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Halo Infinite slip-up: 343 releases Juneteenth cosmetic with inappropriate nameplate title

The 343 developers made a major error when releasing content.

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Christopher687d ago

Saw this on Reddit yesterday. Definitely a big talking to for someone on the design team. No way that was done by mistake.

Interloper687d ago

Actually, it wasn't. According to what info I've managed to gather, the name itself has something to do with a development tool they either use or have used in the past.

Christopher687d ago (Edited 687d ago )

Sure. That's the excuse they gave (don't know why you say info you've managed to gather when they literally gave that excuse on Reddit). 100% a toolset and *just happens* to use the toolset name for just this item for this specific group of people where said reference is considered offensive.

https://twitter.com/MintBli...

But, just this one image had that mistake. Even though there are literal names for each template (such as Omaha there).

Jin_Sakai687d ago

“Sure. That's the excuse they gave (don't know why you say info you've managed to gather when they literally gave that excuse on Reddit). 100% a toolset and *just happens* to use the toolset name for just this item for this specific group of people where said reference is considered offensive.”

https://i.ibb.co/LQ0T0gP/2-...

ABizzel1687d ago (Edited 687d ago )

@Jin_Sakai

You can post it all you want, the issue is not what the toolset was named as. The issue is CLEARLY what Christopher said, they "*just happens* to use the toolset name for just this item for this specific group of people where said reference is considered offensive."

They released a Juneteenth nameplate, to celebrate the end of slavery for African-Americans, and out of all the things they could have named it they chose Bonobo, an endangered species of Apes. Knowing d@mn well it has been a lifelong insult for darker-skinned people to be referred to as apes.

Take that link and shove it right alongside 343i.

Mr Pumblechook687d ago

@ABizzel1 Until i came across this story on Twitter a day ago I didn't know that a bonobo is an endangered ape, I don't find it a stretch that someone at Microsoft is as ignorant on the topic of them as me. However why give the nameplate a vague name and not call it Juneteenth from the start?

ABizzel1687d ago (Edited 687d ago )

@Mr-Pum

As you said if anything it should have been named "Juneteenth" since the description of the nameplate is literally what the holiday is about "Commemorating the end of slavery in the United States".

Instead, they name it Bonobo, named after a "toolkit", which is named after an ape, and release Bonobo to celebrate African-Americas and their battle with slavery:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

This is why people are always rightfully campaigning for diversity, representation, and inclusion.

Orchard687d ago

I don't buy it. Why would you be entering the tool name as a skin/dlc placeholder name? That makes no sense.

And by that logic, they'd have hundreds or thousands of 'Bonobo' entries in the tool itself, so how would you even get any work done or find what you were looking for...

Also where is the quality control? Presumably one person doesn't click a button and this goes live.

Eonjay686d ago

@Orchard

100% Correct.

Jin_Sakai686d ago

The issue is CLEARLY what Christopher said, they "*just happens* to use the toolset name for just this item for this specific group of people where said reference is considered offensive."

I never said it wasn’t. Sounds like they’re making some inappropriate jokes internally and accidentally sent it out the door. Doesn’t surprise me though being 343i.

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Zeref687d ago (Edited 687d ago )

it was a genuine mistake, very unfortunate that it had to happen exactly with this nameplate though lol.

The tool that they use for nameplates is called Bonobo, and it's notoriously very finicky to work with. It defaulted back to Bonobo when somebody probably didn't use it correctly.

Eonjay686d ago

No one believe's that. Because its BS. In all my years of development I have never had a label default to the name a development tool, IDE, or SDK. Thats not a thing. Most defaults are either NULL, blanks, '-', 'Label(x)', 'Name' or the actual name of the var or field used. This is clearly intentional and has only happened this one time. This is not the hill to die on.

XiNatsuDragnel686d ago

No one believes it Zeref nii san.

Zeref686d ago (Edited 686d ago )

There is actually evidence of this. Screenshot of the tool they used before this whole controversy. It really is called Bonobo.

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generic-user-name686d ago

It's suspicious, but if it's not a mistake, the alternative is a dev put it in there knowing if they were caught they'd be screwed, not just at Bungie, but their name would be sullied by the entire industry, maybe never finding work there again. Seems like a lot to put on the line for something that was obviously going to be spotted.

Christopher686d ago

People have done way dumber things. I mean, there are people who sexually harass women in the workplace regularly in the gaming industry.

generic-user-name686d ago

@Christopher

While that's true, they sexually harass women behind closed doors, not where everyone can immediately see it happening.

