Respawn Explain How Bots Work In Titanfall And Why They Exist

Respawn have provided a little more insight into exactly what purpose the AI-controlled bots in Titanfall serve, and explain the differences between them.

[mochachino]

What about all that PR BS they were spewing about the power of the cloud being necessary for the AI?

Not saying anything about that anymore are they? I hate when companies flat out lie to me.

[TrueJerseyDevil]

They all lie though

[PeaSFor]

its for farming points, nothing more nothing less. the game is noob friendly so they have to accomodate some peoples.

[Godmars290]

"They all lie though"

More to the point that companies need to be called and held accountable for doing it.

[Kingthrash360]

yeah but not as openly to where it seems like they think we are too stupid to notice...it's why there is no xb1 sitting next to my ps4/ps3/360/wii/3ds/vita/gb/ne s/snes/gc/64/dc/saturn/ps2/ps1 systems collections. not to say none of them have lied but none of them has lied to the point that i feel like they think im dumb.

[Salooh]

I don't see the point of calculating AI in the cloud , just put the easy AI from any campaign game or co-op game to the multiplayer and you will get the same result. It's not like titanfall demand a lot of power from the X1 or PC to use the cloud for saving power.

[n4rc]

What do you mean you don't see why?

Where are they supposed to come from on a dedicated server? Pick a random player to host them?

"Cloud" AI is the only way they exist.

[MysticStrummer]

"I don't see the point of calculating AI in the cloud"

Not exactly a ringing endorsement for the process is it? I wonder if part of their exclusivity deal was to set it up that way and try to make the cloud seem necessary. The result seems to be AI from two generations ago at least.

"Cloud AI is the only way they exist."

I hope you're either joking or just started gaming with this new console generation and don't know any better...

[nukeitall]

@n4rc:

if you were to play this game on PS4 then yes, it would be player hosted just like KZ: Shadowfall is essentially P2P with proxy servers.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

For those not understanding why its 100% important that the AI is hosted in the cloud and not on a player hosted console its rather simple. Hosting the AI off the dedicated servers means everyone sees the same thing from the AI and there is no chance for some kind of "host advantage" involving AI of not only the on the ground grunts but also of the AI that takes over when you leave your Titan and have it follow or guard.

[malokevi]

http://www.respawn.com/news...

^^ was written months ago by Respawn in an attempt to explain why the cloud is important to their vision. Nowhere does it emphasize AI. It's a perfectly reasonable writeup about the practical applications for the Azure cloud.

People can complain about bots all day, but it changes nothing. The game is crazy fun, and the bots add to the fun rather than take away from it. I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Kribwalker]

Lol @kingthrash

PS3 was one of the worst ever for lieing to consumers, but it found a place next to your other honest companies

Cross game chat, all games will be 1080p, those fake Killzone videos and my favorite

"Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi has claimed that the PlayStation 3 will be capable of running games at an unprecedented 120 frames per second"

[Rainstorm81]

Only noobs want to play with bots/dumb AI in a competitive MP game......& only fanboys pretend like its a good decision

I never once played Gears and anyone was happy that a bot was on our team....and Gears bots look more advanced than Titanfall's judging by difficulty

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

Sony doesn't lie! Sony never lies! They are here for us.. the gamer! They are the best. They don't want our money, they just want us to have the greatest time ever playing on a video game console.

[Godmars290]

@miDnIghtEr20C:
Really hope you wasted your one bubble to be sarcastic...

[WolfLeBlack]

It's still being processed in the Cloud, according to Respawn. But they don't seem to be too bothered about talking about it now.

Back in the January they corrected an article with this Tweet:

"This article is wrong, AI is processed in the cloud. I think you misunderstood."

The article was then corrected

Article:
http://attackofthefanboy.co...

[venom06]

this whole "BOTS" thing is REALLY stupid and just shows how much training wheels are attached to the game.. OF COURSE people are gonna be over-hyped about this game cause it's so easy a brain-dead monkey can play and be good (kinda like most CoD games).. if other games like Battlefield, Halo, Gears or CS:GO had dumb bots, useless bots running around, those games would get SLAUGHTERED in the press because of them....

