Higher Resolution On Xbox One Possible But With Cutbacks,New SDK May Improve Titanfall's Resolution

"One look at the image above and you will understand what I am talking about. The details in the background are not really next-gen. The crowds, the trees and the track look bland and blurry."

[AceBlazer13]

LolBox One.Guess a 360 or PC would be the best version of titanfall to get. 360 for the larger potential userbase and pc for the definitive version.

[whitefang1988]

Ha Gonna go make popcorn for this.

[afterMoth]

Pacman is confirmed to be 1080p 60fps on the Xbox One. The cloud has unleashed ultimate power.

[VforVideogames]

what's a SDK?

[TheGreatAndPowerful]

So it looks like Gaf/CBOAT were right all along.

"It wont. Just look how Forza achieved 1080p60. Same will continue to happen with other Xbone games, assets will have to be downsized.

No amount of SDK tweaking will speed up weaker Xbone GPU or enable developers to use more than 32MB of fast framebuffer."

[Oner]

@ VforVideogames ~ SDK = Software Developement Kit

[BallsEye]

If Ryse which has larger levels, WAY more stuff going on, tons of real time simulation, higher resulution and amazing aliasing can look like this:

http://lowfatgaming.files.w...

Then it is clearly an old engine problem and crap dev tools, which will have an update soon. You guys forget about one of best looking games out there, running on same console you call last gen. Typical around here, just point out negatives, forget about the good stuff.

[Why o why]

Sadly, forza was the proof of this. Doesn't mean the x1 wont deliver great unique experiences. There will be improvements but you can only do so much

[pyramidshead]

Definitely. Forza took a pretty big hit compared to its E3 reveal.

[truefan1]

You say that as a slight, but I say thanks for your support. Every game Ttianfall sells the better, Xb1 gamers will be the ones reaping the benefits of your purchase, as in terms of gaming the XB1 is MSFT's priority. Also the more it sells the more inclined MSFT will be to keep it exclusive. In the world of finance guaranteed money trumps potential money everytime. Go ahead rile up all the ps4 troops and tell them to get it for 360, doesn't bother me at all. If I wasn't on this site I wouldn't be able to tell all the differences of resolution and fps anyway. All in all Standby for Titanfall.

[KimoNoir]

So why care about upgrading to a bone if you can play on 360? I mean you wouldn't have noticed the difference if it weren't for this site.

[malokevi]

Because Titanfall isn't the only game coming to XB1? I don't know about you, but I bought my console because I knew it would have all the games/features that I wanted. Titanfall included.

[BlackTar187]

Except True fan once Titanfall 2 comes out on all platforms granted it does good on Xbox the Potential customers are more of a lock. Then include DLC etc and Microsoft can't pay EA enough.

Do you understand how much Potential customers you're talking about by the time TF2 comes out? Could be 20 million or more.

Your logic only make sense on a new Ip if TF does good and TF2 comes out the franchise will be established and not operating on a complete unknown of potential

[christocolus]

im just glad ms has been able to deliver better sdks in time,

Ongoing development of 1st and 3rd party games i.e sunset overdrive, halo5, quantumbreak, crackdown3, mgs5, tombraider next,gears of war etc will continue on the new dev kits and this means studios will be able to get the best out of the box now.im definitly getting titanfall on xbx one ,too used to the xbx controllers now and besides the game looks like mad fun,will definitly be getting it day one.

@maloveki

couldnt agree more.

[killaarmy]

Haters will hate,u ever notice how the bs fanboys always have a negative sarcastic comment on a xb1 thread?????? so much time on they hands i guess resogun campaign isnt long enough smdh, when they hate just say HALO GOW L4D sales crushed every exclusive on ps in the last 8 yrs easily and titanfall will do the same facts XBOX 1

[Charybdis]

Guess so either way seems like a nice game to buy. Think most sales will be on 360 followed by xb1 and pc

[angelsx]

I love xbox360 but Xb1 is a joke

[Owen305]

Too bad it has 200k preorders on xboxone and less than 50k preorders on PC and 360

[Bearsfanfourlife]

Yeah except a different developer made the 360 so it may not be the same

[OrangePowerz]

Static trees that don't move aren't even current gen.

