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HDMI 2.0 officially announced

"With a bandwidth capacity of up to 18Gbps, it has enough room to carry 3,840 x 2,160 resolution video at up to 60fps. It also has support for up to 32 audio channels, "dynamic auto lipsync" and additional CEC extensions. "

The connector itself is unchanged, ... The cables won't change either, as the group claims

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SephirothX213887d ago

Good. My PC will put this to use!

2pacalypsenow3887d ago

If you have a 4k monitor it will

Coach_McGuirk3887d ago

or those wanting 1080p at 120hz over hdmi

UltimateMaster3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

"or those wanting 1080p at 120hz over hdmi"

You already have that with HDMI 1.4

Really, it's to get a faster frequency.

Right now, they are unable to get Active 3D (Not Passive 3D) on a 4K HD TV because there's not enough Bandwidth with the current HDMI, not even with the fastest ones.

And with 8K or 120fps TVs on the Way in the future, you need a better cable.

2pacalypsenow3887d ago

I think DVI does 120hz doesn't it?

SilentNegotiator3886d ago

Doesn't HDMI 1.whatever already support 4K?

ziggurcat3886d ago

@ silent:

i believe 1.4 supports 4K...

AndrewLB3886d ago

Zig- HDMI 1.4, 1.4a, and 1.4b can do 4K×2K i.e. 3840 × 2160p at 30fps maximum. To do 60fps you'd need 2.0.

Taiyed80- HDMI 1.4b can already do 3D 1080p video at 120 Hz

mewhy323886d ago

it's about time that this standard got established. I'd like to see 1080p at 120hz.

TehDiTH3886d ago

Why would anyone use HDMI on a PC and not use DVI?

Baka-akaB3886d ago (Edited 3886d ago )

Why should we use DVI over hdmi1 if not going above 1080p? It's the same , bare some issues on ports that would be the monitor's own fault .

And hdmi carry audio , for those that care and use Screens with speakers .

Kleptic3886d ago (Edited 3886d ago )

^yep...my pc has an APU and mobo with HDMI 1.4 out...My home theater receiver has an HDMI front port...and i leave a standard PC power cord hanging under the entertainment center...my office monitor doesn't have speakers, but has various audio out ports hooked up to the sound system. My desktop is only ever hooked up by 2 cables...

moving my desktop from my office to my living room takes about 5 minutes, and only involves 2 cables (power and hdmi)...my IPS office monitor is 1080p, and my HDTV is too...so i could use dvi (for both, actually), but HDMI is a lot easier in the plug and play nature and not having to mess with additional audio cables...at least for the time being.

in my case...i have no need for additional anything, as the resolutions i do anything at are the same between both displays...and hdmi is currently the easiest and fastest way to handle it...

only thing being i'll be getting a high end discrete gpu for BF4 in early october...which will have hdmi, but i'm not exactly sure how the audio will work with that...can a gpu route sound too? i've actually never looked into it...but either way, my mobo has optical out too, so it'll just be one extra cable...

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malokevi3887d ago

HDMI2 + 4K TV + XB1 + PS4 + Kick @$$ speaker setup = (pure bliss / awesome) * amazing

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torchic3887d ago

am I the only person who just doesn't give an egg about the Oculus Rift? I was waaaay more interested in Illumroom.

and, what is this article doing on n4g?

malokevi3887d ago

Oculus Rift is cool, and I would love to give it a try, but I feel like the tech isn't quite there yet, from what I've read. Plus I don't have a desktop PC, so I wouldn't have any use for it.

My happy place is in front of a big TV, surrounded by tower speakers, with controllers, consoles, and games littered all over the place. Also, more than a few smoking receptacles.

gaffyh3887d ago

@torchic - illumiroom is just a projector, with the edges showing selected parts of the projection. It only works in certain light conditions, needs a bigger than average room, and probably costs a bomb. Oculus Rift is much cheaper (going by prototypes) and versatile.