[BG11579]

What a BS explanation about why bots are there...
They are just needed because of the different size of the titans and the soldiers.
The titans are 7 to 10 times bigger than the soldier. So the maps where design big enough to permit to have 12 titans at the same time without being on top of each other. The problem lies when there are no titans at all in the map. The map is 7 to 10 times bigger than it should it be. Making it to big for the soldier. This makes the map empty.
They couldn't had more players because they would have to increase the size of the map, because more titans. So they put in there bots...

[Pandamobile]

All the AI in the game is calculated in the cloud (which is just the marketing term for "we do it all server-side".

How is that a lie?

[frostypants]

Agreed. Not really a lie at all...the only ridiculous part of it all is people pretending it's innovative.

[mhunterjr]

The bots aren't the only AI. The titans can be utilized in AI mode as well. From a technical standpoint, it wouldn't be logical to have those AI processes being handled by a p2p host. Whichever user ended up being the host would have a crap ton of processes being handled on his unit, and any dips in his performance would effect the the behavior of all 11 other peoples titans... It would make for an uneven/unfair experience.

Not to mention the amount of CPU that would need to be reserved for host duties... That would make 60fps far less likely ...

[rdgneoz3]

Seeing as it's 792p, being calculated client side would probably drop it to 30 fps and 720p.

[nukeitall]

@rd:

why would you want it client side anyhow?

Heard of lag anyone? P2P multiplayer is so last gen, and if you want that stick to the PS4. You can get 1080p at 60fps and one awesome laggy experience there.

Heck, one person with a lag switch is enough to make your online experience one frustrating match!

I will take 720p with dedicated servers and cloud any day.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@nukeitail nailed it... hosted servers would give host advantage on any and all AI including Titan AI. On top of that as stated the potential for lag switches would just ruin the experience.

[RexLex]

Makes sense that it is probably being calculated on the cloud,.. that is why it takes them 4-5 seconds to react to you,..

Ai is absolute joke.

[NoLongerHereCBA]

Game would be much to slow if you had to be careful for all the AI shooting at you. Wall running would much quicker become the death of you which would make the gameplay more BF/CSS in terms of speed and that is not what Titanfall is all about.

But that's just my take on it. I do agree that they seem really dumb. But I take them as canon fodder just as in LoL etc.

[KarrBOMB]

Honestly, it's close to the worst AI I've seen. I watched the Beta play on youtube and the guy playing, just ran around snapping AI players necks, literally like 5-10 at a time while other bots just stared or could do nothing but wait to be next.

[Pandamobile]

You guys realize the AI is supposed to be dumb, right?

They're minions, not players. Their job is to be cannon fodder and pose a small threat to experienced players.

[mhunterjr]

Then Explain why the Titan AI is so good... The behavior of the grunts is obviously a design choice. If folks were getting killed by bots while fighting another player, THAT would be something to complain about...

[Volkama]

That's true Mhunterjr, I've never even had to think about what my AI titan is doing and that's a testament to the AI working well.

I find in many cases people confuse "good AI" with "difficult to beat". They could give those grunts 100% accuracy, 100% LoS perception, remove every facet of the AI routine besides "shoot nearest hostile target in LoS!" and they would be very difficult to beat. But they wouldn't be "good AI".

[nohopeinc]

They said the exact opposite of what you claim they said. They stated the cloud did nothing for the AI, the AI did not learn at all in anyway.

[curtis92]

See, it's when devs have to keep coming out and explaining their rationale for things that you have to wonder if it was a good decision. I've played the beta and IMO, I'd rather it was all pvp with less emphasis on titans.

Also for those asking, the cloud stuff (I think we can all agree at this point) is just PR spin for "oops, we have weak hardware".

Titanfall being identical on 360 & xb1 prove this, among many other examples.

[darkequitus]

Less emphasis on titans would no longer make it titan fall. Instead just another frag fest

[mediate-this]

You played tf on 360? So you know its identical to x1, quit spewing garbage.

