The Xbox One will not surpass the PS4 this generation – The math and being realistic

The Eccentric Gamer writes: "The Xbox One will never surpass the PS4 during the current-gen console wars in terms of total sales. Looking at the latest numbers available, there is no doubt this whole generation will belong to the PS4, as the Xbox One is just too far behind.

Here is why looking at the math and being realistic. Lets break the delusion please and accept the fact."

[Sillicur]

Gotta agree with this, the Xbox One just stands no chance at the moment

[CptEccentric]

Just keep in mind im not saying any singular console is better than the other one, Im simply stating its impossible for the Xbox One to come back

[Foehammer]

Exactly

And no one ever expects a product selling in 42 Countries to outsell a product in 100.

In an apples to apples comparison like the US sales are very close, quite impressive when you consider the X1 was 25% more expensive for 7 months.

[Gazondaily]

Yeah its not going to happen. The X1 is securely set in second place where I think it needs to be in order for MS to feel pressured to deliver quality content.

[mikeslemonade]

The fact that people even think the race will be close is enough stupidity. It's gonna be like 110 mil vs 45 mil.

[CaptainObvious878]

I wouldn't say it's impossible, but extremely unlikely.

But that's a good thing for MS to be in second place because then they will continue to try to appease the gamers.

Look what happened last gen when they thought they were winning. They virtually dumped exclusive support for the 360 and designed their new console with draconian, anti gamer policies.

Believe me MS fans, you want MS to say in second.

[badz149]

@Foe

I admire your tenacity by clinging to that "42 vs 100" for so long now. but just think about this; aside from China where the PS4 hasn't officially released yet, there is no market even within that 41 countries that the Xbone is leading. not in US, not in UK, let alone anywhere else.

so, how is 42 vs 100 even relevant?

[n4rc]

OK wow... Gonna jump in here with some logic and common sense for people..

1) Xbox can certainly catch up, only an idiot fanboy would think the race is over after a year and a few million units... Unlikely? For sure.. But not impossible

2) the 40 vs 100 stupidity... Are you kids trolling or what?

Yes, the lead may exist (I don't follow it) in those 42 countries.. But how is it relevant? Easy! Do the math on countries they both compete.. That's the fair comparison, now add the other 60 and see the relevance..

Take away markets Xbox isn't competing in, the lead shrinks.. How the hell is that confusing people?

Fanboys man... A crazy group of people to be sure lol

[Pogmathoin]

Everyone hammers Foe, who is admittedly dishing out stupid comments, but then mikessaltwater comments get plenty of agrees for maybe more complete rubbish.... jeez, at least be fair and acknowledge those who also talk trash..... X1 will not catch PS4, it does not mean there is not a place for it.....

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

@n4rc

Well we now know that the Playstation 4 is outselling the Xbox One in Japan. (No brainer)

The bulk of sales for both consoles come from Europe and North America and the Xbox One is being outsold in both regions. Using VGChartz as a source, (Loosely, I might add since there is no other source) The Playstation 4 has sold 13 million in Europe and North America while the Xbox One has sold 8 million in North America and Europe.

Here's a list of countries in Europe where both are available, side-by-side comparison:

PS4 / Xbox One
Austria / Austria
Belgium / Belgium
Czech Republic / Czech Republic
Denmark / Denmark
Finland / Finland
France / France
Greece / Greece
Germany / Germany
Hungary / Hungary
Ireland / Ireland
Italy / Italy
Luxembourg /
Malta /
Netherlands / Netherlands
New Zealand / New Zealand
Norway / Norway
Poland / Poland
Portugal / Portugal
Russia / Russia
/ Slovakia
Spain / Spain
Sweden / Sweden
Switzerland / Switzerland
United Kingdom / United Kingdom

We all know the PS4 is ahead in North America and why, but the Xbox One is available in one country less than the PS4 in Europe, but the PS4 is ahead by 4 million. I don't think that lead has anything to do with the PS4 being available in two countries that the Xbox One isn't, Luxembourg(543,202) and Malta(Population 423,282). Keep in mind that the PS4 is also outselling the Xbox One by about 1 million consoles in N.A. What these figures mean is this: 5 MILLION OF THE PS4's LEAD COMES FROM COUNTRIES WHERE BOTH CONSOLES ARE AVAILABLE. Since the PS4's lead is 7 to 8 million, the rest of the PS4's lead is probably coming from Japan, Australia, and the Middle East.

These numbers say one thing...

THE 100 TO 42 COUNTRIES ARGUMENT IS RIDICULOUS!!!

[nix]

Finally.

One article to rule all the other articles.

#getoverit #reality

[darthv72]

I hope people understand that the high sales numbers of the PS1, PS2 and even the Wii were all due to having a lower point of entry on the consumer.

That means that each one of those platforms started hitting its highs when the price of the unit was around $200 and the games were averaging $30-40.

Average consumers don't buy because of brand loyalty (early adopters do) they buy when the price is cheap enough to afford not only the system but the games that go with it. Every console generation has followed that same trend and it aint about to change.

Think of it as a race to the bottom. Whoever can get there first and can offer the consumer a low price point on the system and games will win.

[kami-kamui]

@darthv72

You're argument is obviously not well thought out. "lower point of entry".

PS2 price - 299.99
Xbox price - 299.99
Gamecube price - 199.99

Also the recommended sailing price of games 49.99.

PS2 sales - 155 million
Xbox sales- 24 million
Gamecube sales - 22 million

So what exactly was the lower point of entry for the PS2?

[LeCreuset]

@N4rc

"OK wow... Gonna jump in here with some logic and common sense for people.."

Actually, you jumped in with some simple arithmetic devoid of logic.

"Yes, the lead may exist (I don't follow it) in those 42 countries.. But how is it relevant? Easy! Do the math on countries they both compete.. That's the fair comparison, now add the other 60 and see the relevance."

