so is this the start of a trend? i looked at what the 360 has for the end of the year and they could be sitting around the 10k market in November/December each week.
Edit: @2 what about Lost Odyssey?
every X360 being bundled with FORZA 2 and VIVA PINATA.
the x360 had a price cut of 5000 yen and AC6.
However expect ps3 to outsell x360 by atleast 10:1 next week /week after since 40 g drops on 11/12 nov . DW5 and R&C would be launched on the same day of 11/12 NOV.
HS follows a week later . Heavenly Sword already has a pre-order of 35000 copies in Japan
Disappointing sales for wii and SMG though.
IS wii a FAD?
I believe so . As for x360 the boost is temporary and probably wont last next week where it comes back to 3000 mark
Wii is a fad yet sales have gone up 4 weeks in a row? how does that make sense? lol
Well no... it won't last but I doubt it will drop back below 3k in just a week. We'll see though. Regardless, I think it is impressive that they were able to boost sells that much. And it will boost again when Lost Odyssey comes out. Unfortunately, I don't think there will be much momentum for the system after Lost Odyssey.
As for the PS3... I'm not sure it will see much of a boost in Japan until Dec. All in all, the PS3 will do well this holiday but probably won't see a consistent surge in sales (meaning anything near Wii numbers) until the release of MGS4 & LBP.
dam dude...do you ever do something productive other then worry about ps3 and their numbers...
I thought the same thing.
When nasim posts, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
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i doubt it. Only exclusive game they have left is mass effect and the effect of that will be short lived in japan. Ace combat really played out well for msoft i dnt remember them selling this much even with eternal sonata
Wasnt lost odyssey pushed back to next yr?
when does the ps3 price drop become effective.
this is exactly what I mean, if the ps3 can just keep sales close to the 360 in amerca,it will do just fine.
cause it outsells the 360 in almost all other countries.
basically the 360 won last montlhy hardware sales because halo3, and halo3 did most of the damage in Amercia where the difference in sales were more than 70k I think.
White 40 GB PS3 comes out this Sunday.
Logically speaking its foolish to claim this will be the start of a trend. Naturally, the additional price cuts coupled with the bundling of the console with one of the most popular titles in Asia will no doubt cause a significant boost in sales.
Historically the console used to sell 1-3K a week, so this is almost a x6 time fold in those sales. I'm sure it'll sell well but I expect this figure to decrease over time, and certainly lag behind Sony with their pending price cut on their machine.
Still a fantastic week for Microsoft.
from what ive read sony's price cut is already in affect. only thing is they 40 GB launches next week and R&C comes out.
and i asked a question didnt make a statement.
The new price hasn't been implemented yet as far as I'm aware, and if so, we should look at the sales figures of that because the price cut was definitely not in effect during the week in question in regards to this article.
both consoles recently had a price drop, and when did either Forza or Viva Pinata become 1 of the most popular titles in Asia?
ps3 price drop Oct 17th
360 price drop Oct 22nd
I know many sonykids wish these #'s weren't true, but the reality is what it is, yes micro sales are almost certain to decline but you can't downplay the fact that this is BIG NEWS, especially after so many sonykids have laughed at how miserable micro's sales are in Japan, when its all but written in stone that japanese DO FAVOR homegrown consoles based on their pride in their countrys legacy when it comes to the videogame industry and their much different tastes. yeah, 360 fans are smart enough to know that this doesn't mean all over sudden 360 is going to take over japan, but its a big step in the right direction and now the naysayers are eating sh!t now, this IS japan after all, the ps3 was EXPECTED/PREDICTED by most (sony, sonyfans, and many many industry analysts) to take the lead in the US by now, but no one ever even considered micro could come close much less win a week in Japan, and nobody can deny that at the very least sony has to be a little embarrassed.
Excuse me for finding it just a lil bit funny and laughing at sonykids who have called for micro to "give up" in Japan, like I've always said they don't need to win in Japan (obviously they wont) but its still worth a good laugh when something like this "slaps" sonykids in the face=
It is amazing how some people seem to always post just half of the facts.
The 20GB PS3 in Japan had a price cut on October the 17th, but the new 40GB white PS3 will release on 17th November at a price LOWER than the 20GB PS3. It is more than likely that there are no stocks of 20GB around and even if there are then many clever buyers will be waiting for the November price drop.
