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DriveClub game director leaves Evolution Studios

DriveClub's game director Col Rodgers has left Evolution Studios, VideoGamer.com can reveal.

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-Foxtrot4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Right Sony need to put a statement out and tell us what the f*** is going on.

Key people are leaving and they can't keep making us think it's the "Oh well everyone leaves at one point" excuse.

Amy Henning
Brian Karis
Jaime Griesemer
Seth Killian
Stig Asmussen
Jack Trenton

Other lay offs at Sony Santa Monica/Superbot

Then we have Guerrilla Cambridge and SCE London

Now Col Rodgers

This really can't be ignored, they need to make a statment on this. Who else am I missing....anyone?

HyperBear4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

And don't forget this is Jack Tretton's last week with SCEA as well :(

...lots of unknown stuff going on behind the scenes with Sony lately. I can only imagine the response "IF" Andrew House or Shu Yoshida would be the next to leave, Utter Chaos!

danny8184098d ago

I agree, but if it was Microsoft, people would be flipping out, even the media

PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt4098d ago

Maybe this driveclub director left because he doesnt want to delay the game again and he got into a arguemnt because of it?? idk just a guess,,

next week Driveclub canceled

PoSTedUP4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

my theory is that Jack let too much money get spent getting the PS4 up and doing this well (why he "left"), and this is the after effect; they need to save money and why pay ppl top dollar when someone else can do it better for cheaper. its not a good tactic or even smart to let everyone know things that they do not need to, especially the competition (hense why they arent going to say anything publicly)

or MS is buying them out or sony is collab-ing them and forming a super studio. :p

GarrusVakarian4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Rodgers left in February to start an indie studio, why is this only being reported now?

This has absolutely *nothing* to do with today's lay-off's. The title should read "Driveclub Game Director left Evolution Studio's in February to start indie company".

Jesus, people need to read the damn article before going crazy. It's funny to see all the usual Xbox fanboys who don't care whatsoever about Sony or the PlayStation brand not bother to read the article and spread FUD and pretend to be concerned.

Army_of_Darkness4098d ago

I will tell you all the reason why those well know Sony developers left their studios....
It's because they are forming a new Sony studio for a new AAA IP... There I said it. *drops mic*

Hatsune-Miku4098d ago

When a company has a lot of bloat and are losing money on unnecessary spending they don't have to do then you get rid of expenditures. A lot of people sony has been getting rid of have been with sony for a while and were collecting massive cheques and probably wanted raises on new contract which sony doesnt want to pay at the moment so they leave. Most of these people are easily replaceable.

If bill gates steps down from his ceo position from Microsoft do you think Microsoft will cease to exist or suffers? There are people there to replace him that can do what his job entails or better. He left and Microsoft is ok

youndamie4098d ago

Nooo not Yoshida, he's awesome. Seriously this is kinda unsettling.

PoSTedUP4098d ago

@hatsune. yup, i agree, and its very common practice.

HammadTheBeast4098d ago

I don't know, but this isn't looking good.

Dee_914098d ago

@-Foxtrot
I said it before
http://n4g.com/news/1477022...
and I'l say it again.. Invest, in waffles, now..

Seriously though, this cant all be a coincidence. Hopefully we will hear some answers near E3... just thinking of E3 without Jack makes me sad...

Realplaya4098d ago

@ Hatsune-Miku

Gates stepped down as chief executive officer of Microsoft in January 2000. He remained as chairman and created the position of chief software architect for himself. In June 2006, Gates announced that he would be transitioning from full-time work at Microsoft to part-time work, and full-time work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. He gradually transferred his duties to Ray Ozzie, chief software architect, and Craig Mundie, chief research and strategy officer. Gates's last full-time day at Microsoft was June 27, 2008. He stepped down as chairman of Microsoft in February 2014, taking on a new post as technology advisor to support newly appointed CEO Satya Nadella

MazzingerZ4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Wasn't the PS4 back to PS1-PS2 dev times?
This is not different from other companies getting modern systems or automatising tasks, people gets fired

Devs teams grew too big during PS3 era...usually when big adjustment are planned bosses and leaders leaves first as they don't agree nor wanna be part of it.

SONY is heading towards a most cost effective direction, but don't worry about the games, they'll keep coming, have lots of talented people...worrying would be if they did't do anything to prepare for the future.

I would be worried if I was a SONY employee not if I'm a gamer.

fr0sty4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Why should Sony release a statement? It is a big no-no in the business world to speak publicly about why a former employee left, unless there is a mutual agreement between both parties that it should be publicly disclosed.

Sony has their reasons. They're riding high right now with PS4, probably trimming the fat to keep things running smoothly. Also, it is very common for studios to hire and fire in large numbers when a game is ramping up or down its production. When a game is in pre-alpha stage, only a small team will be working on it. If that studio doesn't have any other projects going on, it only makes sense for them to hire on as many as they need. When the game goes on into full production, the team sizes swell up to as many as a few hundred people. Once the game is finished or if it gets canned, that team is reduced back down to the core elements.

