Update: Mass Effect 3 Wii U edition will run in 720p

A recent report claimed that the Mass Effect 3 Wii U edition would run at 1080p - making it the best looking version released on consoles. Unfortunately, this information has turned out to be false; the CEO of Straight Right Tom Crago has stated that the Wii U port will not run at 1080p.

[decrypt]

"Mass Effect 3 Wii U won’t support 1080p"

Console gamers dont care about graphics. Running at 1080p or not doesnt really matter.

[Hatsune-Miku]

Can someone please post a lot of the fanboys touting about how powerful the Wii u is when rumours were that M.E.3 was said to be in 1080p.

I want a Wii u not because of what I wish it could do, but because I know what its capable of and I want it because its another video game system. I accept the Wii u as it is for being about as powerful as consoles this generation. I see a lot of people trying to make the Wii u to be something bigger than it is. It's pathetic to lie to yourself and then try to trick and convince others about something that isn't so.

I bought the Wii and I was disappointed in it because of rubbish hype and lies by Nintendo and fans. I bought the 3ds because I thought it was as powerful as an Xbox 360 when fanboys and developers said so.

The Wii u isn't tremendously powerful like Reggie or fanboys say but I'm buying it.

[yabhero]

Lol being 2-3x more powerful than ps3/360 isnt tremendous... It's actually on the lower side...
We should expect more

[corrus]

Very good post

[--Onilink--]

i dont see why a launch game(a port actually) not supporting 1080p is a sign of how powerful a console is, yet people here just like to look at the negative stuff. Thats why its not even worth trying to argue with them.

If all we had gotten this gen was the same we got with the launch titles, we would have pretty ugly games, and thats not the case.

The WiiU could be running a GTX690 and cost $100 that they would still be complaining because they dont have anything better to do.

[LOL_WUT]

Lots of Damage control going on. It's funny how just a couple of days ago people were boasting about 1080p for this game. Then this pops up and they all changed their tune.

@ Hatsune-Miku well said

[DeadlyFire]

@yabhero.
Its more than enough juice to run current gen games at 1080.

A port is a port. Its not getting a rework. Its just getting tweaked a bit here and there with new elements. At 720p it should be running 60+ fps.

I would understand the no power claims if this was a game built entirely for the WiiU and not ported. Even so first games could have been built on an early development kit with reduced specs compared to the final.

[ALLWRONG]

Mass Effect doesn't run 1080 on PS3 or 360, they barely run at 720.

[-Mika-]

1080P does matter.Alot of gamers been wanting 1080p this gen but sadly it just couldn't easily happen because of the hardware of the current consoles.

The WiiU is suppose to be a "next gen console" and I use that term loosely because It can't even do 1080p even though it coming out 6-7 years after the ps3 and 360. That just sad. You can not even defend that.

[LOGICWINS]

The average gamer wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p at glance. To even attempt to notice a difference, ud have to be looking for differences between two different monitors....and unless you work for Lens of Truth or have no life, you won't be doing this(I can already guess which group you fall into).

I don't plan on getting a Wii U at the moment, but not because something as trivial as lack of 1080p support. I'm more concerned about a lack of titles that I want to play.

If I recall, Sony promised a 1080p gaming revolution for the PS3, yet only a small handful of games even support 1080p. Why on N4G haven't I heard any vigorous complaints towards Sony like the ones I'm hearing now?

[yabhero]

I missed the part where he said WiiU can't do 1080p... This game doesn't support 1080p

[Campy da Camper]

@logic yes, I can tell the difference. I have quite the large screen and there is a noticeable difference between 720 and 1080. Sure, if u play on 48 inches or lower then its hard to tell but once you get in the 60-84 inch range it becomes noticeable.

[Jazz4108]

Whats funny is there are ps3 fans on here that think sony will have games on the ps4 in 4k.

[PopRocks359]

@Mika

This is why people accuse you of being a troll. The Wii U is capable of running games at 1080p. Toki Tori 2 is already confirmed to be running at that resolution.

