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Microsoft’s recent handover to CIA a worry for Xbox and Xbox One Owners

Gadget Mill: You may have heard about or came across the news regarding whistle blower Edward Snowden, who recently leaked the fact that the US government has been spying and collecting data on pretty much everyone and still continue to do so. It was also claimed by Edward Snowden that the intelligence community is entirely focused on getting intelligence wherever possible and by any means necessary. This in fact is pretty much evident by the recent news stating how Microsoft literally handed the U.S, NSA, FBI and CIA access to encrypted user videos, audio and text communications. Which sounds like Microsoft have been giving access to services such as MSN, Windows Live Messenger, Skype and Telecommunications.

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B1663r4079d ago

Yes, but the x1 has more ram for games!

Insomnia_844079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

What?

LMAO!

1. Not true
2. Off topic?

The Xbros having their little moment with a rumor and assuming 5gbs of ddr3 for games is better than 5.5gb...no, wait, let me lower that and still not better than PS4... 4.5gbs of GDDR5 for GAMES according to the RUMOR. As a reference, 1GB of DDR3 (XB1) = 512MBs of GDDR5 (PS4) for games. So do the math and PS4 still comes on top if the RUMOR was true.

Sad pathetic blindfolded Xbox fanboys.Just look at that comment from corvusmd down there. What is Microsoft doing to this people's brains?

b00mFargl34079d ago

I believe he was just starting a fire. Not being serious. Flamebait to start a fanboy fight.

Bluepowerzz4079d ago

WHERE THE HELL WERE YOU SO MANY XBOTS ATTACKED ME WHEN I SAID SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE YOU SHOIULD HAVE HAD MY BACK

YNWA964079d ago

Very good comment imsomnia. PS4 is better spec'd, so was PS3. Sony do make some fine blu ray players. Thank goodness they have some fine 1st party studios or I would never play any games on it. Blind folded to me is someone who will not play great games because its on another system. Who cares who makes it. Does Sony suck you dry? Just play the games! I get the best of both worlds... I am not stupid, nor pathetic.

tuglu_pati4079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

I'll leave this right here for the those of you paranoiac ones

http://lajme24.org/?p=2411

deadlydragon1214079d ago

So the US government isn't spying on us and Edward Snowden is fake? Get over yourself.

blackmanone4079d ago

Tuglu, you understand that other companies use underhanded techniques to steal out information, an instead of vote with your wallet on underhanded tactics, you've thrown your hands into the air and said, "well if you can't be them, join them."

You have every right to do that. I'm not going to help them by introducing a camera in my living room.

tuglu_pati4079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

@deadlydragon121

Why so angry?

Im not saying they arent spying us. I just saying if they want to spy they'll do it, even if you don't own a X1. So I guess you should be the one getting over yourself.

@blackmanone

You don't have to, you already have one on your phone and probably on your computer also.

GrandTheftZamboni4079d ago

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they are not watching.

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fsydow14079d ago

Idiot,your brain needs more ram,lol.

PlayStation_44078d ago

You do realise that NO game within the first few years will require over 5.5 GB of RAM?
Sony doesn't need to give the extra RAM to devs, it would be pointless, so they are reserving 1.5GB of RAM for later use. If they find no use for it, it will go to the devs.

Also bare in mind that the PS4's OS footprint will continue to drop throughout its lifecycle.

PS3's OS footprint in 2007: 120 MB
PS3's OS footprint in 2012: 50 MB

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OC_MurphysLaw4079d ago

Not a worry for me at all. I am not a terrorist..therefore...I am not worried. :)

zerocrossing4079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

So you don't mind your personal information being exploited for corporate gain?

I'm sorry but I really think people should be more concerned about this :/

@BLKxSEPTEMBER

Of course I know my personal information is being collected elsewhere, it doesn't mean I have to like it. The difference with MS is that you'll be openly inviting these companies to collect information on you from directly within your home.

You want a spybox in your home while companies exploit you personal information, fine be my guest.

