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PlayStation 4 CPU runs at 2 GHz: rumor

"The AMD-made PlayStation 4 CPU will be clocked at 2 GHz and built on 28 nm process at GlobalFoundries in New York." - PS4Daily

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stuna14133d ago

If true, my body will definately be ready! I would think that would be a nice little bump, with 28nm chips = less heat.

Dylila4133d ago (Edited 4133d ago )

if true i like it even though i dont know what it means other than being a higher number. as long as it is something that suppose to make the ps4 better im all for it. from what i saw at the ps4 announcement im very excited and amazed so being a better system will enable this system to even push technological boundaries more.

the ps4 displayed better tech ive seen in crysis 3 on pc at very high settings so getting higher specs after what weve seen on lower spec is awesome. ps4 first day

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

i useto be amazed by project cars and crysis 3 and even upgraded my pc to run them but ps4 makes it all seem worthless or unnecessary for my needs.

GiggMan4133d ago

"if true i like it even though i dont know what it means other than being a higher number"

Lol I love your honesty. Are you same person that was so "enlightening" on this article?

http://n4g.com/news/1181637...

MAJ0R4133d ago

2GHz is a fairly low clock speed. My PC from four years ago runs 1000MHz faster. Although it only has 4 cores, and not 8. So the PS4 is going for more cores at lower clock speeds which would only result in more performance if a game is optimized to use all 8 cores.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4133d ago (Edited 4133d ago )

Why is every article you compare high end pc to a new console?? Have you not been gaming the last 7 years?? Same crap happens every time.

Why didn't you copy and paste this part of the article??

"Just to clarify, I’m not at all suggesting the PS4 will out-pace gaming PCs.

PCs will still be better machines in the end, especially if you are willing to pay. And yes, as I say below, the PC will be more future proof as well."
http://www.forbes.com/sites...

I love what I see with ps4 and it's a day 1 buy for me. It will be a hardcore system for sure.
I will most likely buy anything Naughty Dog makes.

But I like pc also and pc has games despite people saying they are only for multiplats..
And it's not all about graphics I have seen people with gtx 680s play the sh!t out of minecraft and then play BF3.

I like torchlight 2 more than diablo and I think sony games would want this more than diablo 3!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Coming this year.

Why is praising more than one platform a sin??

On topic:
2gz is low. Most cpus now of days are around 2.6ghz - 3.2ghz.

Mobile cpus are never clocked high because is for mobile devices that need to save energy and longer battery life..

Remember console have to be low wattage.
Where as on pc you can over clock the cpu to 4ghz+.

Also I hear ps4 only has one shared l3 cache for all 8 cores.

gaffyh4133d ago

@shutup - The point is, Diablo will be on the system, and that is enough for Sony because they have a game in their portfolio that will appeal to a different type of gamer. In addition to this, if it does well, Torchlight developers may see an opportunity and release a game on PS4 as well.

Dgander4133d ago

Give an idiot enough time they will eventually expose themself lol

fr0sty4133d ago

There are 2GHZ processors that can outrun a 3GHZ with the same number of cores. The number alone does not equal overall power. It is just clock speed. There are a number of other bottlenecks that could come into play reducing a processor with a higher clock to run slower than a processor with a lower clock. The original rumors pegged PS4 as 1.6 to 1.8 GHZ, and we've all seen what the thing can do, so I wouldn't be trashing the CPU just because your desktop or laptop has a faster clock speed. This system is obviously very well balanced, so let's let them show us what it can do.

PLASTICA-MAN4133d ago

The memory got upgraded, the GPU got upgraded, what was left? The CPU. He joins the party.

BrianC62344133d ago

"2GHz is a fairly low clock speed. My PC from four years ago runs 1000MHz faster. Although it only has 4 cores, and not 8. So the PS4 is going for more cores at lower clock speeds which would only result in more performance if a game is optimized to use all 8 cores."