[medman]

Well said. Xbone done.

[xDHAV0K24x]

keep dreaming

[Bearsfanfourlife]

I'm trying to shoot to kill I'm not trying to admire the trees

[H0RSE]

Aww man, you got us... all the reasons people got an X1, from exclusives, to playing with friends, to the new kinect, to the new features it offers and all those who are happy with their purchase, you just voided all of them with the dreaded "static trees" argument...

I remember playing Forza and thinking how nice I thought the game looked, especially the cars, but know that I think of it ::the term "static trees" whispers through my head:: nah, that game is garbage. Those static trees really makes those cars look like ass...

I was just playing BF4 last night, and I thought I was having a good time, but know that I think of it ::static trees:: nah, I wasn't having fun at all...

Oh, and you don't have to say "static trees that don't move." Of course they don't move - that's why they're static...

[Xsilver]

http://i7.minus.com/i8sAbmM... if this is the best they can achieve with the Xone without cutbacks then i recommend they leave it alone.

[Testfire]

Well the Respawn crew are underachievers. They've never been known for their coding and technical abilities. COD4 was their only great game and even that was riddled with bugs. They were always lazy with the PS3 version of COD and never really tried to fix COD4 hacks and glitches that are still there.
They got lucky with the COD formula and are still using the same exact one with another ancient engine. This had nothing to do with the XOne's abilities, but rather Respawn's lack of.

[KillrateOmega]

@Mikethejew

If you're going to bother to reply to him and tell him that he's wrong, then instead throwing out a rather useless comment, actually detail how exactly he is wrong.

Simply calling him stupid and ignorant doesn't exactly cast you in a superior light.

[BlackTar187]

lol Killrate knows what he's talking about.

You can't say that to someone and not expand on your line of thought. Do you know how discussion works?

[lonelyplayer]

looks pretty cool actually

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Comon man, BF4 looks better than that on Xbox One lol
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/as...

[medman]

I'm shocked by how bland this game looks. That doesn't mean it won't be fun to play, but it really doesn't look like much of a leap from what many 360 games look like. Those who don't acknowledge this are apologists and desperate for something to play, I guess. I compare screenshots of this to Infamous, and Infamous is so much better looking yet it's a huge open world game. How does that happen? I'm waiting to see what The Order:1886 gameplay looks life after the embargo lifts. I'm pretty sure it won't look like something that's capable on the ps3.

[H0RSE]

Different engine. Different developers. Which helps to strengthen Testfire's argument.

If you want to look at if from the other side, look at Naughty Dog. They didn't develop those games looking so good because they had a kickass engine and butt loads of power to use - they did it because they are exceptional at using the tools they have at their disposal.

[BallsEye]

You forget what was already achieved.

http://lowfatgaming.files.w...

Please stop trolling. Titanfall runs in crap resolution on crap engine with crap effects but other game that has more stuff on screen looks like on the image above.

It's definately tools and engine problem. Stop trolling.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Thats a cutscene bro and the fact that the image is 1920x1080 is also propaganda since the game runs at 900p.

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

Again, the people most upset about this are the people who won't be playing it.

[Allsystemgamer]

This is y I'm getting it for PC

[Hicken]

It's more disappointed than upset.

Ironically, the people who SHOULD be upset are just bending over and taking it.

[MightyNoX]

Don't judge them. Some people like the abuse.

[maniacmayhem]

Should we also be upset about the inconsistent framerate of inFamous or how about Order:1886?

Seems like a lot of people are bending over respectively when their company of choice whips it out.

[tiremfej]

@DJustin,

my thoughts exactly. I don't see too many X1 owners complaining. I'll be happily playing it on March 11th to even care if its missing pixels. Why PS4 fans care is beyond me. Ignorance is bliss.

[BlackTar187]

I don't know maybe becasue you xbox fans made all last generation a competition between sales figures and pixel counting. The xbox crowd single handly helped establish multiple comparison sites and kept them profitable.