BLKxSEPTEMBER4079d ago

Why should we be concerned when it has been going on since cell phones and the internet existed? Don't try to act as if the gov was not already spying on us. If your not doing anything wrong then you won't even notice like you haven't so far

CrossingEden4079d ago

so wait, the government has been collecting info on people for years, (any smart person would've realized this eventually cause there's obviously a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes at the government, CIA, NSA, FBI etc., the world would probably be a lot worse off without the government) and now that one company MAY possibly do it, when btw sony has already done it before and probably still does
http://www.geek.com/games/p... but no no, let's ignore all that and constantly complain about microsoft so that we can fit in on the internet

user55757084079d ago

yea but it doesnt mean that we need yet another way for the government to spy on us

GameCents4079d ago

CIA is hardly doing it for corporate gain now is it?
Better my info with the authorities than in the hands of some hacker.

I honestly have zero problems with the government spying on me personally. I don't do much of interest.

BLKxSEPTEMBER4079d ago

Well guess what? That desktop,laptop,,tablet,or phone your using to reply to me on is most likely used to spy on you right now but your still using it ain't ya? So basically your willing to be spied in your home aswell. If you think the gov hasn't been doing this for years u need to wake up. I don't like it but if it keeps Americans safe from harm and not effect a innocent person they I'm all for it. I have nothing to hide

gcolley4077d ago

@BLKxSEPTEMBER - you don't get it. The bad guys are the ones with your info. To say you have nothing to hide and nothing to worry about is just plain stupid. They are the one's you need to be concerned about, not the other way around. This is not for anti-terrorism, there is no terrorism in the US, this is to watch and control you and every other innocent person in the country.

MS and Kinect takes it a step further by you happily placing a surveillance device in the center of your living room and then defending it. Get smarter! (while it is still an option).

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GribbleGrunger4079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

Of course, the only way that MS would know you are not a terrorist is if they gathered information on you. So what you are saying is 'I don't mind being spied on, I'm innocent.' Just think about that for a moment.

GameCents4079d ago

Thinking. . .still thinking. . .thinking still. . .
Nope, got no qualms with Uncle Sam or in my case, Uncles Zuma (south africa) keeping tabs on me. Why would I care?

gamesR4fun4079d ago

they define what a terrorist is and while you may not be one today tomorrow maybe anyone who like fps will be deemed a threat.
don't think so look at what they did to afganistan and Iran over 9/11 even tho they had nothing to do with it...
still they will keep getting away with it as long as people like you are in the majority.

RadioActiveTwinky4079d ago

This is just sad. To think people think like this.

This is the equivalent of a Gun nut giving up his gun rights, why because they believe in their government knows whats best for them.

With this kind of attitude this is no longer THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Its just another country giving in because they dont know how lucky we are/were to be here.

RadioActiveTwinky4079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

@Dlacy13g
If that was the case, then where were they during the Boston bombing. Especially if they have been "spying" on us for years. This is no form of safety this just a form to exploit us all.

Machiavellian4079d ago

The question would actually be, if the government spied more could they have prevented the Boston bombing. In other words, if the government monitored all cell phones, chats, social media could they have picked up on this event and prevented it. I am sure the government is thinking this exact thing and probably thinking about expanding their reach.

HiddenMission4079d ago

@dlacy13g and @BLKxSEPTEMBER

You two don't have kids do you. 1st off cell phones aren't pointed at your room...say your bedroom or even better your kids bedroom. So they can't just turn on the camera and watch what is going on. They might be able to remote on the mic but not really going to get much and the camera on a cell would be pointed either up at the ceiling or down on a surface.

With the Kinect it's a whole different story. If you don't put black tape over the lens and unplug it every time your not using it then it would be pointed at your bed or your kids bed. This means if some sick hacker or sick federal agent go the videos they could potentially watch your kids getting undressed.

So yeah you should care...!

GribbleGrunger4079d ago

I'm not one for extremes but that does make the point well.

OC_MurphysLaw4079d ago

first of all I do have a son. Secondly, xbox is in the living room..not the bedroom so not at all worried about someone watching any member of my family undress.

