effects. I used to be like you, i had top of the range pc hardware.. The problem is, i boasted about it and i spent more time caring about resolutions and frame rates than playing and enjoying the actual games. I ended up selling it off and bought a Ps3, sure the image quality looked shit most of the time and the frame rates were usually chunky but i started to at least enjoy the games again like the ps1, sega, ps2 days. Since buying the Ps4.. Its only gotten better. Stable frame rates and no game i've played has been less than 900p. I couldn't give two shits about other peoples pc's, no one certainly gives a shit about yours "future 2015." Play the daam games and stop talking.
@LonDonE and you are forgeting about somthing (price wise) in 2-3, the price of the PS4 is likely to drop... So you will have a cheap a** machine which can preform prety well and run kickass games!
Seeing as how a mid-range GPU on the PC can run it ultra that isn't surprising.
Mid range GPUs can run it on ultra but the new consoles can only muster up high settings not even at 1080p?
But still, Morin said: 6GB of RAM. Isn´t that quite alot for minimum specs?
^^I've had 8GB+ of RAM for at least 6 years in all of my PC builds. My newest has 16GB as well as my last PC had 16GB. I mean, 8GB of RAM is only what, ~$40 now days?
and Wii U
@sdozzo I know the ps4 is a paper weight
That's implying all pcs play at 1080. I play at 2560 x 1440p. And definitely on ultra :P
You can't talk like that on this site. Resolution over 1080p doesn't exist until next gen.
you mean ps4 792p isnt all that great
High not ultra... Still high is pretty good for a console I guess although it wont run at 1080p 60fps.. I can get a PC and Watch dogs for less than either console and the game and run it at 1080p 60fps on high. However you cannot beat the convenience of a console.
except low resolution and framerate and no mods and more expensive and paying for online play.
I didn't know 900p was high settings. on a PC. LMAO WD Console is more like medium high PC
So was 2012 Ultra build graphics then? This is disappointing I was the downgraded graphics wouldn't be there on the PC build, but if they're about the same than next gen, we were robbed in the graphics department on PC. Never mind I'll get this on PS4 still, PC later on.
So you're going with the PS4 version over the PC version because "we were robbed in the graphics department on PC" but are still going to get it on PC later on? And how the hell does PC get "robbed in the graphics department" when compared to console?
hahahahahaha. I'm not naive, if I do get this game for PS4, it needs to come close and run smooth.
I will be playing 4K Ultra at 60 fps.
1080p and in stereoscopic 3D here.
4k stereoscopic here. Tridef SBS. Not quite up to the levels of the Battleblock Theatre Steam trailer (that everyone here should watch and appreciate).
What monitor does 4k and 3d?!?!?!
Not monitor, TV. It's samsung, and I am using tridef side by side 3d so not really a full 4k stereo like you get with frame packing. Double the quality of 1080p frame packed though.
Dang. I got excited for a minute. Been googling that monitor for days now. But I bet it still looks fantastic.
4K at 60fps? Dafuq kind of PC do you have? O_O
Ok so you're clarifying that no you don't have a good enough computer for 4k Ultra 60fps, good to know. Why do people always want so much RAM? it basically does nothing for your gaming, i7s atm are kind of pointless as well it's all about the GPU(s) really despite what ubisoft have said in regards to the importance of the CPU for watch dogs.
He have a PC Faster Than FTL
He probably doesn't have a PC at all. Just an iphone and an overactive 13 year old imagination.
@jazmac While I agree with you people go way overboard with the amount of RAM they put in their PC's for what they actually would need for gaming but to say CPU's are kind pointless is about the dumbest thing a person could ever say when it comes to a PC. CPU's are extremely important for PC's, maybe that may apply to consoles. I don't know where so many people get this misconception that all you need is a good GPU in a PC.. Again do these people even own gaming PC's or ever have? It sure as hell doesn't seem like it.
I hope you enjoy it. Joking.