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Expect slow adoption of all three consoles next generation

"EA CFO Blake Jorgensen has said that the development cost per game could be five to ten per cent higher on PS4 than its current-gen systems. Today, we are living in an age where games have to sell 2 million to 5 million units (depending on the game’s overall budget). Who can forget when EA’s Labels president Frank Gibeau said Dead Space 3 needed to sell around around five million to continue to investing in an IP like Dead Space.
Today’s games struggle to break even with two to five million copies on 360 (76 million units worldwide) and PS3 (77 million units worldwide) which is a total of 153 million units worldwide. Think about that. You’re struggling to sell 3 million games to an install base of 153 million consoles sold. That means they are failing to sell their game to 2% of 360/PS3′s combined install bases. What chance is there to break even on brand new consoles (Xbox 720, PS4, Wii U) with install bases that are starting from scratch with 5-10% added to next gen development costs?", writes NotEnoughShaders.

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CouldHaveYelledUiiW4497d ago (Edited 4497d ago )

@E. Rogers
"Note: I took some advice from my brother at my father’s funeral this week. He advised me to go back to writing again full time. This is my first article in 3 months so I’m a little rusty."

Sorry for your loss.
Your brother was right and if that is you rusty, then the other journalist are in trouble. "Excellent" and "Yes" Vote for site.

Besides me quibbling about your WiiU categorization -
I have to say I agree with most of the things you have to say.

I think this slow trend that we see on the WiiU will be fate for Microsoft and Sony too.

If for nothing else the COST of these systems are going to be more than most (humans) want to immediately spend in the current global economy.

ravinash4497d ago

Hang on, with the more PC like programming for the PS4, won't the dev cost go down from the PS3???

CouldHaveYelledUiiW4497d ago (Edited 4497d ago )

Good Point,

(I Agreed due to the "good point")

But it remains to be seen.

1 You also have to factor in more details and more DPi for HD. that takes extra man power and time too.

2 Adoption rates for next gen. Some people forecast low across the board. If this is true then like Ubisoft said all games will be ports- who knows how they will fair cross 3 or 4 Plats.
-And it cost money and time.

Time(can)=$

zeal0us4497d ago

If anything like last time I expect MS to end support of the 360 soon as they release the next Xbox.

Given Sony in the past they will continue to support the PS3 but probably not as long as they did with the PS2.

Ouya is really just a niche product so I wouldn't call it a console. There are plenty of android products that do similar things like Ouya, just with less indie support.

Steam Box falls in the same category as Ouya,niche product. I don't see a lot of hardcore PC gamers picking this up especially if they are fine with their PC. Not only that but it will run Linux. Nothing bad/wrong with Linux except the number of Steam games support Linux is quite small. Sure the number linux steam users went .9% to 2% recently but the number of games that support linux hasn't rise.

bluetoto4496d ago

"I don't see a lot of hardcore PC gamers picking this up especially if they are fine with their PC."

It's not for hardcore PC users, it's for console gamers like me who want to move on to PC gaming with the same ease of console gaming. It will be huge for millions of us that like to play games, not systems.

Intentions4497d ago

Hmm, dunno about most people, but for me, I'm def going to be one of em slow adopters of next-gen.

whoyouwit044497d ago

I will be so so I will by one early but not day one early, I'm going to wait a few months to see what problems they have.

caseh4497d ago

Depends on the launch lineup for me, i'll be after a PS4 so if Killzone and Infamous at least make the launch i'll be an early adopter.

The lack of titles on PS3 at launch held me off buying one for e a good 6 months until I saw the release date for MGS4

PS4isKing_824497d ago (Edited 4497d ago )

This slow adoption with the wiiU is easy to see. There aren't any games on it since launch that are worth playing and plus its still seen as inferior to the other next gen consoles coming out. Ps4 will have a much more steady stream of releases during and after launch. Nintendo just utterly failed with their scheduling of the wiiU and future releases. They should Have waited longer until more games were ready. Cause full price ports of 6 month old games isn't gunna cut it.

Good_Guy_Jamal4497d ago

Price. If it is right, from the start then I'm in. Otherwise I still got a massive ps3 backlog I need to go thru and since PS4 doesn't play ps3 games I won't be upgrading anytime soon

mcstorm4497d ago

I agree with you. I normally get a new console on day one. I got the WiiU on day one but I now have a big back log of games I want to get through on the PS3, 360, PSV 3DS and WiiU.

Just at the end of last year I got Halo 4, Forza Horizon, MarioU, ZombieU, COD BO2, Tekken Tag 2, Sonic All Star, Nike + Kinect, PSASBR, UC3 and Nintendo Land, NFS MW, AC on the PSV and Fifa 13.

I am yet to finish any of them. I'm near the End of Forza Horizon, MarioU and NFS MW but that's it. I also have Luigi's Mansion 2, Lego City and Pickmin 3 on pre order to so I have decided im going to get through all these games before even looking at a new console or even pre ordering any games.

I think the PS4 and Next Xbox sales will be around the same as the WiiU at this point next year but 12 to 18 months in the console sales will start to pickup.

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"Leaked and Vanished" A New The First Descendant Season 3 Trailer Briefly Breaks Cover

A new Season 3 trailer has accidentally been leaked and removed, but The First Descendant fans have managed to share it with the community.

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Ten Years Later - Still Going Strong: Dying Light: Retouched Update Releasing June 26

Hey Survivors! Tymon here, your favorite Dying Light Franchise Director.

It's been an absolutely wild month here at Techland! We're in the thick of what I'm calling the "Summer of Dying Light," delivering updates and big news across all three Dying Light games. Just a few weeks ago, we dropped the first gameplay for Dying Light: The Beast, revealed its release date, and kicked off pre-orders (if you haven't seen it, check out my last dev blog). I'm incredibly proud of what we're building with The Beast - it’s the culmination of more than 10 years of experience in open-world survival horror!

But here's the thing: we never forget where we came from. That's why, this week, we're not just looking forward - we're rolling out significant updates for both the original Dying Light and Dying Light 2: Stay Human. We promised to support our games for a long time, and we're committed to continuing that support, right through and beyond the launch of Dying Light: The Beast.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils18h ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent751h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

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isarai1d 22h ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning771d 19h ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher22h ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor21h ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde20h ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z9h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey864h ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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