HipHopGamer's Gran Turismo Source Invalid

AutoGaming writes: "After a call to the SCEA (which took quite some time), an unnamed official has stated that the source mentioned in HHG's story is not official in any way, so whether GT comes to the PSP or not, we should take it from a more official and valid source."

[swiftshot93]

And just LOL @ spreading FALSE news to try and gather hits. So now its either false news or falmebait? Is this enough to ban his website?

[BrunoM]

We already knew that ....

damn why is it that 80% of "news" on n4g is blogs and fights from one site to other ...

even tho HHG site sucks with all the blog like storys coming from it .. these others sites(blogs) love it because they make an anti HHG story an get hits so they are all for HHG ...

if people dont have something to report on then just dont !!

[Trollimite]

im just saying though his source may be unnoficial he may be right.

usualy they say it s wrong there is no GT on psp, but it seems like they confirmed it. good job HHG

[BrunoM]

Who ever said theres no GT on psp ?

even the guy the maker of GT5 said we will see news on GT mobile soon .. so to say that is because there is a GT mobile right ?

but any ways im off to play some fifa online

[mrmikew2018]

I think it is, wow HHG is getting more famous by the seconds for these no name sites keep calling him out.

[Speed-Racer]

Does the coincidence of facts make it right to allow HHG to get away with their nonsense though? Consider that.

[morganfell]

Like any court case, the severity of the crime comes down to intent. In this case intent is compounded by the repetitive nature of his actions.

N4G staff have obviously hoped the situation would abate but it hasn't. For the good of this site they should consider banning this guy as his tarnished reputation is a reflection on any site that carries his reports as news.

[BrunoM]

No it does not Flair but dont you think in the end these is the type of thing that HHG.com wants ?

these is just another way to get hits .. but in the end it comes to N4G something has to be done about all these blog like "News" we see around here i was thinking these was about news for gamers but thats not what we see we see What some guy thinks is going to happen ..

EDIT- @morganfell i agree with you .. its about time something is done about it .!

[Speed-Racer]

Agreed guys. HHG in my opinion will burn in their own time. They may be doing well and have a ton of flamebait, fanboy supporters...but the developers will catch on soon, and eventually cut them out of the spotlight... hhg should at least get rid of those unprofessional writers, that's his problem.

[LoveGames]

wow 3 guys on these site had a talk with good points and a normal outcome with out stupid fanboy stuff and calling names my friends bubbles for the 3 of you!

[Megaton]

All they do is trash this site. HHG himself isn't even that bad, it's the others on his site. He posts his share of baseless nonsense and flamebait as well, but the level of retardation between Agent-X and MattG is hard to top, even around here.

I'm pretty amazed that they're still allowed to submit. Even for N4G staff with their completely oblivious attitude towards crap submissions and trolling, this has gone on for an insanely long time.

[morganfell]

Bruno nailed it in the fact that it is not news. Is there a place within the current structure for supposition? No. Rumor? Yes, rumor has it's place as well, provided it is properly marked.

Flair raised the question of coincidence. I do not believe that should qualify. The comedian Gallagher used to do a bit on chocolate. He stated you could spot it because regardless if it was a cake, a bar, or a brownie there was a definite way to determine if it was good chocolate. He would then turn to a white brick wall and begin slinging various types of chocolate from numerous sources against the wall. Good chocolate was chocolate that would stick to the wall.

I don't think hhg and his site should be tolerated because the once in a blue moon story is coated in Betty Crocker and manages to adhere itself to the brick just below the light switch.

I believe that with a normal exercise of common sense (I know, a difficult concept to define) one can recognize when someone is no longer posting a proper rumor. Rumors have some basis in fact. There is an intelligence indicator as they are known, a proper leak, or reputable individual to back it up. Usually like any good piece of intel it has been verified through an unrelated source.

But hhg isn't offering rumor. He offers supposition by design and the two are totally unrelated. One generates discussion and healthy debate. The other is constructed to cause controversy and generate web hits. His stories clearly fall into the latter category.

[Captain Tuttle]

Life's too short.

[morganfell]

Your assumption, itself based on a presumption you know or at least understand my mindset, is that I am not relaxed. Such conjecture is normally accomplished by the belief you can identify your own characteristics in the actions of others. You could not be more wrong.

[pixelsword]

For the source of autogaming.net to know whether HHG's anonymous source is legit, autogaming.net's source would have to know who HHG's anonymous source is. Now HHG's source could possibly be fake, who knows; but since he actually hobnobbed with developers, I will have to give the benefit of the doubt to HHG on this one.

