The Truth behind Xbox 360 3 Red Lights

Ever since Microsoft released the XBox 360 back in 2005, Xbox 360 has a big issue known as 3 Red Lights, also know as the Red Rings of Death. It is not fixed till today and it occurs when the Xbox 360 experiences a general hardware failure, also known as core digital failure. What is the truth behind Xbox 360 3 red lights? What causes 3 red lights on Xbox? This article will investigate on this topic and therefore prevent it from happening.

[Duke Spookem]

They never fix the RRoD. They just keep renaming the chip but the real name of it is Placebo.

[GWAVE]

The article is not an article. It's an advertisement for a "fix it yourself" video guide.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

This doesn't really constitute news! This article should be removed.

[TheXgamerLive]

so this is a sad wannabe fanboy's idea of a joke.

[TengkuAmir10]

@GWAVE.

Agreed. This is no article, this is an advertisement aimed for 360 users who got cheated by Microsoft. For all you unlucky people out there, there is no need to fix your broken 360. Instead, the future is waiting for you. The price? 299$. You know you want one.

MAKE.BELIEVE

[DARK WITNESS]

GWAVE is right...

common guys you should no better by now..

this is nothing more then an internet marketer selling a Clickbank product.

Throw up a wordpress blog or something in 5 min, use a bot to pull a few articles and sell some ebooks etc.

it's not news, it's not an article worth bringing up, it does not prove anything.

it's someone trying to make money, end of.

[cjflora]

What about us uncommon guys?

[DARK WITNESS]

@ cjflora

lololololol.... oh, my bad.. ya, I see my F- up. " come on..." vs " common " . I don't know how I did that. lol.

[Perjoss]

didn't they run out of dead horses to beat yet?

[Anon1974]

To me, unless they broke into my house and replaced my old 360 with a newer, more reliable system RROD is absolutely still a concern for me, as I'm sure it is for many who own older systems or have been through multiple systems like myself.

It's like saying diabetes isn't a problem because you don't have it and the people who do have it are in the minority. Doesn't make it better for those of us who are afraid to buy games for a system they've spent their hard earned money on because history has shown them they can't rely on it. I think the 360 is a nice system, and I would have felt like I missed out if I didn't have a crack at games like Halo/Gears/Fable - however that doesn't change the fact that millions of us will leave this generation of games consoles feeling like they got shafted when Microsoft knowingly shipped out a faulty console and then refused to fix the problem for years, opting instead to replace broken consoles with refurbed, broken consoles that surprisingly aren't really any more reliable.

[Persistantthug]

I'll go rope em for ya.

:P

[athlon770]

Copied from the last couple of paragraphs of the "article":

Fixing the Xbox 360 yourself is not difficult, as long as you are comfortable opening up the machine yourself and following instructions.

The Xbox 360 3 Red Light Fix Guide is a a great solution to fixing the 3 ring rings of death on your Xbox 360 gaming console if any annoyance happen to bother you. The guide has proven to work many times over and over again for many Xbox 360 users worldwide, so it’s definitely legit.

You will receive 2 guides and 3 repair videos all dedicated and aimed at ridding you and other Xbox 360 owners of the Red Ring of Death and all those annoying errors we get when either starting up our system or get during game play.

Learn how to identify your Xbox 360 problems and how to fix them all by yourself in the guide Xbox 360 3 Red Light Fix.

[PR0X1]

If the 360 has RROD than the ps3 has no games... welcome to 2010 it's not 2007 anymore people!

The RROD has been fixed sinds 2007 let's move on you sad smelly ps3 fanboys.

[Scotland-The-Brave]

erm no... you are wrong. It has not been completely fixed, maybe reduced but not fixed.
My friend got it 2/3 weeks ago on his jasper chip xbox

[killajd]

Even the new Xbox360 slims are having the same problem! Do ur research first!!!

[KingKiff]

Since when?

My mates went about a month ago and he got a new one shipped out, and that's like the third time.

