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'Wii U Is A Clumsy, Awkward Device' Says Molyneux

NowGamer: "Godus developer Peter Molyneux says that his game could come to PS Vita or Steam Box but that PS4, Xbox One and the 'clumsy' Wii U may not work."

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TheLyonKing4142d ago

Got to agree with him on this. The second screen is a forced gimmick and while I have noted some developers utilizing it well, it really is only beneficial to a very small %.

Also the hardware is really below par when sized up to the other consoles. Its a ninento console for nintendo games, nothing more and nothing less.

Neonridr4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

And there is nothing wrong with a Nintendo console for Nintendo games. In this day and age, owning 2 consoles is becoming more and more commonplace. I have a PS4 for the heavy hitters that Sony brings along with any 3rd party games that don't grace the Wii U (so basically most of them, :P) and I own a Wii U for all the 1st party Nintendo games and the odd 3rd party game that I would prefer to play on the Wii U.

Having the 2nd screen isn't a gimmick. If you had a PS4 with remote play you would understand the benefit of the Wii U gamepad. Being a husband and father, getting command of the TV can be tough at times, so the Off Screen play makes it that much easier for me to play my games. I have come really close to purchasing a Vita simply for the fact of using the Remote Play functionality.

Just because it isn't for you doesn't mean that it isn't appealing to other people. And that can included non-Nintendo gamers too.

bunfighterii4142d ago

I'm in the same boat - PS4 and Wii U are what I've gone with this gen.

die_fiend4142d ago

But I used to love nintendo but I don't particularly want a console that is on par with the xbox 360 in terms of power in this day and age. If nintendo cut the cord on Wii U and bring out a powerful machine, I'd buy it without a second thought. But unfortunately they're too unresponsive. They're busy making a smash bros game (which always takes them years cos it's so good) for a console that is dying!

Neonridr4142d ago

@die_fiend - the Wii U is more powerful than the 360 or PS3. Maybe not by a lot, but it's GPU can run laps around what the 360 and PS3 can put out. It's only because most developers are too lazy to optimize their game for the Wii U. The 360 and PS3 were very CPU oriented, whereas the Wii U is GPU oriented (much like the PS4 and XB1). So you can't just dump 360 code to the Wii U and expect it to perform well, the CPU cores aren't as fast clock speed wise, so more calculations need to be offset to the GPGPU which can handle extra calculations to free up the load on the CPU's.

I love how games like TLOU and GTA V were amazing games and they only came out like 6 months ago. Suddenly now those games aren't good enough anymore. The Wii U can easily do games like GTA V and TLOU and better, so what is so wrong with that as a secondary console? Do you need 4K resolution for all your games?

11eleven114142d ago

The WiiU is not clumsy. It actually is pretty fast and very manageable.'Course people that don't own it wouldn't know, and that is a marketing problem. The gamepad is however a gamepad and not a tablet touchscreen so it is not ment for the type of games the gentleman from the article makes. That's the same marketing problem. People still slash the WiiU for not understanding what it is.

mcstorm4142d ago

@Neonridr I agree with you. I am a WiiU and Xbox One owner and I often use the WiiU pad for playing games on sat after noon when soccer Saturday is on TV or use the snap tv on the xbox one so I can keep up to day on all the scores or if something like boxing is on and im waiting for the main fight we will use snap or Wiiu game pad to kill time but still have the under cards on.

I have been very impressed with the Wiiu and most of the games I own for it are Nintendo IP's. Pikmin 3, Windwaker, Mario 3D world DK, Wii Party U and more have been a joy to play.

Dunban674142d ago

The problem I have is Nintendo used 3rd party games as a big selling point for the Wi U before the launch- They sold that aspect very hard, then after Dec 2012, they did nothing to save 3rd party support- the Wi U will probable go down as having the least 3rd party support of any Nintendo console by the end of its lifespan even though Iwata and Co said the opposite- but I have learned neither of them nor any Nintendo exec speaking publicly can be trusted

ChickeyCantor4142d ago

"But unfortunately they're too unresponsive."

I don't think you understand how business works, mate.

UltimateMaster4141d ago

EA: Peter Molyneux: Nintendo is a great platform

Makes no games for it. Clumsy Comments.

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Crazay4142d ago

I was super jacked about the prospect of that 2nd screen but I find that I use it more for games when my wife is watching TV. So then I thought it might be nice to be able to play those games remotely on the screen in other rooms of the house but the range is so crappy I can't even take it into my bedroom which is DIRECTLY behind my living room.

