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Multiplatform Games will look better on PS4

Multiplatform games always looked better on XBOX 360 and even PS3 fans can’t deny the fact. Cell processor in PlayStation 3 was very complicated and was not easy to develop on as a result XBOX 360 became the first choice for developers, we witnessed some really bad PS3 ports like Bayonetta, Skyrim, Half Life and not to mention games often get delayed due to the complications in development. Well those days are not going to last much long as Sony is going to release Playstation 4

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SlavisH24053d ago (Edited 4053d ago )

We know nothing about the next xbox, not even its name. We could wait for ...um some specs or ...um a annoncement but your way is more logical :P

P.S. I don't care about rumors they are rumors!

iGAM3R-VIII4053d ago

I do have to agree, when E3 comes and both systems launch and we get a clear answer we will see, but based on all of the things Cerney said about its infastructure and it is easy to develop and PC like, the games could be easier.

When E3 is here all shall be told....

miyamoto4052d ago

The article really did not nail why PS4 multi-plats will look better on PS4 than next Xbox.
and there was no point of comparison.

IMHO opinion if PS4 is easy and faster to make games on it will be the saved development time and developers talent that will be huge factors on how PS4 games will looks better than the competition.

Muffins12234053d ago

Yes we do,the leaked specs.We know they are true due to the fact Microsoft got the fbi to raid his house for it.Not only that, all indie developers are going towards the ps4 and not the next xbox because its easier to develop for and if its easier to develop for then games will generally look better on better hardware and easier to develop for hardware.And guess what...sony has both of those advantages.

iGAM3R-VIII4053d ago

Yes totally agree, I have a feeling about the PS4 this year :)

Oh_Yeah4053d ago (Edited 4053d ago )

Except your forgetting Xbox uses direct x while PS4 uses a variant of OpenGL... Most devs prefer direct x...hence why xbox was the lead platform for most multiplat games.. I see it going the same way next gen. ALTHOUGH since PS4 has a x86 architecture it is easier to port to.. So I expect even if xbox is leading platform again that it now truly depends on who has the best hardware to determine which version of a game will look/perform better.

raytraceme4053d ago

Well valve and a lot of other devs are taking initiative to move into linux gaming (steam big picture) thus requiring the switch to OpenGL. The ps4 has that advantage thus it will be even game in terms of lead platforms.

Oh_Yeah4053d ago (Edited 4053d ago )

@raytraceme yeah hopefully devs do start using OpenGL more..I don't think I'm buying the next xbox from what I've been hearing..so I'd like if PS4 is lead platform more next gen. And funny how if you say anything positive about xbox on this site you get disagrees out the ass lol. I bash on the xbox too.. Go through my comments but I also am not a fan boy, I know xbox shined over ps3 when it came to multiplat games..that was it though and it'd kinda suck if that happened again...because Microsoft isn't exactly about the gamers.

dcbronco4052d ago

Both consoles are rumored to use the same GPU and CPU but one will be easier to program for. If that is the case it will most likely be the Xbox. Because of DX11 and MS is better at tools than Sony. No one can honestly argue tools.

And fanboys believe every bad Xbox rumor but none that would make it better. Leak after leak shows dual GPUs on the next Xbox. SuperDAE said the Xbox was better. Why don't these people believe him on that. The only leaks we know that are accurate are the ones we know came from within MS. Their lawyers tried to stop that leak. And that shows dual GPU and 3 CPUs that make the XBox a more powerful machine.

If we're going to believe rumors.

ichimaru4052d ago (Edited 4052d ago )

I wouldn't bet the kitchen sink on leaked specs from a year old model, its not profitable. both ps3 and the 360 underwent various models and hardware changes before the.final product.a complete yr is a long time for better judgement and Innovation

dcbronco4052d ago (Edited 4052d ago )

I think people that believe these consoles are going to be extremely expensive to make are thinking retail prices. The leaks show one of the chips or both being ARM chips. In that case you're talking about really cheap chips. The SoC in the iPad 2 cost Apple $15 each. AMD chips will be more. But not nearly as much as what it cost for a separate CPU and GPU at 90nm. These are APUs at 28nm.

The huge cost savings on thew 360 and PS3 after launch come mainly from going from 90nm to 45 nm. The 360 going to an APU lower that price even more.

But I agree on the various models. There have been a lot of different leaks about the 720 specs. That's why no one really knows what it will contain.

cyhm31124052d ago

+1
Those who says we have to wait until they reveal the xbox to know the specs are just like those people who doesn't admit their wives cheating on them unless they tell them so even they saw two of them hugging each other in a dark place. obvious is obvious, some people just don't have any clue. You don't need to draw intestines of a cartoon character, do you?