...And I boubt a source that could be fired in a recession would actually volunteer themselves for the sake of either website, so I'm declaring autogaming.net's article as fake.

I mean, how could autogaming.net's source possibly know? And who's THEIR source; unnamed as well? You're not really earning any legit marks by doing that, autogaming.net.

[George Costanza]

Starting Monday, he will no longer be a SCE employee but Vandelay Industries newest Assistant Sanitational Engineer.

[Speed-Racer]

pixelsword - dont be such a cry baby...i know you're a die hard HHG supporter and would jump off a cliff for them.

[morganfell]

George is getting angry!

[phosphor112]

...this article itself didn't show enough proof to debunk the claim. It's like One makes a claim with no evidence, and the other makes a counter claim with no evidence as well. It doesn't work like that. The counter claim must have some supporting facts to it otherwise either article can be taken for a grain of salt.

Also, the fact that he said the "unnamed" source was tight lipped about confirming or denying the fact proves that there is a policy in place that disallows any discussion of a certain topic, which is usually in place to make sure up coming game plans aren't released prematurely.

I think HHG is correct with this one to be honest. Koller did say they were trying to bring it to as many platforms as possible.

[George Costanza]

pixelsword: The source was essentially named in the MSN conversation the writer posted. If you read the the HHG post you would realize the source was telling the author (Agent-X I think?) not to tell anyone.

[pixelsword]

if GT for the PSP comes out, your "site" will be totally discredited.

Not that it had any credit to begin with.

@ George Costanza:

Yes, the name was named in the MSN conversation... okay; but is the name named in the MSN conversation the name of the person giving the information out?

See what I mean?

I am almost willing to say, for example, you are not George Costanza by name; likely not even the actor who played him. If I told someone "George Costanza talked to me on N4G" will that be the truth? I mean, someone with the account name George Costanza *did* talk to me on N4G, yet if you gave me your personal phone number and If I were to call to verify if George Costanza talked to me, and I get someone who doesn't know you go by George Costanza on N4G... AND you don't want them to know, I would likely not get very far in my quest.

This is the same situation that is going on right now. If I divulged relatively sensitive information about the company I worked for, it would be quite foolish to use my real name. Especially in this particular industry where the reporters are not seasoned enough to practice proper journalism etiquette in dealing with information and sources.

Remember Deep Throat and the Watergate scandal? I'm also almost willing to say that "Deep Throat" wasn't the actual name of the informant as well.

[DailyAddict]

For those wondering about GT on PSP anyway, HHG isn't the first source to say this. Sony commented about this 2 years ago directly saying 'it's a possibility.' While I know HHG has no official sources of any kind and uses stupid videos of himself at GDC and E3 as 'credit' (when those guys will talk to anyone with a camera because it's free publicity) the likelihood of GT eventually coming to PSP is very likely.

THe only thing to take away here is that HHG does not have an exclusive story for this of any kind. He just takes stuff that people forgot about and then talks about it and makes up his 'sources' for credit.

[pixelsword]

So for someone to refute the source must have information to the contrary to immediately dismiss the rival source: so either way, one of these websites will be exposed as a liar... perhaps as soon as E3, or maybe at TGS; who knows.

But is it on record... so when the hammer drops, I hope the one who is vindicated will write an especially thorough article about the other.

[morganfell]

One of these web sites may not be exposed as a liar. However they may be exposed as telling the truth even though they were not. Just because what you said came true even though you made it up, because you guessed it, or someone told you it would happen even though that person had no access or actual inside knowledge does not excuse the person saying it would happen from being a liar or at the very least being intentionally misleading.

Even a the dumbest people are occasionally lucky and such a practice of accidentally being lucky should not be rewarded.

[pixelsword]

When Flamer or whatever his name is made the article to discredit someone, they automatically put their reputation on the line. The only two things they have to discredit HHG was the info, and the name: and the name can be easily made up. That was a stupid thing to do in the first place, knowing that most people never give their real name out on the internet; so that leaves the information.

And that's the thing: the article wants to say to "wait for a more reputable source" which also automatically suggests that they must have inside knowledge regarding the information, even if he puts out a disclaimer. WHO said it is immaterial in respect on whether the information is true or not. Although GT on the PSP was rumored a while ago, that doesn't mean by any stretch of the imagination that it will come true, like a Warhawk game with a storyline, or Gears 3 on the PS3, or Left4Dead on the PS3. All these things were said, but none of them came true, so out of these four "rumors" if the GT for the PSP comes out, that will justify HHG more so than to call him lucky.