Neonridr4142d ago

That sucks. I can take mine down a whole floor and to the opposite end of the house and it works. I can play it in the bathroom too, bonus.

Shame that you can't get that far away though. Maybe your walls are too dense which kills the signal.

It's nice that the Vita uses WiFi to connect to the PS4 and it will be interesting to see if Nintendo explores that in the future with a possible Gamepad+ or something. Only problem with using the WiFi is latency becomes an issue.

Crazay4142d ago

@Neon - HAHAH. The bathroom is the first place I tried to get the gaming done. =P

such a guy thing eh? hahaha

Neonridr4142d ago

of course the only crutch to bringing the gamepad with you to the bathroom is you forget why you were there in the first place and then before you know it you've been sitting on the toilet for 30 mins, lol.

windblowsagain4142d ago

In a perfect world.

SONY make the hardware/ first party
MS make the OS/third party
Ninty supply just their own games.

InTheLab4142d ago

OS and 3rd party ? No thanks

wonderfulmonkeyman4142d ago

That's BS, considering the growing offerings from indies and the small yet decent amount of properly done third party exclusives.

If all you're looking at is Nintendo games on a Nintendo system, then these days, that's a sign that you're doing it wrong. There's plenty on offer for the system, and the game pad is a controller that is being under-utilized, but is by no means a useless gimmick.
That's hater talk.

GordonKnight4142d ago

I agree

Everyone that says the gamepad is gimmick has never use it in their own home.

IMO the gamepad is awesome for RPGs. I'm playing Earthbound on it now.

Magicite4142d ago

Ive never owned Nintendo console, yet somehow I would feel insulted by what Molyneux said.

BattleN4142d ago

Molyneux is not a very good game developer. He's just bitter the Gamepad is better than all his games combined!

LOL_WUT4142d ago

Why? It's the truth it just wasn't ready, at launch they forced a 5GB update everything was slow and clumsy Nintendo tried to get a head start but backfired when they didn't see the results they wanted ;)

Fanboyssuck274142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

I agree, Just like you get a Sony console for 3rd party only as they just can't make good quality first party games that last the test of time, Sony is always left behind when it comes to software.

GordonKnight4142d ago

But their exclusives are some of the best though.

lilbroRx4142d ago

Better than the "look, we have more specs" gimmick Sony has been constanstly going with.

At least Nintendo is original.

krazykombatant4142d ago

LOL second screen has the potential to be extremely beneficial as even MS has introduced smart glass and Sony the PS4 and Vita mix. Hell many people on PC have more than 1 monitor.

Was the hardware put into the console too poor, yes. It will be another gamecube but that isn't a bad thing.

Molyneux shouuld focus on making a good game not rehashed garbage.

allgamespc20124142d ago

Except its not. its more powerful than a 360 and ps3 ad thats already been proven many times, only ignorant people will say otherwise. the graphics that nintendo accomplishes on their first party games are astonishing and at 60 fps something 360 and ps3 would not be able to do at all.

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G20WLY4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

Peter Molyneux is possibly the most full-of-crap developer in the industry today.

He showed promise many years ago, but his prime is long gone and all that remains is a sad shadow of the former man.

Fable 3 was the final straw; quite why anyone would believe anything this guy says - or respect his opinion, on this or anything else - is beyond me.

Gazondaily4142d ago

At least Cliffy B delivers

Baka-akaB4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

Molyneux did far more than showing promise . And his delivery rates is 10x above Cliffy . Molyneux created a genre of gaming . Very few can claim that

he was just past his prime and lost himself after Black and White . And even then , one can't pretend he delivered bad games , some of us just expected better .

Meanwhile , while obviously a legend now too , i still remember Unreal Tournament 3 , and particularly its horrible and ill conceived sp campaign , trying to reciprocate Gears of war's success . Or the mediocre gears 2 mp (at first) .

die_fiend4142d ago

Delivers what? GOW 2 was a car crash multiplayer-wise. Fable 2 came out at the same time and was a quality game.

You ever heard of Populous? Molyneux made some of gaming's greatest titles back in the day. Cliffy B made Gears of War lol. About obese marines with chainsaw guns. The only thing he 'delivered' is a distinct lack of charm

Baka-akaB4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

people can disagree all they want . Molyneux , brought Populous , PowermOnger , Magic Carpet , Theme Park , Dungeon keeper , Black and White to the pantheon of gaming . And of course Fable If you guys are too young to remember or know those , it's another matter

Cliffy B is known for jazz jackrabbit , Unreal and Gears of war . All pretty good if not excellent games , but mostly just emblematic ips of their generations .

