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Why Final Fantasy VIII’s romance was a load of crap

"I’m about to become very unpopular with fans of Final Fantasy VIII.

Now, I actually like Final Fantasy VIII. I think it took risks on its leveling and stats systems; risks that paid off. And for the most part, its story is fairly inventive and unique: a futuristic spin on Harry Potter that follows a group of gifted youths in a mercenary academy trying to fight off the threat of an evil sorceress.

But the game’s biggest claim to fame is with its increased focus on romance. The key players in this romance are Squall, a withdrawn swordsman with a chip on his shoulder, and Rinoa, a spirited young woman at the forefront of a rebellion. Over the course of the game, Squall and Rinoa fight alongside each other, surmounting obstacles both human and supernatural, and then end up falling in love.

I’m about to show you why their love story was total bullshit."

-- Maxwell Coviello

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Snookies124092d ago

I never felt it was very genuine either to be honest... I absolutely loved FFVIII though regardless. :]

DragonKnight4092d ago

Completely agree. FFVIII is my favourite PS1 FF game but I hated the supposed "romance" between Squall and Rinoa. It really felt tacked on, and more because of Laguna and Julia than anything else.

I would have vastly preferred if Squall and Quistis ended up together for what should be obvious reasons.

TheLyonKing4092d ago

My take on the game is it was never really about the relationship itself.

I have played this game more than any other ff it is my favourite for my own reasons of course.

I feel that it's more about the character development of squall, he was very closed in at the start due to feeling lonely that his 'sis' left. Felt like he couldn't trust anyone. Rinoa I believe is used as a catalyst for him being more open about himself and letting his friends help him.
While I do believe the relationship stems from squall just feeling open for the first time and Rinoa just feeling vulnerable after the whole Seifer situation I think that time and time again they proved they cared a lot about each other especially in disc 3 with the space scene and saving Rinoa from being locked up. Just because they relationship wasn't really physical it was there on an emotional level.

Happy belated valentines day haha

-Foxtrot4092d ago (Edited 4092d ago )

Highly disagree, it was pretty realistic in my opinion

Rinoa didnt just fall in Squalls arms, she teased him, flirted, played hard to get amd trier her best to figure him out. While he found it hard to read her signals because of his past hardening him, like when Ellone was taken from him at the orphanage and he ended up not trusting anyone ever again.

Fantastic character development for Squall by the way, it's what really nailed the romance and made it interesting

GrandpaSnake4092d ago

well said, when i played the game i always got the sense that the relationship was much more mature and the combination of different characters being in love in different dimensions.... or maybe something more like time zones really added to the development of a group of characters.

MRMagoo1234092d ago

100% agree the relationship they had was the best part to me, the fight squall put up to keep ppl out of his heart was very well done and the fight Rinoa put up to get into it was even better, I will always remember this game and the part where they are floating through space and squall is trying to save her was sooooo good. I also think the eyes on my song was perfect for it. Best game ever IMO I even named my daughter Rinoa lol

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Pozzle4092d ago (Edited 4092d ago )

I think a lot of people forget that the characters in FFVIII are still only teenagers. And teens are only just starting to date, fall in love, and understand what being in a relationship is like. So of course they're going to make dating mistakes, impulsive decisions, and have messy relationships. You're not going to be the perfect partner the first time you date someone. You're not going to be an expert on relationships when you're still in high school. Hell, most adults aren't even experts on relationships!

So maybe the author can't see why Rinoa would fall for a guy like Squall. But there are plenty of people irl who do fall in love with people like Squall. It's not like romance is some rare, strange concept that is exclusive to friendly and outgoing people.

And I don't like the author's idea that Rinoa should have taken Squall to task over his "whiny" personality and attempted to make him a better person either. That's not her job to do. You don't date someone to "fix" them (because that TOTALLY works, amirite?). You date a person because you like them. Though Squall DID change and evolve throughout the game anyway. He underwent the most character development out of anyone else in the game imo.

Though it's not like Rinoa and Squall didn't recognize each other's faults anyway. There are plenty of moments in the game where Rinoa calls out Squall for his nasty comments and standoffish behavior, or Squall questions Rinoa on her impulsiveness and lack of planning. And remember that scene where Squall carries the unconscious Rinoa to Esther? The whole time he's questioning why she means so much to him, and why he suddenly hates being alone, and why he's risking so much to save her. But love can be like that. Sometimes you fall for a person, and you can't even put into words why! Squall might not openly discuss his love for Rinoa, but that doesn't mean he's a bad person (or a bad boyfriend). His actions show how much he cares for her.

I'm not saying Squall and Rinoa's romance is written perfectly. But I also don't think it's anywhere near as bad as these types of articles always say it is.

/endrant

Hicken4092d ago

I need add nothing. Well Said.

ZombieGamerMan4092d ago

Your too late like idk about 6 years too late when Spoony made his infamous Final Fantasy VIII reviews

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Playstation Icons: Squall Leonhart

Gary Green said: Tempting as it is to dedicate our first installment of PlayStation Icons to a franchise-leader like Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, or even Sackboy, instead I’m choosing a character that I, like so many others, connected with on a personal level. He’s a moody, world-weary teen, a proud loner with no time for the drama of others, and yet he’s also a hero just waiting for the motivation to unleash his full potential. He’s a warrior. He’s a leader. He’s the king of internal monologues. It’s time to meet Squall Leonhart.