[Diselage]

Please HHG say it isn't soon, your credibility might go out the window!

[sonarus]

This is super dumb. So some sony guy leaks info and you expect sony to confirm it???? Common sense isn't common after all

[Speed-Racer]

Ehhhhh this is all well and good when it's another site..but HHG half the time makes up stuff.... so they need to be pointed out.

[sonarus]

I agree HHG makes crap up all the time but if GT psp gets announced at E3 to release this yr then you guys are all idiots.

When dealing with stories you have to set your bias aside. Some guy claims to have insider information saying GT is coming to PSP and some guy disproves it by contacting his some unnamed sony rep who says its unofficial and then that makes it false.

I have no stake in this story but stupidity irritates me. This story is just as irritating to me as the made up HHG stories like FFXIII proves 360 has more power story

[morganfell]

Freedom of speech does not grant the right to yell Fire! in a crowded theater. This right is not protected unless there actually is a fire. Even if you know there is faulty wiring you cannot do it. If you do so you can be charged for inciting a panic, being a public nuisance, and one or two other misdemeanors.

If a week passes and the theater catches fire you will not be vindicated. We are not discussing freedom of speech per se, but the comparison is certainly warranted as this situation is no different. Even if E3 comes to pass and the title is announced it changes nothing. His source was unverified and coincidence is not news. Neither should luck be rewarded and clothed in the robes of respectable journalism.

The intent, as in the case of all hhg articles, is not to inform but rather to incite and for that action, which occurs as an almost daily disruption, they should be banned.

[thebudgetgamer]

fake blogs and blogs about fake blogs.
that is what n4g has become

:(*

[Marceles]

I'm surprised he bothered calling.

[colossi16]

Oh my ****!

[NegativeCreep427]

The Hell You Say!!!!!!!!

[pwnsause]

lmao hiphopgamer

[MaximusPaynicus]

...that this crap just helps to legitimize him, right? If you want him to go away, don't pay attention to him. When he posts something on N4G, report it or simply ignore the damn thing.

[mrmikew2018]

why so much hate towards the hiphopgamer?

[dylantalon]

a lot of negative people here are so quick to discredit Hiphopgamer but i believe hiphopgamer was telling the truth. why would the HHG want to make up a story like that when sce could cause problems for him?

another thing also is that people here loves to hate on HHG when he's better than a lot of other sites with his opinions on his sites and news show every week. this dude is working hard with the bit of connections he has and its all for us gamers and people in the hip hop community . if you people hate him so much, stop talking about him or acknowledge posts from his site.

ps. the talon stands for talented

[Speed-Racer]

The problem is not hiphopgamer himself... (he didnt write the article). The problem is the 5th grade writers he hired...most of whom can't spell, phrase sentences and purposely write flamebait stories. that's where his problem is.

[MaximusPaynicus]

"why would the HHG want to make up a story like that when sce could cause problems for him?"

...you've READ his blog, right? All he does is appeal to the lowest common foamy-mouthed fanboy with intentionally inflammatory and often misleading headlines.

What's even more depressing is that N4G eats it up every time, knowing they'll just end up spitting it out and complaining about how foul it is.

[News4fanboys]

this is a WTF article man lol..

how can you say and "unnamed official" said that the source a HHG is not "official" ??????? lol so dumb.

[mrmikew2018]

so I get a disagree, for asking a question? It's N4G afterall....anyway, I suppose to believe this kid got in contact with a rep from Sony, telling him or her that GT is not coming to PSP? Some people are just sad. Sign......I

[mrmikew2018]

@MaximusPaynicus, it sounds like you really hate HHG.....geez

[MaximusPaynicus]

I don't hate the guy, I just have a fundamental distaste for websites that willingly swat the nest just to piss off the hornets -- but even that could be partially forgiven if the quality of the writing was up to snuff.

[Aclay]

Gran Turismo for PSP probably won't be anywhere near release until 2011 at the earliest, and I never believed that HHGS article for one second.

Polyphony Digital probably won't be finished with GT5 for PS3 until late 2009/early 2010, so how could GT for PSP come out this year? It was pretty much common sense to me.

This is just my opinion, but since it's taken so long for it to come out, I think Sony should just save a portable Gran Turismo title for the PSP2 and it could be one of the launch titles for it.

[-x.Red.x-]

who took HHG seriously?