CraigandDayDay4052d ago

" The PS4 sees Sony move to a 64-bit x86 chip architecture, which will be music to the ears of developers, especially those used to working on PC games. The good news doesn’t stop there, though. Developers will be able to take advantage of Microsoft’s latest industry standard DirectX API — DirectX 11.1, but Sony has taken the time to improve upon it, pushing the feature set beyond what is available for PC games development. "

http://www.geek.com/games/s...

Sony will use DirectX as well in the PS4.

dcbronco4052d ago

@cyhm3112

While Sony has had one leak on the PS4 as far as architecture(a couple of potential GPUs), the 720 has had a lot of them. Since their have been so many we don't know about the 720. It could be any combination of the things we've heard and some things we haven't.

Read the forums on NeoGaf and Beyond 3D and they are talking about a lot of things I've never read a thing about on N4G. They don't believe the 720 will have DDR3. Because of some of previous leaks make it not fit with the architecture. Many there believe it will be DDR4. Which has a larger bandwidth.

http://wccftech.com/amd-kav...

So we really don't know what the 720 will have. We really don't know the PS4 either since Sony stated the specs aren't set.

JP13694052d ago (Edited 4052d ago )

dcbronco

I'm on GAF quite a bit and the only people I see speculating about the 720's RAM are desperate fanboys that don't want to believe that their console of choice might be underpowered relative to the PS4. The only thing we know so far is that VGLeaks proved themselves reputable with respect to the Vita and now PS4. The documentation they have on the successor to the 360 - which is something in the range of 90 pages - points to said machine using the came CPU and a weaker GPU than PS4, tied together with DDR3 RAM. If true, the system is going to be weaker than its direct competition, regardless of move engines or secret sauce.

Edit: There was far more than just one leak in regard to PS4. Either you have a terrible memory or you're engaged in some mental gymnastics. There were rumors of dual APU, APU+GPU and finally the current set up, just with different CPUs and GPUs being swapped in and out.

dcbronco4051d ago

@JP1369

Let's VGleaks has been accurate. About which Durango rumors since there have been many? I mean specs wise. Is it about two APUs and a BC chip? Is it when SuperDAE said the Durango was better? SuperDAE seems to be the main source. Funny Sony fans ignore that he said that Durango was better. Well, not really.

We know what Sony has said on the PS4. Though they said that the specs aren't set. There have been rumors that the 720 GPU will be far more efficient than normal GPUs making the consoles about the same. I refuse to trust the opinion of anyone(not saying you) that only believes rumors from one side. Only a fool does that.

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DigitalRaptor4053d ago

Digital Foundry will be on the case.

Not just that, but the developers will tell us, just like they told us how problematic PS3 was to develop for.

Since we've already heard how vocal some of them have been about MS/Sony next gen situation, they will be sure to let us know.

JaredH4052d ago (Edited 4052d ago )

I agree. Even if there is a difference it will be like last gen where some games will run and look marginally better on one console over the other. People will most likely not even notice the differences. Those who frequent the websites that exploit fanboy ideals will though.

Monstar4052d ago

stop using the tougue pocking emoticon to try and get more likes.

indysurfn4052d ago

First I will get this out of the way. This article IS biased! You can see it with statements like JUST more bells and whistle! But don't apply the same 'JUST' attitude to a AMD chip that is also x86 from laptops, and PC's. But that is the old me taking objection.

I want PS4 to win this Generation. Not just because Microsoft is testing our reaction to having access to my living room with a camera at all times. Not just because Microsoft is testing our reaction to blocking used games(using internet validation), because after all not too long ago so did Sony. But because Microsoft is testing it for the 3rd year in a row, and are desperate for it to be acceptable. I think they don't want to believe our previous reactions. And are emboldened by the few people that are blindly supporting them, like the PS2 fanboys did on paying a lot for the PS3. We need to stand up to them let us not be like the PS2 fanfools($600 console, $2000 on ebay), and get what we said we would put up with. Let us be the smart ones. I'm begging all this easy to develop for talk will be true this time! Yeah I know I'm saying rough things to both sides, and will get 100% disagrees. It is worth it!

xXxSeTTriPxXx4052d ago

Duh he read this from a fortune cookie, get with the times bro.baseless analysis is the new logic jezz.

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ilikecookies4052d ago

This must be some high school kids English project. This is so horribly written and not even news it just tells us what we already know. Move along now nothing to see here.

nthstew4052d ago

don't really care about next xbox any more with 3 or 4 exclusive and Kinect I don't give a shit.