@RadioActiveTwinky "This is just sad. To think people think like this.

This is the equivalent of a Gun nut giving up his gun rights, why because they believe in their government knows whats best for them. "

Umm...dude its not even equivalent to that. I do want to see some legal parameter put on Govt. investigation but I don't on a broad stroke have an issue with it. We live in a very dangerous and evolving world where some seriously bad people are looking to do mass harm. I don't ever want a repeat of 9/11 if it can be avoided. That one day killed more people than all the Tornados in the US combined since 1980.

HiddenMission4079d ago

@Dlacy13g

So your fine with it because of location but many and I do mean many uninformed consumers will buy it for their kids and put it in there room.

It just blows me away that you are okay with this. Just because with live in bad times does not mean you give up your freedom and rights just because someone might be bad.

Remember it's innocent until proven guilty and by letting the federal government and MS illegally spy says that you don't care about your rights.

I'm Jewish and I know what your kind of thinking will lead to...this isn't a rant it's called look at facts and history and only a blind person would not be able to see what will come of this.

BLKxSEPTEMBER4079d ago

Are you serious? "Cell phones aren't pointed at my bedroom" I don't know what kind off cheap ads cell u have but my phone has a rear and front facing cam so yes its pointed everywhere! Im 100% sure that if the gov is spying on us I didn't start with kinect. You people are delusional if you think Kinect is the only way the gov will/ has been spying on us. Like I said it doesn't bother me because first I never seen proof that the gov is keeping tabs on me and second if they are then they must be disappointed...

HiddenMission4079d ago

@BLKxSEPTEMBER

You must be simple...when you put your phone down the cameras are either pointed up at ceiling or down at surface. Of course when you move they will be able to see more but when was the lasr time you changed clothes with your phone in your hand...duh you simple kid.

Snowden is proof that they have been keeping tabs on people...its called google use it. Yeah because the gov is going to come up to you specifically and say yeah we have been illigally monitoring you...really just really

All your logic is broken and beyond flawed...hell look at the lawsuites filled against MS, Skype and the fed for Project Prism...its ignorant cats like you that gov preys on...

Machiavellian4079d ago

Yeah, but your cell phone keeps everything about you. Who you talk to, who your family is, chat and phone calls, social media pages favorite links and web sites you like to go. Restaurants, it has a calendar that can show where you are and where you are going. It has a GPS that find you anywhere in the world.

If you are worried about someone hacking your router then use better encryption. If some random hacker out there is specifically targeting you they would need to be in your current neighbor hood intercepting your wifi, hack through its encryption (which is no small task for any average person) then turn your Kinect and X1 on and intercept the video.

I think its more likely that someone would just sneak into your home and rob you then something like that happening.

HiddenMission4078d ago

@Machiavellian

Wow just wow. You need to do your research because MS admitted that they can remote turn on your Kinect camera and mic record you and will provide the feed to the gov. MS has been exposed by the gov and Snowden as making it easy for the gov to remote all your digital activity using there products. Its been confirmed by law suites and documents that MS has already handed over over 30 thousand different peoples video feeds to the gov. These are facts and google can be done to verify.

Ignorance is bliss and you must be very happy right. Also a hacker doesnt need to hack your router they just need to hack MS and unless you have been living under a rock goverment agencies, banks and even top software companies have been hacked so you would have to be naive to think MS cant be hacked. That would giv hackers direct access to watchinv you in your home. These are all facts and not a stretch of the mind...nuff said

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blackmanone4079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

This mentality is what brings on a police state. You get what you deserve. Too bad people like this are going to drag us all down with them.

greenlantern28144078d ago

While I am no fan of Kinect just because I don't go in for the motion gaming gimmicks. The Kinect is actually spying on you, but only to learn how you use your Xbox1, to better market to you to know " hey Bill is in the room, he was playing forza last"
But if the FBI, NSA, CIA( which isn't suppose to operate in side the state's) or any other government agency wants your personal information you have much bigger problems to worry about.