These speeds don't matter that much anymore. A 2GHz CPU was slow for a while but then they stopped going up and we started getting multicore CPUs. If you have eight cores running at 2GHz though that's pretty fast. But there's so much more to look at now than just the speed. It would only matter if Microsoft's CPU was running a lot slower.

-SIXAXIS-4133d ago

In response to some of the other replies to your post, I feel like I need to clear up something about clock speed: the clock speed of a processor doesn't necessarily reflect the performance of the CPU.

The clock speed of a CPU tells you the rate at which it can execute instructions. So a clock at 1 MHz will fire 1 million times per second.

In terms of a CPU the clock speed is generally related to the amount of time it takes to perform instructions.

However, the reason that this isn't a good representation of the CPU speed is that different CPUs have different instructions and can do different things in different amounts of time.

So for example, let's say you have a 2 GHz Pentium 4 and a 1.5 GHz i7. And let's say the Pentium 4 takes 2 cycles to add 2 numbers (this is probably untrue, but I'm using it as an example), whereas the i7 takes 1. That means that the Pentium 4 will be slower in finishing the operation even though its clock speed is faster.

For more information about this, Google the "Megahertz myth".

ProjectVulcan4133d ago (Edited 4133d ago )

AMD claim that a top Jaguar quad core is 260 percent faster than a top end Bobcat dual core http://news.softpedia.com/n... (its predecessor.) A Bobcat dual core like an E-350 is just under half the performance of a basic 2008 Intel Pentium dual core E2200. Maybe a quad core Jaguar is like an E2200.

The biggest native design is the quad core with 2mb L2 cache.

So for PS4, word is it is a pair of quad cores, with 2mb cache each, welded together.

So 8 cores, or probably 7 for games @ 2ghz if Sony reserve one.

Its a low power architecture designed for the mobile segment, although the quad core variant is really intended for netbook/nettop scale applications.

It will probably be just shy of a modern Intel Ivy Bridge Dual Core desktop x86 PC CPU or a Quad cluster AMD piledriver.

Compared to a modern Intel quad core like a Core i5 3570k for example or a 8 cluster Piledriver like an FX-8350 it will be most likely be a bit under half their performance.

Although Intel do have a totally new, Haswell architecture arriving in around June of this year which will give Piledriver (and Ivy bridge of course) a good duffing up.

solar4133d ago

Love dat notebook budget cpu's. They scream powerful technology

PurpHerbison4133d ago

I applaud your trolling, but people are catching on. Tighten it up a bit!

slayorofgods4133d ago

"Compared to a modern Intel quad core like a Core i5 3570k for example or a 8 cluster Piledriver like an FX-8350 it will be most likely be a bit under half their performance."

Good to know, I've eyed both those cpus as they are both in a affordable price range. But, I don't need to be cutting edge unless that is where gaming is heading. Two good cpu's.. but when will gaming really take advantage of that sort of power? When it actually seems viable I will take the jump, but I have a feeling I will stay put with PS4 type of gaming power for a while..

Random question..
I read a while back that for gaming (at least to start the last generation) that the magic number for gaming performance is/was a 3 core cpu to maximize actual game play. I know 7 cores is better for multitasking and doing things besides strict gameplay. But when it comes to actual gameplay how does a 8 core cpu @ 2.0ghz, stack up against say a amd quad core @3.2ghz?

RyuCloudStrife4133d ago

@GiggMan

Thats a quote directly from the article... apparently you didn't read it just like all PC fanboys.

RegorL4133d ago

@slayerofgods "I read a while back that for gaming (at least to start the last generation) that the magic number for gaming performance is/was a 3 core cpu to maximize actual game play. ... But when it comes to actual gameplay how does a 8 core cpu @ 2.0ghz, stack up against say a amd quad core @3.2ghz?"

Games have been written for what is common out there. Thus very few games utilizes AMD Bulldozer. But with PS4 this will change - suddenly an 8 core CPU will be one of the most common...