The exact same thing happened in the UK and also in the US. The 360 sales in Japan are simply because of the new bundle deal and because of Ace Combat. This is great news for MS, but if they can't follow that up with other games, then the momentum will be lost and they will drop down in sales again.
everyone sold a lot of ? marks last month...
This is the sale of where exactly?
This can't be Japan, because the Xbox number is too high. Is this american sales number?? But if you go to the source it's all written in Japanese.
Media Create from Wiki - "is a Japanese company that gathers and analyzes data from the digital entertainment industry, specifically focusing on the Japanese console gaming market."
Damn look at PSP sales... psp has been selling good world-wide for a while now.
So besides being outsold big time in North America, slightly in Europe, and now a bit in Japan??!! Come one! I didnt think 360 would ever sell half of what PS3 sells, and now they're selling more? Sony needs to rethink their strategy and start focusing on games and making sure they dont get delayed. I wonder if Sony ever thought that the 360 is selling well because of their line up of games. It seems to me like they think its all because of the price, so they follow suite, but still don't succeed.
how is Sony in trouble in Japan the 360 matched PS3 figures with price drop ..bundles..and an exclusive game...imagine what the PS3 sales will look like compared to 360 ...lets say in Decemeber..ne ways..good for M$..they're having a good week...props to them...for beign so persistent..
Ace Combat 6, A price cut on the console, plus price cuts to 2 'popular' 360 titles in Japan. of course it will sell well.
However next week sony hit back with the 40GB ps3, rumble controllers and R&C so expect things back together
Wait until the 40 GB drops and this becomes a trend before casting doom and gloom. If anything, you should be wondering why SMG didn't greatly increase the Wii's numbers.
Granted Ace Combat is just one title, but it was #2 in total sales for Japan last week, Xbox hasn't seen 17K in Japan since around launch I think, and this being Sony's stronghold in question after the price cut cannot look good from an overall view.
IS that the 360 OUTSOLD the Ps3 in its own castle.
No one was expecting this.
360fans are going to gloat and ps3boys are adopting the familiar 'wait-and-pray' stance. What did you expect?
the xbox360 had a price drop I beleive and a couple of other things I think that gave it such a boost.
remember the ps3 still has titles like mgs4 that are gonna boost ps3 sales in japan ALOT.
did sony announce a price drop for japan?
sh!t 60% price cut
its like buy 2 games
and get a free 360
obviously if a price drop is coming in a few days, people hold out on buying ps3s and wait for the price drop.
So actually, a price drop does'nt help that much before it becomes effective does it?
once the 40gig white PS3 hits japan. People in Japan are a sort of disappointed with wii after purchase. This is why SMG moved just an extra 10k wii (37k)
I wont be surprised if ps3 hardware sales reach 100k on the launch week of 40g white ps3, R&C and DW5
We have to monitor weekly and monthly sales of this before we can hint that Sony is in trouble. I don't think they are and I doubt even TheMart or anyone of the Green side would come here and proclaim anything.
It's far too early.
Congrats, Sony, the one place you were almost guaranteed to sell more than 360 week by week and it's gone.
If the 360 was still outselling the PS3 in 3weeks time, then sony should worry.
I'm fairly confident it won't, but I think this just proves all Sony needs now is games.. games, games, games.
it's all about the media
say Ps3 was 18-22k and xboxwas 16k in Media Create?
Is the wii, its had really its biggest game launched and only had a slight increase in sales considering the size of the game (SMG), and also sold alot less copies than i thought it would, i suspected that it would reach the 500K mark in its first week, it barely managed half of that.
Where does that leave wii now? Is the 'fad' (if people still call it that) over? Or is it people just waiting for the hoilday season to kick in
and if a price cut and bundles and an exclusive game. (not to mention the 360 is about the price of the wii over there)
and they only sold THAT LITTLE OVER THE PS3 AND THE PS3 HASNT EVEN HAD ITS PRICE CUT YET. THE 40 is number 9 in japan IN PRESALES. so lets see what happens then folks. and yes i do expect the ps3 to start outselling the wii. i cant believe there barely even ahead releasing there BIGGEST TITLE BESIDES SMB
I have been following these threads for a few months, and have never posted.
I have been amused by all you kids and young adults, making such grandiose predictions, based on a few years of experience. I know all of you are not under 16 (even though your posts scream otherwise), but even those in your 20’s know and have experienced very little in this industry.