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corvusmd4079d ago

See, XB1 also fights crime, where as Sony and their network is a breeding ground for Chinese hackers who steal all your information

dcj05244079d ago

Lol. I suppose china is responsible for every hack considering everything can be hacked.

corvusmd4079d ago

Great point, EVERYTHING can be hacked...

deadlydragon1214079d ago

I hope that was sarcasm.. Fighting crime? Really? They are hacking themselves and stealing your information yet claim it is to fight crime. Now if China do that too that would apparently be their reasons too. The person on the same side will see it as truth, and the person on the opposing side will see it as a lie. That is just how it is.

nick3094079d ago (Edited 4079d ago )

XboxBatman (its dark and fighting crime by what he said )XD

Blumpkin4079d ago

Wow, so now XB1 fan's are ignorant with console choice AND racist. Nice.

HiddenMission4079d ago

Don't know about racist but it's sure seems to me that XB1 fans are not ignorant but very naive to believe in what MS is doing even though documents and law suites have proven that they are doing illegal activity and so is the federal government. This is why they want Snowden back because he is airing out the dirty laundry on these cats...

Nuff said

blackmanone4079d ago

You're surprised? This is the COD generation. At least maybe this time they'll all adopt the same console.

supraking9514079d ago

LOL MS dropping the ball again, pretty soon everything will be revealed and MS is gonna have to answer for all there sins. A 180 wont work here people :P

CrossingEden4079d ago

http://www.geek.com/games/p...
microsoft is not the only one "spying" on their fans -_-

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Looks like someone needs a dictionary.

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Ubisoft Has Already Recouped the Money it Spent on Activision Cloud Gaming Rights

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Microsoft Reportedly Spends $1 Billion Annually To Get Third-Party Games On Game Pass

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Obscure_Observer5d ago

Good.

Now that you´re releasing games and making big money from every gaming platform, you should double that amount and give us even more day one third party games!

Jin_Sakai5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You’re delusional beyond belief. Businesses wise it doesn’t make sense and sooner or later they’ll be raising prices again to cover that billion they’re blowing every year.

outsider16244d ago

Lucky for xbox that papa microsoft is rich.

purple1015d ago (Edited 5d ago )

As someone else said earlier today, they are past the growth stage, it’s been stagnent for last 3 years, they are now in the money making stage, prepare to be goosed for as many dollars as possible for the least amount of content. It may not be bad now, (actually it is) but it will be soon (even worse) this year you got hellblade and starfirld and a load of other games that could be bought in bargain bins for about $5-30 and for that you pay them monthly

To add I honestly don’t know how you put up with the barrage of Xbox negativity (which is deserved). I put it down to:

A) you are being paid
B) you may have a problem thinking clearly
C) prefer rooting for the underdog, that’s a legit thing too. English people do it by default

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Yeah Aussies also love an underdog as long as that underdog isn't Xbox as they were too of the game with the 360 then lost their minds

Chevalier4d ago

3 straight years of missing Gamepass targets. Some people are just blinded by their own idiocy. Will be interesting to see if COD does anything this fall

CosmicTurtle4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

He is a troll. Designed to stoke people up on here. We know this.

It’s quite funny.

Popsicle4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Yet people still allow the troll to derail an entire topic. I don’t understand how moderation allows it.

I literally just skip the comment. This may be the best comment obscure ever made. I don’t know because I didn’t read it. I have read to many thread derailing post from this person to ever devote any time to reading another.

I wish everyone would ignore the trolls so we can have a genuine discussion. Stop feeding it and it will go away. Even just hitting the disagree button feeds it. Thats what it wants. This is the last post I will ever post about obscure because I am feeding them now.

Legit question to Mods. After such a long history of being a troll, how has this poster not been banned?

Profchaos4d ago

Is he though or does he just blindly love Xbox in the same way Sega fans loved the Dreamcast even though it was clearly dead they thought it could be redeemed

Ok yeah he's saracstic and does troll but I enjoy seeing what he comes out with it would be boring here if we never had conflicting opinions

Sonic18814d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Are you insane? You want them to double the amount when the Xbox is already struggling and losing money 🤔

Hofstaderman4d ago

Correction....XBOX is already dead.

