8GB VRAM problem highlighted yet again, this time by The Last of Us Part 2

Benchmark tests show that The Last of Us Part 2 can struggle with only 8GB of VRAM, which is bad news for the upcoming RTX 5060 & RTX 5060 Ti.

[neutralgamer1992]

Play the original whihx is much better

[PanicMechanic]

TLOU 2 has much improved gameplay. Still isn’t a third person action game out there with better gameplay

[Vits]

Oh yeah, the gameplay that matches so well with the narrative it gives you whiplash if you're paying attention. I swear TLOU 2 was developed by two different teams that had only minimal interaction with each other.

[neutralgamer1992]

Gameplay should be better in a sequel but story and characters are much much much much better in TLOU. There is a reason the original sold 3 times as much

[OmegaSoldati]

I remember when Grand Theft Auto V was running with 512 MB GGDR3 RAM.That was with the Xbox 360. Producers are not paying programmers to optimize games. Just my two cents, but i used to work with hardware, not an expert on software. Also Last of US part 1 had a horrible port on PC, i dont know about the part 2.

[hollabox]

TLOU 2 port is not bad so far. I played it on both my RTX 4070S and my 7900XT in 4K with and without upscaling. My 7900XT has abit more raster power, I do not have to use upscalers with everything set to max except shadows (set to high, you lose 6 FPS going very high) and get somewhere around 73 to 80 FPS. RTX 4070S was around 66 FPS, but it does drop below 60. Just enabled DLSS quality which looks good in this title and it's straight 60 v-sync or about 83 FPS in 4K with DLSS quality. I have fast SSDs with WD Black SN850 2-4TBs drives in both gaming PCs (living room and bedroom). My RTX 4070S CPU is an AMD 16 core 5900XT, and my 7900XT uses 9900X CPU, both uses tuned PBO and curve optimizer.

So you should be fine with anything around 6800XT, RTX 3800 TI, 4070S, 7800XT and above GPUs to run this game in 4K with a little bit of upscaling in quality mode. I only saw one bug in the beginning where Joel's arm stays up blocking the sun and did not go away until I started a new save. However, that was the first 5 minutes of the game.

[OmegaSoldati]

You have a good high end setup and understand about configurations. I'm looking forward to get a Steam Deck, im not worried about The Last of Us 2, but Valve handheld is not running this game as it should and the same could apply to other games, its the second time i see something related to the Last of Us and performance issues. Most of the time i would use that little thing docked on my small 24 monitor, im not looking forward to play AAA games and i don't care that much about performance, sure its better to have a great setup like yours, but i live in a third world country, i got to make my money count, so ive been researching a lot about. The other alternative would be a mid range PC, 6600 or 4060 for a example or even a 3060.

[hollabox]

No worries, what you can do is buy a Dell OptiPlex of Ebay 5060 or something similar off Ebay with atleast a Coffee Lake processor for about $250. Spend $125 and you can get a 5080 with Intel 10700. Now, the GPU is big, I would not go below a 6700XT or RTX 3060 TI in terms of performance. Those cards have the performance of modern day consoles. You're better off just buying a console if the budget is tight.

Amazon has Sapphire AMD 7700XT for $435 right now. This will get you above Xbox X, and PS5 performance, and about the performance of the PS5 Pro. Best Buy as XFX O.C AMD 7800XT for $629 which is faster than the PS5 Pro. Ebay has ASUS ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 TI OC for $360, that's in the 7600XT area of raster performance despite it's edge. Faster when enabling RT on the 2080 TI.

In terms of CPU, any Intel 10K series, AMD 5700X and above will do. The 3D cache stuff is honestly for e streamers and competitive gamers. Even AMD 3800X/3950X CPUs will do if all you want is 60 FPS. They only struggle hitting 120 FPS, will rocket past 60 FPS no problem. I had the 3800X up until last year, and CP2077 for example ran at 123 FPS on my 3800X. My 5900XT manages 158 to 161 FPS withe same GPU. My 9900X hits 188 to 192 FPS with the 7900XT. So the 3700X for example should suite your needs for $75 off Ebay.

[OmegaSoldati]

Yeah i might get that Steam little handheld or a cheap console to play some games from PS3/Xbox 360 era and some PC exclusives. I have a Ps4 Pro with a SSD Crucial bx500 installed, really made a difference, but im tired of consoles and my notebook/laptop is great, but i used it only to work, browse and study. I need to go PC or at least Steam deck (linux o.s). I need to be free! Amd cpu/gpu combo would be great for a simple setup too. Lets see if prices will get better, i was going to build it, but U.S VS China is chaos right now.

[anast]

5090 is the way moving forward. Open those wallets.

[Eidolon]

32GB is max for 5090 right? I think that's future proof for 4K + gaming, but I think even 16GB -24GB would be fine. I really think we should be getting 16GB standard on xx70 cards by now.. definitely a greedy decision. I think AI work has something to do with it, they can sell their 4090 equivalent card(A6000, which basically around the same performance, in fact 4090 might be better for SD, but the VRAM limits it) with double the VRAM but for $4000+. Lot of the heavy LLM and SD work requires significant VRAM.

[anast]

Yes, more is always better when it comes to this stuff. I would go 24 minimum. 16 you will still have problems.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

32GB is probably excessive, you'd never use it all gaming, I really think most cards should be sitting in the 16GB to 24GB range, even 12GB being the standard on the weakest card would be a noticeable improvement. I don't really like the fact that the 5080 only has 16GB, it's probably enough for now, but with how developers are nowadays... 24GBs would future-proof it for its entire life span (plus I plan to hang onto my cards for a long time).

[OpenGL]

Never say never but I agree for games in the next 3-5 years, 32GB probably won't be required. By the time it is there will be mid-range cards faster than the 5090.

[anast]

OpenGL

This is a good point.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@OpenGL
Yeah, I pretty much agree, that 32GB will outlive the 5090's lifespan, higher performing cards will be more likely to make use of that VRAM, but that's probably 2 generations away, at least, possibly.

[Destiny1080]

the only game you can play with only 8 gigs of ram, is counterstrike with no mods or doom 2 with mods

[Eidolon]

I'm actually running a lot of games on my 3060 TI 8gb at 1440P at High to Ultra, a lot with DLSS Quality but some not, like Atom Fall. But I get you, 8GB is now the lowest you can get, or it should be, yet GPU manufacturers are still making low-mid to mid cards with 8GB, it's sad.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

8GB shouldn't be the standard on the lowest end of the range, they really should bump it up to at least 12GB, preferably 16GB.

Games from 4 years ago get close to maxing out the 11GB on my 1080ti at 1440p.

[Michiel1989]

8gb is more than enough for 1080p and also fine for 1440p for most games and yes there should be cards for those kind of pc's. Bro you're talking about an 1080 ti....lets not compare that to 8gb versions of the new series they will outperform it and it won't be close.