Not everyone left for those reasons, I doubt Amy Henig did. That was probably a creative difference within Naughty Dog, rather than her being fired by Sony itself. Jack Tretton may have found a better job for all we know, or just wants to retire.

Also, we don't know how many of these people will end up at other positions within Sony or SCEWWS.

This sort of thing is common. Sony has been losing a lot of key people, but even if Sony fired some of them (like Stig's team when they canned his game), they probably had good reason. If you're investing 60 million dollars or more into a AAA masterpiece, it damn sure better be a AAA masterpiece. Sony wants 100% top quality so they can make some money, as software sales are a huge part of what makes PlayStation profitable. Sony is looking for those killer franchises that take over the industry... look at Halo's sales, or gears of war last gen. Sony's only real answer to those sales out of one of its exclusive franchises is Gran Turismo, which sells well each time reliably. However, games like Uncharted, God of War, etc. don't sell as well (even though they still sold millions of copies each) as games like Gears or Halo did despite being flagship titles for the PS3. Sony needs more huge selling games, so they're probably being pretty strict about which projects they are willing to put their money behind. Kaz is trying to make Sony profitable again, and since PS4 is turning out o be one of their biggest cash cows, he is probably being very careful about what kinds of big-budget risks they are taking with their software. A $50 million game or two that flops is a good way to erase a huge chunk of a console's profit. Hell, even several $10-20 million games. They all add up.

@mazzengerz, definitely not PS1/2 dev times, as games today are far more complex than they were back then, but definitely far less dev time than PS3 required.

AndrewLB4097d ago

You ever hear the expression "rats over the rails"? With so many prominent people leaving before the game's released, combined with no clarifying statement... it seems that ship may be sinking.

abzdine4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

the guy left months ago! read the article before going berserk in the comments

"Rodgers left the studio in February to form indie startup Big Red Switch Games, a development studio that he says is working on "some cool game concepts""

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thorstein4098d ago

How do you know what or why this happening? Why should they release a statement? Have you seen any industry that tracks the comings and goings of employees from one firm to another?

It would be great if they were all leaving to form a new studio.. that is a perfect hit list to make new IPs.

Alex_Boro4098d ago

Kind of hard to imagine so many people significant to the studio leaving at once. Something is obviously going on that we don't know about and we as fans and the ones who pay them for their games deserve to know what's happening.

Palitera4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Yeah.

My bet: Candy Clash Run or some garbage like that.

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@Foxtrot:

I don't think any statement would help. Everything they'd say probably wouldn't be the real reason. NO company speaks the truth on these matters.

-Foxtrot4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

I don't know thats what I'm saying gamers need a statement since this is a little worrying. Too many people have left now and it can't be ignored any longer.

"Have you seen any industry that tracks the comings and goings of employees from one firm to another?"

No but gaming isn't really like other industry's is it. I've seen more info when a screen writer or director leaves a project in Hollywood then I have here. Least then you get a reason like they aren't interested in it anymore or have scheduling issues.

"It would be great if they were all leaving to form a new studio.. that is a perfect hit list to make new IPs."

Honestly thats just wishful thinking to try and cover up what's going on here. Kind of like a "everything's fine, everything's fine, everything's fine" reassurance approach.

We shouldn't be ignoring this or letting it slide. If it was anyone else in this gaming industry the same questions would be asked.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4098d ago

That would be crazy news, make all of these seem like layoffs and resignations then boom, new studio with all those people. Doubt it though. Just seems like they're downsizing their gaming division to offset how poorly their tv division is doing.

thezeldadoth4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

at one point do sony people on this site stop being delusional? All these people joining forces in one company? Hopefully you're joking.

At some point you would think that religious corporate fanatics could find a bit of logic somewhere and stop spinning every single piece of news into a positive for sony.

iMaim4098d ago

Industrys changing man.
I didn't think we'd see headlines about some guy not deciding to make apps anymore.

God damn flappy bird.

gameon19854098d ago

Now dude, you truly are in denial. It's time for you Sony fans to wake up; there maybe a major shake up coming at Sony, and there's no need to keep making excuses hoping nothing is wrong.

thorstein4098d ago

Pardon me, I didn't realize that some people didn't understand the phrase "It would be great if..."

This is a phrase used in pure speculation. It should never, ever be confused as if someone were stating a fact. I am trying not to snark here as I am left with two conclusions: one that the readers of my comment really don't know the connotation of that phrase, or that two their reading comprehension is really poor.

I am speechless about that, I imagine that is where the disagrees come from: me thinking that it would be really cool if these people came together to make a new studio.

But to think that I intended that statement as fact.... speechless.

rainslacker4098d ago

It's possible the people leaving don't want a statement to be released. Since they're leaving they're open to be hired elsewhere, and the wrong statement can put a damper on finding employment elsewhere. If the net takes things the wrong way, which they often do, then all of a sudden that statement can become a liability.

air14098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

I don't think anyone is not understanding your wishfull thinking... I think it was the kool-aid before the "phrase" that has ppl like STFU..

