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Is Microsoft already teasing us with a "next Xbox" countdown?

Neowin: "Major Nelson, the blog where many Microsoft Xbox 360 announcements are made, has just posted a countdown clock to E3 2013, which could be a tease for the reveal of the next version of the game console.."

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GraveLord4561d ago

No, its just a countdown to E3...

lastofgen4561d ago (Edited 4561d ago )

except that Microsoft has never done this before on their blog...so I'm guessing it means they're doing something huge at e3 this year.

and e3 2013 does seem like the perfect time to announce and show off their next-gen xbox.

Abash4561d ago

Anyone who is not expecting the new Xbox at E3 this year are in denial

princejb1344561d ago

more kinect games
im kidding

i really hope is the next gen console

TheGamerDood4561d ago

The ball is in your court Sony.

LAWSON724561d ago

Something huge... to ms that means KINECT!

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NukaCola4561d ago

Sony has DESTINATION PLAYSTATION coming in 3 weeks. This is clearly MS getting ready to counter. I am expecting a bunch of teasing for next gen, so hype can be built for E3. But for the clock, MS has always gotten the opening spot for E3. It's been long enough. Look at the Wii U pulling a 1 year head start. Look at MS's insane lack of games, look at Sony pushing all their heavy exclusives before the summer. They are getting or have gotten all their current titles out to close out the year. Next gen consoles are coming.

kreate4561d ago

As long as its not something stupid. Imagine getting all hyped up and arguing for nothing.

kickerz4561d ago

I'm so pumped to see the next Xbox. still loving halo4 at the moment but dam looking forward to playing next gen games :) hope they stay wit the Xbox controller design :)

nveenio4561d ago

Something "HUGE" means that Little Kim will come out and sing a song while a Kinect video plays.

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Tr10wn4560d ago

I should really bookmark this post so i can come back after the E3 event and laugh at all the "Something big is something to do with kinect" that'll be fun.

MikeMyers4560d ago

VickBoss,
"The next xbox was said to be out last year with 100% confidence. .........how will this be any different?"

By whom? Did Microsoft have a countdown timer last year like this?

"according to Microsoft they said last year that the 360 has more than two years left.
and also shane kim said the 360 will be around in 2015"

So. Sony said many years ago the PS3 had a 10 year cycle as well. That doesn't mean Sony was going to wait 10 years before they release the PS4. What that meant is they believe the PS3 will be available in production for that long. The PS2 was in production even longer than that but the PS3 came out 6 years after it came out.

Microsoft is also confident there will be support until at least 2015. Still don't mean that is the year the Xbox 720 comes out.

This year is an exciting time for me. Valve is rumored to have a Steambox. Both Sony and Microsoft could announce new hardware. Apple might even get into the mix or at least more news about iTV. Both Vita and the Wii U will have a big push this year. The PC is very alive and kicking ass as well. I just think Microsoft really needs to take a look at previous E3 events and do a much better showing. For the past few years they have been terrible from my perspective. They might do well as far as sales in the U.S. but it's hard to watch as a consumer.

LordZ4560d ago

Winter is coming.
One doesn't simply walk into E3.

Sp1d3ynut4560d ago

@ VickBoss

Shane Kim hasn't worked for MS in over 3 years, you idiot. What do you really think he knows about their interior dealings now?

DOMination-4560d ago

I actually think both xbox and playstation will be announced before e3.

That-Guy4560d ago

If it releases around the end of this year I am betting my money they'll make a reveal before E3.

nveenio4560d ago

What's funny is that people actually expect the next XBox to be what they want it to be. Microsoft has been all miss for the last two to three years, with their only successes being third-party software. Sure, the big countdown may not be Kinect2, but it's not going to be a console with twin Nvidia 680 graphics cards, 16GB Ram, and an i7 Extreme, either.

If it is, I'll eat my hat.

Cr7ValkyrurXIII4560d ago

I hope at least Microsoft has some new Ip's because have to wait halos and Gears it's so annoying and tired. Wait a year for a new game not like the Ps3.

bobshi4560d ago

So if he posted a topless picture of himself in some kind of drunken rage would that mean the 720 is coming?

Just because it wasn't done before doesn't mean it relates to the 720.

An completely ridiculous assumption.

That doesn't mean I think we will not see a new console at E3. I do.

ThanatosDMC4560d ago

The only thing I dont like is I have a Kinect and now they're making a Kinect 2... so it's not gonna be compatible?

