What is Titanfall's Largest, most Annoying Flaw? Hands-on Impressions with the Beta | Twinfinite

Twinfinite writes:

Titanfall is without a doubt an incredible game, but if the beta is any indicator, the game has at least one important flaw worth noting.

[BelkingOfSony]

bots

[VENOMACR1227]

I play Hardpoint, objective based, so killing bots does nothing to the overall score of the game. I end up killing more pilots then bots anyway. All they do is take a whopping 5 seconds off my titan fall. Pilots are like 30 seconds. Bots are stupid yes, but at least they go to objectives and you can use them as bait.

[bornsinner]

i don't see many pilots when 3 of them are in mechs, leaves only 3 real players to kill.. seriously they need a high player count for it to be fun

[mewhy32]

I see lots of people complaining about the low resolution and that the frame rates drop in the 40's when in a titan? Really shouldn't this game be running at 60fps at this resolution? I also see people complaining about the bots. They are saying that they are just stupid lol. I have to agree with others that the player count really needs to be bumped up to at least 24 players.

[hipnotyze]

Why? Have you played this game? If all you can find and eliminate are bots you are doing something wrong. The bots rarely wipe out Pilots, and they also usually help direct the flow of the battle in a specific area. It fleshes out the experience by making the battles more immersive, believable situations.

I'm sorry if some of you think that the bots are a bad idea, but at the same time, I have a hard time believing any of you naysaysers have played the game and know what you're talking about.

[H0RSE]

Yeah, once you play the game, you notice that the presence of the AI really doesn't change/ruin anything. If anything, they add a cosmetic flair to the game - something to make the battle seem more dynamic. Something simply adding more players wouldn't do, since the AI is scripted to behave a certain way, rather than the random behavior of players. They are also marked on the minimap, so you know if it is a bot or a player.

[Bernlock]

Do not understand why people complain about bots. I never focus on them and have no problem finding pilots to kill

[Voozi]

I guess you don't play Attrition?

[VENOMACR1227]

Aren't they only worth 1 point in attrition where pilots are 4 and titans 5? I only played one game of attrition, didn't like it. Hardpoint is more enjoyable to me, plus the bots don't interfere with the outcome of the game. Finding pilots to kill isn't hard. If your singling in on bots to kill, your really not helping the team where you could be taking down a titan, getting an objective, or finding pilots.

[Bernlock]

Attrition is all I play

[Voozi]

Right but I'm talking about Attrition where bots are problematic. You can run around killing a shit ton of bots very easily and quickly using the auto-aim pistol which gets more points than trying to take down a titan or find enemy pilots to kill.

Because of this, Attrition games only last ~5 minutes and are unplayable, which is an issue.

[STANK08]

Attrition last 5 mins? LOL. BS, you haven't played the game based on your exaggerated bogus claim.

[Voozi]

Really? Add me on Origin - chezmaster

http://i.imgur.com/CI6lAvc....

Attrition games do last 5 minutes if your team knows how to run around with the auto-aim pistol and focus down bots. I hope they fix this because while I do prefer Hardpoint, it's nice to play some TDM to mix things up.

Also, they need implement some sort of team shuffling and/or balancing. A lot of times the games are very one sided which takes away from the fun whether you're on the team doing the steam rolling or on the team getting steam rolled.

[towelie1288]

Badass game really fun.

[dale_denton]

no skill required and no gun recoil and AI bots.... badass and really fun? Interesting.

[towelie1288]

you sound a little jelly kid
its ok

go play knack

[dale_denton]

No thanks. I'm actually having a blast playing Killzone SF.. you know, a competitive online game.

[T-Dawg6]

I really hate those bots...

[styferion]

one important flaw : not on Sony consoles

[thrust]

Hahaha oh the butthurt!

[WeAreLegion]

He doesn't seem butthurt. He's just saying it would do even better if it released on another platform.

[styferion]

who's butthurt? don't be so insecure man..
I'm playing it on PC btw.

[VanDamme]

@WeAreLegion Exactly, just like if they released The Order on Xbox.

[dale_denton]

the butthurt? the only flaw he meant was that if cant ever be 1080p on a console because of xbone exclusive holding it back.

[heisenberguk]

I remember when GTA4 DLC was never coming to PS because MS paid for it's development and look what happened there

[Gamer1982]

Meh you can play Killzone with humans and bots aswell on PS4 its out now.. But do people use bots?? NOPE.. Not unless there getting offline practice and why is that?? Because bots are useless for anything but practice and a bit of fun.No competitive edge to them whatsoever. Lets be hoenst they were only put in because the xbox couldn't handle more than 12 mechs at once in the game. Thats why its limited to 6 players. The balance chatter is complete BS.. Bots are there to fill out the numbers nothing more because of hardware restrictions.. Maybe they could have got more players if they had longer to work on the game but its going to be rushed as its an early console title.

[sandman224]

I love the fact that Titanfall added computer AI to the game. It makes getting kills much easier instead of looking everywhere for campers. I hope more multiplayer games go this route.

[curtis92]

Ugh, please no.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

i wanna say he is trolling to get attention

[mantisimo]

Player on player please, like we had last gen.