[Ace Killa 08]

Well... that just ... I'm shock that they added bots for noob friendly people. Hell CS had bots that were challenging yet not impossible. I don't agree with the bots being dumbdown and for racking up points. To me it just to fill in the gap that they are not able to fill with real players.

As long as the bots kills do not go into the score to win the match, if it does than that's even more noob friendly.

[Salooh]

'' They will be like ‘oh, there’s a Pilot coming through.’ ‘I don’t see what the big deal about Pilots is anyway.’ ''

Perfect excuse for dumb AI lol.

These ideas to make games easier for beginners are the reason why we get worst games. Easier games , less content to make it less complicated , no challenge ..etc

[pompombrum]

Lol I've never known a game to get so much hate over so very few features. Once you play it enough, it makes perfect sense to have the ai there. Respawn have created these fairly large maps that are like giant parkour playgrounds for us to have fun in..seeing as the majority of the action is taken place on high ground, the maps would feel barren without the ai. You can't replace that with more people as you'd just have people flying all over the place with a ground that was completely void of life.

All respawn needs to do is tweak the scoring system for attrition so that farming ai doesn't score you so many points and we'll be all set.

[jmc8888]

The maps aren't large. Compared to CoD maps, yes. Compared to Battlefield they are tiny.

You can run from say hardpoint to hardpoint in about 10 seconds or so. Maybe 15. Probably across the whole map in 40-50 seconds. That's not a big map.

I disagree with most action is on the high ground. There isn't really any high ground. I kept hearing about the vertical nature of the game, but it simply in the beta maps isn't there.

Oh sure they have 2-3 story buildings you can run around in or jump on top of, but that's not vertical.

Try some of the maps in Hawken, there you see actual maps that have a very vertical nature. I actually thought Titanfall was supposed to be even more so, but in reality from what is in the beta, there is none.

It wouldn't feel barren without the AI. No more so then any other FPS with decent sized maps. Which of course could be helped out more with additional human players.

6v6 too much, then how about 8v8 or 10v10.

The frustrating part of bots is that they get in the way. You start shooting at them and then a human player sees you. So they just end up distracting you and getting you killed half the time.

I don't see the point of the bots at all. At first I was thinking, ok you need to kill bots to get a Titanfall, but really you don't even need to do that.

Killing bots only gets the timer to count down
faster.

So really there isn't even a valid reason for bots. It just gets making a Titan a little faster and not worth the hassle.

I played more today, and a few games past getting to max beta rank 14.

Wall running is overrated. It's nothing more then Mirror's edge running in a FPS. It's limited. You run sideways along a wall and then drop....so you either need to chain it to the other side of the wall (if even possible) or find a place to jump or double jump onto.

I repeat you ARE NOT running up buildings like Saints Row IV or Prototype or some other superhero game. It's mirror's edge style wall running, so you can get to some other path in the map. This really is completely overrated. It's a limited gimmick to access some other pathways.

Mechs also don't hover. They are ground mechs.

So from what I've seen while playing the 'vertical' nature of the game and 'wall running' are completely disappointing and untrue.

You don't run on walls proper. The maps in the beta are not vertical in any way and there is no mech hover.

If you want a proper mech game, try Hawken or maybe MechWarrior online. Going in I thought Titanfall would have comparable mechs. But it's not even close.

Meanwhile I've had a lot more fun playing BF4 or KZ:SF the past few months. This game, while enjoyable, simply doesn't have what those games have.

The bots really are a hindrance, and the big innovative claims of vertical nature of the game and wall running is unfounded.

Try the game, and I hope you enjoy it, but no, it no way, shape, or form is this game revolutionary or anywhere close.

[mediate-this]

Tf has super high points in the map, you obviously have not played the beta, you're smear campaign is not working buddy

[ssj27]

I have been gaming since forever..
They can fool the few but this BOTS are there to make the game easy and make casual feel like good player's.
For me Titanfall qualify as a COOP game mix with competitiveness. Most COOP games and fun and that is why everyone get out from the beta with a positive impression but they can't fool the gamers like me.