Fixed in 07 my ass.

Many go strong but to say they fixed it is a lie as they did not do anything other than up the warranty to 3 years.

[LoydX-mas]

Prove that a 360 slim has had a RROD.
You can't. It hasn't happened.
The new slim will temporarily shuts down BEFORE any RROD-type damage occurs IF it gets too hot.

[Anon1974]

Like I said above, unless someone broke into my house and replaced my old 360 with a more reliable unit, RROD is still an issue. There are over 20 million of us who bought a 360 before the Jasper boards came out. With the release of the Jasper board, did all our systems magically get replaced?

[ScoobyDrew]

then again the 360s' just came out... i'm waiting until I see some stats. I hope they get it right. Then maybe this fanboy bullshit will die off for a while.

[Kleptic]

wasn't there a video of a 360 S rrod'ing, and another one scratching a disc, just a few weeks ago at E3?...I swear something like that front paged on here around then...

not that I can really say much...my 60gb PS3 ylod'd almost a month ago...console failures fawkin' blow...

[rumplstilts]

Actually the 360 has RROD. I bought my elite 4 moths ago and it RROD'd in 2days. 2DAYS!!! I returned it to the store and they gave me a new one that his been doing fine since. Luck of the draw man!

[wenaldy]

So, there are 2 different meaning of Placebo:

1. The 'mthrfckng' awesome band
2. Xbox 360???

But the last one is not so awesome... :P

[TheMART]

lmao

"But it is disappointing that they have not find the solution yet today."

This is funny. Rehash old known stuff and say its a new article?

Come on. Yes, the first batch of 360's had no extra heatsink on the GPU, where the overheating mainly focussed. Since may 2007 every 360 and every repaired RROD 360 gets that extra heatsink connected to the GPU's heatsink and its floating connected with a copper heatpipe. That alone already prevented the GPU to keep that heat under the DVD drive alone.

After that motherboard and chip revisions made the console to produce less heat inside/use less power. The Falcon already was reasonable stable, but the 360's produced after beginning of 2009 have the most secure Jasper motherboard and 65nm chipset. Its these 360's up till the 360 Slim that are pretty much RROD proof. Or so to speak not more overheating than a PS3 with YLOD.

The 360 Slim will have further cut downs in energy use and possible RROD.

So this article is old stuff rehashed, no reflection of todays situation. At all.

[JoySticksFTW]

First Dark Sniper returns, now Mart?!

All we need now is Zhuk, Breakfast, Peter North, Nasim, and Juuken back to get this N4G party swinging again :D

[sikbeta]

WOW, you guys make me feel so nøøb, there is so much "history" in N4G before my arrival...

[soul899er]

MAAAAAART!! :D where have you been? LMAO still the same old. :3

[JoySticksFTW]

I'll catch some heat for this, but about three+ years ago when the console war was less civilized and in full swing, maaaan... it was some of the best times on this site.

Some real funny characters

Some would call them trolls, but at least they were funny, entertaining trolls

Breakfast didn't even have an allegiance. He'd jump from Sony fanboy to ultimate Xbox fanboy right back to Sony fanboy each post. Just to see who got the joke and how many disagrees he'd get.

Funny stuff. Fun times :)

[insomnium]

it's been a blast.

[commodore64]

Yeah...uh.. Juuken is still here.

Just using a new account.

Here she is:
http://n4g.com/user/home/mo...

Check mookins comment history... it's unmistakably Juuken/Ulti.
I used to love to see her weekly meltdowns...
Sadly, she seems to have mellowed with age.

[Kleptic]

I can honestly say I missed Mart...he seems much more reasonable now...anyone not familiar with him should check his history, he used to be pretty much THE 360 fanboy...aside from zhuk, but he seemed like a robot or something, with nothing but weird ass PR posts (similar to dark sniper, most likely the same person)...