Michiel1989686d ago

so youre saying theyre racists? Proud man to throw those insults at them online. Maybe you should go back to twitter, seems to be your kinda thing.

I just see no reason for them to do this on purpose except if it was some rogue employee with bad intentions. Its just a bit sad that no mistakes can ever be made without people jumping the gun. Maybe im giving them the benefit of the doubt too much, but just like you there is no certainty at all.

Christopher685d ago

Perhaps you should learn to read. Please inform me where I called anyone racist. Let alone a whole company? Much like the Internet, people make really bad attempts at jokes in the workplace as well, let alone this got through multiple levels of QA. No one here thinks 343 has it out for Juneteenth or are a racist company.

***a bit sad that no mistakes can ever be made without people jumping the gun***

Ironic considering your response to me. And tons of mistakes go by without tons of people commenting on them. This one? It's quite a lot of coincidences stacked on top of one another for a very notable day of celebration.

Michiel1989685d ago

you heavily implied they are.

Christopher685d ago

***you heavily implied they are.***

Not at all. Stop making up stuff.

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GoodGuy09687d ago

Idk why these companies even try to celebrate these kinds of holidays when they end up actually doing more harm lol. If they have someone in their staff that actually knows their stuff then sure, why not.

ABizzel1687d ago

It could be as simple as posting a "Happy Juneteenth" on Social Media, and making a post celebrating their "African-American staff" and appreciating them for their contributions to gaming.

Instead, your get crazy stuff like this, Wal-Mart attempting to capitalize on Juneteenth colored ice-cream, and so many other head-scratching moments. This is what black people mean by lack of diversity and inclusion because if there was enough of it these types of situations would be caught before becoming PR issues.

Tacoboto687d ago

I've got a strong inkling that the only kind of black representation at this Seattle-area game developer is a white person grandstanding about Juneteenth after they learned about it on Twitter two years ago.

RaiderNation686d ago

I agree. I'm not sure when corporations decided to become activists and get publicly involved in social/political issues. I don't give a rat's ass whether or not you support this cause or that cause. Just do your job, produce your products, and let me decide whether those products are worth buying.

SullysCigar686d ago

In 2022, this is apparently too much to ask. This is just one example how these kinds of actions can bite them on the arse.

I'm with you 100%. Companies should stick to their purpose and leave the politics to the politicians. They don't need help effing things up!

SeTTriP686d ago

I don't think this was meant for celebratory purposes.

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SullysCigar687d ago

Oof it's like they'll do anything to get someone - ANYONE - to care, at this stage.

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Futureshark687d ago

Unbelievable! Are they are next going to release a LGBTQ+ cosmetic with the name 'f*gg*t' or similar.

Stay classy 343

Deathdeliverer687d ago

Actually that’s too in your face. They would do something subtle like a plaque called Giovanni di Giovanni. Then verrrry few, just like the great ape, would catch on. If they got caught they would just say it was the name of the office cat they got… yesterday.

DarXyde686d ago

I would expect something like "Nancy" if they were trying to be mildly subtle.

Either way, this is pretty bizarre and it makes it clear, in no uncertain terms, that 343i is run by muppets.

It reminds me of Yahoo taking about a bigger navy... But whoever wrote that article missed the "b" key and.... Yeah.

Odd that these blunders tend to go one way. Almost feels like dog whistles, frankly.

Lexreborn2687d ago

I’ve never used orca to re-write an msi and named the file after orca.

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It Looks Like Kerbal Space Program 2 Dev Intercept Games Has Been Shut Down

Intercept Games, the developer of space sim Kerbal Space Program 2, appears to have been shut down by parent company Take-Two.

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Take-Two Interactive is closing two studios, including Rollerdrome developer Roll7

As part of previously-announced layoffs, Take-Two Interactive is closing Intercept Games and Roll7.

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LucasRuinedChildhood4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I loved Rollerdrome and was looking forward to a Rollerdrome 2. 😐

Don't want to be melodramatic but as far you can be upset over video-game news ... bit heartbroken.

I feel like there's a trend of well made games like this going largely ignored by the gaming audience. It's quite frustrating. I hope the devs form a new studio but I suppose they'd have to start again from scratch.

JEECE1h ago

"I feel like there's a trend of well made games like this going largely ignored by the gaming audience."

Yep. I'd love to know how many of us actually bought this game, rather than just getting it on Gamepass or PS Plus. Probably a shockingly low number. Steam concurrents topped out at 419.