The fair comparison? Is it, really? Because it's totally fair to compare, say, console sales in the U.S., where MS has concentrated their supply from day one, as opposed to Sony's wider distribution of the PS4 supply over more territories? Then we're supposed to "add the other 60" to see the relevance? Because all markets are equal and equally distributed to? 1 United States = 1 France = 1 China? Because that's the kind of logic adherents to the "42 countries" argument rely on.

[LeCreuset]

@kamui-kamui

It's just silly goalpost moving. "Race to the bottom." LOL. Makes me wonder why console manufacturers are in the habit of waiting until sales stagnate before dropping the price, if they're all just in a "race to the bottom."

[darthv72]

@kami...those are launch prices. do you really think the PS2 sold more when the price was above $200?

Each consumer has their own personal threshold when it comes to the price of something. some feel its $250 others think $300 but it has been more universally known that $200 is a much more attractive price point to the masses.

if you think sony has moved PS4 units now just picture the flood gates opening if they make it $299 or $249 or eventually $199.

@lecreuset. race to the bottom is a basic phrase that implies reaching that mass market appeal in regards to price. lower price = more consumer purchases = more overall sales.

[thewhiteelephant]

The only people who are finding a problem with Microsoft's position are Sony fanboys. Funny thing is that I saw one just yesterday try to say that the one was still behind the wiiu

[pixelsword]

If Microsoft's not willing to radically change their gameplan, the only way they'll win this cosole war is if North Korea declares war on Sony.

[GameNameFame]

@Foehammer

Lol. you win Most hilarious damage control of 2014 Award.

@n4rc

You do know the rest of the 60 countries are probably less than 10 percent of the market in total sales.

You do know that right? MS is choosing to ignore those markets cause they are tiny.

In large markets, MS is in already. Using so called same logic, PS4 is spread out twice as thin. They still beat X1 even though they are spread out so much.

Just accept it man. So sad to see you drown in desperation.

[Gamer1982]

Gotta laugh at the 42/100 thing as Sonys not even selling in 100 countries but whaeter lets just use that number for this example. Those extra countries Cony sells in over Xbox I promise you won't even account for more than 20% of total sales of Playstation 4. You know why?? Because they are small countries with little to no sales and thats why MS is not releasing in them as they see no point in it.

Then reading that you are probably thinking, if thats true then why did they release in Japan? Well the obvious answer is without a Japanese console Japanese developers would lose faith as they take pride in releasing their games in there home country. Removing Xbox from Japan would basically kill Japanese relationships. So although its selling crap in Japan it still makes sure MS keeps games like MGS and FF multiplatform.

Also trust me the Xbox is available to WAYYYYYY more people thanks to it being sold in china.. Xbox is available now to around 6/8 of the worlds population as opposed to Sonys 5/8. Chinas population is a THIRD of the planets!! They have more people in China than the entire US!!

[MysticStrummer]

"that's a good thing for MS to be in second place because then they will continue to try to appease the gamers."

Their response to last place last generation was all the unpopular policies to kick off this generation, so I wouldn't count on them trying to appease anyone.

[MysticStrummer]

"MS is choosing to ignore those markets"

This is the part that the 42 to 100 crowd won't get through their heads. MS is choosing not to release their console in those places because they know it would be a waste of effort.

[n4rc]

Its relevant because we are talking a few million sales difference.. Those countries may only be 10% of the market.
But what's 10% of the 300m consoles sold last gen?

A hell of a lot more then the difference we have now..

That's why its totally relevant.. If xboxs were sold there, the gap would close.. Its basic math that only a fanboy would try to spin away..

But don't try to put words in my mouth, I've never once said Xbox would be leading if it were in equal territories.. But their sales would increase and Sony's would not (as they are already counted)

And we are 1 year in.. And dealing with what? 5m gap.. We've barely begun..

What happens when the fanboys all have their console and the battle for the casual consumer becomes all that's left?

Ones sales could drop like a stone and the other triples..

[SilentNegotiator]

We all know that Xbox One would be as good as winning if it launched in places like Luxembourg. It's literally missing out on HUNDREDS/week of sales with those other ~58 countries, guys!

/s

[user5575708]

love all the stealth trolls here. hay guise wehn u hav no bubbles we know yur a troll

on topic: microsoft is to blame for their lackluster sales. their xbox one reveal and original policies caused a loss in market share. the reversal of policy saved them from serious problems however it caused a lot of people to switch to other consoles.

with the ps4 and xbox one being similar consoles the initial adopters pave the way for future sales. then word of mouth spreads to friends and that one ps4 sale becomes 2 then 3 then 8 among groups. the 360 had that last gen however the xbox one is not the popular discussion this time around

both consoles are great but the ps4 is simply "trending" better

[iNFAMOUZ1]

it just came back with master chief, yall are just in denial

[DivoJones]

Still not sure why this mentality exists. Both are making money and both are selling products. Neither company is going bankrupt or in danger of doing so. Everybody wins.. Sony, Microsoft, and us gamers.

[smellslikeralph]

Yeah but on n4g u cant say those things n4g is an xbox hate site

[Gamer1982]

N4G is an xbox hate site?? Last gen it was a PS hate site.. Seems N4G hates whichever console is in second right(or at least ps3 was most of the generation it is no longer)?? Or maybe, that's just the mentality of the people on here not the site..

[Unspoken]

Well if we were to look at the Xbox lead over the PS3 during the first year we can pretty much discredit this whole article.

[ricochetmg]

The amount is countries augment is moot because they are losing in the markets where they maintained a substantial lead.

[TheXgamerLive]

Wow, I sure wish I could see the future too and in no way speak from Sony goggles like this guy.
I mean its not like Sony had a oh I don't know a 10 month lead in many markets right?:)

[JMyers]

Oh it's not like the 360 had a years head start and the PS3 still outsold it after 9 years? MS doesn't have the market dominance elsewhere to make up the gap. Even if they take the lead in NA and UK.