[Captain Tuttle]

Yeah Joystick, you're right. It used to be alot more fun around here, some really talented, funny trolls on all sides. Bill Gates was great, juuken and her meltdowns (mookins is definitely juuken though). Now it's either people spouting off marketing slogans like "It only does everything!" or "Jump in" or "lolololol!" All the talent has left the building.

Good to see Mart is still around. Zhuk needs to show up more though.

[llMurcielagoll]

Lets not forget that "Bungie" guy as well. I will never forget that idiot.

"Crysis is a great game.

But Halo is better.

Halo is the best FPS of all time to date"

This guy had like I don't know more than 6 bubbles and eventually it bounced to one bubble lol. Good riddance.

[tplarkin7]

TheMART cites facts and Sony fanboys swarm the disagree button.

[Rucury]

I'm siding with this guy.

Facts are facts, people.

[Garnett]

Couldn't of said it better my self.

[Honest_gamer]

if only zhuk was still here does anyone else remember when dark sniper would end his posts with something like
sony snipers rise against the bots
and other stuff like that :L i used to be called garra724
I’ve been here sicne the start back when it was dominated with 360 fans and very few ps3 fans aww how times have changed

[skagrerrrr]

Hey, it's been a long time man!LOL

[maniacmayhem]

A RRoD article on N4G!? WOW!

I have to read this and see what this RRoD is! Because lord knows this is the first time i've seen this on this site.

[Gun_Senshi]

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[athlon770]

The PS3 is doomed...

[Persistantthug]

PS3 is teh DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMED!!!!!1 11

Do it proper next time.

*wink*

[sikbeta]

Oh, I thought it was "da døøømedz"

[insomnium]

and I like it!

[Focker-420]

The 3 red lights mean 'You're f*cked'

Simple as that

[ASSASSYN 36o]

This article is like blood in water full of sharks. Here they come...

Everything mentioned in this article is common knowledge to already informed xbox and sony gamers on the 3 red light issue. No new truth to the matter added.

[Domer25]

Yeah i agree^^, this sh!t is getting old. It's an AD for christ's sake.

bubbs up

[Jason143]

thermal compound. Until its replaced your xbox will always die. plain and simple.

[00000000000000000001]

The author hasn't a clue as to what caused the problems with the original 360s.

[J-Smith]

isn't it called RDoD now tho? LOL

[ForROME]

You really want to know what happened, go read the court case notes from the engineers that spoke up and were told to "ship them"

[ReBurn]

What was the case number? Was it a federal case or a state case. I really would like to read the details of the case.

[MorganX]

Me too, can anyone provide a link or is this made up?

[ForROME]

Here you go guys read this Article

"The warning signs were present even before Microsoft shipped any machines. In August 2005, as Microsoft was gearing up production, an engineer said: "Stop. You have to shut down the line." When production results are really off-kilter, stopping a line and tracing a problem back to its roots is the answer. But in this case, the decision was made to carry on."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/t...

[MorganX]

Good read. Very interesting. Pretty cool to see a software company fail with a software development mentality in the hardware business.

I'm not sure this isn't the way most manufacturing works only to a much lesser degree. I guess we should be glad MS can afford to replace them all for free. Because they are replacing them free, it's easier for me to accept that they did what they had to do to get into the market and now we have a great platform and Gears and XBL. Without that, I don't know. Even if you had to pay shipping, I might not.

I do think MS should offer all users of older systems, even those that have not failed yet, a trade-in option with extra credit for those who bought the over-priced wireless network adapters.

[dantheman68]

So according to this guy you have to build a special environmentally controlled room in your house in order to play games?...

"The most frequent and common cause of 3 red lights on Xbox 360 is overheating. There are two parts of Xbox system easily overheated. They are the console and the power brick. Although the designers have used vented openings, heat sinks and fans to aid in the dissipation of heat, the console still do not have enough air to breath. And so do the power brick. Therefore, you need to place the console in an open area and get the power brick up off the floor so it can breath on all four sides.