This game have been over hyped and once it released everyone will forget about it very soon and go back to COD or BF.

[LoveOfTheGame]

Well "gamers" like you, I call them kids, can just go back to the same old COD and BF while people who enjoy TF can look forward to its release and sequel.

Come back when you have been playing games for more than 10 years.

[ssj27]

sorry but I don't play COD since CODMW and BF since Bad Company 2. It's sad how those two games are more popular, specially COD but Titanfall does not deserve the hype plus is a coop game.
I play Killzone and obviously waiting for H-HOUR to give my full time to it.

Titanfall is even more casual them COD or BF and i bet It's a fun game just like any other COOP game.

[BoNeSaW23]

Is their gonna be a PvP with no bots option?

It's pretty ridiculous watching videos of players going 43-0 or higher with bots being 75% of the kills.

[n4rc]

Why do you care what their score is?

Why does anyone care? Bots are worth 1/5 of real players.. Let the noobs farm them, who cares!?

They are separated on the scoreboard as well.. For those needing the ego boost

This game isn't meant to satisfy MLG or you tubers.. Its meant to be a fun game..

And it is fun as hell.. I ignore the minions and kill pilots/ rodeo titans.. Unless your ego is being hurt by newbies having a half decent score while you have a great score, I don't see the argument

[MysticStrummer]

That's fine as long as you don't pretend it's a competitive type of game, as some on here do. You say it's not meant for MLG and I agree with you, but some of the MS honor guard on here swear it is. (see aiBreeze down there as an example)

I don't care about any of that. I care that the TF AI would lose in a fight with AI from most PS2 games, and I can't stand that.

I didn't hit agree or disagree by the way.

[BoNeSaW23]

Thanks for not answering my question at all!

@n4rc "Its meant to be a fun game"

Pretty sure that IS the goal of ALL video games buddy! Thanks for sharing your wisdom with me I was really confused that they were not intending on making a fun game :\

[AKissFromDaddy]

"“In general, they’re there not only to help newer players feel like they’re accomplishing something and getting a bunch of kills, but they also provide the sort’ve humorous element to the world. They will talk to each other, they will melee each other, they will drag their buddies behind cover."

LOL. I remember reading that the bots had their own missions they had to accomplish. What happened? lol

"Respawn’s comments largely confirm my own theories regarding the AI, primarily that they exist to allow less skilled players to have fun and feel like they’re contributing to their teams victory" Agreed. Waste of space.

[WolfLeBlack]

I disagree. Why does that make them a waste of space? Less skilled players get to have fun, contribute to the team and feel good about it.

Meanwhile, skilled players are still going to be on top of the boards as they'll be killing more AI and pilots, who are worth more points.

Sounds like a win-win to me.

[n4rc]

It is.. But ego won't allow some to accept that..

[MysticStrummer]

TF AI would get it's ass kicked by AI from two console generations ago.

That's not a win-win.

[AKissFromDaddy]

@WolfLeBlack
"Why does that make them a waste of space?"
A significant number of people and myself, don't want to play with bots. It's not fun for us. I want to have more fun. I'm much more competitive. Is it unreasonable that we want to have more competitive fun? What do you think?

"Sounds like a win-win to me."
There should be, at the very least, to satisfy everyone, mirror game modes without bots for people who dislike playing with bots and want a higher player count. Do think that sounds unreasonable?

Do you personally think Respawn will do that? Personally, without enough noise and attention to this, I doubt it because a significant majority of people wouldn't optionally play with bots. Leaving game modes with bots, unplayable because of low player counts.

What do you think?

@n4rc
"It is.. But ego won't allow some to accept that.." You're right. I do feel much, much better playing with real people. That's it.

@MysticStrummer Counter-Strike Global Offensive bots and Team Fortress 2 bots are God-like and that's more fun. I appreciate the challenge because I'm more competitive.