[XanderZane]

It's pretty obvious this article was written by a biased Sony fanboy. I think Microsoft is concentrating more on owning the biggest gaming market in the industry, which is the U.S. and to also nab the U.K. market as well. Those are their two main markets at this point. They will market strong in those area to try and take the lead in U.S. and UK in the near future. As for worldwide sales, they probably won't catch the PS4 unless Sony has some serious financial issues within the next 2-3 years. Will they continue to lose billions in 2015 & 2016? No one knows what the future holds. There's no doubt that both consoles should easily sell over 40 million units in the next few years. Both consoles will get a slew of 1st and 3rd party games that will keep fans happy. The guy who wrote the article should probably refrain from using the inaccurate VGChartz numbers to make his point. The PS4 is about 6 million ahead of the XB1. The XBox One has definitely shipped over 10 million units by now. When they said they would "soon surpass 10 million shipped" that was over a month ago. They sold 1.2 million in the U.S. alone in Nov. Their sold to consumers should pass 10 million before Dec is over.

[zero_gamer]

The console will sell really good regardless in certain countries, mainly the US and UK markets. I don't really care if it wins this console war, all it matters is if MS returns a profit for their gaming division, and I don't see how that is impossible.

I have all three consoles and use them for what they're for.

PS4: jRPGs, Sony exclusives
Xbox One: MS exclusives
Wii U: Nintendo exclusives
PC: Everything else

[showtimefolks]

anyone with common business sense knows that it is next to impossible for xbox one to catch or surpass ps4. here are few reasons:

1. consumers feel ps4 is a better deal because its a better console.(whether its .1% more powerful its still better, MS had a chance to make theirs better but they instead chose to focus on everything negative(DRM,No used games etc,) and Kinect 2)

2. First impression just messed up xbox one at E3, they had everything go wrong. It reminded me of when ps3 launched and that famous E3 of $599. difference is sony knows a thing or 2 about excellent diversity in exclusives. To catch xbox360 sony had to deliver these games. UC trilogy, KZ2-3, Resistance, Demon soul, GT5, The last of us etc,. so if MS wants to catch up than do simple one thing, make better games than sony or nintendo. We have seen that triple card of gears,forza and halo. I believe Halo topped itself with Halo 3 and rest have been great sellers but not at Halo 3 level

3. world wide market is with sony, that is even a bigger reason why ps3 caught xbox360 and surpassed it. But fanboys just don't want to admit that. MS outsold ps4 but what 350-400K yet still got outsold world wide. now think about that. MS will not be beating ps4 but 400K's every month so

But that is not t say xbox one or wiiu can't be successful. I believe in competition and i believe sony vs ms will be great for gamres. Just look at blackfriday this year, how awesome were those deals. When companies compete for our attention and dollars we win

in the end this is how i see it

ps4 at 115-125 million could be more
xbox one at 85-95 million
wiiu hardest to guess 46-60 million

all 3 successful in their own way

[Halo2ODST2]

Fine with it, who gives a damn!

[TheXgamerLive]

It's a very stupid blanket statement to say but you have the right just try to speak with a common sense thought and not as a fan boy.
yes, the Xbox One stands a chance of surpassing Sony in fact, I feel that both systems will do great and theirs no loser here.
If one sells 100 million in 6 yrs. and the other sells 88 million that's great and everybody wins with great games.
To pretend to know the future though, well relax and enjoy instead of the flaming.

[kevnb]

does it need to?

[stonecold3]

pretty sure ps4 has this gen locked down already .

[CptEccentric]

Agreed. there is just no way, in terms of total sales, that the Xbox ONe can make a comeback. I wrote this to try and break people's delusion!

[Software_Lover]

You wrote this story to stir up fanboys.

The heat on this will most certainly go up higher than more important topics.

People love to argue back and forth it seems.

[MeliMel]

@Software,

Yes its stirring up fanboys but we can still have a civil discussion.

Its true Xbox One won't surpass PS4 this gen and so what. Im glad,because of it, Xbox has been putting amazing content an attempt to catch PS4. So PS4 keep doing what you doing I hope you sell 200mil fuck it. ...

[G20WLY]

^Software, "more important topics..."

Important? You know this is about videogames, right? How do you attach importance to an opinion piece anyway?

It's just sales. You read about it if you're interested, otherwise you don't. I for one agree that it's unlikely Xbox will catch up with PlayStation. So what?

[Gardenia]

PS2 - Xbox ---PS2 won
PS3 - Xbox360 ---PS3 won/winning
PS4 - Xbox One ---PS4 winning

[Condemnedman]

Not in my home.
Where it matters to me.

[SmokingMonkey]

Not in my *cave

*fixed

[raptorjacob]

Not in my home, that's like me saying I stopped watching the football game when my team was ahead. Too bad my team lost the game, but not to me because I pushed pause when my team was winning.

[JakeD]

Denial my friend

[GhostTurtle]

edit

[lifeisgamesok]

Who says it has to? It'll still be successful and have great games

Being number 2 in sales doesn't equal dead

[CptEccentric]

Oh no i am definately not saying its going to die or is dead. Or even that 2nd place is a bad thing.

I am just here to relate to everyone that the Xbox One will be in second place for the remainder of this generation, as some people think it might actually surpass the PS4 in total sales...

[christocolus]

I agree with that,i also don't see xbox one catching up with sony in worlwide sales, they may eventually take over US and maybe UK but worlwide numbers will always favor Sony but with that said i believe all the consoles just need to sell well enough to sustain healthy sales of 1st and third party titles and keep the industry going and as long as they all doing well in that department i don't see any reason why Sony , MS or even Nintendo should be worried. They all selling really well at the moment atleast a lot better than the previous generation.

[HeMan76]

No they cant surpass the PS4 world wide because The PS4 has Japan and Europe but I am saying this for million times:NA and UK are the prior territories for MS and all the entire industry.MS sold much less than the PS4 because of its being 100€ more expensive and European countries realy cheap people especially Germans.Not saying XO could surpass if it was 100€ cheaper because there is PS love inside of people and believeing that they will have outsatnding exclusive games but again if it was released with the same price with PS4 the differences wont be that high imo.The price realy ruined the MS in Europe.