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Irishguy954561d ago (Edited 4561d ago )

I doubt it, with the recent news it really seems like the Xbox is set to reveal at E3. Well, it was expected anyhow.

Also, how often does Major nelson post a coutdown to E3? Never...really? Oh ok.

Oh in case anyone doesn't know, there's a rumor floating that MS is essentially finished the Nextbox. It's getting done now. All that's left is testing it at it's release stage extensively/

ziggurcat4561d ago

that may be, but it stands to reason that the next xbox (as well as the next playstation) will be announced at E3 this year.

IAMERROR4561d ago

They've never done this before, and this early? This must be special

Abdou234561d ago

SONY will most likely announce their console after E3:
1- To wait and see what Microsoft exactly have to offer.
2- To not ruin the sales of games like TLOU-Byeond.

I_am_Batman4560d ago

I don't think that they'll wait because even if they see what MS has to offer they won't have the time to react to it unless they want to release PS4 in 2015 or so. And I don't think an announcement would ruin TLou sales at all. Can't remember PS3 ruining any sales for late PS2 games especially when it's one of the most anticipated games to come.

On Topic: I think MS will annonce the Nextbox before E3 and show some games plus giving more details (like release date) at E3.

rainslacker4560d ago

I wouldn't doubt that Sony already has some idea of what MS will already do next gen, and vice versa. These companies cooperate a lot more than they compete. They also both have analysts which can look at what the other company is doing and make predictions on what is to come. Those predictions come from real fact checking and market trend predictions, and not wild speculation. On top of that, both these companies have numerous patents that they will be using off one another, and those were likely licensed well in advance of now.

Abdou234560d ago

I know they already have some strong info about the other console's specs ( ram - GPU ) but what i meant is that SONY might wait to see what the next XBOX console will be priced at, release window, models etc.

1Victor4561d ago

@ grave lord you're making a grave mistake as abash and others have pointed out M N have not put a countdown to E3 before.Now Sony is forced to show/tease their next system on their event amonth before E3 and price+ release date at TGS

churskux4560d ago

The new Xbox will probably be out by the end of next year, they will announce it this year at E3, show it a little bit more at E3 2014 and then release it a few months later

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Cocozero4561d ago

A countdown for nearly half a year must mean something big.

BanBrother4561d ago

If it is not XBOX 720, Alan Wake 2, Lost Odyssey 2, new Banjo Kazooie game or new Conkers Bad Fur Day game, count me out.

aviator1894560d ago

I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE GAMES AS WELL.

Tr10wn4560d ago

wow lost odyssey i loved that game

000014561d ago

well...i would think if the new xbox were to launch this year, Microsoft would at least announce that the console exist well before E3'13, so as to start the hype train and advertisement. other than that, i guess the countdown clock is either Microsoft's way of generating some buzz for themselves having a big E3 presence or simply just a countdown to something else entirely around the same time frame.

iNathan4561d ago

MS is in a great position, alot of new studios built up from the ground, outstanding 3rd party support, tons of money to buy DLC/Exclusives and a huge huge huge brand with Xbox that is now everywhere, from Iphone, to Windows Phone 8 to Windows 8.

Root4561d ago

Sorry but I'm curious....new studios built up from the ground....like?

I mean apart from the obvious ones 343, Lionhead, Rare, Black Tusk Studios and the ones that does all that Kinect crap

Root4561d ago

Disagrees for asking something

You guys are way too sensitive

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4561d ago

There are non next to 343 there is 000.

OC_MurphysLaw4561d ago

No disagree's from me but here is a list of the 21 game studio's off of Wikipedia

United States:

343 Industries – Halo series

Connected Experiences – Untitled Project – Design Large scale multiplayer title and help other

Good Science Studio – Kinect Adventures, Kinect Fun Labs

Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment – Untitled Project

Microsoft Studios – Los Angeles – Untitled Project

Microsoft Studios – Mobile Gaming – ilomilo

Microsoft Studios – Redmond Publishing – Overseeing and co-developing multiple projects in conjunction with third party development studios

Platform Next Studios – Untitled Project

Playful Learning – Untitled Project

Skybox Sports – Untitled Project

Turn 10 Studios – Forza Motorsport series

Twisted Pixel Games – The Gunstringer, LocoCycle

Xbox Live Productions – South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!, South Park: Tenorman's Revenge, Avatar Kinect

Europe:

Lionhead Studios – Fable series, Black & White series; Unannounced MMO-like New IP

Microsoft Studios – London – Untitled Free-To-Play Project

Rare Ltd. – Banjo-Kazooie series, Viva Piñata, Perfect Dark series, Kinect Sports series

Soho Productions – Kinect Sesame Street TV

Press Play – Untitled Project[23]

Canada:

BigPark – Joy Ride series, Kinect Sports: Season Two

Black Tusk Studios – Untitled Project

Microsoft Studios Victoria – Untitled Project

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

ALLWRONG4561d ago

Root! you missed a few, and you made it way obvious.

