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PS4 Drops Sharply in Japanese Hardware Sales Chart After Tax Hike; Natural Doctrine Flops Hard

Like every week Media Create released its hardware sales chart, and it’s a slow week pretty much across the board, with the PS4 in pretty bad shape since it's the newest of the bunch.

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DanielGearSolid3677d ago (Edited 3677d ago )

Before anybody starts overreacting

This is after the tax hike in Japan, and it affected every single Console/Handheld

For comparison of b4 and after tax hike (before in parentheses)

Japan Famitsu - 3DS 32k (57k), Vita 23k (41k), PS4 15k (24k), PS3 12k (17k), WiiU 8k (13k)

Abriael3677d ago

True, but the flop of Natural Doctrine is a little worrysome. I didn't expect it to do super good, but not even in the top 20? That's dire.

DanielGearSolid3677d ago

When I commented the Natural Doctrine part of the article wasn't there. Lol

The tax hike info wasn't there either lol
I guess my comment is useless now

But yea Natural Doctrine just plain flopped

Abriael3677d ago (Edited 3677d ago )

I guess one of the reasons why is that the PS4 version of Natural Doctrine wasn't advertised at all.

And that's not surprising as it looks pretty much the same as the PS3 version, just a little cleaner. Kadokawa really dropped the ball there.

I'll play it when it comes out west, and probably enjoy it because I love the genre, but it looks plain nasty on every platform.

Mind you, I didn't mean that your post was inaccurate. It's 100% sure that the tax hike had an influence on sales. As a matter of fact, I better put that in the headline, as it's relevant.

Eonjay3677d ago

I have never heard of a 5% tax hike. That is outrageous. Our rates went up 1% a few years ago and people were out for blood.

Muerte24943677d ago

Gotta love that attention, grabbing title. Turns out most, if not all, systems were affected by this. But I like DualShockers so oh well.

DanielGearSolid3677d ago

@Eonjay

From wat I understand it was a 3% hike

From 5% to 8%

Could be wrong tho

The Great Melon3677d ago (Edited 3677d ago )

@Eonjay

Another 2% increase is coming October 2015 to raise it to 10%. A 5% increase in a couple years is pretty crazy. Good luck Japan.

UltimateMaster3677d ago

Natural Doctrine is a no-name game.
Who would want to play that when they could play Infamous?
Come on, even Japanese knows they're behind in graphics.

UltimateMaster3677d ago

They are waiting for Final Fantasy XV and Metal Gear Solid 5 Phantom Pain to come.
There's no point to buy the system now and wait for these games to come when there's still a bunch of PS3 games being released on it.

BLuTheSecond3677d ago

I'm probably missing something here but unit sales suffered because their sales tax went up from 5% to 8%?

Here in NYC our sales tax is 8.875%. Are they really being that stingy over 3%?

tee_bag2423677d ago

I'm here living in Japan - I can confirm it's an increase to 8% from 5%... for now

knifefight3677d ago

@ BLuTheSecond -

Re: "Here in NYC our sales tax is 8.875%. Are they really being that stingy over 3%? "

But keep in mind...
1) Your sales tax in NYC doesn't apply to food, clothing, insurance, your water bill, school tuition, and medicine. In Japan, it does. The cost of almost everything has gone up.

2) What if your sales tax in NYC HADN'T been 8.75% until now. What if it had been 5%? Would you suddenly think it is awesome and OK to jump to 8% overnight, and have the government planning to move to 10% next October? When you've been living a certain way for so long (the tax has been 5% for the last 17 years!), a price hike messes with your finances.

3) Proportions!
Japan moving from 5 to 8 is the same as you moving from 8 to 14! Imagine if New York moved to 14% sales tax tomorrow. Yeah. People wouldn't be happy.
And yet someone else in Toronto could say to you "That's nothing! I pay about that already! Stop complaining!"

4) The prices.
You can say your tax is "higher" but a higher tax rate on what prices? Is your gas $7 a gallon like Japan's? Are your PS4 games $70-$80 like Japan's?
I'd rather pay a 9% tax on $60 than an 8% tax on $80, myself.
Just look at the prices on Japanese games http://dengekionline.com/so...