Obscure_Observer4d ago

"Are you insane? You want them to double the amount when the Xbox is already struggling and losing money"

As long we get the games I couldn´t care less about a trillion dollar company losing money. That´s their business to worry about. I only care about the games.

And "struggling and losing money"? Really?

"Microsoft reports Xbox’s revenue is up 61% in Q4 FY24 thanks to Activision"

https://venturebeat.com/gam...

61% more revenue and BO6 is not even out yet.

MS will make a sh!t ton of money with that game alone in all platforms. So 2 Billion yearly invested in their *core* business is nothing!

So yeah, I want them to double the investments on Gamepass. Period.

Sonic18814d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"So yeah, I want them to double the investments on Gamepass. Period."

That ain't going to happen. Just because you want it 😂

fr0sty4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

They'll do that, after creating 4 more higher-priced tiers and making the one that currently includes everything only contain games that have been on the market for 4 years.

"Gamepass Ultra to the MAX: Now only $299 per year!"

MrNinosan3d ago

Already $240/year, so we're there within a year, without new tiers.

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It will be 29.99$ a month eventually 360 a year

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

They are trying to get a return on abk and Bethesda they won't double day one we're lucky we are still getting them now that day one has been removed from base tiers

They want to make money not give it away

OlderGamer174d ago

Sorry O_O, I tought you where loosing it, but i now come to the conclusion that you realy lost it.
The coping from you is not on a stellarr level....

Flakegriffin4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Homie got 77 dislike and his brain rot will still help him think that he’s right.

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MrDead5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I like how they twist cannibalising game sales into "invests".

No lifetime sales with MS, they'll F-up gaming the same as streaming services have done to the movie industry and it's workforce.

Fishy Fingers5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Out of interest do you think those 3rd parties signing the deal are unhappy with the severence and have a gun to their head?

Bro probably has a PS+ sub and has library full of Epic launcher free games.

TheNamelessOne4d ago

lol

Pretty much. There's a lot of hate on this site for Gamepass, but put games on the different tiers of the PS subscription, and whenever they get that free day one release, it's an entirely different tune. No talk about how this choice is killing devs.

DarXyde4d ago

Do we think they're unhappy?

Umm...YES...?

They literally need to be paid up front to put games on the service. It's become a way to gain a foothold on the platform.

Do you think Atlus would launch on Game Pass otherwise?

MrDead4d ago

"Out of interest do you think those 3rd parties signing the deal are unhappy with the severence and have a gun to their head?"

I think you mean severance... and I've noticed you don't know what it means either, MS aren't firing the third-parties they're purchasing from.

"Bro probably has a PS+ sub and has library full of Epic launcher free games."

I'm not a console gamer, but yes I do have Epic with a library full of free games... but guess what Epic rotating free games every week doesn't do. It doesn't destroy lifetime sales and cut workers out of residuals. Then you bring up PS+ a service that also doesn't destroy lifetime sales as their model allows for new releases to earn.

DivineHand1254d ago

There are pros and cons to everything. Streaming services like Netflix is no different than cable tv except it is on demand. Services like Netflix has made it so that more studios can get a share in the profit where they can reach more consumers worldwide compared to the old days where the masses will only watch a few new titles per month.

The only negative about streaming services is that it no longer makes any sense to sell DVDs and Blu-rays though it can be argued that those persons may have moved on to building digital libraries for the sake of convenience.

The reason Xbox is doing so poorly is because they are not doing enough to be competitive. Their output of AA and AAA exclusive titles are extremely low compared to the competition and they haven't had a game of the year nominee in years.

Releasing their games the same date on PC is also hurting their console and it would have been more strategic for them to delay those releases by a year similar to what Sony does to maximize profits.