I have been a gamer since the days of Pinball machines (a nickel a play), which became Arcade Games (a quarter a play), which became home console Video Games ($30 a cart). Now I realize that most of you know next to nothing about this industry before the late 80's - early 90's. For that reason I forgive you for thinking that Sony and/or Nintendo invented this industry. WRONG!!! The video game industry was invented by ATARI, an American company! Back in the 70's the first videogame war was between Atari and Mattel (Intellivision). Later the ColecoVision, the Vectrex, and the Magnavox Odessey were released. Look up the real history to learn what caused the videogame crash, because its a little too lengthy to recount here. Anyway, my point is by the time Nintendo and SEGA started the 2nd age of the industry, and the second videogame war, all we Americans had to choose from were Japanese game systems, with Japanese games, created by Japanese developers, with Japanese tastes in mind. Gamers were led to believe that these were what games were supposed to be. . Yeah, we had the 3D0 experiment (American) but they could not compete..., too expensive and ahead of its time. (But if you were around then, you may have noticed the 3D0 games were DIFFERENT, then the typical Japanese games. We had a taste of the “new” western-style games to come 20 years later. 3D0 and Trip Hawkins eventually became Electronic Arts, and the American Sports games genre appeared)
After the Nintendo (NES-SuperNintendo) / SEGA (Master system-Genesis) wars came the Playstation. Everyone questioned if SONY could compete with the industry giants (Nintendo/SEGA), they succeded and the rest is history. However, the majority of the games being played were still the Japanese-style! Now fast-forward to the present day. Microsoft, an American company, creates the XBox, tailors it to western tastes, and jumps into the fray. They took a bath, and lost tons of money (which they expected), just to make a name. Then came the 360. Everyone in the media expected the PS3 to, on day 1, wipe the 360 from the scene. How can they miss??? They sold how many hundred millions of PS1s, and PS2s??? It’s a sure thing, they said. A slam-dunk!!!
But something strange happened….!
Things are different now. For the past 20 years, American have only had Japanese games to choose from (Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Mario, etc...), sequel after sequel... you hear every day from PS3 fans: "just wait until MGS come out", "wait until FF comes out", “Ratchet and Clank will rule the world”, etc... Those days are over. We now have other game genres to choose from, the Japanese gametype, so popular in Japan, is not the hot thing over here anymore. The real reason that the Marios, Metal Gears, the Final Fantasys, etc… sold millions of copies, the reason the spikey-hair, huge sword carrying, fireball throwing, dragon riding, turtle-hopping games were so popular, the reason “everyone just assumed the PS3 would wipe everything else off the planet is simple. Those were the only gametypes available!! That's why the PS3 is not selling like hotcakes! Sure, it will sell, but the competition is not just new hardware. We now have a real choice in SOFTWARE, and we are not all blindly choosing Japanese. Millions of us are choosing American. Call it what you want, but those coveted, precious sequels you young PS3 fans are panting for are not going to be the system sellers that you are so convinced they will be. You will a kid when you were first exposed to videogames, you grew up playing them, and that’s all you knew. The reason the 360 does not sell well in Japan? It’s not Japanese!!!! The reason the 360 sells so well in the US? It’s American!!! Think about it. And look at how all the predicted Japanese smash hits have fizzeled, selling mediocre numbers. Look at how the Japanese developers are lusting after the American market. Selling in Japan is not the “Holy Grail” anymore!! There's a new sheriff in town. The industry has changed. Get with the program.
so...Atari, an American co. created the first games..and what is your point dude? Just because someone invents something doesn't mean an "outsider" can't improvise on top of the invention.. Case in point...NBA basketball...hmm..invented by a white guy...and dominated and improved upon by black guys..think this through, Aristotle..LOL Let me guess, you are the proud owner of an X-Box? you need to call the sheriff on Microsoft and tell them Bill Gates has robbed you. Have a nice day. This guy above me is one of main reasons people think of American's as fat lazy azz smartmouths. Think you know everything..where are your credentials, sir?
I quote from Marge Simpson.
Its a no brainer the 360 sells more in the US. For a successful console in the US all it needs is shooters and sports games.
The 360 is a jock console and PS3 is a nerd console full of fantasy and odd japaneses stuff.
An example in Bioshock with the ethical dilemma with the little girls but I know people just shoot everything than moves and would try and go after the girl before the big daddy.
There are no RPGs on 360 and the ones they have now flopped and the 360 is selling better now as some japanese like shooters but more like RPGs.