P.S PlayStation 4 for me. If the hardware is more efficient than xbox definitely it will have better visuals #deal with it.. :0

Psn8004052d ago

He isn't talking about next gen consoles ?

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Hellsvacancy4053d ago (Edited 4053d ago )

I remember reading that developers had to sign an agreement with MS that no PS3 multiplatform game can look any better than the 360 version, was that true?

I swear I read that somewhere

If its true, I hope it dont happen again

Byeka4053d ago

nope. Due to the complicated architecture PS3 had development on PS3 required a lot of time and resource which no one was ready to invest as that didn't really effect the sales and profits much So most of the ports turn out to be pretty bad.

AAWELLS094053d ago

Has Microsoft already revealed the 720 to you? How did you get this inside information? If you dont have some secret info that noone else has than you're gonna look really stupid.

Minato-Namikaze4052d ago

MS did have a anti competition policy. It's the reason why ps exclusives don't come to the 360 later. MS protected their inferior system, if not then maybe more MP titles would be near the 1st party titles of sony.

DOMination-4052d ago

Sony have the exact same policy regarding ex. Timed exclusives.

Nitrowolf24053d ago (Edited 4053d ago )

The agreement was that Developers had to agree to publish their games at the same time if it was a PSN/XBLA otherwise MS can pretty much deny it.

For on disc games they had to have the same content, or they can deny that to, which honestly they really havn't from what we've seen.

You are correct though as even some publishers have felt that.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"Not all agree, however. One representative from a publisher who wished to remain anonymous told Eurogamer Microsoft's policy blocks developers from taking advantage of other platforms' strengths.

"Microsoft is suggesting that anything but parity will result in them not carrying a title. They may think this is competitive, but it's not. They are killing any creative exposure of titles to make up for their own platform's shortcomings."

M2-4053d ago

You do realize that, that is MS's XBLA policy? Basically it means MS can refuse to "publish" XBLA games if the game is not equal to other platforms (content) or is released on other platforms first. It doesn't mean MS will block the game from XBLA it means they will not publish it.

Nitrowolf24053d ago (Edited 4053d ago )

That's what I just said -_-

The part about blocking isn't about MS blobking the game, it's blocking developers from taking advantage of other hardware out there.

A policy is pretty much an agreement, they are guildlines that must be meet.

M2-4053d ago

@Nitrowolf2

That policy is regarding downloadable games. The quote you posted is referring to the XBLA platform, it's not referring to hardware.

Oh_Yeah4052d ago

Kind of, it was a contract saying that if there were any missing features or they decided to release a game at a later date on the xbox 360 that Microsoft has a right and may refuse the game entirely.

BrianC62344053d ago

I hope this is true but we all know the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 so why don't they make their PS3 games look like Sony's PS3 games look? Do they want to help Microsoft? There's no reason to not push the PS3 harder than they do now.

pete0074052d ago

PS3 more powerfull? Just Like a top Ferrari With no tyres. The gpu was crap, 360 gpu was Way better. Cell was stronger but a cpu still a cpu.
Now go search better excuses, a PS3 game costs 3 Times To develop than a 360 one

BrianC62344052d ago

Yes, the PS3 is a lot more powerful. The GPU doesn't even matter. The Cell processor can handle a lot of what the GPU would do. For proof the PS3 is more powerful you just have to look at Sony's first party games. They're always better than everything else.

Gamer-404053d ago

Yes, i think this true, Ps4 better and powerful hardware than new Xbox.

I dont understand why make this Microsoft:S

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What Will The PlayStation 6 Look Like?

While we haven't even begun to tap into the full potential of the PS5, fans are already beginning to talk about what Sony's next console, the PlayStation 6, will look like and what features it will have.

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Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“While we haven't even begun to tap into the full potential of the PS5“

We always here this statement yet we have plenty of games that struggle to run at solid frame rates or decent resolutions.

Skuletor1d 22h ago

The developers should know the limits of these consoles, especially this far into the gen. I'd blame them and possibly the publishers, pushing to make games as visually appealing as possible at the cost of resolution and frame rate, which is nothing new in the industry.

franwex1d ago

I may skip next gen altogether probably. We will see.

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Diablo IV is Available on PlayStation Cloud Gaming - Beats Xbox to the Punch

Diablo IV is now available to play via PlayStation Cloud Gaming! Still not available to Play on Xbox Cloud Gaming.

We ran our script again and found 15 other PS5 games (a lot of popular ones!) that got PS5 Cloud Gaming support within the last month as well.