[WolfLeBlack]

@AKiss

As someone who has spent a lot of his life taking part in tournaments for various games, competition is something I understand, so I see where you're coming from. Even after stepping back from the tournament scene competition still drives me.

I do have a question, though, and let me be clear this entire post is typed with genuine sincerity, so there's no confusion and I don't come across as being sarcastic or something. Why do the bots make the game less competitive? And how would removing them make it more so? I assume you want to replace them with more players, which I can get. I'm personally hoping we may see a mode introduced with 8v8.

But from a competitive standpoint I've found the inclusion of bots to be a lot fun. They create a flow to the game, giving me something to have fun with before I run into the next pilot to murderise :D

And yes, more options for a wider variety of people is always a cool thing, but given that bots are a central part of the games design as is the 6v6, I also view it as the developers right to keep the game how they wish. If they feel a larger player count with no bots wouldn't work well, then I don't begrudge them choosing not to sink the resources into its creation, even if a lot of people on forums demand it. It's Respawns game - if I don't like the product, I won't buy it. Simple.

But I can see why there's a divide on the bots. To me, I like 'em, though I would like to see their difficulty increased so that even a grunt can kill a pilot every now and then. After numerous hours of play they only killed me once, largely by pure accident :D

For me they let beginners have fun and contribute, which doesn't get in the way of competitive play. Killing bots doesnt get you to the top of the boards - good players will still be at the top, contributing the most.

[AKissFromDaddy]

@WolfLeBlack
I agree as much as I disagree with you ^_^.

"Why do the bots make the game less competitive?"
Personally, I don't want easy kills for anyone, including myself. I want to crush spirits and morale, lol. I feel uncomfortable being this honest, but you opened the path ^_^.

I only play "kill objective" game modes such as Deathmatch & Team Deathmatch and I want to limit options to only facing real people. Titan Fall's bots don't try hard, don't make mistakes, don't call in Titans, don't hop on Titans(for support or take downs), don't truly feel anything if they win or lose, and don't help me win because Respawn design them like this. The bots are crutches and I'd like only the option to remove that crutch, and play with people who like that idea.

"They create a flow to the game, giving me something to have fun with before I run into the next pilot to murderise" I understand you. However, my fun, is only murderising real people. I like trying to murderise people who are trying and can only, exclusively murderise me back.

"For me they let beginners have fun and contribute, which doesn't get in the way of competitive play."

Understood. That's exactly why I'm advocating for an alternative, optional choice of modes without bots. I rather play with beginners and help them out, than play with bots programmed to die.

"Killing bots doesnt get you to the top of the boards - good players will still be at the top, contributing the most." I wish that were true.

The last game that I played with my close friend, formly keastkeast87 but today Conkeastador, I killed 9 Pilots, 1 Titan, 8 Minions, and died 4 Deaths.

ConKeastador killed 1 Pilot, 1 Titan, 51 Minion!!!, and died 2 Deaths. He came in 1st place on my team while I was in 3rd. I was beat out for 2nd by a stranger named "Potatobellum", who kill 2 less pilots but killed 12 more minions than me. We completely completely and utterly destroyed our opponents in Attrition, 250-85. They didn't even get to the half way mark.

Nevertheless, Conkeastador just got access to the PC beta last night, Feb. 18, 2014 at 11PM for the first time. This was our 13th match and he figured that if he uses "Stim", over "Cloak", to run ridiculously fast with the Smart Pistol, he could get a lot of minion kills.

I killed much more pilots but that wasn't enough. I can't attach the screen shot of the scoreboard, so this is the video of our game with commentary:
http://youtu.be/IEV5VL86aEo

The bots aren't just for beginners, they'll be heavily abused by the best or smartest players, making player vs player, difficult or useless. You can enjoy my gameplay up until the scoreboard, because it's AWESOME ^_^, or skip near the end to examine the scoreboard. I even focused the ending on it. What do you think?

[DanielGearSolid]

The bots pretty much guarantee this can't replace COD as an E sport

There has to be a mode without bots

[pompombrum]

The Parkour elements alone elevate it above COD as an esport worthy title. Still, if the rumours are true that Titanfall won't have a LAN option, you can kiss goodbye esports anyway for it.