There are VITA games going for almost $70!
(You can convert to dollars on xe.com)

There are A LOT more factors here than just the 3% you are zooming in on.

Gekko363677d ago (Edited 3677d ago )

@All

OT: Bit of a dull article, first off no one cares about Japan any more... unless you live there or trade there. Japan's economy has been steadily slipping over the past few years and the tax hike is not a surprise at all.

On the subject of Sales Tax, in the UK we have 20% VAT for non essentials, used to be 17.5%, dropped to 15% for 12 months and then it was whacked up to 20% by the Tories (UK equivalent of Repulicans - B@st@rds to a man!).

The reaction here in the UK was... fine, let's get on with it. Nobody was out for blood... it just is what it is. We still get good services from councils and of course we have our beloved National Heath Service (Americans take note)

So maybe it's an American thing, to not want to pay any taxes but have the roads magically fix themselves.

As for the Japanese Tax increase, I'm sure the sales figures will bounce back in a month or so. Nothing to get your knickers in a twist over.

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Neonridr3677d ago

It won't look good if say next week the PS4 is outsold by the PS3. It'll be the PSP - Vita all over again.

DanielGearSolid3677d ago

Think you're overreacting...

Ps3 still has a huge amount of support in Japan

And is alot cheaper, not that surprising that it would still be selling well

LordMaim3677d ago

Really? You're predicting doom and gloom for the leading console this generation? Have another donut.

Neonridr3677d ago

@Daniel - no I understand why the PS3 is still selling, still lots of quality software. But you never want to see the predecessor selling more than the newer model. The PSP outsold the Vita for almost the first 2 years of the Vita's lifespan, something I don't see happening with the PS4. Sales will definitely pick up once quality software releases.

Hicken3677d ago

Hey, don't give him donuts.

Anyway, the PS3 has more games- especially Japan focused ones- coming out for it than any other console this year(Wii U might be close though). But I guess that couldn't be a reason. Or being cheaper than the PS4.

Nope, there MUST be doom! There HAS to be gloom!

sonic9893677d ago

i think its more about the games for me at least the only game that i loved was infamous second son ( i love the series ) and rayman legends sense i love platforming games other than that i am interested in no other game dont get me wrong the TLOS is a great game even though i didnt play it but its not my taste along with uncharted .
i would love them to announce a sly cooper or ratchet and clank game soon or maybe drop the mega ton Crash bandicoot fingers crossed .
so again its more about the culture and the games dont expect everyone to like the cinematic games or like those million shooters its not like that but rest assured Sony always has a great variety they know what they are doing for sure .

N4g_null3677d ago

It must be collecting dust over. Killzone and cod are no shows except to foreigners. There really is nothing they would like out.

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Brazz3677d ago

not every sigle console, Xbox 360 level are normal, 276 is xbox standard in japan =P

Magicite3677d ago

if PS4 is struggling, then X1 better not launch there at all.

VforVideogames3677d ago

Lets start with the excuses first shall we?

callahan093677d ago

Based on the numbers DanielgearSolid posted, the PS4 actually did quite well. Here is the percentage drop in sales from last week's numbers for each of those:

Vita: -43.9%
3DS: -43.9%
WiiU: -38.5%
PS4: -37.5%
PS3: -29.4%

So the PS4 and PS3 had the smallest drops.

system223677d ago

its ok if the ps4 doesn't blow our minds each and every week. don't worry. people still like it.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3677d ago (Edited 3677d ago )

it has the least percentage because it drop and raise in sales in the week prior to tax hike.

callahan093676d ago

I am flabbergasted at the disagrees. What are you people trying to say? I don't get it. I'm pointing out that week-over-week, the PS4 didn't drop as much as most of the other devices, which is a fact. What's there to disagree with?

system223677d ago

ha. i love that these are the kinds of comments that normal people feel they have to make to stave off fanboy lunacy. Thank you for commenting intelligently and factually.

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randomass1713677d ago

The author really should have included ALL hardware and not just mention the PS4. :/

3-4-53677d ago

Don't worry, they tried these same scare tactics with Wii U as well. Things are going to be fine.

Apex133677d ago

Tax hike or no tax hike it feel sharply after the first week.

Personally I have the PS4 and it's not doing anything innovative. It's just another games machine that I enjoy.