You're like that guy that ALWAYS lets everyone down, you're the what if... Then it never happens kind of guy.. I bet you use the words "maybe, what if, and did you know?" a lot, bet you're very optimistic too..

kenshiro1004098d ago

Did anyone read what Lukas said? Anyone? The guy left to start his own studio...

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Palitera4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Not saying it is the cause, but maybe because the big money for little risk is on mobile?

ginsunuva4098d ago

you mean big money for little risk with very slim probability of success

ABeastNamedTariq4098d ago

I'm concerned. It's all happening too fast for my liking.

dodgemoose4098d ago

sorry but no, they don't need to do anything of the such. it's internal matters and there's no reason they should go public about it just because you want to be kept in the loop.

-Foxtrot4098d ago

We're all consumers who are expected to buy their product....I think with the amount of people leaving and people being let go we kind of deserve to know a little about whats going on

If it was one or two fine....but not this much.

Honestly, why do people such as yourself get ticked off when people want to know whats going on. You can't silence people who want the truth, we're all human and with being human comes curiosity.

Utalkin2me4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

@-Foxtrot

Are you concerned with people getting laid off or fired that makes your shoes? Or what about your clothes? Maybe the people getting laid of that makes your vehicle?

thezeldadoth4098d ago

yes because complete lack of transparency is progress and a good thing.

rainslacker4098d ago

@Fox

They get ticked off because you come across as demanding a statement. It's really none of your business. You buy the product, and if this change also changes the product, you can decide not to buy the product. The reasons for the change though are really between Sony and those leaving. It's really up to them if they want us to know what's going on.

-Foxtrot4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

@rainslacker

So what am I supposed to say...pretty please

To say it's the way I say it in my comments is ridiculous....it's text, you can't get a sense of any emotion or feeling in text people write on screen.

If your thinking it's "demanding" then that's your fault for perceiving it that way.

I just find it hilarious how people are saying stuff like that now and saying this doesn't matter but if it was Microsoft or Nintendo then everyone would be asking what the hell is going on bringing in doom and gloom articles.

Magnes4098d ago

Exactly Sony has been around for a long time I think they know how to handle business, they didn't start making video games and consoles this year. If there is a problem sounds like steps are being taken to fix things.

rainslacker4098d ago

Well fox when you say,

"We shouldn't be ignoring this or letting it slide"

"Right Sony need to put a statement out and tell us what the f*** is going on"

"This really can't be ignored, they need to make a statment on this"

then I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to take it. That seems pretty demanding to me. My fault if I perceived it wrong, which I'm sure I didn't. It may be text, but those are pretty strong words.

You come across as you feel that you are special in some way and deserve an answer to what's going on. But you aren't special. You're just coming across as an entitled gamer. The article stated why he was leaving. Otherwise, anything else is really none of your business unless you have some stake in the company itself, and even then, decisions such as these are between the company and the employee. It's up to them to decide if they want to disclose the reasons or not.

If that somehow affects the game in the end, then you can not buy the game to make your dissatisfaction known.

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joab7774098d ago

Its very odd. On the back of a successful launch of the ps4, increased vita sales and new VR tech, everyone is leaving.

3 possibilities exist. Coincidence...which isnt true. Everyone is moving on after a few hard years in which it all seemed to work out pretty well....like they held on to see next gen launch through and r now moving on to new things. Or...something is very wrong and we r not cued in.

I tend to think the 2nd simply b/c . I believe we would have heard something...and by all accounts, Sony seems to be soaring. Very strange though. I just think the industry is moving in a particular direction and many ppl want to move on to smaller independent projects and use their talents to make some money.

dodgemoose4098d ago

It's not that odd. Sony isn't doing too well as a whole and hasn't for quite some time. It doesn't really matter if the Playstation department is making profit, cuts still need to be made across the whole company in order to survive/return to a positive balance sheet.

Sony execs have probably laid down financial budgets to all the department managers and one amongst many ways of reducing costs is laying off people.

aragon4098d ago

Or maybe they found higher paying jobs????? Could be that simple, these people gotta eat and if they making 6 million a year with sony and a company offers them 20 million a year they gonna go for the money simple human logic.

trancefreak4098d ago

I think Adam is on the money here. We all know Sony has lost lots of it and perhaps they would really like to keep some of their key players in the industry but fat contracts or being slashed.

I don't like this at all being a Sony supporter but there are tough business decisions being made to trim the company it appears. After a successful launch of the PS4 Sony might feel they are on the right path with current talent with in that do not get paid as much and are contributing. This is very unfortunate but this is happening to a lot of business of late.

