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Naughty Dog wants to change the industry by rising above the 'idiot plot'

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"Shortly after my hands-on demo with The Last of Us, I was fortunate enough to sit down with Minkoff and discuss the studio's role as the foremost leader in advancing games as a narrative art form. Minkoff first shared an amusing anecdote: "People were like, 'What do you want to do with this game?' and [Neil Druckmann, Creative Director] said, 'I want to change the f***ing industry, man.'"

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Knight_Crawler4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

@ Naughty Dog - Kojima, Quantic Dreams, Team ICO and a few other says hi.

I love Uncharted but ND need to stop thinking that they are gods gift to gaming.

You dont see Kojima or Shigeru Miyamoto acting like this.

CGI-Quality4245d ago

Another misinformed user. They just don't learn (nor read).

Reverent4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

They don't. In fact, they are pretty modest. Try reading the article, and don't say you did, because your comment says otherwise. People really need to stop posting their comments based on their interpretations of an article's title on this site..

Also, off topic, but I am getting REALLY sick and tired of those stupid Black Ops 2 ads every time I click a damn link around here. That commercial really is not even that funny. (For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, just disregard this last part of my comment)

hulk_bash19874245d ago

Haha some one isn't to keen on reading the article before jumping on that high horse.

deSSy27244244d ago

ND never act like that.... even if they make awesome games, they never bash others/competition for no reasons. Even if they are in partnership with Sony they never bash Nintendo developers or systems for example..... more than that, they even praised Nintendo in general numerous times (example N64, some Nintendo games, Wii U etc).... just google damn it AND PLS READ THE ARTICLE!!

ND is one of the best developers in the industry..... they really are.

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hulk_bash19874245d ago

Lol yeah how bout you read the article before making assumptions.

KwietStorm_BLM4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

Holy shit..9 disagrees? I was referring to 'idiot plot,' its right there in the title. Assumptions? Assumptions about WHAT? It sounded funny, so I laughed. This is why so many people have a problem with this site. You can't say anything without someone ASSUMING some other motive and downvoting you for it. I never even mentioned Naughty Dog. I love the hell out of Naughty Dog. Amazing..

sdozzo4245d ago

Sadly, that's how n4g rolls... Too many people read titles and post.

hulk_bash19874245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

Ohh okay that's my bad, vague comment is vague. I guess I'll eat my words and apologize, sorry about that.

Hicken4245d ago

Given all the crap that just happened above you, you didn't think to give your comment some context?

Be mad if you want, but you really only have yourself to blame for making such a vague comment.

KwietStorm_BLM4244d ago

Jesus man give it a rest. There was nothing at all vague about my comment. People who disagreed just took it out of context because, like was already discussed, too much assuming going on. I didn't read any other comments before I wrote mine, and half of them weren't there anyway, because they're replies. You're kidding yourself if you think I'm gonna blame myself for someone else's ignorance. To your own point, I'm still getting disagrees AFTER the explanation to my "vague" comment, when it really ain't that serious.

Zefros4245d ago

If some of you guys READ the article, you would have known what naughty dog MEANT by IDIOT plot. Some people are just to stupid to understand...

poopsack4245d ago

About the Telltale Walking Dead Comparison comment, the game was fine and all but I've found it easier to become emotionally invested in what little Ive seen of TLOU than the entire TWD series, simply cause of animation and visuals involved. At this point you might be thinking "OHMERGERD GRAPHICS IDIOT" but the point is the cartoonish animation, simple geometry and muddy shaders in telltales game made it difficult to become that invested in its events. And its cinematography could've made up for it (cause being cartoony isn't necessarily bad for drama) but it wasnt quite there. Not hating on TWD, but Im just saying comparisons isnt a thing Naughty Dog is really gonna have to deal with. I never even thought about it until this point.

Norrison4245d ago (Edited 4245d ago )

Only characters I really got invested with were lee, carley and clem.
Last of Us, if performed right, will be a masterpiece.