[Speed-Racer]

bubbles for you my friend

[Why dis]

You did until Sony was in the hotseat in his articles.

[DavidMacDougall]

How many email addresses have you went through just to keep accounts on this site LOL (You should be banned for that)

You always run outta bubbles cause you hate on everyone for siding with sony or even if they just like a game thats a ps3 exclusive, you take it to heart and we can feel your pain through your messages. I can just see you now sitting on your computer with your back to the wall, staring out at the world with a sad look on your face cause you think everyone is out to get you but the harsh reality is no one really cares that much.

[-x.Red.x-]

if you looked at my past comments i NEVER accepted HHG
and each time i see HHG articles i just don't even click on his site anymore

[caffman]

he's still about 20+ behind nasim!

[Thoreau]

HHG=chicken little, "the sky is falling"

[REALZILLA]

Don't hate. This internet arson is killin me.

[dcbronco]

But this is Sony we're talking about. When was the last time we could tell what was true coming from that company. They have been backtracking on everything said since the PS3 and Blu-ray were released. Just a while back they had over a million Killzone pre-orders in Europe alone, this week they say they just hit the million mark. Plus every division and country seems to have different information. Also, there was an article last week about bring GT to more outlets.

[divideby0]

these dudes like HHG just dont get it...all you have on the net is your credibility...when you loose than you are nothing more than a clown who noone will believe..and honestly, I thought HHG was a little bit entertaining

[WeaponX]

I too made a call to the SCEA (which also took quite some time), and another unnamed official has stated that the unnamed official source mentioned by FLAIR in this story is not official in any way!?

Weird......

[Speed-Racer]

Lol you turd...I dont use this name when I make official calls. Gotta present yourself professionally...something you or some of the crew at HHG dont seem to know about.

[WeaponX]

I never said that u used that name. What i said was "the unnamed official source mentioned by FLAIR in this story is not official in any way!?"

Just making the point that anyone can have an <unnamed official source>.

Oh and also while i was on the phone with this unnamed official source he/she told me that fw 3.0 will eventually be released.

[Zeus Lee]

Now Sony are saying Hiphopgamer is a troll.

Anyways,GTPSP is going to happen,so don't worry kids.

[REALZILLA]

Maybe people are tired of the tradition stuffy style of some of the larger sites.He has taped into something and your are making him famous. The people have spoken, and you should listen. Some people like the raw unrefined content and I am one. One last thing for you think about, the more you blow, the larger his fire becomes. Work on your own thing and stop hating.

[andron]

And who would be HHG source in the future when they know he will plaster their name all over the site to try and appear legit...

[REALZILLA]

Which one of your submits is fact. You have put alot of: 5 best, The games you missed, what the hell guy come on. Have you ever put anything out there that states anything other than opinion. Check your submits.

[ElementX]

HHG should be banned from this site. F#*king ghetto trash

[Kyur4ThePain]

I think, for the first time, you and I might agree on something.

[ElementX]

lol

[NJShadow]

Yeah, and of course the people who approved that story won't get restricted from approving news... like I did the other day when the news was FACTUAL with VIDEO EVIDENCE. Ugh.

[bardler]

HipHopHack already pulled the article from his site, lol.

[syphenlimit]

And, how would sir like that egg, today? Served across the face? Coming right up, lol! This guy's worse than new Gamespy, at posting rubbish.

[The_Kills]

i guess there is some hope for this game (need i remind you that should have been a launch title) to be released ever.

[caffman]

when you cant trust what you read on the internet.Someone will say that wikipedia isn't reliable next

[DelbertGrady]

Hiphopgamer is invalid.

[fossilfern]

lol suprise suprise

[PotNoodle]

It was that Agent-X guy from this site who written the article.

[KingKionic]

even if this wasn't true, alot other stuff that hhg has shown and talked about is.

[lh_swe]

I thought it was pretty much universally aknowledged that he was a bonified jackass.

[TheColbertinator]

Hahahahaha Agent X peddling bullsh!t again.

[II Necroplasm II]

"heard the PSP2 is going to be like gamecube graphics is that true"

Classic.

[TheColbertinator]

lol that kid needs to do his English homework

[KwietStorm_BLM]

"HHG source is invalid." lol no sh*t. That should be the standard return statement whenever you use HHG as a source for submitting an article.

[koouunn]

HIP HOP Gamer is a peice of trash that likes to suck gibblets from a monkeys bung hole and drinks diarrhea piss from a cow.

[geth1gh]

lol, seriously if you still trust anything he says your an idiot.