Nintendo said that games at launch would be 720p and that later titles would be made in 1080p. You honestly expected a port of a half a year old game that's being handled by a developer not even remotely associated with Mass Effect 3 to suddenly be rendered in a resolution it was not developed in?

Just because one game is confirmed to not run at 1080p doesn't mean future ones won't. There's not enough to prove that the Wii U won't have 1080p games in the future.

[Godmars290]

Really? Could've sworn that all people have been doing this gen is complaining about graphics and resolution.

[Carl_Shocker]

Well it's not like graphics are everything but when you have an old game ported to a next gen console...you kind of would expect at least 1080p support.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Exactly, which makes the Wii U version a simple port then.

[zebramocha]

What are you talking about?depending on the quality of the port devs can up the resolution .

[Xperia_ion]

There is a lot of flip flopping going on here. I'm confused : /

[WeskerChildReborned]

You obviously don't know gamers then, i actually want the games to run in native 1080p at least.

[yewles1]

Wow, how many of the same people from 3 days ago will comment on this? *runs*

[GribbleGrunger]

This is EXACTLY why I'm constantly telling people not to scoff. Some didn't want to believe it, some believed it blindly while the sane amongst us just waited to see. This is now going to run and run and to be honest, it's the fanboys fault.

[stuna1]

Exactly!!! It will fit in nicely with the consoles of today, but those running around with made up or, guesstimated specs should just wait around for the rundown of capabilities of the WII U from nintendo like they tell the rest of us to do!

On top of everything this game was touted to be the best experience on consoles because you get to use the pad for certain actions! Kind of reminds of the catch-phrase "Better with Kinect".

[joeorc]

I wanted to wait for Nintendo to issue the full spec's about the WiiU before i weighed in on it i find it's best to wait to know what im buying with my money, i do know the chip's are being made by IBM, but what we do not know is how much dedicated Vram, system Ram, system Bus etc.

Sony and Microsoft are really good about releasing that stuff Nintendo on the other hand does not,and you have to scrounge for the info..lol.

Not to say Nintendo does not have good game machine's. That's not the point it's just that the way Nintendo Hides some of their spec's like for example the 3DS has 6 MB of Vram! and an ARM 11 CPU, YET THEY CHARGED $249.00 for that.

While the PSVita had ARM Cortex Quad Core A9's and 128 MB of Dedicated Vram. and they charged $249.00 for their system.

[Interloper]

You called down the thunder... now reap the whirlwind.

[Jadedz]

*Shakes fist angrily*

From my last comment - I wasn't hyping the rumored "1080p" resolution. It was the 4 player co-op, with asymmetrical gameplay.

[Darukain]

Even though it's a shame it won't run at 1080p. Im not sure if it is the hardware as it was developed for 720p from the start and is a port.

[TheGrimReaper]

Even if the textures would be designed for a 720p resolution a native 1080p resolution would help a lot to minimize Aliasing.
And well, ME3 wasn't limited to 1280*720 on a PC.
I think the problem is either hardware-related or the devs porting it are having problems with Wii U.
The porting problems shouldn't be the reason imho
-> Wii U easy to develop for (different devs said this)
-> Unreal Engine 3 which should work great on a quite "simple" and PC like hardware (if the rumours and articles of Wii U hardware are correct)

Only time will tell...

[ninjahunter]

Right, lets make a big fuss over what is to be expected.
x_X

[jay2]

lolllllllllllllllllll says it all about the wii u

[SKUD]

It would be down right silly to expect any game running at 1080p on the wii-u. High end gaming Isn't what nintendo is investing in.

[FarCryLover182]

If this is next-gen console and running a current gen title.... shouldn't running a current gen game be a breeze and 1080p be easy?

[TheGrimReaper]

2.25 times pixel count...
Without knowing the exact specs of Wii U, I don't think anyone of us can tell if it is easy to accomplish 1080p on a AAA game.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Mind you its a port...questionable.

[krisq]

Of course it won't. Anyone expected differently??

[yewles1]

Remember, you said "anyone"...

http://n4g.com/news/1071031...

[Xperia_ion]

Look at the first comment, lol. I'm really jealous of that guys bubbles. I might jump ship to the Nintendo side to get some.