Conzul3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

Occulus Rift is impressive tech, but it's the apex of the anti-social experience....no one else can see what you're seeing. Gone would be the "hotseat" moments (as split-screen used to be called), gone also would be all other non-networked MP experiences.

I will never buy into such VR. Too exclusive of other people who want to watch or just chill with you while you pop a few melons.

badboy7763887d ago

These Articles Never include the Price!

IaMs123887d ago

Conzul:

That maybe true but you don't have to use Occulus Rift all the time. If you know people want to watch or will be watching just don't put it on...

Im personally excited for it for the single-player experience aspect, should be fun.

Nafon3887d ago

as long as you are going big, throw in a ridiculously powerful PC to that setup.

The Great Melon3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

@Conzul

Your thinking way too small. What prevents you from seeing your friends in the virtual world. Unlike standard games, VR really allows you to trick your brain to believe as if you are actually there. The people you see in VR will be convincingly real given that their movement will tie directly into the game. In the end all that separates VR from real life are photons, sound waves, and a little tactile feedback.

cunnilumpkin3887d ago

just like there is ZERO reason or need for a 1080p tv for the ps3 or 360 since 99% of the games are all 720p or less (diablo 3 is 576p on ps3 and 360....lulz)

there is ZERO reason for any tv higher than 1080p for ps4 xbox1

99% of the games will be 1080p or less (many of them will be MUCH LESS than 1080p)

honestly you would be fine with 720p again next gen, most AAA ps4 and xbox1 games will NOT even be native 1080p

GamingTruth3887d ago

cunnilumpkin

wouldnt be hilarious to find out if late in the generation that the ps4 and xbox 1 were both upgradeable i would love to see how empty these sites would be of pc nerds and fanboys of pc then

Jazz41083886d ago

Since were of topic did anyone see microsoft purchased Nokia yesterday for 8 billiion? On topic this will be nice for the new 4 k tvs.

Baka-akaB3886d ago (Edited 3886d ago )

"just like there is ZERO reason or need for a 1080p tv for the ps3 or 360 since 99% of the games are all 720p or less (diablo 3 is 576p on ps3 and 360....lulz) "

There are big reasons to get one actually ... that would be the tv's quality itself . I wouldnt trust many 720p only screens to be as good for many things (like depth of black and colors , or refresh rate and input lag) to be better than some models at 1080p and soon above ..

Besides that 1% of games might be someone's favorite and good enough .

Finally , do you even know many people that solely game and can't use a 1080p screen for videos ?

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ironfist923886d ago

What the heck is Ultra HDTV?

ATi_Elite3886d ago

Yippie

$75 HDMI 2.0 cable to connect to a $10000 Monitor

:(

Seriously though 4K monitors are dropping in price but it's gonna be a year before they are mass production affordable.

wtopez3886d ago

Yup! Just a quick change to the .ini file and you're off. (decent upgrade required to the GPU though).

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GiantEnemyCrab3887d ago

Do the new consoles support this format?

yewles13887d ago

No, only 1.4a, no 4K/60 here...

Neixus3887d ago

This isn't compatible,i believe.
But the cable included in both ps4 and xbone supports 4k, only for videos and pictures though.

GiantEnemyCrab3887d ago

Thanks for the info. I didn't figure games would be pushing the 4K benchmark anytime soon on consoles.

DOMination-3887d ago

X1 will support 4k gaming, it's been confirmed many times (whether there will be any is another matter)

Stsonic3887d ago

A top end PC can hardly support 4k right now so good luck with that.

kneon3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

You won't be getting 4K games without HDMI 2.0 as 1.4 is limited to 24fps. That's too low for the majority of games.

But I don't recall either Microsoft or Sony saying what version of HDMI they are using. If I recall correctly the PS3 shipped only a few months after 1.3 as finalized so we may seem the same situation again.

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AbortMission3887d ago

You just went full r3tard, never go full r3tard Lol

Dasteru3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

No, it hasn't.

It has been confirmed that the X1 (aswell as the PS4) will support 4k resolution output, there has never been any official mention of it being for gaming though. So far it is only for movies/TV etc.