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Hugodastrevas5d ago

Not for me, I'm 100% physical media all of the time.

jwillj2k44d ago

I hate that I have to keep calling this out, but your physical disks mean nothing if the game code attempts to connect to a server prior to playing.

Hugodastrevas4d ago

And that happens when? I'm playing completely offline here, stellar Blade to be more precise.
I'm sorry but I've never run into that imaginary problem you're talking about, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it has never happened to me.

jwillj2k44d ago

You not running into the problem yet has no bearing on my argument. You’re acting like the medium is the shield for you being able to always play your games when it effectively is not. The game code itself can try to connect to a server or the console you’re playing on may receive an update that requires that game to connect to a server. Just because you haven’t ran into it doesn’t mean anything lol you don’t own your games no matter how you try.

Hugodastrevas4d ago

So I have never run into the problem you're talking about and your answer is an hypothetical? Look I can play any game of my library offline right now without issue.
That issue is in your mouth and alone.

Crows904d ago

Actually...there's an easy way...don't connect. If it doesn't require a connection and you don't connect...the code can't update...obviously....confused why you don't get what he's saying.

outsider16244d ago

Hold on..lets say i dnt have an online connection, can i atleast play the game offline though. Was thinking of getting this

jwillj2k44d ago

None of you use your brains.

OK, let’s explore this playing offline. not talking about Diablo specifically just gaming in general.

Are you going to buy two PlayStations? One offline one online? If not, moment you want to play something that requires a connection you’re cooked.

Does game experience you love so much stay the same offline?

Is the game even playable offline?

The whole point of my argument is that we don’t hold the keys anymore. The gatekeepers are the developers and console makers regardless of whether it’s digital or physical. You altering your play style for a lesser experience is not a workaround, it doesn’t solve the overall problem.

None of this matters since the move to the cloud is inevitable.

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spicelicka4d ago

So you have to buy the game and can only stream to the PS5 devices using PS plus premium? What is the point of that. Much more useful when you can stream to other devices.

MrNinosan4d ago

Works great on my Portal while at work 👍

spicelicka4d ago

That's streaming off your PS5, not from the cloud. This is specifically referring to cloud gaming.

CrimsonWing694d ago

Can’t you, uh, do this on your phone?

Tacoboto4d ago

Sony doesn't yet have a web or app-based solution to stream games off their cloud service, the closest you may be able to get would be Remote Play if they allow cloud streaming during a Remote session.

And yes this applies to the Portal too.

Einhander19724d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Tacoboto

Please stop talking about PlayStation Streaming, you don't know what you're talking about.

I just explained this to you the other day where you were telling people that remote play was their only cloud solution, because apparently you didn't understand how PlayStation Premium works even though PS Now was a thing since shortly after the launch PS4..

You can stream to PC and Mac, and they had mobile clients for it in the past but probably for the same reason Microsoft is fighting Apple and Google PS Now wasn't allowed on App stores. Which is why it's not on iPhone and Android still.

And to be honest, I am glad they are trying to keep it on the console, all their moves away from the console seem like a step in the wrong direction, which isn't working so great for Microsoft...

anast4d ago

Blizzard is shoving this game everywhere. Diablo 4 is going to take an even bigger hit soon. Path of exile 2 is coming out and it looks insane.

Crows904d ago

Well they're about to release the next season...I think that might be way they're pushing the game again.

anast4d ago

I mean I get what you are saying, but D4 isn't doing that well either.

UnbreakableAlex4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I completed it on gamepass. Thanks God I dint pay it full price. It plays like a lazy mobile game. I am not a pro diablo gamer (Diablo 1 was the only one I completed) but D4 has no atmosphere, no creepy feeling and soundtrack like the first one and its so easy, I managed to not buy any weapon and had 4 Million Credits on level 55. I always used the same 4 attacks from the beginning and died maybe 10-15 times. It's so easy, wtf. I remember D1 to be pretty hard.
WTF happened? Is Diablo 3 also that bad?

jwillj2k44d ago

Diablo 3 was my first Diablo game. I had to use the mailbox cheats to keep it interesting.

Crows904d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Diablo 3 was really hard at launch....then they made it easy.

They love scaling difficulty though.

anast4d ago

D2 is the pinnacle. I still fire it up from time to time.

GrmpyolGamer 4d ago

Considering that the PS cloud steaming is garbage compared to XCloud and is limited to certain devices this isn't something to brag about. Wake me up when Diablo is on PS plus

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers16d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken15d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g16d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing16d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H916d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola15d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66916d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle16d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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