I think they are trying to rebuild/rebrand the company so they can thrive in the future. I really don't think they wanted Jack Trenton to leave but it is cost savings at work. I hate it but if slimming the company down so they can be around for long term and re profit they probably had no choice. I doubt it has anything to do with complacency and more to to do with big business survival.

andibandit4097d ago

"It's not that odd. Sony isn't doing too well as a whole and hasn't for quite some time"

and then they pull this VR rabbit project out of a hat....gotta wonder whats going on

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SourShoes4098d ago

They need to get Cerny on the line stat! He can straighten out this mess.

gameon19854098d ago

I don't think Sony are the ones who are using the "Oh well everyone leaves at one point" excuse. That excuse have been coming from the Sony fan boys who are in denial that Sony financial problems is effecting their games division. I really don't want to sound like I'm trolling but I think Sony's problems is just karma coming back on their fan boys. They are regularly posting Xbox is doomed articles when their is no reason for them to even be posted in the first place. You people act like the xbox one sales are horrible ( along with the bias media) when compared to Sony, but never mention that the PS4 is in 4 times as many countries. Not only that you people trash the console simply because they are Sony competitors, and no other reason. Some people claim they can't forgive them for DRM but the bible says you have to forgive someone even if they kill your own child(impossible to do I know, but it does say that). Yet, you fan boys can't let go of the past When the man who was pushing for it (Don Mattrick) isn't even in the company any more. Look know one is happy about this and I guarantee You wont ever see one Xbox fan say I hope the ps4 dies. We are not that brain washed as to where we would want see Microsoft as the only console maker. We understand that Sony and Microsoft need each other and the industry need them as a whole. But how Many of you Sony boys can sit there and say that you never wished for the death of the xbox one. See, that's what blind loyalty gets you...Karma.

@Foxtrot I'm not calling you a fan boy just posting this for all the fan boys to see. the first part of the post about the "Oh well everyone leaves at one point" was the only part where I was responding to you. The rest was me getting stuff of my chest lol.

Jdoki4098d ago

Congrats. That is the most ridiculous wall of text I've read on N4G.

My particular highlight " I really don't want to sound like I'm trolling but I think Sony's problems is just karma coming back on their fan boys"

Wow. You really need to get out in to the real world more.

Majin-vegeta4098d ago

China called they want their wallback.

Such dribble
much nonsense
Wow

kenshiro1004098d ago

That has to be the biggest pile of FUD I have ever seen here.

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Death4098d ago

The information has all been right in front of us for quite some time. You have to want to see it though. Sony has been bleeding money since the recession hit in 2008/2009 like all companies did. The tsunami that hit Japan made it even worse. The differance between Sony and their competitors is they have been able to recover since then. Sony hasn't been able to stop their losses let alone recover. They should have made cuts years ago so they would be stronger today.

Gamers are a fickle bunch. Microsoft "stopped supporting" the 360 according to many gamers. The reason for this was due to the cuts Microsoft made in 2008 when the recession hit. Once they recovered they started to rebuild their first party studios.

Sony didn't make these cuts when the timing was right so now they are being forced to react now. Once the reports surfaced that Sony was going to lose a billion this fiscal year, they started making cuts. What we are seeing this week is the making of the cover page for Sony's CEO's letter to investors that will be coming out in the near future. This is the beginning of the plan of action needed for Sony to survive without bankruptcy protection.

Sony will be fine, but more cuts are needed and it will take time to recover. Fans have been in denial far too long. The best thing we can do as gamers is support Sony in the only way we trully can and that is to buy more new software.

Ricegum4098d ago

Haha, you seem to know everything about Sony. Congratulations to this guy. Heck, he should be in charge at Sony, you know, to sort everything out. Oh wait, your comment history suggests you spout rubbish all the time, never mind.

B-radical4098d ago

I highly doubt they are delaying driveclub again.

But to foxtrot it could either be a huge coincidence that key people are leaving. Or it could be Sony's rearranging of the company.

Evilsnuggle4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

This is how business works people come and go. If DriveClub's game director can't get the job done get someone who can. Bravo Sony Don't waste your time and money when you see these problems. I said it many times got down votes and disgrees Drive Club should be in 1080p 60fps. Because if your closest competitor Forza5 is in 1080p 60fps. Then Drive club should be in 1080p 60fps. If Sony going around saying it's the most powerful consoles then prove it. You look like a hypocrite When you criticize Xbone for not running games in 1080p 60fps. But defender PS4 if Drive Club is not in 1080p 60fps.
I'm not a fanboy every game should be in 1080p 60fps if it's next-gen. There are some exceptions Like The Order 1886 that games graphics are too intense too Run in 1080p 60fps. Fanboy are blind and brainwashed robots who rubber stamp everything That there Favorite company does. I know there's a big difference in Graphics between Drive club and forza5 . But if PS4 is 50% more powerful than X1 it should be able to run Drive Club in 1080p 60fps. Drive Club should be in 1080p 60fps the should optimize The game until it does.

candy_mafia4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Totally agree with you Evilsnuggle.

