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Fourth-generation iPad smashes PlayStation Vita in raw graphics power

James Pikover of GamesBeat: The newly released fourth-generation iPad from Apple has just surpassed Sony’s eight-month-old PlayStation Vita game handheld in graphical performance, based on an analysis of the iPad’s performance from Anand Shimpi of AnandTech and available knowledge of the Vita.

This latest iPad — which is a tablet, not a dedicated game console — has a more powerful GPU than the PlayStation Vita.

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Snookies124574d ago

I would hope so, the dang thing is going to cost you three times as much as a Vita.... -_- Also, it doesn't have controls (or analogs for that matter). It also doesn't have first party games like Uncharted, Little Big Planet, or Gravity Rush.... I could go on, but you get my point.

Blastoise4574d ago (Edited 4574d ago )

It makes me sad how many people buy Ipads.
Honestly I just can't find a use in them. What are they for?

brish4574d ago

The iPad is a device that takes money from your wallet, and gives it to Apple!

Based on the sales of the thing it's working really well! ;-)

raytraceme4574d ago (Edited 4574d ago )

basically nothing. you can do much more on a windows 8 ultrabook/hybrid. Surface PRO is the future of tablets.

The vita's gpu has actual vram thus enabling it to be more powerful than than most gpu's with similar specs. Also we don't know the exact specs of the vita's gpu and why it has the + after its name so this is still speculation.

The ipad is trash and you are better off with the nexus 10 if you really want a tablet.

The profits apple makes says enough for me to never buy their overpriced junk.

Amplitude4574d ago

Guys im totally with you that an android tablet is better than the iPad 4.

But the iPad 4 bechmarks higher than the Nexus 10. You can argue benchmarking legitemacy but in terms of hardware the iPad clearly better and that's a fact. Even the screen has a waaay higher dpi.

Despite the inevitable hilarious disagrees ill get, it's true xD

Though the iPad is also more expensive, and locked to Apple.

I also find it funny how everyone here games on consoles yet complains that the iPad is locked to Apple... Kind of hypocritical i dunno. I mean i understand, hate apple but still haha.

raytraceme4574d ago (Edited 4574d ago )

If you are into pc gaming you know benchmarks aren't everything.

The mali t604 supports ddr3 memory vs a6x ddr2. It also has newer feature sets like OpenGL ES 3.0, OpenCL 1.1,and dx11 compared to the sgx554mp and can have better looking games than it. In terms of raw power (flops) the exynos is better than the a6x.

Grahammad4574d ago (Edited 4574d ago )

You got a disagree from me at least because you're wrong, the iPad 4 has a DPI of 264. The Nexus 10 has a DPI of 300. Yes the iPad 4 is very powerful still, but I'd wait and see until the Nexus 10 is actually released with final software, as of now it isn't finalized.

Regardless of power though in the end, the iPad is nothing more than a glorified app launcher, with android (4.2 in this case) you have a far more powerful and flexible OS on the Nexus 10 for less money. Easy choice as far as I'm concerned, though I guess you aren't as "cool" if you don't buy something from Apple.

@raytraceme - Correct, the new Exynos is based off dual ARM A15s - extremely powerful, and the GPU is incredible. My only concern is that Samsung's Exynos chipsets are know to be notoriously poorly supported by Samsung developer-wise, leaving out important coding for developers to properly take advantage of the hardware. I hope they fix that this time around and release all the related info in a timely manner because that chip has some serious potential.

Though compared to Apple which gives out 0 information about their in house chips, I guess that point's invalid when comparing the two tablets. lol

DragonKnight4574d ago

Now I wonder how many people are going to justify a $750 price tag and yet still call the Vita expensive.

g-nome4574d ago

Kids love the casual games and touch interface , we have a 3ds , vita and my 8 yr old daughter prefers the Ipad. That is why they sell.

mt4573d ago

it is not sad, people have the choice you can't tell them what to buy what to not buy. (speaking from a person who never owned IPAD product) it is just I hate it when people say it makes me sad when people buy Ipad !!!

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Darth Stewie4574d ago

You forgot to add a new model releases just about every year sometimes twice a year.

Mounce4573d ago

Yea, like, I'd also hope so because Vita is made to last 10 years....and fucking iPads are re-released EVERY GOD DAMN YEAR....

iPad 5th Gen, 6th gen, 7th gen, and ONWARD will no doubt be damn sttronger....'venturebeat. com' Now known to me as a trafficking site of delinquents looking for site hits.

People get Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft consoles for what remains of 1st and 2nd-party exclusives that Aren't found elsewhere....That is where the saying 'Graphics don't mean everything' come in, iPad stronger? Zomg!11! Well, Vita has Sony-games and is made for Gamers, not touch-screen, buttonless Snob-like people who want to be seen as sophisticated, lol.

