Titanfall Beta Is Incredible But Don't We Want More Than Bots?

Gameversevault:

Titanfall is a truly incredible game but some of us would prefer to fight more than silly bots.

"After playing for several hours I finally realized that it basically came down to the fact that I'm fighting bots. I really enjoy the game. I'm going to play more. I'm going to buy it. I'm just not sure how long the thrill will last after getting used to the bots spawn points and killing them with ease and then just facing a very tiny amount of actual real live players."

[Kingthrash360]

been saying that since they announced bots.
did it on kz and never went back to bots...there is no reason for them really other than giving the illusion of more going on.
when i say this people always say well "i ignore the bots" or "if you kill only bots it wont help you"
but from what i've seen you get time off the 2min timer for a titan...yeah you get more time if you kill a pilot but still you can kill these bots and get a titan regardless. if you just ignore them then why justify their presence in the first place?
when you kill them it counts as your kill count ..hell i've noticed everbodys has like 40+ kills with single digit deaths. smh
titan is awsome and i'm not saying its a bad game by any means but dem bot overall take away from what titanfall could have been.
honestly it shouldn't get a 10 rating because it's missing elements that are standard like bulletholes in walls and destruction. cod ghosts has more destruction on the 360...just saying funfactor is a 10 but longevity and graphics and ai are a 5 at best.
please dont tell me this game looks above average because it doesnt, its average at best.
i doubt they will fix alot when it ships and its good fun but bot kill the overall long lasting fun of this game.
hopefully the have a bot free mode...or at least patch one in.

[Germaximus]

I agree with some of your thoughts but I still have hope. They did so much to change the typical FPS game into something as fresh and new as possible. So I can't help but think they will try to improve on the game and make any cool changes that will continue to make it better.

It's still possible for this game to grow, ya know?

As far as the bots. It is funny to think that people would ignore them. I mean you can but like you said they're there for a reason. I totally get it. I'm not asking for 64 players if that would be too much, but I think 20 would be good if not 32.

It's a very fun game. I'd just really prefer to play against more live players.

[Kingthrash360]

agreed 10 v 10 players + 6v6 bots would make all the difference...dat vid where the guy runs around kicking everybody and had less than 10 deaths shows the bad of ai.

[GuyThatPlaysGames]

@kingthrash I still get a "kick" outta that video everytime I watch it lol

[JokesOnYou]

"there is no reason for them really other than giving the illusion of more going on"

Yes that already is a GREAT REASON that the bots are important to the game, yep and they are easy as hell to kill but it all adds to the meta game experience, just as in a SP game there are easy enemies to kill and then much harder enemies to kill but in this setting you get the feeling of a large scale war, more so than just a team vs a team. Plus so far besides the fact that obviously the bots and teammates spawn on the side of the map with their own team the spawn points themselves are completely random, so I don't get that point. The bots add to the chaos, its a good mix of Titans, humans and bots....more humans would be tough and things might not be as fun competively because you would die alot or you'd see more camping so bots actually encourage you to run around racking up points while hoping you get the drop on a human player= yet another reason for "minions". I'm sure Respawn knew what they were doing thus the decision for 6v6 is the right balance, after 2 days of playing it feels pretty damm hectic and I can't wait for the full game so to me they nailed it.

I was so dissapointed prior to yesterday because I hadn't received a beta invite yet. NOW I'm pretty excited, the game is very addictive even based on only 2 maps, limited weapons & game modes also just 1 Titan in the beta. I love Respawn's confidence with this beta, players get to see its runs buttery smooth, I haven't had one hiccup, the graphics are better than the naysayers say....Im hearing good things online but its weird everyone seems a bit quiet but I think it's because nobody's dominating since it's fair to say folks are still learning the ropes, I expect more trash talk as people get better. Again Respawn has done a helluva job, they even said if you don't like the gameplay of the beta, then don't buy on faith it will get better NO just don't buy it=they know it's really damm good(and yeah of course the full game with all content will be better), it's going to be my shooter of choice until another great shooter comes along, this Halo5, and Destiny will likely fill my shooter needs for the next few years.

COD and BF are off my list unless they do something different/something interesting that separates themselves from the last few yearly installments.

Back to Titanfall.