But remember this:PS3 been released one year later and difference was as far as I know already 8m.Sony closed the gap with their very best exclusives and this time no need to deny MS seems more aggressive than Sony just check out the Halo 5 looking unbelievable.Definetely wont surpass on world wide but with great exclusives can be the top console of NA and UK and may be sell much more than ever in Europe...

[LOGICWINS]

Microsoft understands this too. This is a good thing. Now they can focus on improving the Xbox brand and not be so focused on sales. The future is bright for the Big 3.

[Xb1ps4]

Well thank you for making it clear to everyone!

Me... ill just wait until its a definate sin e its only been a year and ive seen crazier things happen..

[Angeljuice]

@HeMan

The UK is part of Europe, both politically and geographically, it only seems to separate itself from the continent to come to the aid of Microsoft's sales figures.

I wonder why that is?

As an Englishman I am a British citizen, a citizen of the United Kingdom and a citizen of Europe, anybody who denies that is a moron (and a hospitalized moron if they say it to my face).

[Magnes]

@HeMan76 you just Insulted about 50 countries by calling them cheap. Stay classy, never lose that.

[Sitdown]

The problem with your statement is that all you have is an education guess at best, but you are presenting it as fact. While all signs point to it being the case, it still can't be definitive....who knows what natural disaster can come along and throws things off track.

[Why o why]

Hey angle. ..'hospitalized' with a z, lol .....thats not very british.....but yeah, I agree.

@christocolus. ...again, I agree

@heman......typical tripe

[Angeljuice]

@Why o why

My predictive text/spell checker is set to British English rather than American English, but it still doesn't allow me to spell certain words correctly.

I usually manually correct comments but must have missed this one :(

[gangsta_red]

Xbox doesn't have to be number ne or surpass the PS4. Just stay relevant and provide the best games and also games that are appealing to me and it's user base.

As long as they do that, which they have, they will always be a contender.

And who knows Xbox may even catch up in sales if the software and product becomes more appealing than the PS4. It's just the first year, no one can predict the future.

[sovkhan]

@heman76

Maybe you are too young to know, but last gen the ps3 destroyed the x360 in Europe while being 200€ to 300€ more expensive!!! Now who looks cheap???

That's tells a lot what people think, and where they are eager to throw their money...

So think a bit before throwing your nosense, it's not only a matter of price at least here in EU.

[No_Limit]

"I wrote this to try and break people's delusion!"

Who on N4G ever said that the XB1 is going to sold more worldwide than the PS4? Even Hardcore xbox fanboys like HeMan or foehammer never said that. The catch up part is basically about the US because the articles they are responding to pertains to the latest NPD data which is USA only. The only insecure people that ever said that is hardcore PS fans and they always use the term "npd or USA =/= the world" on articles pertaining to XB1 doing well in the USA like the current 1.2k sales for november vs 800k for PS4. Of course anyone with a brain would know that MS has no shot at being #1 in the world because of Japan and most of Europe but that doesn't neccessary make the XB1 a failure just like yhe latest iPhones vs the Galaxy S phones, one has to lead over anothwr but both are hugely successful.

Your article just reconfirmed what is truely happening here and has been said a million times already so it is not really needed in the first place.

[SmokingMonkey]

@ Heman76

Oceans can't protect you anymore.

I love the "I don't care about other territories" argument, it is SO sad!

You do realize that other people play online right?

Those Asians are particularly good competition!

[marlinfan10]

Did anyone expect it to?

[MasterCornholio]

Some actually did.

:I

Which shows how limited the intelligence of some people can be. Or it just proves how mentally unstable they are.

Facts are facts. The Xbox can't come in first this generation. However that doesn't mean it isn't worth buying or that its a bad system though. Its just that the majority prefer the PS4 over the other two.

[jznrpg]

To a lot of people it isnt worth it because they mainly have shooters and racers and the other genres only get a game here and there. Thats why I wont buy one until its 200 used and years from now . I like Scalebound and Ori , but where are the exclusive rpgs adventure games etc. I liked Fable one and 2 a bit , but the 3rd was garbage. Make less shooters and have some variety , that is your problem xbox, not countries your in

[Spotie]

About half the Xbox fans around here seem to still believe it's possible.

And, to be fair, it IS possible. But it's so unlikely it's almost not worth mentioning. Which, again, doesn't make the console horrible or not worth owning. But what Microsoft did in November isn't sustainable for the rest of the year, and still wasn't enough to give the XB1 a worldwide lead for the month. Hell, I don't think it won even one WEEK during that time, globally.

Anything COULD happen in the future, but not anything WILL. Too many things would have to happen for the XB1 to take the lead.

[No_Limit]

Spotie you are delusional if you think 1/2 the xbox fans here think like that. I've been following n4g for a while now and I don't recall even the truely hardcore xb1 fans like foehammer or HeMan ever said that the Xb1 will overtake the PS4 in the World but they did say alot about the XB1 catching up to The PS4 in the USA and UK, which is not out of the realm of possibility. The only people I see here said anything close to that is all the PS hardcore like yourself going into articles about the XBox latest NPD victory and keep reminding us that NPD=/= the world and going off topic..like we didn't already know that.

So before you insult the intelligence of 1/2 the Xbox fans here on N4G, at least post a link or two to some of the comments made by the xbox fans to support your claim before making such a ridiculous statment.

[kayoss]

off the top of my head i can name at least 4 who expect it to.
HeMan76
FoeHammer
GreenPowerz
and Phil Spencer.

[marlinfan10]

Is this really worth a article then? Theres no one in here saying xbox will outsell it. One of your 4 people is the head of gaming at microsoft and another (heman) said above that it wont pass playstation.

[nowitzki2004]

George Noob

[DougLord]

All that matters is Xone beating the 360 so we continue to have gen on gen growth and support from 3rd party developers. I thin Xone will end up winning the English speaking countries, but it really doesn't matter.

What should matter to PS4 fans is when Sony's phone, TV and film businesses will stop bleeding money. It would be a shame for PS4 to win the battle and loose the war.