[IRNMUNKEY]

Biggest problem is Sony fans moaning about:

A it being crap, low res, unoriginal or cod with mechs

Or

B wanting it on PS4

Jekyll and Hyde much?

[Xballicon]

Amazingly fun FPS...having burned out on Call of Duty, this is something new and different. Not being as good an FPS player as others, the bots provide an excellent way to balance out the scoring system for all player levels.

[H0RSE]

"Not being as good an FPS player as others, the bots provide an excellent way to balance out the scoring system for all player levels."

- here is a good video illustrating why devs implement mechanics like this in games. It's called "balancing for skill."

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Tobito86]

Does anybody know if the beta is open on pc now? I would like to try this game when I get off work.

[IRNMUNKEY]

Not open per se. Everyone who applied for beta before Sat 4pm will get the beta.

[jacksjus]

A homie of mines has played the Beta and his exact word are this was the funnest on-line game that he has ever played. He sad that it doesn't look the greatest but it's fun as Hell. Although I despise on-line play we share similar taste and I will take his word over any bloggers. I will now have to assume that this game meets the hype because this guy is tough on games.

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

The bots aren't even an issue. Just run right by them. It's not like they are stealing your kills or killing you or getting in your way.

[Fishy Fingers]

Playstation fanboys.

[Tobito86]

I would like to say enjoy your game and just ignore their foolishness but honestly I get agitated every time someone bad mouths infamous. So I feel your pain.

[spoiled9]

Why you got to start? Enjoy your game, it looks like a lot of fun. I honestly wish it was on PS4, but its not so I guess I'm SOL. I won't buy a XBOX and I don't PC, so I'll admire from a far.

[Bdub2000]

I've spent a considerable amount of time with the beta, all game modes are incredibly fun and this game is addictive... The bots are an annoyance, but really only until you catch on to the flow of the game. There is a small learning curve with ignoring them and getting other pilots, and your pilot/bot kill ratio will go up eventually, but I would seriously prefer to take out other skilled players.

That being said, any more players, and there would be way too many titans at the same time on the map, so 6 vs 6 is good for balancing the maps. But still...

The issue goes away with hard point, just attack or defend a checkpoint and the other pilots will come, and the bots don't get in the way.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

"That being said, any more players, and there would be way too many titans at the same time on the map, so 6 vs 6 is good for balancing the maps."

i agree 100% and that is probably why respawn went with 6v6 rather than 12v12,

I enjoy this game a huge amount, and im sure with a few tweeks here and there this game can be a big competitor for best fps shooter

[parentsbasement]

"What is Titanfall's Largest, most Annoying Flaw?"
well I just started playing this morning , but for me its getting ripped out of my titan , seeing that im a girl, then getting tossed like a rag doll and then maybe stepped on......

[Ra3030]

I love the Titanbot fanboys all regurgitating the say crap about the dumb down bots in Titanbot. "Their in the game to control the flow" or "you don't have to shot any bots just watch your mini map and when the red dot pops up its a human player". And I love the "Titanbot's style and flow removes the CAMPERS" yet in every video there the campers are in the windows or roof tops pawning the bots to get the mech faster. Microsoft paid to have this game hyped and it sadly has become the X1's breast for the X1 fanboys to suckle and have comfort and security. Using Titanbot as an example it's clear the X1 fan base can not in any way think for themselves.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I look at your post and all I can see is: Blah blah blah fanboy blah blah blah trolling blah blah blah fanboy blah blah blah trolling blah blah blah fanboy blah blah blah trolling blah blah blah fanboy blah blah blah trolling blah blah blah fanboy blah blah blah trolling blah blah bla.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Read the article but his first statement pretty much is all anyone needs to understand about the impact of bots on this game and its enjoyment: "Titanfall will live up to all its hype and then some. I spent many hours over the past weekend with the beta, and I enjoyed every single one."

[mochachino]

"Moreover, the 6v6 combat scheme allows for only 12 player-operated Pilots on each team, the rest of the battle being occupied by bots"

I think the author meant 6 player-operated Pilots on each team but anyways, I guess Respawn was just lying when they were saying that the game couldn't be done without the cloud due to the AI.

I guess a lot of people don't care, but I have no respect for devs that flat out lie to gamers.

[Blues Cowboy]

...erm, what? Titanfall is PvP, not PvE, and the bots are balanced to be completely frictionless. They're not a threat - and can be ignored - but they make matches feel less like arenas and more like actual battles. Plus, killing them makes you feel great, even if you're having an awful round.

I expected to hate the AI - and I'm NOT saying it's perfect, there's still pathfinding work to be done - but they're useless by design, and actively benefit the game IMO.

[ALS365]

i don't get what the deal is with bots. its so easy to tell real players and bots apart. i kill like 5 bots a match. so far the game is ridiculously fun to play. couldn't care less about anything anyone says this game will fly!

[DevilishSix]

Anyone know if there will be cross-platform play between 360 Titanfall players X1 players? My guess would be since its using MS servers and playing thru XBL they should be able to but I have not seen confirmation they can or can't.

[PhoenixRising37]

DO PEOPLE NOT REALIZE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO RAISE THE PLAYER CAP BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE WAY TOO MANY TITANS ON THE MAP AT ONCE???