[DanielGearSolid]

How? The parkour doesn't take much skill...

Similarly killing bots doesn't take much skill and is pretty much pve

Esports focus on pvp, and especially skill

[MysticStrummer]

The bots negate any e-sport cred that parkour could possibly give.

[pompombrum]

Basic parkour doesn't take much skill but some of the stuff some people are pulling off is just insane and certainly does take a lot of skill. If skill was the main focus of what makes an esport though, COD wouldn't be an esport and at least the Parkour elements make it more entertaining and open up a lot of possibilities for different game modes.

[mcarsehat]

they need to not make the bots counted in a teams points to win the match, my mate complains about this a lot.

[thehitman]

EXACTLY. That is sooo dumb people with like 7 kills have less points than a person with 1 kill cus he farmed bots. Either add 2 more players or get rid of the bot adding to score.

[christocolus]

nice.. no one can deny it, this game is awesome. respawn has done a great job with this game. i played it at my friends house quite briefly today and i had a blast . i went full rambo on the field...lmao.it took me awhile to the wall running but i nailed it, i didnt give a crap about the bots ai cos the guys i played where quite skilled.

This game is going to be so much fun,it needs to be experienced by everyone. those who hate the xbx one pls try to pick it up on the pc or the xbx 360, you need to try it out for yourselves.i just hope respawn can tweak the minor hiccups before launch though. ...cant wait.

[OrangePowerz]

In what world are spectres dangerous? They are still cannon fodder even if they are better than grunts.

[Silly Mammo]

I've played the PC beta for about 2 hours. It's really fun, but if this game wasn't so hyped, I don't know if I'd care about it as much. I'll probably get it later on, but not for $60.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

The game is chaos crazy already and you guys want more humans

[n4gusername]

The AI is the way it is so that everyone gets their free "kill streak". Titanfall 2 will drop the bots in the main multiplayer. Make fun of CoD AI all you want, but Titanfall's ai is ignorant. At least the fish move when you get near them and the bots actually try to kill you.

[mercury228]

They are not there to replace players though at all. They are there to farm and get your titan faster.

[kingPoS]

Unreal tournament 3 : Mech Edition

BTW, I play offline on UT3 with bots, makes it easier to get kill streaks that way. lol

Gateway MT6706 2008

[CJDUNCAN]

the ai in the game is pretty dumb and i figured it was simply for new comers to not feel overwhelmed on the battlefield. Another company lie, but Titanfall is a pretty fun game regardless.

[mercury228]

People, they are not there to replace players. If you have played Dota or LoL they are basically creeps. They are there to get your titan faster and to generally murder.

[OldDude]

It's hilarious to me how a whole bunch of people who don't own XB-1's or ever played the game talk about how crummy it is. Get over it, sometimes the other system has a great game your 1 and only system doesn't have. PS4 will have great games the XB1 doesn't have, and sometimes it's the other way around. Butt-hurt fanboys. Sony must pay people for some of these comments because nobody can be as stupid as half the things said on N4G. And yes, Xbox guys make dumb statements too, but they aren't on the attack constantly spewing stupidity half as often as the zealot PS4 guys. Oh, and yes I own a PS4. A whole lot of vapor hype at this point, show me a good game. KZSF, nope, Knack? yeah right... please. As far as resolution goes, nobody that is a graphics whore buys a console. Save your paper route money and build a PC.

[Silly Mammo]

But the point is it's not just PS4 owners grumbling about not being about to play it, it's also people who've played it on their PCs.

[parentsbasement]

well said old dude.....(I bet im older though)

[ger2396]

How do you know that they don't own an Xbox 1? Believe it or not there will be people who'll play it and won't like it. Shocking, I know. You say resolution doesn't matter. Then why not play it on the 360 and save $500? If graphics don't matter.