[MeliMel]

I think the PS brand can stand on its own, or a bigger company would buy it if it came to Sony shutdown.

[kenshiro100]

Which has nothing to do with the discussion.
Sony can handle their own affairs. They don't need so-called analysts droning on how they're losing so much money.

[DarkAstronaut]

After 1 year the PS4 has almost as big of a lead worldwide over the Xbox One as the Xbox 360 had total sales with no competition.

The PS4 had more sales worldwide than the Xbox One in November with massive incentive to get the Xbox One.

47+ games have been announced for the PS4 since September that have not been announced for the Xbox One.

The Xbox One did very well in the US in November, but they can't just keep giving away things to be competitive in 2 markets. That's not realistic in the long term.

Only time will tell.

[Outthink_The_Room]

You're looking at this incorrectly. The amount they lose on hardware means nothing compared to what the long-term is.

With Sony charging for online, the chances of people having both PS+ and XBL this generation is far less than last gen.

So getting someone in a PS4 or XB1 ecosystem has far more potential than $100 price cut.

Even if someone bought a year of Live or PS+ and just one game a year. Let's say CoD. That equates to roughly $400 over the span of 7 years that is potentially lost.

Would you sacrifice $100 one year to make $400 over 7 years? And again, that's just one game + online fee. That's not including other games or other subscriptions.

Everyone keeps talking at what their balance sheet looks like today instead of what their balance sheet WOULD look like, if they get more people in their ecosystem.

[XanderZane]

There was no incentive to buy an XBox One in Europe at all. All those sales and special bundles were U.S. and UK only. XB1 price was still higher in most Euro countries then PS4. No one knows if Microsoft will continue the $350 price in Jan or not. Only time will tell. Maybe they will drop the price in Europe and Japan sometime in 2015. Right now they are concentrating more on their home turf. Sony always announces a lot of games, but these games won't all get released in one year. They will be released over the next 3 years. Sony will announce games that have just started development. You won't hear about them again for almost 2 years. They've been doing this kind of marketing since the PS1. I know this because I used to go to the E3's and play some of these games or watch a none playable demo. Then the next year some of those games would be gone or the release date was pull back. Microsoft will usually show games 6-16 months from release.

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

As long as they sell enough to keep the competition honest, then I'm fine.

[headblackman]

only time will tell. anyone speaking against it this early is only speaking out of pure ignorance and or fear. it's very well possible for either console and company to do that one (or multiple) big thing or things to change it all and win the hearts and minds of the people. and from looking at both consoles, microsoft and the xbox brand is more geared in that direction more so than the competition. to be honest, nintendo is the only company that just may turn it around to compete with the xbox in a bigger way (starting this year). 2015 will be the deciding game changer for each console. sonys game changer could be the games (that it was sorely lacking in the exclusives department and indies don't count, because no one buys a 4 or 5 hundred dollar console to play indies), nintendo's game changer just might be the same as sonys (nintendo's games lineup looks to appeal to more gamers than just nintendo's die hard fanbase, but nintendo has to get better with their online and become a little more laxed on their policies when it comes to what they'll allow the gamers to do and or not do) and microsoft just has to keep it's lower price tag,keep listening to the fans,and continue to get better at how they explain their future business practices and products (no one should be allowed to speak for microsoft or the xbox division without knowing how to properly do this). but other than that, they are already on the right track. all of the negative things has already been addressed, so now they just have to focus on more innovative games and tools for the console.

[etowntwo]

I don't see the Xbox One outselling the PS4 largely due to Japan.

But.... I live in the USA... So, as long as XB1 does great here and all my friends have one... That's all I care about.

[No_Limit]

Yup...I strongly agreed with you. The XB1 doesn't even have to win the USA either but as long as they stay competitive and sell great, then the supoort from MS and third parties continue to exist and great updates like Windows 10 and dx12 integration will continue to make rhe system better...ultimate is what matters to xbox fans the most.

[ShowanW]

There is a whole world out there... And yes Sony owns most of it.

But I definitely give MS some credit as a 1/3 of the world (Asia) don't care and probably never will care about Xbox.

If MS can keep it close then kudos to them..

Sony has made one heck of a product... But so has MS

[Darkxen117]

This article is a waste of time look the math is wrong. Think about it when the Xbox 360 launch back in 2005 in his first year sells around 5 millions units and have full year of advantage.in 2006 a year later the ps3 came out and the Wii. And what happens the PS3 don't manage to outsell the Xbox 360 well at least in US AND UK but it close the gab. And the Wii out sells Xbox 360 by far. So don't tell me that the Xbox one is not capable to close the gab. The ps4 is outselling Xbox one by 6.5 million units worldwide is not that far Xbox still have the chance to get closer. And for the record the most important and bigger markets are US and UK.

[corroios]

Lol. 6.5 that was like in August? lol. The PS3 got goty over goty, exclusive after exclusive. The last 3 years of the 360 almost no exclusive...

No they arent. Whats decisive for the companies is the total number. Even in the US and UK they just «win» one month in 12. So there is no competition right now.

Do you think that last generation sony could get Street Fighter exclusive?? thats the main fear for Microsoft, if studios start to make more or better version for the PS4...

Numbers count, if one is near the 20 million mark and the other at the 10 million mark wich one would go for???

More can you left out a console with 18, 19 or 20 millions gamers and build just for Microsoft??? exclusive?

[xDHAV0K24x]

that's fine. not like it hasn't sold well in it's own right. Gimme more games!

[DarXyde]

We're only a year in, so I don't think it's impossible for the XBOX One to catch up in the next 4-6 or however long this generation turns out being. Time will tell.

But on another note, are we really still saying that PlayStation 4 is available in more countries therefore it's outselling XBOX One? The XBOX One hasn't outsold the PlayStation 4 in its best countries with the exception of one month. Not the United States, not the United Kingdom. It would need to consistently outsell the PlayStation 4 to close the gap and eventually outsell it.