[4Sh0w]

Just a few recent impressions, there's plenty more, regardless if you like the bots 95% of the previews and the gamers, myself included love the game:

"Games in Asia: I got a chance to play Titanfall at TGS and loved it. But that was a long time ago, and it was one round of one game mode only. Over time, I began to wonder whether the game was really as great as I remembered, or whether Respawn Entertainment could really deliver that experience on a larger scale."

"I realize I shouldn’t have worried."
http://www.gamesinasia.com/...

"The game also seems exceedingly fair. While we're no pros at it yet, the learning curve seems to support both those that'll take to the game instantly and those that'll need a bit of time getting used to the slightly more multi-dimensional brand of combat the game presents."
http://www.slashgear.com/ti...

"Titanfall Beta Impressions: A Breath Of Fresh FPS Air"
http://www.gameinformer.com...

"First Impressions: We can't wait
Titanfall isn’t a radical reinvention of the online FPS, but it innovates and enhances where it counts. The ultra-mobile pilots and heavily-armed titans transform the flow of action, and the interaction between the two scales of battle shows design ingenuity and smarts. If two maps and three game modes feel this good, we can’t wait to play the finished game."
http://www.trustedreviews.c...

Jokes I couldn't agree more, like how you always sum things up and make sense through all the BS.

[Kingthrash360]

jokes i feel you bro..i really do ..but you cant look me in the eyes and tell me the game would be better with more players less bots...or smater bots. i never once said it wasn't fun...i gave fun a 10 but it falls short on the ai the graphics and the longevity side of gaming.
and as i said before hopefully they fix the ai that would make it last longer and feel more like you have actual help from the bots.

[sobotz]

The bots serve the same purpose minions do in most MOBAs. They're just there so you can kill and call down your titan faster. I actually like the bots actually

[Kingthrash360]

i bet, since u can kill the human players ....nooooob.
lol jk...some will like the bots...but me, id rather feel like i earned them kills...earned them titans

[LightofDarkness]

The grunts are there to keep the game moving. They continuously go for objectives which forces campers to keep moving and actively fighting. They also help you get your Titan faster, if that's a route you wish to go. They don't really rack up enough points for it to be a viable option to farm them exclusively, so they're very much like creeps/minions in MOBAs.

You can't have destruction in this game like BF4. If you did, Titans could just clear the map of cover within minutes and pilots on foot wouldn't stand a chance. It would also destroy much of the wall running/parkour opportunities.

I think people need to stop looking at this game for what it isn't and play it for what it is.

[GuyThatPlaysGames]

How can a bot combat camping if it walks in and just shoots around you and is nothing more than an easy kill? I could sit in the corner of the room and rack up kills by the bots walking in and shooting everywhere while completely ignoring objectives. The companies can try all they want to combat camping or force players towards objectives and it's been since the existence of videogames and they have yet to achieve it.

[-Alpha]

Saying they "count as kills" makes no sense. They clearly distinguish between a pilot kill and bot kill.

That's like saying killing creeps in DOTA is the same as killing the actual players. There is a clear role for bots: they serve as fodder to reduce the titan fall cooldowns. Nobody complains in a MOBA that bot kills are worth actual kills. They don't "count" towards your official KDR. No one praises a player who has 50 bot kills and 10 deaths. People who are implying this are just pulling at straws.

[bganci]

I'm loving everything about this game. I do wonder how a 8v8 or a 10 v 10 would play out. It's only a beta still a month till launch. They can make some changes, not sure to what extent.I have a craving to play this game which I haven't had in a really long time. Will they get my money? Absolutely.

[MajorMayhem70]

6v6 is just fine. They tested out other versus counts and came to the conclusion that 6v6 was the best format. I played it this weekend and I can see why they came to that conclusion. Match 11th can't get here soon enough. This game will be a big hit.

[Pandamobile]

I'm sure the game started as 32 on 32 or something of that order. Titan Fall with more players would not be as fun. 6 vs 6 seems to be the magic number for the game so that there's never a dull moment, but you never have a shortage of player interaction.

I have a feeling that a lot of the people who aren't having fun in Titan Fall aren't really playing it like Titan Fall.

If you're not that good at shooters yet, you can the game as you would in Call of Duty or Killzone, or some other basic FPS game. When you start to really learn the maps, understand the purpose of the minions and develop some real skills, the game opens up into a world of fun, excitement and adrenaline.

[Oagoz]

Bots are ridiculous, currently have a 38 kd because of them..

[sobotz]

38 Kills for killing bots means nothing lol

[Kingthrash360]

so why have the bots if they mean nothing?