That's not even mentioning price of it, to those imbeciles who actually buy every fucking generation of iPod, iPhone and iPad when they release....biggest waste of money. It's not even to be considered an Investment at this point.

AlphaJunk4573d ago

The Vita does have those games - too bad they aren't helping sales for the device and the games themselves don't seem to be selling that well for the machine either. Sooo what was your point again?
As for cost - you do get what you pay in this case- you can gamepad adapters for tablets now that work pretty well.

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smashcrashbash4574d ago

Does it have the same controls? No? Then who cares?

Tolkoto4574d ago

I cared before it was cool to care.

memots4574d ago

Hipster are too cool to care man.

Smashbro294574d ago

iPad still loses on the basis that it has no god damn buttons.

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SkullBlade1694574d ago

Even if it had a more powerful GPU than my desktop PC I would still not play it, gaming on a touch screen sucks. (DS excluded since it has buttons too)

memots4574d ago

One does not simply state the obvious on n4g.

r214574d ago

It may be more powerful BUT does it have physical controls? Does it have games that will engage you like Assassin's Creed Liberations and Gravity Rush? No and no :) In my books the vita trumps the Ipad!

Griffin48714574d ago

With all due respect, these first party games aren't helping Vita sales. Third party is just as important and well, that is the Vita's weak point.

RivetCityGhoul4574d ago (Edited 4574d ago )

its called positioning and marketing. example: it was a stupid idea to put out AC Liberation on the same day as AC3. you tell me which is gonna sell more a game made for 5-6 year old consoles or a game made for 1 year old portable system?heres an analogy: you think darksiders 2 would have sold as much as it did if THQ didn't properly promote it and position it when it had hardly had any competition outside of sleeping dogs? NOOOOO... it common sense. its a problem with sony marketing department not the handheld itself.

r214574d ago

Yes Gravity Rush is 1st party but AC Liberations is made by a 3rd party developer. I believe Ubisoft Sofia made it. Another 3rd party developer that made a vita exclusive was Criterion. There's a bunch more 3rd party developers, both Western and Japanese developers making games for vita.

Theangrybogan4574d ago

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THQ are probably not the best company to use as an example atm. Especially considering they recently stated that they consider the sales for darksiders 2 disappointing

DragonKnight4574d ago

@Griffin: GTFO here with your sales B.S. No one anywhere brought up sales until you did you hater. You don't want a Vita then don't get one and keep your sales garbage to yourself. We're gamers, not stockholders.

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Ex-dev leader Chris Barrett accuses Sony/Bungie of firing him to avoid a $45M payment

Chris Barrett was one of the prominent developers who was fired a few years ago during the Me Too scandals that hit the game industry.

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gold_drake155d ago

girl, 8 women reported you.

thats how that works. u wrre not "entitled" to anything.

shouldnt have been a creep.

DarXyde155d ago

"While that sounds despicable, Barrett was accused of crossing the line between professional and personal behavior. In the course of its journalistic investigation of the Me Too scandal, Bloomberg interviewed eight people, including multiple women who reported Barrett, as well as other Bungie employees who were either involved in the investigation or spoke to the women involved."

Yeah, sounds like you did it, dawg.

jznrpg155d ago

I’d avoid paying you 45$ mil with all those problems you brought

gold_drake155d ago

thats what i thought too haha

pwnmaster3000155d ago

On who.
8 girls reported him.
He is trying to save by putting blame on something else other then the situation he put himself in

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Here's how PlayStation's 30th anniversary London Tube carriage looks

PlayStation is celebrating its upcoming 30th Anniversary by letting you sit on its logo while riding the Victoria Line in London.

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MaximusPrime_172d ago

Reminds me of Sony's other awesome PS promotion in London, such as OXO tower and London underground roundels. All with shapes replaced with PlayStation's iconic 4 controller shapes.

Awesome promotion, Sony!

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goken172d ago

Awww… i wanna ride that train!

Die hard Xbox fans be like “I’ll catch the next one”

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Kadokawa Confirms Interest From Sony in Official Statement

Kadokawa has confirmed interest from Sony in an official statement, clarifying that nothing has been decided yet.

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lukasmain178d ago

Lock it down Sony and lets get Bloodborne 2 and Demon's Souls 2 cooking.

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Miraak82 178d ago (Edited 178d ago )

I'd rather FS work on ER2 or new Ips that they can actually own just incase they ever break away from Sony if this happens, wouldn't want them to become just Sony ponies for their neglected IPs . On the upside of this though I wouldn't mind having an actually Sony 1st party rpg developer which I feel they're lacking . My feeling are mixed on this without even considering the monopoly they would have on the anime/manga side of things

oldenjon177d ago

Seeing as ER is essentially open world dark souls, do we really need ER2 / ds5 so soon?

DarXyde178d ago

Can't they just be contracted by Sony?