Everyone should read each comment on your link, comedy gold.

[krisq]

I pity the fool. +Bubble.

[specialguest]

(My comment from last ME3 wiiU article)Not only is it playing the game in full 1080p, but keep in mind that it also had to render a secondary image on the tablet control.

**EDIT**

Not only is it playing the game in full 720p, but keep in mind that it also has to render a secondary image on the tablet controller.

Heyy, lets be fair. We all get misled by inaccurate information all the time with all past and present consoles.

[Phoenix76]

am i the only person here who finds it amusing to see so many Gamers getting up in arms over an obvious port job on EA's part. 'Oh no, this is terrible, it doesnt come in 1080!!!' Well, shock, gasp, horror ppl!!!

Look guys, it going to be a 6 month old 'new' release title on a new console. What did u really expect??

And truthfully now...... How many of you all have played ME3 on your Xbox's, PS3's and PC's already?

And how many of u are going to be stupid enough to rush out and buy a new console just so u can play a old 'new' game that you've prob already done???

im chuckling

But thats IMO

[Freakazoid2012]

I guess all the terrible ports are proof of how inferior PS3 is to 360. Obviously since multi platform games almost always run better on 360 it is final proof that PS3 is the weaker of the 2. At least going by Sony fanboy logic in this article.

Comments like "if its superior it should run it better" Yes that is true just like how if PS3 was more powerful than 360 Skyrim would run better on PS3...

Oh this is amusing. I'll remember these comments for sure and bring them up in the next 360 vs PS3 argument article.

We now know beyond a shadow of a doubt that PS3 is inferior because its ports are inferior and this is from the mouths of Sony fanboys.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Nice try buddy but your analogy fails to include important variables like
A) though more powerful, the ps3 is harder to develop for. Thus inexperienced devs will have problems developing for it.
B) Bethsada can't make a with minimal bugs to save their lives. Let alone make it bug free on a console like the PS3
C) the WiiU has been rumored to be a breeze to develop for, so there should be no excuse for not making it 1080p if it's possible.

[nerdkiller]

i agree with you kobe357, freakazoid is just a nintendo butt licker he actually believes that nintendo thinks he exists so he cant bare the thought that nintendo can make mistakes like the 3d0 eye crap or the power glove. if sony or msoft or nintendo make crap i wont be bias ill say there making crap

[ozzywazzy]

PM from this tard.

Freakazoid2012 4d ago Block
"ME3 confirmed 1080p so much for Wii U being weak
Now that should put the rumors to rest about mediocre specs from blind haters like you. Funny how you were so convinced in your post and now we have proof you are wrong. I am sure though you will just move on to the next BS reason to hate or not accept it as proof. Doesnt matter to me as long as the games are fun but I love it when haters like you are proven wrong."

Well don't you feel stupid. :)

[joeorc]

"We now know beyond a shadow of a doubt that PS3 is inferior because its ports are inferior and this is from the mouths of Sony fanboys."

or ..or we know the many developer game engines are made for the PC and Xbox360, and were not made for the PS3 in mind..oooh imagine that a game engine that does not take advantage of the innards of the PS3's system design!

stop spreading diatribe, you are making people loose IQ point's just by spewing some of the stuff your writing.

Which goes for the Nintendo WiiU also or for any platform, you can make a game engine for a number of platforms, it does not mean your game engine is the best for every platform!

thus a dedicated game engine to the WiiU system's innards may offer much better system performance than a number of multi-platform game engines. Just like the PS3 dedicated Game Engines may outperform Many Multi-Platform Game engines that are produced by 3rd Party Game publisher's and 3rd Party Game developer's.

[greenpowerz]

Although I don't think the Wii U will be as powerful as the 720 and PS4 by far and find nintendo fans nieve and hostile at times, a 720p port has little to do with the capability of its hardware.

Non Wii U fans are getting carried away with the assumptions about the Wii U hardware not being capable.

Does an average looking 480p/580p game prove the PS3 and 360's capability?

[jboy]

My doctor says ME3 will be 1080p

"Eat it Fanboys"

[N6]

Disappointing, but if it can upscale to 1080p then its better than nothing.