XboxFun4142d ago

You heard of David Cage?

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CrowbaitBob4142d ago

I actually felt a little embarrased for the Fable crew the first time I saw Fable 3 was being released on PC.

DanManDantheMan4142d ago (Edited 4142d ago )

If by that he means there are not many games that really show off the point of the GamePad, I can agree.

That being said, it's not a terrible idea. Once it gets that one game that makes people say "Aha!", it'll be flying off shelves.

Rockefellow4142d ago

Molyneux is a clumsy, awkward developer.

I think he's just a bit upset that even the Wii U, in its glorious blaze of failure it's enduring right now, still has ten times more good games than he's ever been able to squeeze out of that fat head of his.

Ck1x4142d ago

This guy is reaching hard on his statement, because while I do agree that Nintendo is doing a very poor job of showcasing what makes the controller so unique (asymetrical gameplay). The gamepad is more comfortable and useable in games such as RPG's, Adventure and Racing games than it seems that it might be, being so large of a controller. And I wish we could take a break with trashing the WiiU for not being at the same level hardware wise as PS4 and XbOne. Because both of those systems aren't blazing out every next-gen game with amazing resolutions and framerates at the moment.

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Peter Molyneux recalls how Project Milo, the Kinect game with revolutionary promise, died a death

Vapourware can end up being the stuff of legend, like Rockstar's Agent, Star Wars 1313, or StarCraft: Ghost. Without ever seeing the light of day, these games never risked the possibility of being played and forgotten, and instead live on forever as the subjects of lengthy YouTube essays.

Still, Molyneux's most notable lost game (or tech demo, depending on who you asked at the time) was arguably Project Milo.

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darthv7238d ago

I can see the potential of the kinect hardware... its rather impressive tech, but it was just not meant to be for gaming. If anything, MS had a huge missed opportunity to have used it for the AR/VR projects.

S2Killinit37d ago

Missed opportunity? They lied. It was the biggest lie in gaming history.

merlox37d ago

You can use the Kinect as an SLS camera for paranormal investigations. So it wasn’t a complete failure.

Cacabunga36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Remember Star Wars Kinect announcement? Biggest laughable acting seen

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rlow136d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Do you mean about project Milo?

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-Foxtrot38d ago

It was built on lies Peter...you know this.

isarai38d ago

Bro that thing NEVER existed, what we got was a concept video

Knushwood Butt37d ago

"Unfortunately, as we were developing Milo, so the Kinect device was being developed. And they realised that the device that Alex Kipman first showed off would cost $5,000 for consumers to buy.

"So they cost-reduced that device down to such a point, where the field-of-view...I think it was a minuscule field-of-view. In other words, it could only just see what's straight in front of you."

Hmm, exactly what tech was in it, that was cut, affected the development? It was only ever interpreting visual and audio inputs right? The xbox was processing those inputs.

Nor do I see how the field of view thing is relevant to the discussion.

isarai37d ago

Exactly! Tf kinda BS statement was that? i don't really see how fov is relevant at all, since when do you move all around a room while talking/interacting to someone?

Amplitude37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

This is entirely untrue. There was never a 5000 dollar Kinect prototype that could somehow use a wider field of view to scan and import generated in-game items and advance AI by over a decade. Anybody that fell for this was a stupid moron child, myself included. Anybody that falls for this lie now is a stupid moron child who doesn't realize that these people *only* know how to lie.

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Is It Time To Trust Peter Molyneux Again?

Masters of Albion is already promising, but can we trust Peter Molyneux to not let us down again?

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OtterX312d ago

I came here to say that I don't want to hear any grand standing or over promises, and I was not left disappointed when I read: "Molyneux has “kept very quiet” about the project as he wanted to “let the game speak for itself”.

Perfect.

Cacabunga311d ago

Milo and Kate 😆
Stellar lie

DivineHand125311d ago

Project Milo could not have been released even if it existed. Why would a grown man want to simulate talking to young kids?

Profchaos312d ago

No he hasn't done anything to earn it if he actually delivers a fun competent game that's different

DiRtY311d ago

Come on, you can hate him for overpromising, but he made some fun games.
Fable I and II were awesome, as was theme park or Dungeon Keeper.