Nice try though

Skips4561d ago (Edited 4561d ago )

@Dlacy13g

Well I'm pretty certain about one thing given the past games the majority of the those studios have worked on.

There will be no shortage of Kinect titles. Probably the majority of their launch lineup could be all focused on Kinect given what kind of audience Microsoft has been aiming for the past couple of years.

Not saying it's bad, it's just not my thing : /

Root4561d ago

@Dlacy13g

Most of them are Kinect titles in the making and I said not the obvious ones

So what are you actualy left with...titles that have been in the making since the begining of this gen but in the end will be Kinect titles.

DOMination-4560d ago

I have brought this up many times and always get the kinect excuse. The reality is only four of those 21 studios have made kinect games. Even if they were to do so again next gen that still leaves 17 studios. The Sony bias on n4g is in denial because for the last three years they have gotten used to a lack of first party content from ms (rightfully)

Soeaking of Sony.. They only have 12 studios now. One is SCE London which has only made singstar and eyepet games. San Diego only makes baseball games which only North America cares about. Ico and Cambridge who have released nothing between them this gen. That leaves 8 relevant studios. I seriously think people will be surprised when next gen hits..

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Abdou234561d ago

Actually Gaming wise Microsooft is being Crushed by SONY- Nintendo, those 2 have more Exclusives and successful ones.

AngelicIceDiamond4561d ago

Barley got our foot in 2013 and a possible mega ton announcement is already planned. 2 words

Bring It.

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Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils20h ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent753h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

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isarai2d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning771d 21h ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher1d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor23h ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde22h ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z11h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey866h ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

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Obscure_Observer5d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30005d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer5d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger5d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30005d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto5d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing695d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif5d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing695d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif4d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot5d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast5d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto5d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos4d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo4d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner4d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18814d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole9d ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK9d ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

Agent758d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games.

KwietStorm_BLM9d ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif9d ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Obscure_Observer8d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever."

I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released.

Notellin8d ago

You should have just lead this comment with the fact that you have zero understanding of technology in the consoles and instead have a Toms Hardware online forum level of education.

Obscure_Observer6d ago

"It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever"

I´d told you were on some bs

https://www.pcgamesn.com/wp...

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Agent758d ago

But Microsoft forgot the games

Obscure_Observer8d ago

@VenomUK

"I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec."

Very interesting theory. Still not sure how MS would actually make it work.

KwietStorm_BLM8d ago

"I doubt that AMD´s CEO would waste her time making this huge and important partnership announcement over a tech that will be 7 years old by the those next gen consoles will be released."

How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is.

Obscure_Observer8d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"How old is the tech in consoles? It's not a huge announcement. It's marketing and you know it is."

Dude, what I know for certain is that a tech as old as X3D chips which is actually *older* than both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles, is hardly the reason behind this new partnership between AMD and MS to build new *custom silicon* for next generation of consoles.

And yes it´s a huge announcement since AMD is working closely with MS to co-develop custom SoC which will allow backwards compatibility across all MS´s next gen devices allowing seamless integration between devices and full backwards compatibility across all generations of Xbox consoles.

I also know is that this announcement don´t have anything to do with Playstation and their strategy with AMD for the PS6, so stop comparing the two pretending that you know what´s going on, because you clearly don´t.

If Sony is working on something remotely similar, that´s remain to be seen.

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Fishy Fingers9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer9d ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused9d ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher9d ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning779d ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay9d ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

Obscure_Observer8d ago

There´s a lot of people interested on Xbox Next and its ability to run games from major stores like Steam.

We know that the PS6 is just around the corner as well, but so far, no news on what it might improve over the PS5 or PS5 Pro.

However, Sony already made public that their priority and actual focus is the PS6. So its not "very early" to talk about next gen when the very console manufactures are talking about it.

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