[PopRocks359]

And here come all the trolls.

The news is disappointing, but then it falls in line with a previous rumor that EA's support of this console will be nothing short of half-assed.

[LOL_WUT]

Trolls, EA's fault, spin... Nintendo in your eyes never do no wrong.

http://n4g.com/news/1071031...

Just glad this rumor got put to rest.

[PopRocks359]

Nice try pal. But I am very capable of being critical of Nintendo. Among my friends, no one was more angry at them than I was during 2007 and '08 when their E3s did nothing but showcase casual games. At least since then they try to play the middle man and showcase casual AND core games.

I was also particularly upset when Nintendo refused to make a deal with Microsoft so that Rare games could be put on the Virtual Console and XBLA.

In fact, I'd probably be more critical of the company nowadays if you and the other trolls weren't always blowing the criticism out of proportion. This article for example is hardly a reason to throw mud at Nintendo.

[Qrphe]

Why do people think changing the resolution to 1080p is something very complicated for a dev?

If you have the power, it's not complicated.

This doesn't mean the Wii U isn't able to run other AAA 1080p games, it just means it would take a lot more resources than originally rumored (if not even Nintendo can do it so easily).

[Ck1x]

You my friend are thinking of a game just being upscaled to 1080p which isn't true 1080p! If a game is to truly support that image quality, the texture samples and artwork must reflect that resolution scale. Otherwise it's faux 1080p... Which is why people that know what they are speaking of ask if the game is native 720p or 1080p, or just being upscaled. I know most on this site would quote that the current systems have been doing 720p for years. But that's not entirely true for many or most of the games for that matter. These top AAA games coming out later in these consoles life cycle are almost all being rendered at a resolution under 720p and being upscaled to a resolution higher than what the game was originally created in. Which is a work-around for the hardware limitations that developers are facing on those platforms.

[TronEOL]

As much as I'm not expecting the Wii U to be able to compete with the PS4 and Xbox∞, I know enough to realize a port doesn't mean anything when it comes to what a console can do.

For example, would you base your PS3/Xbox360's capabilities off Call of Duty Black Ops 2 or The Last of Us and Halo 4? It's usually the exclusives that will push the console. So all we can do is wait.

But a word of advice to those hardcore Nintendo fans, don't set your hopes too high. You'll just ruin it for yourself.

[Ck1x]

So the developer isn't taking the effort to support a higher resolution on the console. It has no bearing on the WiiU system itself, but EA... I'm more surprised by the studio handling the port though, "Straight Right?" I have never heard of them before this and couldn't even name one game that they've made. But anyhow I'm sure this thread will be in the 100`s of comments by days end though!
720p, 1080p I'm just ready for the system to launch already...

[DevilishSix]

It is supposed to launch in the next couple months, which would seem like the console should be in production now at factories. So, why no official spec release yet? Is Ninty ashamed of the systems power and hopes to quietly get the specs out?

Anyone else find it odd that we know so little about a console nearing launch?

[Ck1x]

Unless a 3rd party developer leaks the specs, Nintendo will never give out the exact hardware that they utilized in this system. That's how they've always been and it's not going to change anytime before the launch of this console either. Nintendo has learned their lessons from the past about info leaking out and have even more strict NDA's then ever before this time...

[Shok]

People really need to get their stories straight. How could Nintendo Power mess up this badly?

[Qrphe]

That's actually the only true issue at heart with this news piece: a reliable source messing up. But I guess it's easy to mess up when a CEO himself tells you a bit of info.

[Ck1x]

I agree and Nintendo Power, one would think that they should be as credible as they come when it comes to being a source for Nintendo news!

[Miacosa]

Not surprised will upscale like all the other versions other than PC that is.

[Xof]

Does it really matter what resolution the game displays at when it's such a godawful game?

[DivineAssault]

So much bragging & hype at first & now justification for the truth being let out.. smh.. Everyone knew it wasnt going to output native 1080p if they cant even get mario bros U or rayman legends to do it..

[PopRocks359]

Don't be so smug. Were this news true like Nintendo Power said, you wouldn't even have a comment to leave.