The XB1 wouldn't be able to play anything more than indies at that res and even then, the current HDMI 1.4 standard only supports 4k@24fps, no higher.

Rhaigun3887d ago

X1 can barely do 1080p at 60fps. How in the world would you expect it to do 4k?

wtopez3886d ago

@Conzul

I wish you would say such rubbish to Kingnichedrix in person and not behind a k/b and mouse. The punch to the face you would receive would make you a better person from that point on.

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AceBlazer133887d ago

o3o so.... what does this mean.

modesign3887d ago

a new HDMI cord that will be more expensive.

mushroomwig3887d ago

Not by much, it's still just a digital signal at the end of the day. You'd be an idiot if you paid more than £5 for one.

BISHOP-BRASIL3887d ago

If I understood this right, the cord itself won't change, the ports on hardware will in case they support HDMI 2.0.

GameSpawn3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

Of course. Just because of this you'll be assured $200 Monster HDMI 2.0 cables that are just re-branded $15 made in China HDMI 2.0 cables.

The savvy shopper will avoid the bloated cables as they always have. There is NO reason for any reasonable length (3ft-10ft) of HDMI 1.3, 1.4, or 2.0 cables to cost more than $20-25 for a quality cable.

I can understand $100+ on cables over 50ft as the gauge of the wire MUST get bigger (smaller number) to have the ability to carry the signal over a longer distance; thicker wires + longer wires = more metal (copper in this case) = more money (copper ain't cheap -- it's used in EVERYTHING; high demand high price).

Mario183887d ago

Featured on PS5 and XBox One 2

Supports up to 32 speakers. Okay who has 32 speakers in their house? I am being serious

Watch people connect it to their 20" tv screens and DVD player and rejoice about how much better it is than HDMI 1

SatanSki3887d ago

Yes, lets stop the progress

admiralvic3887d ago

"Supports up to 32 speakers. Okay who has 32 speakers in their house? I am being serious "

Who doesn't have 32 speakers?!

Anyway. A lot of these features are pointless to most people, but they still give you the option down the road or allow you more freedom than before. Like my boss has 9 speakers in his celling (they go to the Kitchen and are designed so you can stand anywhere and hear things perfecting), 2 large speakers next to the TV and a subwoofer. So this is 11 / 12 out of the possible 32. I am sure there are people with bigger houses, crazier dreams and more than enough money to make them work.

Same sort of logic with Xbox One supporting 8 controllers. Who is going to use this feature? Maybe 0.001% of all owners, but no sense in telling them no. Especially when people had an uproar about the Wii U only supporting 1 tablet (now it supports 2 I believe).

cell9893887d ago

I only have 7 and 2 sub woofers, enough for now

Campy da Camper3887d ago

Wait, the WiiU supports 2 tablets now?????

Zancruz3887d ago

@cell989 Nice, Im rocking 9 speakers and 2 subwoofers... Its never enough for me, i want to add 2 more Subs! :)

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SniperControl3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

THX set-ups in cinemas have over 40 speakers all around the room, even home THX set-ups can come with over 20 speaker channels.
However you are looking around £10000 for just the amp and around the same for top end speakers. Check this out.

http://gizmodo.com/353963/6...

This was setup by a sound engineer and cost $6 mil.

Deceiver_Of_The_Gods3887d ago

I agree with almost everything you say guys but...XBox One...2? Dont you mean XBox Two?

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 3h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle14h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188111h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio11h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning776h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga14h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7213m ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218313h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga12h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan7h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit47m ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus236h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv726h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica30m ago(Edited 29m ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10116h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos16h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-6h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac15h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10115h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic13h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead6h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

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thorstein1d 2h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno22h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k421h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson20h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu21h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson20h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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This Gigabyte GPU is now among the cheapest RTX 4090s on Amazon after a hefty deal

On Amazon, you can't get an RTX 4090 for less than this one from Gigabyte, which now offers great value after an eye-catching April deal.

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