Why are so many folks concerned about what Sony is doing? Y'all don't need answers and Sony don't have to answer to none of y'all. Most of y'all don't even know who these 'key' people are. We purchased a product (console) not the keys to Sony HQ, so quit acting like Sony need to inform you on internal business practices.

We're all gamers and consumers, but some of you are delusional, thinking you're Developers, Shareholders and Analysts. What a bunch of dumb###s some of you are.

PS4 is going to be FINE, that's all y'all need to know, not reasons why people exit companies. Always crying on the same old bull shiiiiii....I don't care what y'all wanna come back with, or the tons of disagrees. Grow the F'up. Sick of y'all over privileged, selfish 'lil....Why y'all ain't worried about real world problems??? My precious hobby, I'm gonna die...ya spoilt fools aww shucks! Whatever you clowns pfft!

ruefrak4097d ago

Nobody wants to think making games is a business, but it is. These studios put out one product every few years and if it's not great and doesn't sell then everybody suffers. Sony has taken too long with releasing games that don't sell well and it's time to reign it in.
Naughty Dog had too many creative directors so one had to go.
Seth Killian is a fighting games expert at a studio not making a fighting game, so he had to go.
Drive Club was a launch title that will be delayed up to a year. That is unacceptable and it's the director's responsibility, so he has to go.

Sony doesn't have cash to burn despite the success of the PS4. Failure is not an option.

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maniacmayhem4098d ago

Why would they release a statement? Wouldn't it just be all PR nonsense and telling you absolutely nothing that would be useful.

What could they say that would make you feel any different in your choice of the Sony PlayStation brand?

-Foxtrot4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Oh get off your high horse maniac...if I said ANYTHING else you would of called me a fanboy.

"What could they say that would make you feel any different in your choice of the Sony PlayStation brand?"

Oh look at that you did...very subtle. Why make this into an argument

I don't see my comments above defending them....huh.....do you because obviously you see things differently on here to me.

"Wouldn't it just be all PR nonsense and telling you absolutely nothing that would be useful."

Really because when Phil Spencer spews his PR bullcrap you seem to be the first person to eat it up.

I just want to see what they say and see how much Sony tries to worm their way out of this one.

LOGICWINS4098d ago

They don't really "need" to put out a statement. Most PS4 owners don't know who these people are. Clearly Sony is moving gaming forward not back. Whatevers happening, obviously its being done for OUR benefit.

Believe it or not, but there are people out there that are more talented than the ones you listed.

TitanUp4097d ago

Im thinking that not everyone agrees with VR

ThunderSpark4098d ago

I kind of have to agree. I love Sony and think they're great because of all their studios. So for people to leave breaks my heart a bit because they were pivotal in the playstation family and greatness.

maniacmayhem4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

"Oh get off your high horse maniac...if I said ANYTHING else you would of called me a fanboy."

Wow, aren't we sensitive. Once again on the defense and scared of any comment. What else could you have said that doesn't already paint what a Sony fanboy you are. What does that have to do with me saying that no matter what Sony would tell you it wouldn't change any view you have of the PlayStation brand.

And as others on here pointed out this guy left a while ago.

"I don't see my comments above defending them..."

JESUS, I never said you were defending them, I asked you what could they say that would change anything? It would be a marketing statement if anything. PS4 is still selling well and games are still being made for it, what else is changing?

"Really because when Phil Spencer spews his PR bullcrap you seem to be the first person to eat it up."

And you are the first person to call it PR crap and not believe anything he or others say and yet you think a statement from Sony will be any different.

"Sony tries to worm their way out of this one."

WORM their way out of what? They are not in any trouble that would concern a PlayStation fan or their fanbase. You are being beyond ridiculous.

Bruce_Wayne4098d ago

Some of the people on that list left voluntarily. That's the good thing.

candy_mafia4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

@Foxtrot 'Right Sony need to put a statement out and tell us what the f*** is going on'

It's none of yours or anyone's business who Sony hires and fires. Dude, why don't you get your 'A' off the couch and join Sony HR Dept?

Then YOU can deal with this (so-called) mess and put a statement out and get your 'A' fired!

See how you started a pointless stupid argument...You should totally be a zillionnaire, cos you know how to make something outta nothing. Get a freekin' grip Groucho.

www.wastedtalent.com

frostypants4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

This industry like many in the tech world is a revolving door of personalities. This isn't unusual. People on this site are just paying a freakishly abnormal amount of attention to internal HR moves. No, Sony isn't going to comment on developer turnover to customers because frankly it doesn't involve us. Next people on this site will be demanding to monitor the sleeping and social habits of developers, for fear that going out for dollar beer night will hamper their design efforts. Seriously, let's get a grip...

candy_mafia4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

@Frostypants

Common-ass-sense!!

Bubble for you! ...You're freekin' awesome dude :)

liquidhalos4098d ago

Yeah, so what's happening with this game now? Sony need to speak up, is it coming out or not? I wish Sony would be less translucent and more transparent

Flutterby4098d ago

The guy left in February. The game will still be coming out. Also who they hire fire has nothing to do with anyone besides Sony lol. Most of the people have left voluntarily, probably onto things they want to do.