[H0RSE]

PS4 fans are the new PC elitists...

[tiremfej]

@Tart, Oh so Sony fans are getting Xbox fans back? Seriously? One of the most pathetic things I've heard in a long time. Wow.

[T2]

not exactly ... the bigger issue is how ms is to convince people who might buy two systems why they should buy an x1...
I'm still on the fence and titanfall isn't convincing me to drop 500 bucks for one game. Especially when I have a 360 already.

[Play2Win]

Sell the Bone and buy good GPU guys. Or a PS4. Seriously, 2014 and they are not able to push 1080p with the source code behind Titanfall. I mean, the renderer is DX9.

[Farmassy]

should we buy a PS4 though, if we want to play titanfall?

[Play2Win]

PS4 begins at 900p. Sorry

[TFJWM]

You don't have to buy anything I'm sure you have a 360 or PC that can run it

[mmj]

You could get a PC half the price of Xbox One that will run Titanfall at 1080P.

[allastocata]

Please show me how to build a 250 dollar PC that can run Titanfall comparably. The vid card Xbox uses runs about 110 according to a news article just published on this site and a copy of windows costs about 80. So 60 dollars for HDD, ram, proc, tower, power supply? I have to start shopping where you shop.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

What about the "powa of teh clowd' should at least get 3x better.. imma.right?

[iNFAMOUZ1]

With time tooooo sooon, probably working out everything, I expect a few more years till they use the cloud for rendering everything needed in a game.

[gigoran]

And when the cloud is gone? Games become unplayable. And... this is a GOOD thing?

[Farmassy]

PS fanboys are getting so unoriginal. Someone writes "powa of teh clowd" and y'all all start saying it likes its so funny.

make fun of stupid shit all you want... it won't change the fact that you don't have any good games to play. Go play knack and shut the hell up

[BlackTar187]

Why you so mad though?

[Farmassy]

@blacktar

I'm not mad at all. I just think its stupid. You can say things that completely disagree with me and it doesn't bother me. Just be remotely original

[Hicken]

No good games? That's strange. There are only about four or five games on XB1 that aren't on PS4. On the other hand, there are about a dozen PS4 games that aren't on XB1.

And with Lococycle and The Fighter Within getting abysmal scores, Ryse being rather meh, and Dead RIsing dropping frames like they're on fire... that leaves only Forza 4.5. Oh, wait...

Seriously, there's a level at which "good games" is subjective, but when your launch lineup is essentially ported over games from last-gen- half of which were for a peripheral nobody wanted then or now- and have been mildly received by all except the most dedicated fanboys, you kinda don't have any space to talk about someone else's lineup.

I'd be set with DC Universe, Resogun, and Killzone. There's enough in those three games to hold me over until inFamous, Drive Club, The Show, and The Order drop. Plus there's the fact that, unlik the 360, the PS3 still has worthwhile titles releasing for it.

I guess when you look at everything as a whole, you pretty much HAVE to say the XB1 lineup is good. Hell, it's not like you have any other games to play.

[Farmassy]

@hicken

yeah... out of all the games you mentioned, the only one I want to play is infamous. I enjoyed the first two but I got tired of them quickly.

The order could be good but it is too early to tell. They haven't released any gameplay for it yet.

Other than those two, I don't want any PS4 games. I will let you know that Dead Rising is an insanely fun game. Forza was a lot of fun and I don't even play racing games.

As for lococycle and the fighter within... nobody was saying those games would be great. I wasn't like, "Hell yeah, I want an x1 so I can play fighter within!"

what did yall get that is so great? Your best game is an indie title.

I have a PS3 and enjoy playing what is released for it so if I "look at it as a whole" I am pretty much set.

[3 p I c]

That 3v3 though! Lol jp I'm all for Titanfall!

[Fishy Fingers]

Really? It's as if these pieces of hardware have a set amount of resources and you have to compromise on how you use them. Surely this is the first time that's been the case...

[Father__Merrin]

SDK new incoming, should sort it all out with extra juice, I predict final game to be higher res

[RegorL]

SDK drop in 30 seconds...

