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Ex- Concord Dev in Defense of Marathon & Against "Lack of Compassion" & "Vitriol" Attached to Games

One former Concord dev defends Marathon and discusses the "vitriol" people have toward games in a statement shared with MP1st.

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Alos8815d ago

Plenty of people are excited for Marathon- nobody was excited for Concord. That's the difference.

Kornholic15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Not really. It's quite rare to see excitement for Marathon in comment sections. The only place where I've seen positive rhetoric for Marathon is the game's subreddit.

TOTSUKO15d ago

The marathon discord jumped up around 300k on reveal. Which is like what, triple of what concord sold lmao

HyperMoused15d ago

Didnt he call anyone who didnt like his game talentless losers..yeah...vitriol

coolbeans15d ago

Hold on! He may have been on the same team, but that wasn't this developer's words. The guy who made the "talentless freaks" comment was Xavier Farrell. I don't know if Stephan Williams shared the same attitude, but I think it's fair to not hold that over his head.

thorstein15d ago

He's not wrong. There are talented, great devs who made games then quit because of online vitriol from a tiny group of shitstirrers.

Wow, you hate a game you couldn't possibly have played yet. Or you hate a game that you couldn't possibly have played. How original.

Normal people (because you never hear from them) when they don't like a game, don't care and move on. They don't waste their time talking shit about it.

And the people who do just search for people they want to agree with their bias.

Lightning7715d ago (Edited 15d ago )

"There are talented, great devs who made games then quit because of online vitriol from a tiny group of shitstirrers."

I dunno about Tiny group of ppl. Hell ppl online made it collectively known they didn't want Concord.

If you were speaking as early as last gen. Yeah you could say it was a handful of small ppl online that talk down on certain games but ultimately had no impact on the games sales. Look at Destiny IP. Ppl Talk so much crap about that game post launch and the game still sold like crazy. Same with 2. These days there's a collective whole of ppl who are trying to tear down games by using platforms and followers to do it. Grummz is a perfect example of someone who has been terrorizing the game industry with his rhetoric of "anti-wokeness" and he's been doing this most of this gen along with his retarded followers. Doesn't matter the game he'll go after it if it doesn't fit his agenda and world. he's hurt this industry with fake outrage that spreads like a disease. It's definitely not a tiny amount of ppl anymore it's annoying movement that's hurting this industry. If a game doesn't get announced perfectly 10 outta 10 the with no "agendas" then "fans" will destroy said game.

Eonjay14d ago

Grummz is a scam artist and part of his thing is using anti-workness as a sheild to block out the criticism he has rightfully earned.

Rancegamerx14d ago

What does compassion have to do with this? This person needs to realize he’s not living in some fantasy world. This is the real world, and he was involved in a massive failure. No one is obligated to offer compassion for failure just to make others feel better about themselves. The so-called vitriol comes from deeply frustrated people who are tired of the industry producing low-quality content and then blaming gamers instead of the creators. It’s ridiculous.

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Yes, ‘ARC Raiders’ Makes ‘Marathon’ Look Bad

It’s an unproven trend at this point, but the new race toward live multiplayer games appear to be the genre of extraction shooters, and this week brought an unusual situation with two upcoming 2025 extraction games both running Closed Alphas and so far, eliciting different reactions.

The reaction to the Marathon Alpha has mostly been mixed to underwhelming. The initial reaction to the ARC Raiders Alpha has visibly skewed more positive.

1Victor3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I see those Microsoft owned sites posting bad articles about marathon like they feel it’s going to beat CoD and all other FPS 🤣
Edit: I don’t play FPS so I don’t care enough to click on the link 🤷🏿just a observation from this article and the windows central article

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Babadook73d ago

Microsoft also seems to fund these dedicated fan boys to make fake accounts.

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Babadook72d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“fund good games unlike Sony”

Too little too late. 💀 Now they’re multiplat only. 💀 Buying studios was a desperate measure. 💀 Turned out great for PS5 owners though. 🥳

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RaidenBlack2d ago

Most ARC Raiders preview articles/player reception's seems to be same? Even in Bungie fan threads?
Do you guys even venture sites outside of N4G?

Christopher2d ago

Really? Seems to me like both are snoozers and people just aren't interested in these games.

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Marathon is doomed — ARC Raiders is already a much better extraction shooter

Windows Central: “Embark Studios' ARC Raiders is the extraction shooter I've been waiting for. Here's why it's better than Bungie's upcoming Marathon.”

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_SilverHawk_5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

This is silly. I think both games are amazing. Both games can be very successful at the same time and I hope they are.

z2g5d ago

I hate articles like this. “My opinion is all that matters. Click my stuff”. Both games will have their audiences. Some ppl like rock. Some ppl like rap. Not everyone is the same.

LordoftheCritics5d ago

Both are just another streamer game.

Killer2020UK4d ago

What's wrong with games suitable for streaming?

PapaBop4d ago

From what I've heard off friends who have access to both tests, Arc Raiders is leaps and bounds ahead of Marathon. Still as OW2 and Rivals prove, competition is healthy, hopefully Arc Raiders pushes Marathon to be a better game.

PanicMechanic2d ago

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say “marathon is amazing”. At least, not people who’ve had first hand experience playing it

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z2g5d ago

So we can we can see into the future now? I’m sure ARC is fine, me personally? Far more interested in Marathon. Between known Bungie’s solid gameplay and world building to the aesthetics and concept, I’m all in on Marathon.

InUrFoxHole5d ago

Yeah but unfortunately marathon are both in the hands of gamers and one has been recommend for delay.

RaidenBlack4d ago

Its from the previews bub ... respective communities responded ... no studio adherence bull crap here.

jjb19815d ago

I played the Technical Test 2 earlier today and had a blast. I got thrown in an instance, saw a guy walking up some stairs, started shooting at him and watched him run for his life. It was funny until I got killed by some random drones. They're both different games and will have their space. Only the gameplay loop will tell.

pwnmaster30005d ago

Why do gamers/gamejournalist do this? We need to stop with all this doom article game shit.

lodossrage5d ago

windowscentral wouldn't have wrote this "piece" if Bungie was still owned by Microsoft.

And yes, I'm implying exactly what anyone reading this comment thinks.

RaidenBlack4d ago

Arc is genuinely good (from the Finals devs {ex-Battlefield} ), 'if' you like extraction shooters and got to play it.
Get that typical console-warring posting outta here.

lodossrage4d ago

It has nothing to do with "console warring". It has everything to do with windowscentral credibility.

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Marathon Hands-On Preview — A Day In The Life Of A Corpo Reclaimer | CGM

I can safely say that this latest Marathon reboot has the potential to be among the best of the genre.

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darthv726d ago

So.... what's the over / under on this game also getting pulled shortly after release?

RaidenBlack6d ago

Arc Raiders is already getting better reception in the preview sessions than Marathon, anyways.

TOTSUKO6d ago

Idk why. Just got off ARC. Marathon has more hook. Arc gunplay is trash. There’s more reloading than shooting lol. It already has 3 different currencies & monetization trash on a play test.

Marathon has its shortcomings but the gunplay is superior. I actually went back to marathon lol

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