[LightofDarkness]

I explained why the bots are there above if you'd care to read it.

[MRMagoo123]

Hmmm I'm only commenting so I can come back here and see how sobotz tries to spin his way out of that.

[LightofDarkness]

Grunts do not appear as kills for your K/D ratio. They can help you get a titan faster, but do not count much towards your overall score. Their main purpose is to keep the game moving and combat camping. Killing grunts exclusively will net you almost no score.

[Allsystemgamer]

That's a nice grunt kd. Now what's your pilot kd. They're split. Nice trying to downplay the game though.

Boys don't add to your player kd

The real question is what's your win ratio with such a high grunt kill count. Huh?

[Riderz1337]

I gotta say I was sceptical of this game...but a friend of mine just gave me a PC code, and I'm loving it.

Only thing I REALLY hate are the bots. I find it super easy to go to the back of the map where they spawn and just take em out without any trouble. It just isn't satisfying for me to kill bots. Almost every match 80% of my kills are from bots.

Other than that, I love this game. Good catch by MS to be honest. Hope Titanfall 2 is on PS4 though.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

i like the beta so far but i really wish the game was at least 8v8 or 10v10. i like the idea behind the bots but theres no reason that i can see that the game wouldnt benefit by having more real players. great game and its lots of fun but hopefully Respawn listens to our feedback concerning player count.

[FITgamer]

I think 8v8 would be perfect anything more and it would be too hectic. Hopefully they can change that in a future update.

PC Beta Code:8AVM-WHMY-VPB6-7DCQ-A6SL

For some reason they sent me 3rd one.

[LAWSON72]

I hope they listen but I hope they keep to their ways and keep these original maps that were designed for 6v6 only 6v6. Would I love some DLC that had big maps, hell yeah but these beta maps already have trouble holding all the mechs and I dont think it would work.

IMO a game like this should have variety especially since it is MP only and it should do what Halo does and have different maps for different numbers of people. IF that is not possible with this Titanfall and a sequel happens hopefully they do something similar to that.

[Hicken]

Nooo, bots are fine. We don't need to play multiplayer against actual people. That's crazy talk!

[Zack_attack]

I've been playing all weekend, and I like the ratio. It's a good mix, and a proper amount for the size of the maps.

[Germaximus]

The size of the maps are easily big enough to have at least 10v10 if not 20v20. The only reason it's not is because of Titans. I would rather see a change in how many people can summon Titans per team and have more players.

[TheFallenAngel]

I went 6 pilots and 40 bots with 4 kills while ago. This game is too easy. You require no skill whatsoever. Titanfall is fun but not something I would play for months, hell not even weeks. Parkour is OK too. The hype is fake.

[LogicStomper]

"The hype is fake."

Sooo, all the people saying the game is amazing are actually not enjoying the game at all?

[Father__Merrin]

this is the second coming!!! brace yourselfs for titanfall

[nope111]

I think Titanfall looks fun from all the youtube beta vids i've seen, unfortunately it's not on the platform of my choosing..... yet.
Anyway, the biggest problem i've notice is the bots. They're pretty stupid and kinda ruins the flow. Respawn should ditch them and up the player count.

[shmeedy24685]

I've noticed that in most games I'm dying 2-5 in most games I've played, I had one bot shooting me from behind but completely missing and he was only 3 feet away so I turned around and kicked him and he was dead. The gameplay is brilliant but the bots are annoying and I hope for more Human controlled players but I don't think Respawn will change it so close to launch!

[4Sh0w]

Nope not annoying to me, they serve their purpose to get in your way and add to the chaos keeping the game flowing, I happily just kill the little bastards and move on waiting for my Titan while searching for a player to kill= it's fun.

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

I don't see how people can say bots are annoying.

They literally don't factor into the game at all.

If you focus on bots, it's your own fault if you get killed all the time.

[windblowsagain]

I wish people would stop trying to hype this game up trying to help sell xboxones,lol.

It's an ok game. Nothing special.

Cannon fodder most of the time and the bots are useless.

BF4 destroys all online FPS games.

[DFogz]

Bots are fine. I wish there would be a few more players 8v8, maybe a 10v10 with less bots, it seems I hardly run into any players unless they're in a Titan.

I kick all the grunts I run across to make my Titan drop faster, and I hack all the specter's. It doesn't take long before I can take a minute or more off my drop time and amass a small army of personal bodyguards that follow me everywhere