It's like driving down the highway: If car A goes 100 mph and car group B goes 75 mph for 2 hours, Car A will have traveled 200 miles and Car B will have traveled 150 miles. The distance will continue to grow unless either Car A loses momentum or Car B goes at least 101 mph.

Basic math, people.

[hello12]

Sorry the math is overstated Sony showed the latest sold through figures at the Playstation experience right at the start. It was 14 million, i doubt its shipped? Its hard to know really because they only showed 14 million figure and gave know speech about it.

Considering it was only two weeks ago or less its a safe bet the margin is 4 million ahead. Microsoft is near 10 million sold to customers by now.

4 million is still a huge gap realistically its going to be very hard to close the gap on that because PS4 is way more dominant in Europe. America and the UK could be anyone's next year.

The fact is Sony leading is partly down to how bad Microsoft promoted the x box 1 at launch and that is just a fact. Sony is also a global brand x box is not.

Astronaut@ It was shown by Sony not Microsoft or any x box fan. Do you believe Sony? Go on Neogaf find the thread where members talked about it. They mostly agreed it was likely 14 million sold through. Believe what you like i don't make up numbers to justify my x box 1 purchase. The 14 million figure was shown by Sony at the Playstation experience address your concerns and opinions to them!

[DarkAstronaut]

You can't be serious. The sales gap has never closed the PS4 has sold more worldwide every single month and will continue to do so. To close the gap they would need to outsell them worldwide. Also the PS4 has sold much more than 14 million worldwide. Enjoy the Xbox One and don't be ridiculous.

[mediate-this]

How do you how much the ps4 sold? Sony them selves says they shipped 13.5 million ps4's in september. And sony fanboys are sayi g ps4 is around 16.5 million as of now.

Thats a million for october. And we know in north america it sold 700k not sure how globally but we didnt even get december numbers. So how could it be at 16.5?

[mediate-this]

This guy is a total fanboy. I think this is ps4's gen but anything can happen.

[Unarmed_Civilian]

yea, like our Sun going supernova

[bananaboats]

what bothers me about this gen(and last) is that people are too worried about sales and number as if they get some personal gain from it. This is just another article to stir up fanboys to argue about the crap that shouldnt matter to gamers

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Wishful thinking on the part of a click bait writing fanboy.

[H1t_Monster]

Wishful thinking.Wake up.lol

[quenomamen]

You get from round here wit yer fancy matmatics and such !

[Tzuno]

The games will dictate the fate of each console, if X1 will have good games it will be a worthy opponent if not then bad for them.

[pompous]

Who cares. As long as both companies are fighting for our money, who cares who is 1st or 2nd, we the consumer win when they are fighting for our money.

[Macdaddy71]

I really don't agree, it seem no one taking into account all the gamers that has 360s not jump to next gen yet,..
Let's look at the PS3 it didn't do the greatest n lot of gamers didn't like it to say, so when the ps4 released most of PS3 owners was ready for new system,..Now let's look at 360 most gamers loved 360 n still does they are millions still enjoying 360 n not ready to upgrade yet,..
If all the 360 gamers upgrade then the numbers between ps4 n X1 will be really close, I'm not saying X1 will sell millions more then ps4, just saying the sell number will be close... Most of your die hard gamers like myself will at some point have both consoles, we have two X1 n ps4 in our house....with the Wii U....
I think we as consumers should support all three it would make for a heathy video game market...
Please don't read this thinking I'm not for ps4!!!! We have one just like playing our X1 more...
We should stop worrying bout winners n support them all, to keep our gaming that we love so much going strong....
Thanks for reading n have a safe merry Christmas!!!!!!

[Spid3r6]

So my question to the Sony fans??? In the PS3 after 3 years of getting trounced did you ever think there was going to be comeback from Sony?? Microsoft has been outpacing its predecessor and the funny thing is that many people are still happy with the 360. Many of my friends are still on the 360 buying playing COD, Grand Theft Auto 5, Destiny and Forza Horizon 2. Slowly but surely they are finally jumping in but many are waiting for Halo 5 to take the dive. Trust me when I say the US and UK will fall once again to the green territory, it has already started.

[EvilWay]

As sad as this is to say I am happy Xbox will be in second place for the entirety of this generation. Minding a major setback for the PS4 it won't happen yu are right, and I am happy about that actually. Look at last gen, Microsoft was killing Sony for the most part in the beginning and stopped making new iPs for whatever reason, and the PS3 eventually passed it in sales.

Microsoft's back is against the wall to make new iPs and continue to improve the consoles to compete. Which is what they will need to continue to do if they want to compete in the future

Phil Spencer is ding a hell of job but he needs to keep it up this gen and for generations to come

The Xbox One might make a huge comeback like the PS3 did but idk, if Sony brings the great First party games we know they can bring then they will be fine, but if they keep this indie approach (which is fine for now) and doesn't bring as many games as they did in the past they might be in trouble of losing the lead

Sony has some things they need to improve as well but they will fix them eventually, once the First Party exclusives start coming in bunches they will be fine

[hiawa23]

I own both and prefer the Xbox over the PS4. Of course it won't surpass the PS4, but that doesn't mean the X1 won't have good to great games. So what, 2nd and 3rd place looks pretty good from where I am standing. MS corrected course and heading in the right direction. They just need to keep doing what they are doing. They don't have to surpass the PS4 to be considered successful in my book. Come on, did anyone expect the X1 to overtake the PS4? Where does these topics come from?

[lfc_4eva]

It does not matter one bit if xb1 stays behind ps4 in overall sales.

Xb1 is selling very well and developers are making plenty of games for it.

[Major_Bogart74]

we will see how yet another Sony security fail affect sales going forward.

[ShinraE5]

Of course it won't. Sony has a better reputation, slightly stronger hardware and as the games start rolling out, the momentum will be unstoppable. They will win this gen hands down.

However, as an X1 owner, that doesn't bug me. As long as MS can still do well (which they can with good pricing and games), we can all play fun games on the console of our choice.