[lonelyplayer]

E3 vs reality

http://static.gamespot.com/...

[Xsilver]

reality is harsh

[AKissFromDaddy]

I laughed hard for that one.

[elm]

The old sdk chestnut again! cool story bro

[KingDadXVI]

@DJustinUNCHAIND Well said.

"The trees that look like they were made with a polygon budget of 4. None of that matters when you’re driving fast, but the point is that cutbacks had to be made to get it to that resolution,”

LOL. This guys speaks out of his ass. The point is not, "that cutbacks had to be made to get it to that resolution" The point is, "None of that matters when you are driving" Which is what you do in that game by the way.

I have to seriously question his intelligence level when he cannot even recognize the relevant point in his own statement. That is similar to a blind man complaining the resolution on his TV is only 480p.

The real question should be would the background look as shitty if Forza 5 had the new SDK. The relevant point being no it would not.

Hate on fan boys. I am prepared for TitanFall, are you?

[Parsti]

Nobody cuts back graphics or resolution just for fun. if they could have done better they would have .And by the way everyone who owns a 360 or a PC can play Titanfall

[KingDadXVI]

"Nobody cuts back graphics or resolution just for fun. if they could have done better they would have .And by the way everyone who owns a 360 or a PC can play Titanfall"

Where exactly in my previous comment did I say that?. Can't find it? That would be because I did not say it.

Lesson for today children. When you read someone's comment please clear your mind of preconceptions. It is a good lesson to learn. Your preconceptions can impair your understanding of what you have read.

The point of my comment was not that they did not make sacrifices, it was that what they sacrificed was something that could not be seen while actually focusing on playing the game.

Maybe you play your games by freezing every frame and analysing it first. If so good for you but you will never win the game that way.

The humans that the game is targeted for do not sit 2 feet from the screen, use a magnifying glass and freeze each frame. Therefore it is only intelligent and a smart use of resources to not focus on something a player cannot see.

The other point I was making is that famousmortimer, who is a self admitted Sony fan boy was asinine in making a comment saying the point was that they had to take away from a background that even he admits cannot be seen when playing the game.

They did not have the new SDK at the time and did what they had to. The real point should be that smart decisions were made about what mattered for the visuals and that with newer SDKs being released over time fewer of those "cut backs" will need to take place.

[jgrigs09]

Really all the fanboys are saying don't get an Xbox one because of this? You know some people don't give a rats ass for graphics including myself? The only reason I'm getting ps4 is for the very same reason as the Xbox one. The games not the "graphics". I wish people would stop assuming people are getting the Xbox one because of
Graphics. Some people realize it's not a powerful
Console. Also if you look at the pre-order charts Xbox
One is killing the 360
Version.

[mmj]

"Higher Resolution On Xbox One Possible But With Cutbacks"

Same can be said of PS3, Xbox 360... the point is there should be no need for CUTBACKS on a next gen console. 1080P should be standard as it has been the television standard for 5+ years now, hell you can't even purchase a native 720P TV anymore unless it's straight out of a museum.

[CJDUNCAN]

Maybe it's me but it seems like we forget that consoles are an investment in the longrun of the machine. Titanfall is suppose to be a system mover not being 1080p seems to be scaring people off. It's definitely not an Xbox One mover because it is offered on the 360 which will have probably double the userbase than the X1.

Thanks to my brother my X1 is out for delivery today and I look forward to playing Titanfall on it, and look forward to future games that will no doubt be stellar.

I've had a few months playing the PS4 and it's an awesome machine, but I just like xbox better, even with the shortchanging in specs, it's okay. I know there will be great gaming experiences to come as well as the interactivity I can have with other media bases.

[Pogue1906]

i don't know who's xbone you guys been looking at. Games on mine looks great. The games looks better on it then it does on my son's PS4, the games that we have on both. Soooo there's that, plus having a better line up of games. This boost in performance is just the beginning. Get your popcorn ready, its gonna be a show. Starting 2/14/14, do some research before you talk. You've made the wrong choice again this generation.