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Ironically, Bungie told Naughty Dog not to go "all in on a live service game"

Bungie warns Naughty Dog on live service, before crumpling due to live service.

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GaboonViper52d ago

Probably the only good thing to come from the Bungie buyout, ND should stick to what they know best, SP masterpieces.

DarXyde51d ago

Mostly agree, though I'm not against studios getting experimental outside of their comfort zone.

Funny enough, if we held Guerilla to that, we'd continue to receive shooters the general public might consider pretty mid.

I think Horizon is really where they hit their stride.

Juancho5151d ago

On a case by case basis i agree with exploring different genres and creating new IPs and experiences. What I dont like is when a studio that makes AMAZING Batman games for example, decides to go live service and makes a heaping pile of garbage.

Sometimes sticking with what you do well is better, unless they can manage the risk…

Cacabunga51d ago

ND doesn’t have the experience and gaas is a make or break…
I would for sure not have supported it, same as bungie’s next thing

Knightofelemia52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

Well it's the truth live service games can be a flavor of the month, not even be a blip on the radar, could be a very popular game, a pile of shit, revenue generating, or lose your shirt, or my favorite lock everything behind a pay wall. The market is just so over saturated with these type of games. Least Bungie had one piece of solid advice.

H951d ago

Because they would lose their only worth in the company

anast51d ago

It's good they dropped factions. People make it sound like it was this huge hit , but in reality it was a Cinderella story for a relatively few that play it and to recapture that would be almost impossible

BlackTar18751d ago

Not true.

ND are jerks for promising that for years and years and delivering nothing.

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Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Drops To Best Price Yet Alongside More Great PS5 Game Deals

PlayStation's Back to School sale includes big discounts on a bunch of PS5 exclusives, including Marvel's Spider-Man 2.

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just_looken55d ago

spiderman 2 $40 from $70 so it's priced right now as a expansion pack like MM.,

andy8555d ago

Pretty decent expansion pack then saying i got 30-40 hours out if it.

just_looken55d ago

I can get 30hours out of a job outside does not mean it was good.

But i know no matter what i post or prove people love there nerfed spiderman or playing as a blind person for 5 hours then mary jane shehulk for another 12hours.

I am so glad today's "gamer" was not around for the ps3/360 era these new gamers are way to easy to please and have killed gaming.

andy8555d ago

It was good though. Are you actually saying it wasn't a good game? And blind? The person you play as was deaf and it was 10 mins not 5 hours. Doesn't seem like you've even played it by that comment. And MJ was...30 mins at most? Not sure how you get 40 mins into 17 hours exactly

CobraKai54d ago

@just_looken

I’ve been playing since the Sega Master System. I love Spiderman 2. There’s too much going for it to be a simple expansion pack. I felt Miles Morales could fall into the expansion pack range.

If you didn’t like it, it’s fine. That’s what’s great about opinions, there are no wrong ones, just different ones.

StormSnooper54d ago

You guys have to understand, they don’t have anything even close to it on his preferred system. There is a whole psychology behind his comment.

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pwnmaster300055d ago (Edited 55d ago )

lol I was in the ps3/360 era and spider man 2 would of been a massive hit still.

Please don’t try to represent us gamers from that time. You are not a good example, always complaining and being negative lol.

CobraKai54d ago

@just
I mean, it’s New York. You can’t exactly change the map.

It sounds like you’re hard to please vs gamers being easy to please. You mentioned great games. Games whose sequels had very similar gameplay with each other with very minimal changes or upgrades.

Im with pwnmaster. Don’t speak for us. It sounds like probably only started gaming from PS360 era.

Rebel_Scum55d ago

Peter Parker lives in New York, where else do you expect the map to be?

Using the same map/location is not a problem.