Skate-AK4098d ago

Jaime Griesemer issues statement on his departure, says "please don’t look too hard for some sinister pattern."

andibandit4097d ago

Now thats exactly what I would say if there was a sinister plan in motion.

thehitman4098d ago

Superbot wasnt a lay off. They were hired for 1 game on a contract and it was up. Never full-time employees that story about the studio going away was way overblown to people who have no idea about the situation. Everything else is just life. People dont stay at companies forever they are in the spotlight because they are either liked/successful but people come and go all the time its nothing new. Not everytime its a bad thing so Sony doesnt need to say whats going on it is what it is. They create studios and get rid of 1s all the time.

nukeitall4098d ago

The ship is definitely not right....

In my long gaming experience (think many decades=, I have not seen this sort of mass exodus from anyone single company in the time span.

This is massive exodus from Sony! WTF is going on? These are people from key positions as well. Maybe this is Kaz Hirai's Japanese leadership....

Flutterby4098d ago

Oh look another one that can't read articles. Some have left to make there own studios , some have left to join new studios , some have just been fired. Which is a normal thing for companies, some of these people left last year and only just making the news now.

ninsigma4098d ago

@Foxtrot
Why do they need to make a statement? It's their business leave them to it...as long as the top quality games keep rolling out what has it to do with anyone other the people involved. This crap happens in all kinds of industries and no one bats an eye lid...why should this be any different??

showtimefolks4098d ago

whatever is going on at PlayStation we need to know because too many people are leaving or being let go

Kack Tretton hurts the most but Stig is right behind him

for a brand as strong as PS is right now why are all these things taking place? also what the heck is going on with Drive club?

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Metfanant4098d ago

This is what happens when high budget titles are not meeting deadlines and are not developing properly...

Nothing more than that

Pon44098d ago

What's going lmfao is Sony is history and facing bankruptcy the way things are with them and then want to bring out that morpheus crap too lmfao oh geez Samsung is buying Sony it's official

blakstarz4098d ago

I know Sony is going through some financial issue but this seems a bit disturbing.

incredibleMULK4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Something ain't good. I hope they pull through this. I really don't want to go back to gaming on xbox. I got 17 platinums too, damn it!

They are cutting all of these big salary positions. I am guessing that they are having money troubles.

No one leaves at 19 years career with a quarter a million a year salary. Its the combination of Jack Denton's departure, Santa Monica layoffs, and ip cancellation all in close proximity that has me concerned. Not to mention that big wig broad at naughty dog that got fired.

What the hell? Something ain't right, this game keeps getting pushed back and now this......Its probably going to be vaporware....or it may be crap like quantum theory.

Maybe all these first party studios are draining sony like too many ticks on a dog.

I know Japan has the highest corporate tax in the world and us is second highest and look how shitty we are doing. That can't be helping sony.

LexHazard794098d ago

Thank you....I was thinking same thing. What is Sony not telling us?! Say what you will people but these are key figures!

otherZinc4098d ago

@-Foxtrot,

What a post! Way to not have your head in the sand & demand more, I respect that. You are to be commended.

hollabox4097d ago

Another one bites the dust!

TitanUp4097d ago

imo i dont believe they all agree with the VR stuff the time these rumors started is also the same time people started leaving.

joeorc4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

@Foxtrot

Hmm, where were you when i posed this?

"The Change up over @ Microsoft and why Hard core gamer's may be worried"

http://forums.n4g.com/The-C...

You say "If it was Microsoft" well?
The people Leaving @ Sony is nothing like what happened @ Microsoft, but yet you demand a statement from Sony? How about Microsoft, its one thing to loose people here and there, but not the entire founding father's Team! where was you asking this very Question about the freaking Entire Founding Father's team that developed the Platform that is xbox? The entire Team of 13+ CEO's all left and are gone now from Microsoft.

An the direction of xbox changed or is it the same?

the fact you are trying to make a claim this is some "big , Huge , Giant " Problem for Sony and Not Microsoft shows that hint of Bias showing through.

Yes it would be one thing is more than 10 big CEO's that helped develop the playstation platform are all gone, but that is not the freaking case.

Unlike Xbox the Majority of founding father's of"Playstation" platform CEO's are still there at Sony the one's in charge hell Kaz is the current CEO of Sony as a whole. People move on and change jobs and position's all the Time, it really does not mean much since even with all 13 of the CEO's that founded the xbox project all left, the xbox platform is very much alive and doing great, yes the direction has indeed changed some, but still the xbox as a platform is here to stay.

For One Sony's playstation is a private held LLC there is no public buy in for stock, so its already split from Sony as a single entity but its stock is not for buy in outside of Sony! do people not get this?.

That is exactly why Sony told Hedge fund Dan Loeb that the entertainment arm was not for sale.