Gamepass alone is not to blame for Xbox's current position because it can be argued that if the service didn't exist and they had the same gaming output as they have now, they would be in an even worst spot.

MrDead4d ago

"Streaming services like Netflix is no different than cable tv except it is on demand."

It's nothing like cable. My comment isn't a guess lifetime sale of films has shrunk to a point it's almost gone and so has the revenue it generated, that is money from competing TV networks, cable/satellite and physical media sales.

Lack of revenue transparency with streaming has meant workers job security and pay has massively diminished, earnings from residuals is almost gone for example the writer for Squid Games because of streaming gets no royalties despite series earning $900 million for Netflix, before streaming he would have royalties form lifetime sales.
Or another example Willow the series was pulled and is no longer watchable here's why: “Willow” was one of nearly 50 titles that Disney+ pulled from its streaming library in May. Other titles included the series “The Mysterious Benedict Society” and the feature film “The One and Only Ivan.” Disney CFO Christine McCarthy explained that Disney was expecting to take a write-down in the June quarter of $1.5 billion-$1.8 billion by removing content from its streaming platforms. By writing down the value of the content assets, Disney can remove that from its balance sheet and reduce its tax bill." Also when you pull a show you no longer need to pay residuals to the workers.

Have you also noticed the drop in quality on sfx or thought some older films look so much better then they do now? This is because the industry now relies on cheap labour for sfx outsourcing abroad, more green screen instead of location shooting and a lot less real extras bring life to a scene.

Streaming in gaming is going to be far worse as we've seen with MS consolidating a massive part of the industry to try and make the service sustainable, lifetime sales being cannibalised by gamespass and a work force that has no unions like SAG is already paying the price.

All streaming does is remove income transparency, cuts the workers from the money and sets flat rates and removes consumer ownership... but CEO's and shareholders will still be ok as they benefit from the industry consolidation.

Huey_My_D_Long4d ago

MrDead is absolutely on fire with the post.

Nothing else I have to add other than that.

DivineHand1254d ago

@MrDead like I said pros and cons. Some of those issues can alleviated with alleviated with regulatory intervention to give more transparency to the industry but unlikely anytime soon with all the lobbying going on.

The issue with the squid game's writer can be attributed to the terms and conditions he agreed to. It happens often in business as no one really knows how popular something will be until you catch that lightning in a bottle. I remember reading about how Nintendo hardly made anything off Pokemon Go dispite Niantic making Billions.

I don't blame streaming services for studios finding was to reduce the cost of making films. That stuff would have happened regardless because of the greed of these corporations. We see that same cost reduction happening in every industry from food to Aerospace.

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@badz148 its not, it just straight lied.

gold_drake4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

we know this, we have known this since last year.

this is not new or news.

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Report: Microsoft Cutting 650 More Jobs From Gaming Division Per Phil Spencer's Letter to Employees

Phil Spencer has sent a letter out to employees informing them that 650 jobs would be cut from Microsoft's gaming division.

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VenomUK13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

‘Good guy Phil’?

The truth likely is that the decision was not his to make and is possibly a direct consequence of cutting costs following the ABK deal.

XiNatsuDragnel13d ago

Lol good guy Phil lmfao crazy

DodoDojo13d ago

Would be nice if he'd mail one of those letters to himself.

RhinoGamer8813d ago

Cut costs -> no bonus, stock options, raises for Phil and his leadership team.

Lightning7713d ago

"Good guy Phil" is comical. You have to bleed green to see that. I'm only a matter of time until MS, that's right MS even in ages themselves from the industry.

Sad, people and even sadder and pathetic company.

fr0sty13d ago

If they keep this up, they won't even be able to go third party anymore after they stop making Xbox hardware.

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Petebloodyonion13d ago

The original story is from IGN as they are the ones who got the memo.
https://www.ign.com/article...

Still sucks!

badboyz0913d ago

The day we hear that Xbox is no more is vastly approaching.

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Obscure_Observer13d ago

"The day we hear that Xbox is no more is vastly approaching."

Not sure Sony is doing any better with all that money lost on GaaS and all that worldwide backlash regarding the Pro.