I know it's anecdotal, but when I think of my favorite indie games, I still largely think of titles that came out in the 2009-2015 range. Maybe with less competition it was easier to stand out then, but I just felt like at that time there was more recognition of the really great indie games that were worth your time.

TheLigX3h ago

Olliolli 2, olliolli world and rollerdrome are some of my favorite indies of all time. This industry is disgusting lately.

solideagle3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

it's not industry's fault, it's the consumers fault. Audience just wants to play shooter/Battle Royale etc...

Christopher1h ago

No. It's the publisher's fixation on profit margins. They only want the most profitable of products. It's greed.

Inverno1h ago

I wouldn't blame consumers entirely either. If shooters and Battle Royal is all we're given then it's all we've got to buy. If the AAA industry wouldn't follow trends so obsessively it'd be better varied.

JEECE1h ago

There is fault to go around. Some of it is on consumers for sure. We whine constantly about live service games, but then we play them anyway and ignore better smaller titles.

But publishers and platform holders bear some responsibility too. You hear stories come out from indie devs who had big hits in the late PS3/360 to early PS4/XONE window who can barely move units now, and some of that is definitely failure to advertise and poor discoverability. During that era I felt like I reliably heard about the worthwhile indies, and now I don't.

Then there is the game pass effect (and PS Plus to a lesser extent). So many consumers have now been trained to expect to get indies with their subscriptions, they don't want to pay $20-$40 for them anymore.

Gamble203h ago

If the games made money the studios wouldn’t be closing. Blame consumers for not supporting “indies”

Killer2020UK2h ago

I've got to disagree with the comments blaming consumers. Yes that is a part of it but by and large the money men are closing studios and sacking staff to increase profitability. Let's not forget the obscene salaries they're on compared to the people who actually make the games. Take 2 are not short of cash, this didn't have to happen.

JEECE1h ago

The thing is, some of the Indie devs closing are really independent. In other words, we can blame Take 2 here, but who can we blame other than the consumers when a fully independent dev shuts down because their games aren't selling? There is an answer to that question, it just isn't greedy publishers, even if they are the most fun to blame.

notachance3h ago

ah damn, I loved olliolli series

monkey6022h ago

I loved Olli Olli.

I wanted to like Rollerdrome a lot more than I actually did. Shame about the studio though

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Batman: Arkham Shadow - Official Teaser Trailer

Watch the Batman: Arkham Shadow teaser trailer for the next game in the Batman: Arkham franchise, releasing exclusively on the Meta Quest 3 in late 2024.Evil stalks the streets. Gotham City is in danger. And you’re the only one who can save it. Check out the teaser for the upcoming Batman VR game.Tune into Summer Game Fest 2024 on June 7 at 2pm PT/ 5pm ET/ 10pm BST/ June 8 at 7am AEST for the official Batman: Arkham Shadow world premiere reveal from Camouflaj and Oculus Studios, in partnership with Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment and DC.

Petebloodyonion17h ago

Nice to see some VR games following Batman Arkham!
Was a huge fan of Batman Vr on PSVR :)

Cacabunga9h ago

Quest 3 only is a letdown.. need to see what the experience will be like.

Looks like Ratcatcher will be the main villain in this game.. you gotta love thos rat waves in VR. Was already too much with A Plague Tale Requiem…

Also gives hope WB is not giving up on Arkham series.. hopefully a Rocksteady full blown Batman game after the suicide mission they just got..

Petebloodyonion5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I would not be surprised if a PSVR2 version is announced after.
If there's none, It would mean that devs truly believe that PSVR2 is dead.

And really loved Plague tale Requiem (feel bad about the ending)

shinoff218315h ago

Shame that something like this won't be on psvr2. Sony really has to step up on this front. There's a bunch of neat and nifty games out there for it. I'll end up getting one once I get caught up buying all the rpgs I've missed these last few years. Anyway I can't justify spending money on this with only a couple major vr titles. Re4 doesn't cut it for me since I was never a huge fan of the game. To see this batman as an exclusive, unless I'm wrong. Sony gotta pump something up

mooreneco212h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Sadly Camouflaj was acquired by Meta in 2022 when Sony allowed the psvr Iron man game to be ported to the quest, but given the amount of cash meta is losing never say never…..

Toecutter004h ago(Edited 4h ago)

What if Gotham Knights was a direct sequel to the Arkhamverse and was a battle for the cowl storyline, but the the traditional fighting mechanics while still being coop optional? What if SSKTJL wasn't set in the Arkhamverse and a wholey elseworlds story? What if this new batman game wasn't just VR cobblygook?