So as i have stated many times before playstation may change direction, may have new CEO's in charge of new project's and may indeed grow or shrink, but as the fact of the matter Sony's playstation as a LLC is not for public IPO! and for that to change a entire change in the board of directors and the current prez Kaz would have to step downand the new board and prez would have to bring it to a vote. for playstation to go public as an IPO.

which in general sense, means "since its mainly' japanese ran and completely 100% owned, the very fact that for 40 d@mn straight yeas in a row no japanese company the size of Sony has had a Hostile Take over Happen shows that its not anywhere near the same as the west.

Like i stated before the small number of people leaving and some not even in real big leadership positions for playstation leaving is nothing like what happened to Microsoft's xbox, but did that really effect Xbox as a platform? not really so its even less an effect on Sony's playstation!

Hell Sony's reinvested billion's now right back into playstation, a few CEO's leaving is bound to happen here and there.

Gamer19824097d ago

I'm thinking there all waiting for best possible time to get out to form a new studio..

goldwyncq4097d ago

With all these names I could already fill a bingo card.

Seraphim4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

you're making a big deal out of nothing. People leave major corporations all the time. Be it for a better position elsewhere, to chase their dream, because they feel they've accomplished all they can or what they set out to do, etc, etc. Whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. There's still infinite amounts of talent working at Sony on all kinds of projects. Perhaps some of these moves are good not only for each individual who left but to the franchises and work studios are or will be doing. Also as pointed out. let's not forget that between projects layoffs are common. Once a new project get's green lit they'll bring in more talent when needed. No need to keep all the part time help around during down time. That's wasted expenses.

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Blastoise4098d ago

Some worrying thing's going on behind the scenes at Sony. Far too many people are leaving for it to just be a coincidence, what's weirder is the PS4 is doing really well so games like this have a better chance of being a success than they ever did on PS3.

Oh well, I wish this dude all the best and hope Driveclub is awesome. Feels like this game has been a long time coming

Dark114098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

I agree this has to be serious and can no longer be downplayed
i wonder if ND is next.

@ABeastNamedTariq

no one is safe with sony .. who would have thought that SSM will get hit by layoffs? hell even their new IP was ready for E3 but sony canceled the game

ABeastNamedTariq4098d ago

You keep saying variations of "I wonder if ND is next".

I'm squinting my eyes at you. Enough with the funny business.

Bruce_Wayne4098d ago

Sony's best studio is ND hands down. I don't think Naughty Dog will be affected. I think that ND is so highly regarded, that they can make any decisions regarding their studio.

LexHazard794098d ago

@Batman,

Didnt ND lose Amy Hennig? ND is not immune of anything going on at Sony. Seems everyone is on notice!

-Foxtrot4098d ago

" PS4 is doing really well so games like this have a better chance of being a success than they ever did on PS3. "

This is a crazy theory of mine but I was wondering because the PS4 is doing better then the PS3 and their gaming division is the most profitable they are cutting back people on the gaming division to try and save their other ones which aren't doing so well....like their TV ranges, Laptops, Music etc

I know they want to have a grip on electrical market but with it changing so much over the years as technology has surged forward they are going to have to let go of them eventually if they can't turn a profit on them. Other companies can do better laptops and better TV's now, I know they want to compete as a business but what's the point of losing money when they could be saving it and then investing it in their most profitable division...the Playstation, since they finally have a better hold on the market now with the PS4's great launch.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4098d ago

This is my theory, the current flow of things, their gaming division is pretty much self-sufficient at this point, so they're downsizing to make up costs in other divisions.

XboxFun4098d ago

Bu bu bu bu bu sony's gaming division is doing so well, their other departments would never hurt the playstation brand.

it is so good to see the sony fanboys n4g analyst scramble to make sense of what is going on. Some stay quiet because of foot in mouth syndrome as others like fox here DEMAND that sony address them.

didnt you say something about MS PR in another article? Oh nooooo, im twisting his comments!!

-Foxtrot4098d ago

So let me get this straight XboxFun

User says something good about a company = Fanboy

User criticize something about company = Still a Fanboy

Your logic is hilarious, no one can really win with you can they.

But no go ahead and post off topic, immature comments, twisting peoples words because for some strange reason you get a kick out of all this. Not like you have any other bubbles to loose.

bjmartynhak4098d ago

My theory is worse.

PS4 is doing well. So Sony does not need to spend a lot on games. Leave just the most popular franchises/devs and call the exclusive DLCs/Marketing deals: Watch Dogs, AC, Thief, Destiny...

I guess I prefer Sony trying to catch up with MS...

So you are completly right, Sony need to put things straight with gamers before even fanboys like me start thinking the worse.

Bruce_Wayne4098d ago

Isn't Sony's fiscal year almost over? I think that since they're starting a new one, and with the PS4 being ultra successful, they're laying off people to invest in PS Vita! Imagine that. A new start for the Vita to compliment the PS4's success.