1Victor13d ago

@obscured: “ Not sure Sony is doing any better with all that money lost on GaaS and all that worldwide backlash regarding the Pro.”
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Welcome back we missed you said no one 🤣

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I don’t remember Sony cutting over 1900 employees then Less than 7 months later get a leak for another 600 to be on the chopping board but hey let’s equate that to a few people not been happy about a mid gen system refresh price 🤦🏿.

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1Victor13d ago

@obscured: “
They also casually forget that Sony have been laying off thousands of people too”
Yeeesh I got a better help discount code for you

BehindTheRows13d ago

Uh, thr Pro "backlash" is hardly something that's going to tank their business. Unless you've been living under a rock, there's no question that Xbox is in the gutter.

Quit pivoting to Sony because you don't like the subject matter. Their game division isn't in the toilet.

DodoDojo13d ago

Well Sony isn't selling more copies of their games on a rival system yet so they must be doing alright.

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Mr_cheese12d ago

@obscure

Saves some straws for the rest of us will you

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343_Guilty_Spark12d ago

Vastly approaching is a weird phrase… vastly is typically used to convey the degree of some size or length or time.

Vastly approaching makes no sense.

You mean rapidly approaching.

MrDead13d ago

A combined $80 billion spent on consolidating a massive part of the industry, thousands fired all to line the pockets of the already wealthy and turn the gaming industry into a rental service.

FU MS.

crazyCoconuts13d ago

MS is a publicly traded company. If you have a 401K you yourself might own MS stocks.
I'm definitely not a MS fan, but CEOs need to keep returns high to keep their jobs if nothing else. They don't get to transfer the salaries to their accounts.
I blame MS for failed strategies, poor execution, lack of vision, etc.
These layoffs are just the result of those things.

MrDead13d ago

That's the weakest excuse for a giant monopoly I've ever seen... also companies like MS are more likely to damage people's 401k through monopolistic practices.

Obscure_Observer13d ago

"FU MS."

I love how you act all enraged and bully when it´s MS firing people.

"It´s all about the workers" at least they´re Sony´s employees, right? If they´re Sony they can go f* themselves right? It´s all justified and the blame lies elsewhere on some widespread industry problem, right? Right?

We been seeing some of Sony recent bs moves and you know what´s coming, right?

I´m expecting you to disappear the same way you do every time Sony layoff hundreds of people or get a whole studio shut down.

You´ll do anything to avoid and hold them accountable. But that's OK. You´are not biased, right?

1Victor13d ago

@obscured: “ "It´s all about the workers" at least they´re Sony´s employees, right? If they´re Sony they can go f* themselves right? It´s all justified and the blame lies elsewhere on some widespread industry problem, right? Right?”

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Well Sony didn’t overreached and spend over 80 BILLION$ to acquire mayor 3rd party game developers and one MAYOR publisher the owner of the BIGGEST FPS just hoping to keeping it exclusive to their system and now having to fire thousands of employees to valance their books one more quarter.
Now Microsoft is beginning and going to kiss Sony dark ring and publish their “first party games “ on PlayStation. Regardless of who it is it’s wrong to do an acquisition and then fire people.
I applaud Microsoft for at least giving them a severance package and assistance getting a new job 👍👍.

MrDead13d ago

Chill out kid... also why bring up Sony, have they just spent 80 billion to consolidate a massive part of the industry to the detriment of thousands of workers?

MS lines their pockets whilst firing thousands, such a shame you support this.

Chevalier13d ago

Gee someone here said Xbox would NEVER release 1st party games on Playstation or competing platforms again?! Never tired to see you eat crow again.

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OlderGamer1712d ago

But but Sony bad...thats the normal damagecontroll from O_O. Dude its time to sing another song, this one is sounding like a broken record......

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LG_Fox_Brazil13d ago

Not sure about the rest of the world, but here in Brazil we have a say that goes like this:

'May the last one to leave please turn off the lights'

What the heck is MS even doing right now?

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