Congrats to Sony and good luck to MS and Nintendo on working towards their own levels of success

[MKDA_Scorpion]

inb4 Tears of an Xbox fanboy

[Iamnemesis4880]

I see a lot of good things for people that have stuck through with the Xbox One and good deals for new buyers Ms is slashing prices bring better deals and with this fanboy war out of the way for one moment please it is great for people that are looking for a solid gaming console at a great price and they wont be disappointed.

[Gore-Content]

If Sony don't get lazy they can dominate the whole generation!

[mechlord]

lemme come late and deliver the last punchline to end this battle:

1st: get it in and over your heads: the xbox in all honestly will not surpass the ps4 ANYWHERE; They certainly cannot compete WORLDWIDE.

2nd: The dudes throwing the US/UK thing..just give up. SONY allowed MS to win the month because SONY can afford being pricier a month or two. They have a zone that they are comfortable with keeping MS in; If MS ever strays away from that zone, they will also drop prices and offer us money to buy the console. It also served as proof that MS needs to sweeten the deal WAY more than SONY to get the same results.

So, lets move on and discuss more interesting news.

[kingbain90]

Worldwide of course ps4 will win overall
1. PlayStation is simply more popular. Technically ps3 was more popular overall than 360 even though 360 outsold it. PS has beeen around 1 1/2 gen longer than xbox.

2. Xbox one will win US no doubt. It's close the gap to just over 700k in just a month& a half. It would probably be winning if it wasn't $500 originally. It also has a chance at UK and Aus I believe.

3 ps4 is available in more countries.

Even if xbox horrible e3 never happened, it was the same price as ps4 at launch, it had same exact hardware, ps4 would still be outselling it (however sells gap wouldn't be as big) simply because point 1 and 3

[JMyers]

Some people act like the sales of the each console directly affect their enjoyment of it. Do you like your console and the games on it? OK good... You win.

[LemyAtom]

As an avid Ps4 gamer I'm afraid I don't believe the xbox one can't catch up. People said the same about PS3 and it took years but it did it. You can't forecast what promotions, firmware updates and most importantly exclusive games will be released on the next 5 years. I do think the PS4 will keep the lead this generation but I don't see how you can predict it when we're only a year into this gen.

[theFAYEsorceress]

ms needed to be humbled early this generation just like sony was early last gen. both of them came out of the gate cocky as f*ck and paid for it. i still don't know why everyone wants a certain company to fail and have a one-console market. having no competition is a horrible thing.

[Morgue]

The thing about these articles is that no matter what you say people will disagree even if it's noted fact.

Will the X1 overtake the PS4? No, maybe not. Will it sell and release original content that people want? Yes. At the end of the day I'll trash talk all I want about MS because I've owned their product and honestly there really isn't anything I'm interested in playing on the X1 and that's why I got rid of it.
Although.... I have been " tempted " too buy another X1.

Can't even believe I just admitted that..

[Romer]

I'm an Xbone owner and I'd be lying if I said I didn't think Sony was gonna dominate this console generation. Microsoft fumbled the ball early on, ran a lot of people off.

[thewhiteelephant]

It's nothing to do with countries or any other reason it is simply the Xbox brand returning to its normal popularity without being over inflated by RROD numbers.

[arbitor365]

Considering that the xbox one has been unable to outsell the PS4 for a single week (globally) this entire year, no matter what they do, I think it is safe to say they are not going to close that gap
http://www.vgchartz.com/too...

also the PS4 has far, far more games coming in 2015.So how could the xbox one gain a lead in the market?
https://docs.google.com/spr...

[smellslikeralph]

Im so sick of these articles. All it does is bring out the ps fangoons and the hate ps fans have for the xbox.

I own both and i feel both are great and both are flawed

[ThePresentIsAgift]

How long is a piece of string?

Surely the perception of "surpass" will always be unique, as people have their own individual preference-not to mention each systems games and capabilities improving over time.

Obviously if one system sold so bad ala Dreamcast and lost support then that would be an issue, but that probably isn't likely. Plus Sega was running on borrowed time back then anyways, the Saturn, Mega CD and 32x lost them a fortune

From my perspective the PS4 and Xbox one have more in common then the PS3 and 360 did. I owned both of those machines and enjoyed each one for different reasons, it would have been very hard to chose one over the other.

This generation I would happily own either system and feel content.

[rapidturtle]

Thank God this guy wrote this article and cleared this up. Now I will be able to sleep tonight.

[souldestroyer14]

Ps3 had a pretty rough launch. Worse than xbox ones launch actually and the ps3 was a success

[iliimaster]

i wonder what kinda place they woulda been in if they didint have the nsa camera attached to the system, along with all those other failures (needing highspeed internet or buy a 360, drm the list is too long

[Max-Zorin]

Better that than Don Mattrick or someone similar.

[Dustin-Varnes]

I laugh at this funny crap about which one does 1080p and which one sells better.Im not here to cheerlead any of these companys as in microsoft and sony.And I know this is a sony fanboy site without a doubt.Let me just gett o the point here ive had both consoles from the begining and I will say as far as killer instinct being on the XBOX ONE was a major plus for Microsoft.I have tried games on Sonys new PS4 and I just didnt get the excitement in it that it had to offer so far.Ive been gaming for years on consoles.From what I know so far Microsoft isn't even just getting started.So as for an article like this to make such a bold statement as Xbox is done and cant catch up is a laughing matter to me.I can really careless give to flips.What I care about is the software they have to offer and with Killer Instinct on Xbox One I would have to say it had me at hello.With that being said what fighting enthusciastwouldn't want this game one of the baddest fighting games of all time besides Mortal Kombat.And the crazy part is it just keeps better and better my freinds.So my point is if Microsoft can keep this franchise alive there will be no problem selling of Xbox Ones.They are just gettingt here foot in the door.Alot of people think Playstion is better well ive had both and played both now I dont have a Ps4 just the Xbox One so go figure its a no brainer when you get time to actually see what both can provide and as far as games microsoft has got that hands down.Sony might wanna regroup and possibly come up with some new or old games to bring into this equation because at this time all I see is BloodBourne Sony might wanna think about remaking Bloody Roar because as far as fighters so far im convinced Microsoft has my back and that trully is WHAT MATTERS!