[cruzngta]

I agree Pogue1906 - I have both systems and XBox1 has sharper graphics and brighter colors. PS4 is a beast of a machine and I love it as well. Knack is a ton of fun and KZ is a nice follow up to the first 3 games. People downplay eachother's machines to much. In the end get both and you can be much more objective and not favor either because of it. Now PS4 will have amazing looking exclusives as will XB1 but they are both very powerful and can easily output 1080p. Its just a different way of coding due to their different architectures with the choice of ram and gpu's. Look at it for what it is and it all makes sense. Neither company purposefully gimped their machine so they would lose the console war - they designed what they thought met their vision and as I said both are very powerful. Just look at the games they both have already and it is only the start of this generation. It will only get better in time. MS has always improved their software and products over time so these new sdks will make the whole issue of 1080p development problems dissapear. The PS4 is just a brute and will be amazing people this gen with really awesome looking games. Glad I have both.

[purp13m0nk3y]

Dude. They are different hardware. They are different specs. They perform differently because of that. No amount of SDK updates and software trickery will change that. Nor will more familiarity with the hardware, as the devs get better results over time with the Xbox1 hardware they will also get better results over time with the PS4 hardware.

The gap will always be there and honestly I can see the PS4 pulling further ahead because of it's unified RAM and it's excellent GPGPU compute capabilities (most devs have barely scratched the surface of this tech, and it has huge untapped potential)

Xbox1 is also capable of GPGPU compute. But it is less capable in this regard also, due to having a much fewer asynchronous compute sources available (PS4's GPU Has 64 Asynchronous Compute Sources vs. Xbox One's 4) Plus the Xbox1 APU (while similar to the PS4's) does not have the same GPGPU features as the PS4's and can not use the tech as effectivly.

Bottom line PS4 hardware is much better suited to gaming at 1080p. The Xbox1 is no slouch in the performance department (still a big jump from last gen) but it is less powerful than the PS4 by a good margin.

I can see this fact is going to take a long time to be accepted by the gaming community at large. But the sooner the reality sinks in the better so we can all move on.

I own both consoles. And all multi plats look and perform better on the PS4. The Xbox1 versions still look great. But anyone who claims to have seen both versions run side by side and still say the Xbox1 version looks better is either deluded, or biased towards the Xbox1.

[BadMF]

This is basically why I prefer sony-products.. while it's harder, you get straight access to hardware, so you're not at the mercy of someone else doing something to get the most out of your game.

[maniacmayhem]

When is this game releasing? They can up the resolution and QA test this in time for a release?

I guess...??

[jacksjus]

What do they mean by the new SDK may improve the resolution? Why is everything a mystery? Shouldn't MS work with Respawn personally to make this game as good as possible?

I don't get it.

[Bearsfanfourlife]

Even the best art is only a few lines...... Me

[mysteryraz11]

should have put in better hardware in the xbox one

[purp13m0nk3y]

Don't think they'll manage to get it to 900p. That is quite a jump from 792p!

Almost a 30% increase to be exact! 900p (1,440,000 pixels) vs 792p (1,115,136 pixels). Now they say the new sdk will free up an additional 8% of GPU all well and good. But a 30% increase in pixels will require a 30% increase in processing power to maintain the same fps with the same assets.

They will never drop the frame rate (with good reason) so it means assets will be reduced. Less effects, less effective AA (might not need to be as extensive as higher resolution reduces the appearance of aliasing) and or lower quality shadows anf lighting (ths last two can be performance hogs).

Of course I'm only speculating. I hope they achieve their goal of 900p. But I'm not holding my breath for 900p. I'll wait to see the final result before I pass judgment, but think I'll grab this on PC (if at all pending some reviews). They better deliver more than a COD clone with mechs. Cause COD games after MW2 were just cut and paste clones with zero gameplay inovation. Haven't played a COD game in years, that shit is so far past it's used by date its not funny.

[Ko_Uraki]

I wonder how many BS we have to read from these "insiders" before being considered not reliable. The story about the low-res textures of titanfall is another evidence that they are not.