Without the acquisition?

goken178d ago

They can be contracted but… it’s like you can call up a girl/guy/others and hook up now and then, then one day you think to yourself “maybe we should go steady” 😛

GamingSinceForever178d ago

You’re focused on a small portion of the deal. Kadokawa is a large media company which is who Sony is after. FromSoftware is only a portion of the deal.

Asterphoenix178d ago

Well the bigger picture is the novel/manga part of the industry of Kadokawa and Sony owning a good portion of the anime companies in the US . Well Sony would contract them again if they could but From Software is too busy doing its own thing.

CrimsonWing69177d ago

Yea ever since Tango Gameworks got dissolved, I’m not exactly gung-ho on acquisitions.

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neutralgamer1992178d ago

These things never used to leak. Now so much stuff leaks ahead of time

Lionsguard178d ago

Leak? It has to be public information, they're both public companies.

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gold_drake178d ago

currently, the kodakawa enterprise is worth a wooping 4 billion dollars. according to google. might be wrong

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jznrpg178d ago

If/when Sony acquires Kadokawa I hope it means that anime games can start to be a lot more than they are now. The stories are fleshed out they just need to add quality gameplay/environments. It makes financial sense to me since you have anime fans and gamers who would buy these games if they are high quality.

maniacmayhem178d ago

Is Sony trying to be a monopoly and keep games out of the hands of gamers? Or is this different?

jznrpg178d ago

So MS should only be allowed to acquire publishers and Sony should sit there? This is a consequence of MS’s actions. This is why we didn’t want ABK to go through. It’s too late to complain now

maniacmayhem178d ago

Are we going to accuse Sony of the same actions then?

You really believe if ABK didn't go through Sony wouldn't be interested in this company now?

Bless your tender heart

thesoftware730178d ago

That is besides the point, there is stance you took against this type of acquisition/monopoly type situations.

It's about you word and your stance..with the it's ok posture you are taking now shows you only find outrage when it fits your nonsensical fanboy, console warrior BS lol

Your word and "Stances" means very lit

glennhkboy177d ago

The nature is different. Kadokawa is more renounce for their extensive rights in Japanese literature, films & amine. Gaming is actually their least known business. If Sony can take over Kadokawa, Sony will become a major media player in Japan (currently Sony Japan has only a small footprint in Japanese media outside of gaming & amine).

Drakul177d ago

You can play MS games on your PS or PC. But Sony has monopoly mind set; release Sony games only on PS or very rarely on PC.

Lexreborn2177d ago

Anyone who is trying to make someone look like a hypocrite after THEY set the standard is a turd. If you want to try and make it seem like you convinced people into agreeing with your view. You didn’t, the people that were against it STATED they were against it. Then when we were told shut up doesn’t matter what you think NOW you want us to continue to fight when it goes against YOUR interest someone you don’t like is playing by YOUR rules?

Naw, we good… enjoy the game you playing and don’t get mad when the company/entity you hate does it better.

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-Foxtrot178d ago

I thought it was more “you guys allowed MS to buy Zenimax and Activision, two massive publishers so it’s fair game now, why should we be left out”

I hate it but you can’t allow one to do it then make out it’s the end of the world when others do it. It’s shitty but MS opened that avenue so all bets are off now.

maniacmayhem178d ago

So basically it's okay to do it because MS did it, right? I think this is what is known as hypocrisy.

Here's the thing, MS is basically putting all their games on everything and the kitchen sink when you and others claimed they wouldn't.

You actually believe Sony will do the same if they acquire this studio?

You all love to shit on MS when these deals go down but then make up excuses and rights of passage when Sony does it, and this is proof.

goken178d ago

@maniacmayhem

Believe me MS is putting it everywhere not because they want to, but because it doesn’t sell (well) on their own platform (xbox). If they did that, they would lose money, nevermind recuperate their the money they spent buying studios.
Sony on the other hand may or may not have the same problem (probably not).
Hey sony and fans weren’t the ones going “exclusive bad” , they just disagreed MS buying these massive publishers. And since MS did it, let’s just say “to not reciprocate is impolite “

LikAChicken177d ago

@goken @foxtrot

Sooooo...hypocrites...

"hypocrisy is the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's behavior does not conform; pretense."

There's no way you guys believe that Sony wouldn't do this deal before Microsoft bought ActiBlizz. That's not how capitalistic/business industries think.

Vits178d ago (Edited 178d ago )

No, Sony is trying to establish a monopoly on anime streaming, manga, and light novel publication in the Western market while also becoming the largest company in this segment in Japan, replacing Kadokawa in the current triopoly (Kodansha, Hitotsubashi, and Kadokawa).