OldDuffer311d ago

Unfortunately its the haters who will always set the agenda on any such discussion. Peter is a visionary who delivered some exceptional games and invented genres. I consider myself blessed to have worked at Bullfrog and seen such creativity up close. The fact he over promissed on several projects later in his career is hardly an issue limited to just him, and certainly does not undo the huge legacy he has.
I was impressed by the showing at the event, and Im pleased to see he's learnt to shutup and just deliver a game. Maybe one two people can let go of the hate if he delivers on this project, but I doubt it - people love to hate.

CrimsonIdol310d ago

Amen. I respect Peter as a dreamer of interesting and grand ideas. Those who remember the golden years of Bullfrog knows how interesting their games were (and still remain) and the glorious feel of manipulating all the little simulation mechanics. If you understand many of his promises were "wouldn't it be cool if" hypotheticals that were strived for but ultimately not achieved (ie the realities of game dev) it makes far more sense than him being deliberately misleading.

Psychonaut85312d ago

No. Too many other developers who HAVEN’T scammed people and lied to our face for two decades. Don’t have time to listen to this dude anymore. If it’s good, good for those people that like that type of game. I still won’t ever trust him.

Plague-Doctor27312d ago

One of the dumbest questions I've ever heard. Guy hasn't told the truth in over 20 years

DodoDojo311d ago

Exactly, the dude likes to suck his own D and talk everything up.

Psychonaut85308d ago

I’m curious who the dislikes are on our comments. Either people old enough to have some deeeeeeep love for Black and White and Populous, or young enough to not know what a massive huckster Molyneux is. He’s the M.Night Shyamalan of game directors. Did a couple good things early on and somehow has managed to ride that for decades.

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Peter Molyneux's new game is set in Fable's Albion

Project currently codenamed MOAT.

JusttJD0099624d ago

M.O.A.T

Misleader of all time?

jznrpg624d ago (Edited 624d ago )

It’s between him and Phil. I’d vote Phil

Obscure_Observer624d ago

"It’s between him and Phil. I’d vote Phil"

If Phil were the man that made my life miserable, I would vote for him as well.

Regarding the topic, it could be both Peter and Phil working together.

M.O.A.T takes place in Albion, so it´s possible that Pete is working on new partnership with Xbox, which imo, is nothing but great news!

GhostScholar624d ago

What exactly has Phil mislead about? I can’t wait to hear the verbal diarrhea you come with.

Cacabunga623d ago

Still waiting for Milo and Kate.. most lmao game OAT

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Becuzisaid624d ago

Wait.

His name is still used as a selling point for new games? Seriously?

jznrpg624d ago

If anyone knows his name you have to be extremely skeptical that what he delivers will be anything like what he says it would be and that’s best case scenario.

RaiderNation624d ago

He's like the "Tom Clancy" of video games.

InUrFoxHole624d ago

Lol what the hell man?!?!?

ZycoFox624d ago

I remember Black & White (PC) but other than that I can only think of Fable, B&W was a pretty cool game tho at the time.

sagapo624d ago

Populous was another one designed by Peter, released before B&W, godlike game as well, pretty good too.

Giblet_Head624d ago

I quite liked Magic Carpet growing up.

Obscure_Observer624d ago (Edited 624d ago )

"His name is still used as a selling point for new games? Seriously?"

The guy is a gaming legend for gamers who actually knows and played his games, like Dungeon Keeper, Populous, Black & White and Fable for example.

Becuzisaid624d ago

I'm certain that most who actually know who he is would contest your use of legend. He's the living, human embodiment of false advertising.

Obscure_Observer624d ago

@Becuzisaid

There´s an abyss between false advertisement and bad games.

Most gamers will get excited for games from great gaming creators rather than focus on their exaggerated promises.

Kojima described his Xbox exclusive game as "very unusual like no one has ever experienced before, leveraging the cloud." He said all publishers he presented the project, called him mad and rejected his game but Microsoft, because it´s too crazy.

Is Kojima exaggerating? Obviously. It´s gonna be a bad game? Hardly.

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TheColbertinator624d ago

Imagine a game where Peter Molyneux presents an extraordinary set of ideas that players will enjoy for years to come. Now imagine that this particular game will come out because it will never exist.

Profchaos624d ago

Does Milo live under a bridge there

shinoff2183624d ago

Captain overseller is returning. Ain't heard his name in years.

shinoff2183623d ago

Peter was overselling games way way before cdprojectred, and bethesada

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