[OldDude]

I play it on a high end PC personally with the graphics maxed. And yes, I am sure many own XB1's and may not like it. Initial reactions have been far more positive than negative however. By reading what many have written on N4G it's clear many that condemn it have never played it. It's just not on their system of choice so therefore it sucks. By that logic Infamous must suck too which I highly doubt. Titanfall for me personally is a blast, more fun than I have had in a game in years. While not quite as good looking on my XB1 as my pc, it's still great looking and a blast to play IMO. I just wish it were multiplatform so more could enjoy it. And again,I own a PS4, I just don't see the sense in attacking people or products because they aren't the same piece of plastic the other guy bought.

[parentsbasement]

Ive played it on and off today , fun as hell imo , shoot the damn bots or don't , who really cares ? people think their gona go pro or something?.....gees .....

[KontryBoy706]

after playing the beta it makes sense the bots are there. easy kills to keep your clock down to get the Titan. It also prevents camping too because people won't camp for kills to get Titans. You can run out there. The more you kill the quicker you get the Titan. The less you kill and sit in a room the longer it will take to get a Titan.

[quenomamen]

Cuz if they didn't exist in the game then this would be another COD re-skin ?

[mediate-this]

Some people are trying really hard to hate this game, making up all sorts of reasons, first its tfvwont sell, second its tf wont be competitive in esports.

Give it a rest tf is a great game, super fun, it will be successful in its own right, i was thinking about this as i was playing lastnight. The bots are like the grunts from halo, comedic relief.

I actually leave the bots alone, i act as if there not there, and i hunt the pilots. I personally think it is fun as hell.

6v6 is kinda small i will agree, the may increase the player count who knows but to me it is still a fun a game. If they increased they player count that would be hectic, even 5v5 titans is crazy.

[urwifeminder]

They should triple the bot count make it chaotic have hundreds running around such a tight game.

[Phoenix76]

I saw better BOT AI back in the day when I was playing Timesplitters 2 on the PS2 years ago!!! We didn't have the amazing "power of the Cloud" back then!!! This is one of the worst games I have seen in a long time. And before you all start with ya fanboy-ism talk, I do own a PC and could if I wanted to, buy this game....... which I wont now. This is some of the worst marketing ever done by a games DEV and Publisher and I find t truly amazing at how many of you all, are falling over your self's on this like its the second coming of Christ!

[Ace Killa 08]

Bubbles+++ TimeSplitters 2 AI was fun and competitive!!

I also have to agree with the marketing, who has made something purposely noob friendly for the game???

It has also yet to be disproved that the bot kills add up to the total score and I do believe it affects it.

Had a match were mu mates got no more than 10 kills for pilots and 40+ bot kills and won!

[ThreshStar]

Booooo! This game isn't EXACTLY like everything else I've been playing for the last 10 years! They should be ashamed of doing something differently that allows players of ALL calibers to enjoy themselves!

...wow, it's as if Respawn was trying to create a game that would just be fun. Apparently that's not allowed anymore. I guess all FPS games must be modeled after CoD or Battlefield 4.

Those of you complaining about this, by the way, probably should never complain about the game industry becoming stagnant and redundant...you know, if you're just going to destroy every new concept that comes along.

Oh, and it won't be PERFECT, either. SORRY. I'll apologize on behalf of them that you didn't get your amazing competitive game with 0 flaws that was given to you for free.

[killzone619]

the bots are not supposed to challenging. they are an easy way to earn a titan so the gameplay can remain fast paced.

If dumb bots didnt exist, People would just be camping for titans which would ruin the gameplay. The whole point of titanfall is earning a titan.

Bots also play the objective unlike most gamers these days...

[Pogue1906]

They can make the bots bad-azz if they wanted to. what we are getting now is exactly what they was aiming for. I'm telling you, if you added the same amount of real players instead of bots, the game would turn into you shoot from your side and I'll shoot from mine.Hell, its hard to cross the map now without getting shot in the rear end. Bots help you get your titans faster, which is what the game is all about. This game is the most balanced game I've played in years. I cant wait to see the balancing act on the other two types of titans. Even the loadouts of the Pilots and Titans seems to be perfectly balanced.