...

The last reason is the graphics processing unit(GPU). When the GPU gets too hot, it causes the motherboard to flex causing the soldering to become loose. This would cause occasional screen freezes and eventually you would get the three red lights on Xbox 360."

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[xTHRASHx]

I especially love how all the articles lately on the RRoD have been titled: IT is physically impossible for Xbox 360 S to RRoD. People that just skim over news look at that and go: "wow xbox finnaly fixed it". Not knowing that in actuality they just removed the red lights on the ring and its just a red dot now. I have m suscpicions that MS paid a few writers to post those articles like that :D haha. HEy you cant blame me for being a little jaded ive had 3 RRoD's

[SkylineR]

Whoever posted this only did it as a flame bait thing. C'mon FFS, enough with this shit.

1. The "article" is a f**king guide on how to repair your 360.

2. It's yet another anti-360 piece of "news" so people start saying sh*t again. Sigh.

So what's next? "Windows Vista is horrible" articles? Wouldn't surprise me.

[MorganX]

Since the guide is not free, this should be removed as SPAM, it's an ad.

[DARK WITNESS]

Guys you should all look up selling clickbank products and some of the internet marketing tactics they use to sell them.

Thats all this is.

it's prob an old article thats been spun ( they use bots to pull content or find an old article and then use a tool to re-write it so it looks like a new article) and then post it as new content to advertise and stuff.

I know, I do it myself just not in this niche.

The Auther prob does not have a clue, or maybe they do but whatever they are just saying what they need to say to get people to buy the product.

I could do the same thing for my blog if I wanted.

there are products like this for both the 360 and ps3.

it really is not worth fussing over.

[ReBurn]

Such a poorly written article. It was difficult to read the whole thing.

Talk about an investigation into one of the most thoroughly documented issues ever. Must have been the easiest 10 minutes of Google search and cut-and-paste in history. Because we learned nothing new.

[DARK WITNESS]

copy article + article spinner

[mwendel]

This is an ad for a company, and does nothing to shed light on the RROD.

Furthermore, if you own a Jasper, I doubt you have much to worry about; my Jasper has run flawlessly since I bought it 2 years ago. Trade your old one in, and get the new Slim or a reduced price Jasper.

Someone remove this dumb solicitation, please.

[rulakir]

If these Microsoft supporters (idiots) keep on buying and supporting a broken system this will almost always happen.

[quadalupeupe]

Worldwide sales is only 20 million if you count the 50% that died and people had to rebuy it

[codyodiodi]

How did this get approved? This is OLD as well as just an article written to sell a "how to fix your Xbox 360"

[gietzy]

It got approved because whoever posted it probably has 10 accounts.

[gietzy]

The article reads like it was written by a 4 year old.

[Cylon451]

You give the author far too much credit. :-)

[Cylon451]

Wow, this is breaking news! NOT....

[maurosv]

we still have some years for this console generation to end, and now is time to forget the rrod by doing the ultimate upgrade to your 360. no more rrod, more playing hours, more quality games and it includes bluray!!! think about it, this upgrade is avialable now for just $299.

[JJFNIGHTS80]

M$ just keeps fixing their mother board but never gets rid of the RROD. All they do is break it down in front of you and FORCE YOU TO BUY A NEW XBOX 360 that's how they will continue to make more money. Even the NEW SLIM gets the RROD. Still can't FIX their system. And still willing to sell more RROD Systems. Just glad I stuck with SONY WITH THE PS3.

[Richdad]

This is an advertisement. Also the main reason for failing of 360 is the lead free solder along with the other reasons like overheating etc.

It has tracked back already by MS, the same solder is used in PS3 too. But it doesnt has as much overheating issue as 360 hence it has much better life than 360 but still YLOD occurs.

So xbox slim might be the one to not RROD as it has less heating issue larger fan and radiator, they have also made some improvement with lead free solder. It is better than before.