Counting raw cycles
AMD Quad 4*3.2 = 12.8
AMD PS4 8*2.0 = 16.0
PS3 SPE 6*3.2 = 19.2

Next question, how many cycles will each operation take? On a modern CPU most instructions execute in a single cycle. But it does not stop there, as modern processor process a set of data every cycle, as most are SIMD architectures. What is worse is that a CPU often have to wait for memory, costing hundreds of cycles. PS4 looks very balanced in this regard, PS3 was not.

LightofDarkness4133d ago

Look at the latest Cyrsis 3 benchmarks to see how an AMD 8-core design (FX-8350) can rival the highest end Ivy-Bridge (3770k) in gaming performance, despite costing much less (it's also interesting to note just how little of an effect hyper-threading has in this situation). It just goes to show you that once games actually start utilizing multiple threads efficiently, we should start seeing very favorable performance gains for more cores in the old cores v.s. clocks debate.

Again, this is great news for all PC owners with multi-core processors, especially if those CPUs have higher clock speeds.

It will also be interesting to see how PS4 to PC ports will perform on a very AMD platform (GCN2.0 GPU, FX-8xxx series CPU, 8-16GB DDR3). You could see a much quicker turnaround for ports and even more impressive performance than we typically see with console ports.

TopDudeMan4133d ago

It doesn't really matter that much that it's only 2GHz (even though it does have 8 cores). In terms of performance, the CPU will never be the bottleneck. The graphics and RAM are much more important for performance. As far as I'm concerned, 2GHz would be sufficient - if it is true.

mistertwoturbo4133d ago (Edited 4133d ago )

Clock speed is only one element of a CPU.

A 3.5GHZ i5-3570 has far more performance than something like a 4GHZ FX-8350 in individual IPC.

Architecture is very important.

Right now in the PC games world, there are only a hand full of games that utilize more than 4 threads. Crysis 3 is probably the best example that uses 8 threads pretty well.

I'm pretty sure that all PS4 games will always utilize all 8 cores as much as they can to extract as much performance as they can.

So having 8 cores even though it is clocked low, will still be more than sufficient. Things like physics, destruction, effects etc. will be handled by the GPU.

slayorofgods4133d ago

"A 3.5GHZ i5-3570 has far more performance than something like a 4GHZ FX-8350 in individual IPC."

Thats is very true, especially with multitasking. From what I'm hearing here so far its seems like AMD actually made a really smart move by putting a 8 core cpu in the PS4. If the 720 also gets a 8 core cpu, then games will be built to take advantage of 8 cores over 4 cores with hyper-threading. That could keep AMD slightly ahead with pure gaming.

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joab7774133d ago

Exactly, the apu architecture allows for less heat. It also allows for the ps4 to be much more than the sum of its parts. It is strange though to change this and add 4 gb of memory to dev kits that have supposedly been available for 5 yrs. Dont get me wrong, its great for games that will be coming out in 2015 and beyond but doesnt that mean that sonys greatest launch lineup ever have been using inferior dev kiys for years. Some developer at the meeting and all of the leaks talked about 4 gb, so unless theres a mad dash, launch titles wont be using near the actual power of the ps4.

grassyknoll4133d ago

Almost all developer kits are unfinished till 6 months before, happens to every console. Compare Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 3 for example!

Dark_Overlord4133d ago

"Almost all developer kits are unfinished till 6 months before,"

Even then the dev kits are updated throughout the console life cycle, like when Sony reduced the OS over heads to allow the devs more resources :)

KwietStorm_BLM4133d ago

Dev kits been available for 5 years? How could that even be possible?

Sharingan_no_Kakashi4133d ago

PS4DAILY??????

Wonder how long this site has been around...

Ju4133d ago

Would be nice if true. But they also say it's the new GPU 4.5x faster than the RSX which they evaluate at 400MFlops...which isn't true. So, who knows.