It’s a completely different ballpark from what Microsoft did. To put it into perspective, even if Microsoft had acquired Zenimax, ABK, EA, Tencent, Take-Two, and Embracer, it still wouldn’t come close to the level of control Sony would achieve in both the Western and Eastern anime/manga markets if they successfully make this purchase.

The closest comparison would be if Disney managed to swallow up both Comcast and Viacom, or if Microsoft had acquired both Sony PlayStation and Nintendo, establishing a monopoly in the console market. That is the level of control we are talking here.

Extermin8or3_178d ago

Except the FTC etc already ruled that anime isn't an industry in its own right. It's a sub genre of a much larger entertainment industry.

Vits177d ago

@Extermin8or3_

Exactly! That’s why this is such a massive problem. The only obstacle between Sony and a full-blown monopoly is how much cash they’re willing to throw around. They’re on track to dominate every anime streaming platform, corner the Western manga market, and seize control of light novel publications. On top of that, they’d cement their place in the tripoly that dictates the flow of source material.

And let’s not pretend Sony’s track record in this “non-industry” inspires confidence. They’ve gutted streaming catalogs, enforced censorship at every turn, and, naturally, hiked up prices for good measure. A monopoly like this is a recipe for disaster even more when a bunch of old-stupid americans don't even get that it is a industry, 3 industries at that.

mkis007178d ago

This is for anime...they have 1 developer people like. Sony for sure has a borderline anime monopoly if this goes through.

VersusDMC178d ago

And the dbz sparking zero developer to be fair.

glennhkboy177d ago

Not exactly.... In terms of Japanese anime, Kadokawa isn't the largest one. Others like Bandi Namco & Sunrise are bigger than Kadokawa. On the other hand, Kadokawa has a very big catalog of Japanese films, like Haven & Earth. Combine this with Sony Film from Hollywood, Sony may have enough films & TV shows (US & Japanese) to start its own steaming service.

Outside_ofthe_Box178d ago

Monopoly, no, as this is nowhere near the size of Bethesda + Activision, but games out of gamers hands, yes. They will mostly likely make their games exclusive when acquired. MS going multiplat ain't out of the kindness of their hearts, but of a necessity from a business perspective.

Also it's not that this is okay because MS did it. This is more of a consequence of allowing MS deal to go through. Should this deal go through? No it shouldn't, but MS literally just bought two publishers. It would be like complaining about Nintendo charging for online when MS and Sony have already been doing it already.

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CrashMania178d ago (Edited 178d ago )

'Or is this different?'

MS spending a whopping 75 billion to acquire dozens of studios and IPs compared to Sony potentially grabbing a handful for a fraction of that price, I'd say so yeah.

We all know what Phil wanted to do with those IPs, but it turns out spending that much money along with plummeting console sales, stagnant gamepass numbers didn't bode well for making everything in exclusive, so it's going the opposite way almost completely now.

porkChop178d ago

I'm not worried about the gaming side of things. But in terms of anime this isn't good. Sony bought out and merged Crunchyroll and Funimation, and they own a bunch of other anime studios. They already own so much of that industry it doesn't make any sense to allow them to swallow up even more.

mkis007178d ago

With how ms was able to purchase acti and bethesda, there is no prayer for this to be blocked. The precedent has been set. Also incoming Republican govt means even MS may be able to do more.

Extermin8or3_178d ago

Anime isn't considered it's own industry. Regulators already ruled awhile ago now that anime was merely a genre within the wider movie/TV series industry.

porkChop177d ago

@mkis

Even with ABK and Bethesda, MS is still a small fraction of the industry. The game industry is massive, no one is remotely close to having a monopoly. This is different. Sony literally bought both of the largest anime platforms and merged them together, on top of buying a bunch of separate anime studios. They'd have a very clear monopoly if they add Kadokawa on top of that. I'm not sure Kadokawa has any reason to sell, and I don't think it would get blocked if they did buy them out. I just don't think it's good for anime.

SoloZelot90178d ago

I think they're interested in kadokawa and are also interested in continuing the partnership that started with demons souls...that game that brought from software to fame.

anast178d ago

It's different. Hypocrisy is not a sin.

goken177d ago

To be a hypocrite is to give others the impression that we are holier than we actually are. It is the same as being false, or telling a lie. Jesus pronounced a curse on hypocrites seven times in Mt. 23:13-29.

gold_drake178d ago

i think the big difference, imo, is that Activision was just soo massive of a publisher/dev team. they had alot of really good, really big franchises that would have absolutely changed the gaming space if they would have stayed exclusive to MS.

i looked into Kadokawas franchises, and while they have good stuff, its not comparable to actlivision in the slightest.

aquistions only suck if people are being layed off in the masses. and thats what happened with Activision unfortunatly. well see what happens with this one.

Lionsguard178d ago

This is why we the MS acquisitions were frowned upon on the first place because it just starts this tit for tat buying war that benefits no one.

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