Deltaohio3676d ago

IMO this just shows how much japan really doesn't care about console gaming (regardless of who it is. MS or Sony).
I actually live in Japan and for a while they have talked about the tax hikes. The whole country was literally just buying stuff ahead of time just to have bought it cheaper before the tax hike. If this was 1 year in to the console life I wouldn't be saying anything but the fact that the console just launched and so few japanese care to buy it before the tax hike says a lot. If it was that popular ppl would be buying it in hordes. Now this sounds like an anti Sony spiel but in reality this is just anti console. If MS launches in Japan later this year they will waist so much money. The japanese just don't care about consoles like that let alone a foreign one that's more expensive.

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ArbitorChief3677d ago

Well when you don't have compelling software, that's what happens, just look at the first few months of the Wii U.

Dark113677d ago

Wii u still struggling to sell in japan.
even with titles like Monster hunter and mario and pikmin.

Concertoine3677d ago

Yeah but it didnt struggle when those titles were first out. You need a steady stream of games to sell systems consistently. Stuff like FFXV and mario kart 8 will raise the baseline though

nypifisel3677d ago

TV consoles are dead in Japan. They're all about them handhelds now.

Dark113677d ago (Edited 3677d ago )

Even if PS4 flopped in japan like the wii u .. PS4 will be still selling more than great worldwide.

Edit: lol what with the disagrees? PS4 is selling well worldwide and that is a fact.

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Brazz3677d ago

haters my friend...haters, they need hate.

hollabox3677d ago

Japan is fast becoming an 2nd tier console market as the gaming population shifts from consoles to mobile devices. I can see Japanese companies like Nintendo and Sony not even releasing their next consoles in Japan if the trend continues. Sony already delayed the PS4 release when usually their console products launch first in Japan.

No_Limit3677d ago (Edited 3677d ago )

Because the diehard like yourself keep using the "Worldwide sales" card if the situation is not to your liking. This is about Sales in Japan and Not about the World just like NPD is about US sales and I have seen many posts similar to yours in those similar threads. How about sticking to topic and talk about the situation at hand for once.

GW2123677d ago

Pot meet kettle. You're a huge xbox fanboy that rarely stays on topic. Go play titanfall or something. I'll be playing titanfall as well but with adults and not children who troll endlessly on a product that their mommy and daddy bought them.

No_Limit3677d ago

@GW212,

LOL, don't even. By the look at your gamertag on Live it seems like you have no friend and have a gamerscore of 180G and you play a total of 1 minute each of Ryse and Titanfall about 15 days ago. Dude what happen man, it seems like you are playing by yourself as I don't see any adults or children on your list at all.

The simple lesson here is don't troll when you can't back it up.

Here is your gamertag info for you to review since you haven't even look at your XB1 (or your friend's XB1) for like 2 weeks now and thought you might needed a reminder of how it look like. :)

http://i59.tinypic.com/vpbx...
http://i57.tinypic.com/23ks...

ErcsYou3677d ago

@ NoLimit. I think you might have crushed troll on the bottom of your shoe.. That's how you call somebody out on their BS. It made me smile. For the record I still dislike you.. =)

lilbroRx3677d ago (Edited 3677d ago )

The Wii U has actually been doing rather decently in Japan especially when compared to the PS4 AND the PS3 in the same time frame.

system223677d ago (Edited 3677d ago )

its true. it sells well more often than not. japan loves playstation especially. im sure this is nothing but a money thing. the one thing though is that x1 has been outselling the ps4 in the US recently. whether thats due to desire or more availability i dunno. Regardless, i don't think the ps4 has anything to worry about any time soon.

DanManDantheMan3677d ago

Because you're trying to unnecessarily snub the Wii U like a fanboy.

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DEATHxTHExKIDx3677d ago

Not rlly surprising. Nothing rlly enticing software wise yet.

candy_mafia3677d ago

Wait....

Isn't it always slow with next gen launches?

Why do some people overreact like it's a new phenomenon?

#chillpills

JuleyJules3677d ago

Exactly! Didn't we hear that what happened to Wii U wouldn't happen to PS4 when the 'next-gen' console launched in Japan. When is this supposed to happen btw? Wii U's launch is Japan has been way better than PS4 which is selling like crazy everywhere else!

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