Just don't even bother fanboys, the fact is most people expected no more than 5000 units to be sold of the XBOX360 (at most) and instead it outsold the freakin' Playstation 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MICROSOFT HAS PROVEN what makes a SUCCESS in JAPAN.
Its not about where the freaking thing is made, so stop with your jargon(some of its racist btw)its only about one thing:
Games & Software plus pumped up marketing sell systems in Japan. Period. Get the right games like Lost Odyssey 2, watch the sales fly off the charts every time.
End of discussion.
Microsoft set out to prove with the XBOX360, that they could win Japan and do better than the original Xbox did in its whole lifespan.
They easily already proved it and passed that milestone. Anything going up from there is merely icing on the cake!
And HEAD TO HEAD competition is good for Sony, so they start doing real quality games in JAPAN and working harder....
Because who knows, as 360 does better and better (it can only GET better anyway) then all those so called "Japan exclusives" on PS3 will also be on 360 to increase the sales three-fold.
Devil May Cry 4 and Soul Calibur 4 were just the beginning, I expect the 360 to receive more of those third party franchises including Suikoden once all the software sales come in.
Playstation 3 will have to rely on its FIRST-SECOND PARTY GAMES to sell them out, like the 360 is relying on its LOST ODYSSEY titles. And that's good news for everyone, because they will be forced to make MUCH BETTER games for SONY and Microsoft be forced to do the same.
HATS OFF TO THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =D
Suikoden never sold well on the PS1 and PS2 but it is one of my favourite games.
It may sell extra on the 360 but Playstation is its home and will still sell the most.
ps3 had a price drop in Japan on Oct. 17th so why are sonykids acting as if sony hasn't also cut their price in Japan, only the 40gig ps3 has not been released in Japan (release date is Nov. 11th)
http://www.i4u.com/article1... http://news.zdnet.com/2100-... http://www.ps3fanboy.com/20...
so these ps3 sales are also right after ps3 price drop, WOW! more salt in the wound for sonykids, pa pa please dont hurt yourselves, ha ha this is so funny watching the haters pull their humungous left foot out of their mouth=
vvvvvvv aawwww, looks like I hit a nerve, lmfao!
Miracles do happen..just like your ole lady forgot to wipe with the towel when i was finished with her and she didn't get pregnant...whew..guess it's down the hatch from now on...BTW...wipe that shyt off of your face..JOY!!! that's what i told your girl...JOY- JUST OPEN YERMOUTH!!!
@19.1 lol damn dude is it that serious? i mean he isnt lying no one expected this.
The PSP is selling a lot of hardware each week but not selling many games. Not a single PSP game made it into the top ten this week, but 59,000+ units sold o_O ? Strange...
It does more than just play games
Must like it for the Wi-Fi cheaper than the iPhone or iPod touch, I guess.
Japan is a weird market, and I really don't think it matters like it used to.
When a good week for Japan is the PS3 and 360 selling around 17,000 consoles it puts it into light.
In the American market a console is considered doomed and laughed at currently if it sells less than 100k units.
California (if not Cali definitely the West Coast) itself probably sells about the nearly the same amount of PS3/360 consoles as Japan.
Focusing on Japan is a lost cause...titles no one cares about in the 8 times bigger market sell at the top of the charts...it's too quirky and unpredictable.
And the United States and the UK/Europe are much more in line with their preferences than the UK/Europe is with Japan.
It's dangerous to focus on Japan because unless its a cult classic that was previously ported over and caught on over here (Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo, Mario, MGS, etc.), you'll be working harder for a much smaller share of the market.
Sure the 360 is doing poorly in Japan, but when markets which combine to be more than 10 times greater than Japan disagree, why try to please Japan?
Nintendo is doing well in both markets because they're gadgety enough with the motion sensor and have enough really quirky Japanese style games to please the Japanese, and they're casual and cheap enough to do well in the other markets, appealing to non-gamers.
As a real gaming machine, trying to please the Japanese market would do more damage to the 360 than it would reap rewards.
Not even Sony, a Japanese company, has focused on the Japanese market as much as they have the others.
I think Japan is about pride, because much of gaming from Nintendo's early days and Sony's middle days originated there. Microsoft has an interest in Japan because they want to win over some of Japan's developers (Think MGS.) If Japan weren't the trendy technological center of the Eastern world it wouldn't be important to anybody. It's trends certainly aren't influencing the US market at the moment, except for the fact that the cheaper, more casual (i.e. geared to non-gamers) Wii is leading sales.
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