On topic: In my region the base game is $80. Still not low enough for me to dive in. Not that Im in a rush. Havent even finished the 1st one’s dlc yet.

just_looken55d ago

The map still has asset's buildings the the first game its like madden yeah same stadium but can you change that madden 14 logo?

Not to mention they never added shield basses basically unique interiors you can explore off missions or add in jersey.

pwnmaster300054d ago

Sony pony??
Are you a child? Lmao

Just stop man. It’s embarrassing.
We can like games and not be a fanboy.
Gaming shouldn’t be taken this serious. Relax lol

just_looken54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

"lol I was in the ps3/360 era and spider man 2 would of been a massive hit still.

Please don’t try to represent us gamers from that time. You are not a good example, always complaining and being negative lol. "

You come at me calling me a bad example talking like this game is gods gift to us and on any sony article you defend them no matter what.

But now i am a child? what because i used logic again this site you throw facts at people they cry to the admins to get me off here again or play the victim card.

pwnmaster300054d ago (Edited 54d ago )

Lmao gods gift to us what. I said it would have been a massive hit not a perfect game. It’s a good game get over it.

And this is why I said what I said.
“ But i know no matter what i post or prove people love there nerfed spiderman or playing as a blind person for 5 hours then mary jane shehulk for another 12hours.”

And you’re still proving me right. God forbid people like a certain game.
And BS about me on every sony article defending them. I like games and praised every games I

“ But now i am a child? what because i used logic again this site you throw facts at people they cry to the admins to get me off here again or play the victim card.”

Your opinions are not facts and the fact you think they are is sad. Step off video games for awhile.

just_looken54d ago

Na its fine you go ahead belive 200 million dollars makes sense for 1 game when 80 created a trilogy on 360.

I live without blinders unlike others.

pwnmaster300054d ago (Edited 54d ago )

“I live without blinders unlike others.“
🤣😂🤣 thanks for the laugh. Have a good night brother. Fight that good fight your fighting.

repsahj54d ago

Saddest Xbox loyalist on N4G. XD

StormSnooper54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

He is a duplicate account. He changes names to get a new lease on life and people would respond to him. Sad indeed.

MetroidFREAK2154d ago

Definitely more than an expansion pack... the Miles Morales game from 2020 is that... ya silly goose

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Neil Druckmann: Philosopher gamer behind 'The Last of Us'

who is now the sole leader of Naughty Dog, “I promise you, we will not be ‘The Last of Us’ studio forever.” Numerous games, he said, are in the works, including “multiple single-player projects.

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Lightning77112d ago

I know he has a celebrity like status but unless he's announcing his game soon idc what he has to say from this point on.

We need announcement something from him.

Crows90110d ago

The dude is a nobody. He's also wrong. Naughty dog is the uncharted and Jak daxter studio.

They only made one universally praised last of us game. They're not know as "the last of us studio" but they are currently known as the "remake" studio.

Lightning77110d ago

I like his games tbh I'm just more upset at the fact that he's been talking and talking and not showing anything. I'm an actual fan of his work, don't cars if that's that's a popular take or not.

If he has nothing to show or talk about. I don't care about his interviews, his red carpet appearances or what's next for last Of Us 2 TV, leave that to Hollywood. You don't see SP, Bend, or any other studio doing what he's doing. They're remaining quiet and focused as most PS studios do. He should do the same. The next thing I wanna hear him say is "now heres our game" we know that probably won't be for another year or so, so he needs to remain silent and stay out of the limelight for awhile.