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10 PS1 Games That Actually Need A Remake

With hundreds of games, some of which are considered to be classics that hold up to this day, you’ve got the pick of the litter when it comes to choosing a potential remake

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RaidenBlack391d ago

^This. THIS!
Stop remaking PS4 games!
Remake PS1 and PS2 games à la FF7R, RE1, Mafia, Half Life style ....
Make Legend of Dragoon, Legacy of Kain etc Remakes happen

darthv72391d ago

Legend of Dragoon... WTH is Sony doing just letting this one squander?

-Foxtrot391d ago

I wonder if their mindset is like “meh we have Final Fantasy what’s the point of our own JRPG”

FinalFantasyFanatic391d ago

@-Foxtrot,
Square-Enix had a long period there where it seems they didn't know what to do with Final Fantasy, I think that time period would have been a good time to revisit their classics and remake them. Now it seems they're going full steam ahead with the franchise, so they have less reason to revisit those older games. I wouldn't mind if they subcontracted them out to other developers, that and I don't trust SE to remake their older games.

Cacabunga390d ago

Simply because i do not think it will succeed.. maybe a bad example but e we got Medievil remake after many years fans have beg asking... result is It flopped hard. Remaking a JRPG is so risky. Only a bunch of hardcore gamers who played the original would buy it. If Sony put even more budget into it then it’s even more risky.

As i suggested before, i think they should start remaking like square did with Star Ocean. Or something similar to Octopath Traveller. Build up some hype and try on higher scale later on..

Terry_B391d ago

Let me tell you about PS1 games that should get a remake actually.

Jumping Flash (As a VR game)
Ridge Racer 1-4 as Ridge Racers 3..just like the pretty perfect PSP RR1.-2 games but with even more content
Xenogears
Cardinal Sin which was full of nice ideas for its time but was plagued by technical limitations
Bushido Blade ^^ just like CS
Bust A Groove.
WWF Attitude. With the same roster, same voices,Only slightly updated gameplay but current gen graphics
Dynasty Warriors..yes the fighting game that was similar to Tekken 2 while it had weapons.As nice as the DW games are..its a shame they never released a new fighting game

And while I am at it.

Thrill Kill ...hell yes.

KyRo391d ago

Ah Thrill Kill, the game that was banned/cancelled but everyone had played 😂 what a throwback!

darthv72391d ago

jumping Flash would make a great VR game. Im actually quite surprised nobody has thought to do that one... even on the indie side for something like the meta quest.

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FinalFantasyFanatic391d ago

I miss Ridge Racer so much, give me a new game or at least a collection of the older games! I had a blast playing Ridge Racer PSP on my PS4 a few months back.

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FinalFantasyFanatic391d ago

I cannot understand the current business practice of remaking games from the previous generation, especially when they are very much playable today and still hold up well, it's even worse when people are willing buying them again. The PS1 generation is so ripe for remakes, I know more than a few people who would clamour for a Xenogears remake, or almost any game from that list.

Ravenkiss391d ago

and Valkyrie Profile Lenneth. They did Star Ocean 1 & 2 R already, VPL should get the same treatment.

Redgrave391d ago

I assume this to mean that you aren't considering the PSP port to be the remake in this statement? Like a remake of that one?

FinalFantasyFanatic391d ago

That version is quite old though, that was 18 years ago, so doing a remake in the vain of Star Ocean might be worth it (I did not think the PSP was that old until I looked it up).

Knightofelemia391d ago

I'd be down for FF8, and Xenogears. But I would also be down for Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. And I wish Namco would get off their ass and remake or remaster the Xenosaga trilogy.

FinalFantasyFanatic391d ago

There's been talk of a Xenosaga trilogy on the proviso that there was enough demand, I hope that actually happens one day.

Christopher391d ago

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LoveSpuds391d ago

What a fantastic game that was!

Skuletor391d ago

You forgot Tenchu: Stealth Assassins

Snookies12391d ago

Why does From Software not do ANYTHING with this franchise... It's so sad... Can't they at least outsource it to someone to try a revival?

leahcim390d ago

masterpiece, best OST of all times.

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Final Fantasy Games That Deserve the Remake Treatment

Final Fantasy has a long running history with numerous numbered titles and spin-offs, but which games stand to benefit from a remake?

gold_drake497d ago

i feel like all of them.
well except 2 haha.

shinoff2183497d ago

Agreed. Ff2 though can be made better, so it's not entirely a lost cause. Ff8 will gets its time. I do wish they'd do the old ones. From ff10 and up those ones still hold up pretty well.

kevco33496d ago

Honestly, I've always felt that VII and up 'hold up well' in that regard. The early 3D games just needed a cosmetic update. But the FFVII Remake is so different to the original in execution that a lot of games could be done in a similar fashion and feel far more modern.

I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing (that depends on your personal preference!), just that they could feel very different.

shinoff2183496d ago

Kevco I liked remake but I think your right. Idda been happy with a 1 to 1 remake that looked like ever crisis to. Or both

I'd just love I square would one day give us a turned based one with today's graphics. I can't really think of a jrpg that does that.

andy85496d ago

I'd rather the 13 trilogy just be ported tbh. No matter what you think if it, it shouldn't be the only numbered offline games not playable on new consoles. But naturally I'd play the **** out of 8-12 remakes.

shinoff2183496d ago

I do agree. I'd give it another shot even though I didn't like it at first. My taste change over time. Gta 4 for instance I was so disappointed it lacked so much of what san andreas had I didn't play it for like 5 years. One day went to a semi pro football game(American football) came home drunk and decided to try 4 again. I actually liked it after giving it a fair shot.

Rebel_Scum496d ago

Just make new games. Not every game needs to be remade.

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