Did God of War Ragnarok Make Kratos Weaker?

There’s a clear divide between the Kratos that fought against the Greek pantheon and the one who now faces Ragnarok. In the latest entry in Santa Monica Studios’ epic saga, God of War Ragnarok, Kratos seems weaker than he used to be.

[LG_Fox_Brazil]

It's hard to talk about this without delving in spoilers territory, but it is pretty clear that Kratos is trying to hold back every since he arrived in this new realm. There is a fight early on in Ragnarok where Kratos' adversary says that he wants to see the Ghost of Sparta in full old style mode and Kratos does not want to go back to his old days because he is afraid to become his greek self again.

By the end of Ragnarok, though, it is possible to look back and see pretty clearly that even when trying to restrain himself, Kratos still did very well against all his adversaries, so, no, Kratos is not weaker. He is now in some kind of Superman state of mind where he never uses his full power because he would shatter the land around he like he did in Greece, but he still can beat pretty much anyone that stands in his way and refuses his offer to walk away from a fight with the greek God of War

[Shadowsteal]

100% agree. Especially when he tore apart that Troll like bread in Svartelheim, you can tell he was extremely pissed off.

[GoodGuy09]

Man has gotten old and been through too much. Haven't beaten the game yet so I don't know what happens but I hope he retires after Ragnarok and Atreus takes over.

[robtion]

Simple solution, put it on easy.

[Sonic1881]

The AI is so dumb on that mode 😂

[Sashamaz]

The Atreus segments have been some of the most frustrating for me so no keep Kratos as he is.

[Vithar]

i got killed by the first 5 worms that kept attacking me from where i could not see them and I'm a god of War? lol

[P_Bomb]

Lol, I’ve died too. Sometimes the little buggers and later the flying guys can really play spoiler to a good combo. You know what I hate the most tho? The plants! Fortunately your shield can put a full stop to their machine gun spray.

[obidanshinobi]

God of Worms

[SeTTriP]

You have to pay attention at all times in combat.playing on gmgow.

They flank so effectively.

[TheEnigma313]

Kratos is older and in a different realm, I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. Kratos also seems to have more control over his emotions these days; that definitely plays a part in his strength. How old is kratos actually? Does he age slower or like a normal human still?

[MrVux000]

He is a demi-god / god, aging is definitely much slower (in appearance).

He is well over 100-150 by now, and gods should gain more strength the older they get.

[princejb134]

I read a few articles online they estimate his age to be 900-1000 years old

[SeTTriP]

I read that kartos is over 1000yrs old

[Extermin8or3_]

God's are immortal. They as can be gleamed from ingame conversations don't generally die unless killed by something/someone.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

I think they made Kratos talk a little to much in GoWR. He’s more sensitive than I’d like him to be. I miss the old PS3 era Kratos more.

[SyntheticForm]

The supporting cast are a bunch of bleeding hearts. Kratos is the same, albeit a bit less stoic and more human this time around. Sounds like a knock, but I really enjoyed the game and the writing. SMS hit a home run.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

No….

**2018 SPOILER**

he flipped Tyr’s temple in 2018. What did he do in Greece that was stronger?

ALSO, I’m only 2 hours into Ragnorak, so keep replies to 2018 content or earlier, PLEASE, tyty

[MrVux000]

Not only did he flip the temple he literally rotated the temple and the bridge without breaking a sweat.

This without mentioning the fact that even then he is holding back his power, makes me wonder what are his limits.

Heck, even Cory Barlog stated that Kratos is more powerful in new saga.

[goldwyncq]

Didn't he stop Cronos' colossal thumb with both hands from crushing him in GoW 3? That's a much more impressive feat than flipping a temple.

[MrVux000]

If you don't mind putting on your nerd glasses;

Cronos is anywhere between 490 - 810 meters tall. Using Kratos's body and average human weight as a reference we can determine approximately how much Cronos' hand weighs (which is around 72,900 tons).

Using the formula for acceleration is 2s/t^2 =a, which results in a=2261.94 m/s^2 , which multiplied by the mass results in Cronos' clap having a force of 164,895,426,000 Newtons.

Now lets compare that to the Tyr's temple bridge - which we already know the exact weight thanks to Cory Barlog confirmation via Twitter ( https://twitter.com/corybar... ) - which is 1,774,000 tons.

Kratos not only moved the bridge and Tyr's temple with it, but also moved tons of water, but for the sake of this comparison we won't add that into equation.

So to move that bridge he will need to put out 176,761,651,770 Newtons of force to move it. That is approximately 12,000,000,000 Newtons more than what we saw with Cronos (and this is again ... without including tons and tons of water from the Lake of the Nine which means it takes much much more force).

So while visually Cronos feat might be more impressive, it still does not take away from the other feats ... like moving that bridge.

[one2thr]

My memory is fuzzy, but didn't he essentially lift the weight of Mt. Olympus off of Pandoras box, before he literally pulled it through Mt. Olympus, in GOW3?

[one2thr]

Correction: He pulled the labyrinth through Mt. Olympus, from the bottom to the top.

[kayoss]

Not weaker, more human.

[MrVux000]

People much smarter than your average gamer and actually bothered to do some research with the lore ... and calculations have already concluded that Kratos is indeed much stronger than he was in prior entries.
And it is pretty evident that he is indeed quite holding back.

It also makes sense for gods to get stronger the older they get btw.

[darkrider]

Of course there is a change. Did the person that make this opinion played the games?

Because the first games are a pure rage, revenge, blind fury againts the greek gods! The asgard story is nothing of that. He is tryng to protect is family and having a relationship with is son. Kratos here is not always furious and being like world breaker hulk.

[godofiron]

kratos is definitely stronger.

not only are the norse gods stronger than the greek gods in general, kratos flipping Tyr's temple straight up outclasses anything he's done in the original trilogy, in terms of displays of physical strength.

[goldwyncq]

He fought Cronos, a foe big enough to make him look like an ant in comparison, and won. That's way more impressive than flipping a temple.

[Extermin8or3_]

A temple made of solid gold and metal the size it is. Woukd weight way more then chronos....

[goldwyncq]

^ That's nonsense. Cronos is literally the size of a mountain.

[one2thr]

On top of that, he outpowered Cronos's fingers with little to no leverage to counteract Cronos finger strength.

[SatanSki]

But is he already fragile, weak, women sidekick? If not, we are not done yet, lol

[MrNinosan]

Another story to try find something bad about the game. Haters and fanboys are really doing their best.

Anyways, play the game/s instead, and you'll understand why Kratos ain't using his "full" power.

[isarai]

Me thinks you missed the entire pillar of the new game's narrative. He regularly talks about controlling anger, and how he used to be an angry person, couple that with his "Spartan Rage" ability in the game and it's pretty obvious that his rage made him powerful, buy is not how he wants to live anymore, so essentially his more powerful Spartan Rage state was his default for the previous series.

[kythlyn]

On No Mercy, Kratos can be killed by a tiny lizard thing in like 3 bites.

[AnotherGamer]

I mean, that's one of the points if ya following the game's narrative.

[gold_drake]

you mean .. more caring about his son?
absolutely.

caring for people is not a weakness you know. especially as a guy.

[Moe-Gunz]

Clearly part of the narrative is Kratos continuing to hold back in order to refrain from going to his old ways.

“Death can have me when it earns me”

[DynDasE]

It's explained in the game, spoiler territory.

[Walalon]

To be honest more than weaker, it’s showing us the more human side of him. And to be honest that’s not weak at all lol