[DivineAssault]

but its not so i do.. No worries tho as i dont intend to follow nintendo news anymore.. Thank the big N for making me lose interest in their future products.. Im sure there will be other potential customers that walk away from em as well after all the lies about gearing to the core players.. watch this video & tell me who u think nintendo is marketing toward.. No hard feelings bro.. Im just very disappointed in wii u & know what to expect now

http://nintendoeverything.c...

[ChickeyCantor]

Toki Tori does it...So it pretty much abolishes the point you are trying to make here.

[MacDonagh]

Okay guys. Let's be real here and I'm just going to say it without being disingenuous. I'm not even going to talk about the ending of Mass Effect 3. I'll just explain how the game itself isn't very good.

Combat is problematic when you map 4-5 functions to the A button, lack of ammo, ammo glitching so you can't pick it up, terrible hit-box detection where headshots don't connect, repetitive enemy types, difficulty spikes and the cover system isn't very intuitive.

Cup sizes increased for no real reason other than to placate the fans who only want to bang their love interests. Pointless scanning sections to increase a readiness level that ultimately didn't really matter anyway and to artificially lengthen the game.

Jessica Chobot and her utter pointless existence on the Normandy when they could've gotten a character (Emily Wong) in the ME universe to jump on the ship if the player so chose to have her. Not to mention you could slip it to Chobot after hardly any effort whatsoever.

Auto-conversations where you have no way to steer said conversation. Kai Leng. Simple question, but if you have a walking Deus-Ex cosplayer who can do absurd things, why even bother resurrecting Shepard? It's clear to me that he was far more capable than my Shepard and you wouldn't need to waste so much money.

So it doesn't even matter if the game is in 1080p because it's not even a passable shooter if you're being honest with yourself.

[PopRocks359]

Eh, I disagree. I played the game on the 360 and enjoyed it. I didn't love it and it wasn't all that memorable, but it was fun, to say the least.

The only gripe I had is that my 360 controller sucked so I tended to move whenever I was in cover when I did not want to. The multiplayer was awesome too. I don't see why everyone complained about it.

[MacDonagh]

We'll agree to disagree then PopRocks359.

[jacksheen0000]

Guys,
I highly doubt Nintendo would release a huge lineup of games to output native 1080p, until the nextbox/ps4 comes out.

"Save the best for last"

[jacksheen0000]

Oh I forgot to mention...

Mass Effect 3 was developed to run 780p on older gaming console(360/ps3), so to scale it up to 1080p means the dev would have to use higher anti aliasing to blur out the textures or the graphics would end up looking blocky.

Higher RES textures = less anti aliasing = less work on the GPU
Lower RES textures = more anti aliasing = more work on the GPU

[TheGrimReaper]

Please read the first two pages of this article ( http://www.beyond3d.com/con...

Please don't mix up Anti-Aliasing with texture filtering -.-"

[wiiulee]

lol...even without 1080p the developers themselves confirm the wiiu version is the best looking...why all the hate on the wiiu or trying to persuade people away from it....fanboys know nintendo has a goldmine on their hands and will most likely win next generation as well after wii's trashing of xbox and ps3

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

Nintendo Power were about to be cancelled maybe they wanted to go out with a BANG or with a STAB.

I actually don't care about the DPI, DPI does not help game play. But I guess for people who do ME3 running at 1080p would be worth a re-buy? Really?

I am going to buy ME3 because I haven't played it before at any resolution. -And the controller looks pretty-pretty.

[WeLive]

Missing the point.. Nobody wants to re-buy anything.. Just curious as to how well the wii u operates..

[Rock_On_PS4]

ME2 and ME3 were both released on PS3 and people complained that ME was not released on PS3 and they had to make do with a comic explaining ME.
Now Wii U gets only ME3 and gamers will have comics explaining ME and ME2.

[frankiebeans]

all games in the next gen should run at 1080p 60fps if it cant do what a high end pc can do today its truly not a next gen system.

[baraka007]

I played ME 1 at 1080P years ago... not sure why you ppl think me3 can't run at that res. Most pc gamers are running it at even higher than 1080P