AsunaYuukiTheFlash110d ago

You are wrong. LOU2 won a lot of GOTY and was highly rated. It's okay to dislike the game but saying that ND just made one critical acclaimed LOU game is just hating at this point.

rippermcrip111d ago

Kind of a weird interview. No substance, hardly any questions. It's almost like they forgot to post the whole thing or something.

neomahi111d ago

Oh brother...... It's like a balloon filling with helium. He's got nothing new to say. Naughty Dog went from being a studio of numerous developers to being about him and what HE does. Bruce Straley was the co-creator of The Last of Us, and he left--I think for the same reason Christophe Balestra left and since then, Naughty Dog haven't been the same. PlayStation is incredibly woke, as all businesses seem to be these days, ignorant to what's really going on sacrificing the greater for peanuts, but I think they left because of the uprising political atmosphere. They knew there was nothing they could do about it and an attempt to try and combat it, in today's society would end them up in legal trouble so, they just left, what else can you do when the opposition behaves like a child, screams and yells louder than you want to in raged fits, and will throw lawsuits at you at whatever chance they can, but you don't play that way, so they left. And Naughty Dog hasn't been the same since.

Naughty Dog was huge at one time! They were the underdog that became the top dog but, the direction it's fine, just watch and wait. It's ego, and Druckmanns ego of thinking they're untouchable and can just coast along, will drop them rock bottom, in due time, they could see the same fate as Xbox's teams met. Fans will turn on Naughty Dog because A) Naughty Dog aren't producing, they're not what they once were.
B) Gamers ARE growing tired of the woke culture overtaking their lifetime hobby. They're just more silent about it, it's the quiet cool

anast111d ago

Non of this makes sense. I would like to think you didn't spend too much time writing it.

Crows90110d ago

I hope you didn't spend much time reading..it...cuz obviously you didnt understand it. But that's okay. There's many other comments to read...

MIDGETonSTILTS17111d ago

You project your own views on the world, and that is a mistake.

Crows90110d ago

Um...so you project someone else view on the world? What are you talking about?! We all project our view on the world lol...smh

anast110d ago

It's called perspective. I understand that. But I don't understand the poster.

smashman98110d ago

you know it's not his fault that people are interested in what he says, right?

Also, Naughty Dog is bigger than ever.

Crows90110d ago

Smaller....where's their last big game? Yeah...I remember when they were actually releasing heavy hitters.

smashman98109d ago

@Crows90 It was in 2020 and despite what a vocal minority says it was critically acclaimed and the 2020 game of the year. Not only that but The Last of Us is also a critically acclaimed television series and PlayStation's most successful foray into Film and TV yet.

So yes, Naughty Dog is bigger than ever, and just because you don't vibe with them or whatever does not change that fact.

anast111d ago

He's a solid theatre arts person, but he's not a philosopher. Being good at one thing doesn't mean he's Descartes.

DarXyde111d ago

I believe that philosophers are more principled than Druckmann, to be honest. It's fascinating that The Last of Us Part II was literally inspired by the Israel-Palestine conflict and was a needed commentary on humanity and ending the cycle of violence, only to have some questionable commentary after 7 October.

I don't hate the guy as some others seem to. He's been a big part of some great games, but I'll never understand the obsession with hanging on all of his statements.

Chard110d ago (Edited 110d ago )

That's a good point in relation to 7 Oct - a far more important issue where valid criticisms could have been made of this guy, but most here seem thoroughly distracted by trivial issues

anast110d ago

@DarXyde

Like all artists he has a signature. People that have an agenda will try to look for that signature and use it. This is why a lot of "journalist/game influencers" hang on every word. Most of us just enjoy his work and get hyped when he mentions something about a possible new game.

@Chard
"a far more important issue where valid criticisms could have been made of this guy"

Which is?

MIDGETonSTILTS17111d ago

Sony should try and stay radio silence outside of hard reveals.

It’s painful to wait for any info at all, but it’s less painful than skimming an interview that avoids all details whatsoever.

Commit to radio silence, Sony. You can afford to leverage the trust in gaming output that you’ve cultivated.

anast110d ago

That wouldn't be a smart decision. There must be a constant stream of connection in today's world.

MIDGETonSTILTS17108d ago

When a constant stream of connection delays a game 1-2 years, and said games take 5 years to make anyways…. Sony fans are better off trusting Sony to deliver than expecting frequent confirmation.

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