[Subaruwrx]

You seem to like fighting games. FYI, Xbox ain't getting Street Fighter V, Persona Arena games or Super Smash Bros. But maybe you don't care as all you seem to care about is Killer Instinct (and to a much lesser extent Mortal combat which as far as I know isn't an Ip exclusive to MS.) If MS has your back as far as fighters go, then how come you won't be able to play Street Fighter V and Super Smash Bros on their consoles?

[Dustin-Varnes]

Dude Street Fighter has seen some better days and doesnt even come close to Killer Instinct or Mortal Kombat.Street Fighter lost its fame back in the 90's era.Right now KI will put MK9 and any Street Fighter to shame.Although there was on I actually thought that had potential and its called Street Fighter X Tekken really liked the way the game played. So if your trying to impress me with Street Fighter 5 im not impressed at the least.I will be having fun listining to C'C'C'Combo breaker while your twilding your fingers playing basic fighting build have a nice day:)

[KirbysDump]

Another article that people post walls of text about and opinions that dont matter a damn. Dissengage yourselves from elements out of your control. Only then will you feel better

[Trekster_Gamer]

It does NOT matter whether or not the XB1 surpasses the ps4. The XB1 will have its own awesome collection of games as will the ps4.

I own an Xbox One currently, but I'm sure soon that I will own a ps4.
Aside from the diehard pathetic fanboys most of us gamers will own both consoles EARLY this generation...
Nuff said!

[BladerunnerZX]

Both the PS4 and Xbox One are great gaming consoles.

Seeing that the PS3 and Xbox360 have both sold right at 83 Million worldwide I think the PS4 will sell around 90 million total lifetime sales and the Xbox One around 50 to 60 Million...Maybe.

[aftershock]

The real question is who cares? Fanboys do I guess. Unless you have stock in one of the two or are a shareholder. Both consoles are great in their own ways. Stop measuring your e-peens about which console sold how much

[Jazzuri]

Sony wins the sprint but Sony's corporate troubles are on the way up.

So not even sure they are guaranteed of being around for the duration of this marathon.

Sony provides MS with much needed competition but it's not Sony that poses the biggest threat....

Sony are to Microsoft as seals are to wales, just something to play with and toss around before devouring !

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Sony's quadrupled net loss forecast marks the sixth time chief executive Kaz Hirai has had to explain to investors that Sony's results are worse than expected. It is also the first time in the corporation's history that it has not paid an annual dividend to investors (essentially a payout for those who own shares in the company).

http://www.microsoft.com/in...

Microsoft Corp. today announced revenue of $23.38 billion for the quarter ended June 30, 2014. Gross margin, operating income, and diluted earnings per share (“EPS”) for the quarter were $15.79 billion, $6.48 billion, and $0.55 per share, respectively.

[Sy_Wolf]

Right, and Sony was totally doomed with the PS3. It's not realistic at all to say Microsoft doesn't have the ability to push more units. Yes they're quite far behind, but it's just the first year.

[sauceash]

This site looks to be a gathering stable for the sony pony all they do up here is try to bring down the xbox suck it easy ponys and enjoy that deep throat from sony

[tiffac008]

The X1 only needs to win the US and UK to restore balance in the gaming world. xD

[Smokingunz]

As an xbox fan I must say that the xbox1 has dissapointed me! The games that have been released on both last gen and on next gen looks no different on the xbox1.that really pissed me off. Then you still cant play the system offline without an internet connection, smh not cool microsoft. The 360 was the best system ever I dont what made microsoft do a 180.

I still think microsoft can definitely come back just like how the ps3 came back when they had the high price tag and xbox360 was beating that azz lol.they should keep the price lower than the ps4, drop gears of war collection, invest in new studio and exclusive games and a slim system with spruced up innards that allows all games to be easily 1080p and 60 frames.

Ill be buying a ps4 when I get the chance lol

[horndog]

When you have stupid articles like this it only assures me that MS can. When you have pockets like MS and can put together amazing deals that one cant resist than people would jump inn just as you are seeing now. Sony can't afford to do that. PS division might be the only thing that makes money for that sinking ship.

[Shineon]

Why should you care which system is selling the most let's get back to having fun!!!

[MALVAD0]

the only way xdone can catch Ps4 is with another price cut -$50 -$100 more free games and more $$$$ gift card and + gold 5 years becouse it was the only way xdone won black friday even if u guys dont want to acept its a win with to much flavor of loss

[Tose]

Ahahaha, I'm just posting to say thank you to all you die hard sony fanbois! I love lurking the comment section because I never tire of reading teenagers circle jerk each other over how much better someone else's product is. @morganfell Yourself and people as dedicated to this cause as you (I've seen you posting since I was a teen, so I'm guessing you're like some 30 year old guy who still gives a shit about this crap?)- honestly need to sort out their priorities. Again thanks for the laughs guys!

[urwifeminder]

That's cool with me happy to be 2nd or 3rd at the very least I get to play game I like .

[SH4D0-NiNj4H]

No chance... the only way xbone beat the ps4 in November was to practically giv it away...lol i saw some insane deals £330 with 5 AAA games...! Wow M$ must have taken a big hit financial on some of these insane deals... i doubt they could afford to do that every month to beat Sony's console.

[Jerrymonics]

exactly (Y)

[sovkhan]

X360 manage to outsell the ps brand, locally, last gen for two main reasons : One year ahead start and snowball effect.

Negate these two and we find the normal trend...Ps4 dominating ww and fierce battle in two places NA and UK.

I can't see MS winning there like previous generation, and if it can't do it there with at least 20 Millions gap - won't happen anytime soon - then everyone assessing the situation with a decent eye knows the outcome.

[voodoogts]

But what if Sony gets hack and Kim Jung threatens Sony? Will Sony cave?