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danny8184098d ago

you do know that sony ia making very little money on every ps4 that is sold right?! just because they are selling a lot doesn't mean that sony is back on track to becoming profitable. Maybe they are leaving before sony files for bk

LexHazard794097d ago

I'll just say this. I have a feeling that at $399 Sony is losing money or selling at cost(which is unlikely)! Thats the reason for the lay offs and key figures with big salaries leaving!

@fox trot,

If Sony gaming division is best thing going for it, why make cuts there for failures of their other divisions(tv, music, etc). I would be making changes in those other divisions not my best one!

rainslacker4098d ago

My theory is that people leave one company and go to others all the time. Staying at one company in the game industry for more than a couple years is actually rather rare. These people being reported on are the upper echelon on the industry. They get offers all the time to go do their own thing, or they just want to do something different. Maybe many just waited it out until things were set to go.

Now, here's the kicker. Lately it seems that every change in any kind of management or direction position gets reported on a lot more than they used to, so it just seems like more people are moving around. Before a year or two ago, most people would probably never have heard of half the people leaving, as those kinds of reports were saved for CEO status people.

I may be wrong of course, but someone above listed about 5 people that left in recent months. No one knows the reason why. The only one that seemed dubious was Amy Henning due to the fact that UC4 was in production. All others just seemed to be that their projects were finished, or some milestone had been met, which is typically when people do change jobs.

The only thing that may be affecting all these changes though is the current restructuring of a lot of Sony studios. It is quite possible that they are affecting these people's work environments. However, as professional courtesy, these kinds of things are rarely ever mentioned in a press release, and doing so just puts a black mark on many people's resume's, as the industry itself is rather secretive.

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Crossbones4098d ago

Oh God!!! Everybody Is Leaving!!!!

SourShoes4098d ago

I'm starting to worry that we will not see this beautiful racing game until autumn. Don't piss off Sony with delays or you'll soon be an indie startup.

Dark114098d ago

Sony just can't catch a break .. what is going on with their first party studios.

Mr-Dude4098d ago

You blow it all out off proportions... like nearly all your comments

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Classic PS4 Racer DriveClub Is Now a Decade Old

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DriveClub, the legendary PS4 racer from shuttered Runcorn studio Evolution, has such an interesting story.

Originally announced alongside the PS4, the game had been intended as a launch title – we even played it in a big London church Sony had rented to showcase the new system prior to its release.

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darthv72248d ago

Evolution was done dirty... DC is still the most stunning visual game of its generation. They certainly deserved better in the end.

VenomUK247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

DriveClub was pretty and I loved the experience of driving in the rain, it was immersive. I had some good races with people from an old forum, but at times I found it to be a bit boring. MotorStorm was such a fun game to play and I loved the controls - it would make sense to remaster that.

DarXyde247d ago

I'd give the visual showcase award of the last generation to The Order: 1886. That game was immaculate.

Uncharted 4 was also absolutely insane, and perhaps manages to use the PS4's power in extremely clever ways.

jznrpg247d ago

It didn’t get good reviews unfortunately

obidanshinobi247d ago

Cause the game was mediocre at best, and surpassed in pretty much every area by Forza Horizon 2.

IRetrouk247d ago

Apart from visuals, driving model, weather effects, only thing forza had was an open world...

Inverno247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

It's multiplayer component was the only thing struggling at launch but the game was still perfectly playable offline. Done dirty is an understatement because how many games after came out with broken online components that got a pass? Now games with an SP and MP get separate reviews for SP and MP smh! SONY shut them down as if Evo had been bleeding money instead of putting out great games. Their fate was undeserved and they were the targets of a media smear campaign due to that one trailer.

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Knushwood Butt247d ago

Loved it.
Now here's a game that would benefit from a remaster.
4K, 60 FPS
I'd buy it.

ravens52247d ago

Might have to fire it up. Got it day 1, it was great to me.

outsider1624247d ago

See? Another reason why physical is important. Going all digital will have you miss out games like this.

Gabrielmpf247d ago

I loved tackling the leaderboards. It's a shame they couldn't even keep them.

Yi-Long247d ago

Brilliant game, I really miss it, and it deserved so much better than what Sony did to it.
Most important reason I liked it; It was FUN. That’s it. The actual gameplay,throwing a car around corners, the challenging AI opponents, the entertaining tracks which were peak-design, etc etc, it was above all just FUN to play.

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv72518d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut85518d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio518d ago (Edited 518d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack518d ago (Edited 518d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander1972518d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff2183517d ago (Edited 517d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim518d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno517d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff2183517d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger518d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai518d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC518d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Driveclub - Brutal Backlog

Driveclub was a headline game at the start of the PS4’s life. A fabulous game – eventually - but what now, with the servers turned off? Is it worth your time? JDR starts its engines in today’s Brutal Backlog.

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Abear211199d ago

Bikes expansion might be one of the most underrated games of last gen. Incredible driver and bike animations + DC weather is craze.