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Xbox and Bethesda talk about their future in new roundtable livestream

Leaders from Microsoft and Bethesda will talk about the future.

AngelicIceDiamond1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

I'm not expecting reveals trailers or gameplay but I am expecting them to tell us what's going where. Starfield has been rumored to release closer than expected for awhile so they need to tell us where that game is going. That should be their first priority during this whole stream.

RazzerRedux1145d ago

Posting this here for visibility. The timestamp in the link I posted below has changed.

"Phil Spencer talks some about exclusivity here:

https://youtu.be/YJneU_qBMP...

RazzerRedux1145d ago

Phil Spencer talks some about exclusivity here:

https://youtu.be/YJneU_qBMP...

Clears it up enough for me. My take on all of this has been speculative, but also completely wrong. Bethesda games will be exclusive to "platforms where Game Pass exist". Spencer makes caveats for existing games or contractual obligations, but he might as well said "Elder Scrolls, Starfield, Doom, Prey, etc. will no longer be on PlayStation".

That's that in my mind.

Christopher1145d ago

People are choosing to take support their game pass consumers as their main goal as to mean ignore others. Yet he specifically states in the previous sentence that they aren't closed to deals with other platforms.

"And even in the future, there might be things that have, either contractual things or legacy on different platforms that we’ll go do. But if you’re an Xbox customer, the thing I want you to know is this is about delivering great exclusive games for you, that ship on platforms, where Game Pass exists, and that’s our goal."

RazzerRedux1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

Right. Bethesda is going to honor contractual obligations. They will also supported older (legacy) games on whatever platforms they are on. Everything else is entirely about Game Pass. So if Bethesda already made a deal to bring Starfield to PlayStation, for example, then it will be there. (Or perhaps even the Indiana Jones game) But Spencer last sentence you quoted was emphatic about exclusive to Game Pass platforms.

gamer78041145d ago

That’s only existing deals or mmo games. If you want to play single player Bethesda games you will need a Windows PC or an Xbox.

Christopher1145d ago

"In the future... We'll go do."

It's like people are just ignoring what was said similar to how people thought MS once said no single player games.

Atom6661145d ago

Well, step 1 to reading and any Spencer quote is to try to fit it into their own confirmation bias.

While I wasn't shocked today, I did think they were much more direct than I expected. They of course left the door open for the future, but sounds like that will be the exception to rule.

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RaveTears1145d ago

Damn, Fallout 4 is the last Bethesda game that I bought on PlayStation. I guess, my wallet is going to be happy.

Zeref1145d ago

Case closed, finally. I got tired of talking about it

MrDead1145d ago

30 years of multiplatform ip's taken and locked away.

Has anyone done anything more anti-gamer than that?

Atticus_finch1145d ago

But but "Is not a monopoly"

gamer78041145d ago

they aren't really locked away, depends on how you look at it, you'll now be able to play their games on more devices than ever before. locked away from playstation yah.

Zeref1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

locked away? You're free to go buy it on PC or Xbox. Or subscribe to gamepass and play it via xCloud.

That's more consumer friendly than Playstation games where you absolutely have to have the console to play anything. I'm glad they're at least starting to put them on PC.

Tetsdah1144d ago

Lol, just gotta get a SeriesX down the line pretty much. That's fine. Thankfully, we are finally past "exclusives are anticonsumer " or "exclusives are counter to what gaming is about". Literally the way that the game industry has been working for decades.

But now Series X has cemented another genre for its base. I may scoop it up down the line when those games arrive.

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cbuc11251145d ago

As a PS owner this doesnt bother me at all. I never owned any Bethesda games.

shabz6661145d ago

As a ps owner too thats kind of nuts since they have some amazing games like doom and dishonored but to each their own 🤷🏽‍♂️

Ron_Danger1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

To each their own is right. I used to get Bethesda games day 1 but the last few years my taste in games has changed and now I only get them on deep sales. I got the newest doom and newest Wolfenstein in a combo deal and I have about 3 hours in doom and 2 hours in Wolfenstein... neither clicked for me. I’m just not that into a character being a badass as a story point. My fiancée is gonna be a little annoyed though because she has around 1000 hours of PS4 Skyrim with multiple character builds.

Julion07151145d ago

Kool story so why are you here?

gamer78041145d ago

You should say as someone who doesn’t like any Bethesda games.... because having a ps has nothing to do with whether you like a game or not. Or atleast it shouldn’t.

Jericho13371145d ago

Fair enough, but plenty have and would if they were third party.

Having said that, I keep getting told by PS owners that you all have high speed gaming PCs so I suppose you’ve got nothing to worry about.

enkiduxiv1145d ago

High Speed isn't really necessary for Bethesda games. Maybe for ID and Arkane. I can't imagine that anything made on that god awful Creation engine would struggle to work on a GTX 780.

Atticus_finch1145d ago

The only bethesda game I ever bought was FO4. So I feel the same I won't really miss them considering now that they will be making GP games. But it really hurts the industry to have a well established big publisher be bought out to make rental games.

OptimusDK1145d ago

You must be very special then or just plain stupid.

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Highrevz1145d ago

I almost skipped on watching it but glad I didn’t.

-20 Bethesda titles dropping on Gamepass tomorrow.

-A new Bethesda game coming this summer.

- If your platform supports Gamepass, there’s no need to worry about exclusives.

- more FPS Boost titles are in the works.

CaptainHenry9161145d ago

- If your platform supports Gamepass, there’s no need to worry about exclusives.

What about the price increase for gamepass in the future. Microsoft needs to make profit someway.

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Highrevz1145d ago

I don’t pay a penny for gamepass ultimate as I use Microsoft rewards But if the contents there then I’d be happy to pay the right price.
It’s already a great offer as it is but I’m able to lock in 3 years worth so even a ridiculous price increase isn’t going to effect me anytime soon.

Honestly the price isn’t going to increase and if it does it would only be by a small amount.

Your far to “proud” to be using gamepass anyway so whats it to you🤷‍♂️ There’s no negatives here for you to get hard over.

ocelot071145d ago

@MadDestruction

Is that 100% facts or pulled out your backside? What about the people like my self who only pay £1 a month? Or the people who bought bought a load of cheap Xbox live codes and converted them to gamepass ultimate and are now set for the next 3 years?

Atticus_finch1145d ago

$100 million
Minus all the 3rd party games they have to pay for
Minus ads
Minus Discounted or free accounts
Minus 7.5 billion
Minus maintenance
And whatever else I missed.

ReadyPlayer221145d ago

Hey Atticus, you know how much money Sony and Microsoft make off of microtransactions? Because theybeach get a cut of every single transaction. 18 million+ paying customers is massive

jbull1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

@MadDestruction, that's not a whole pile of money when you factor in taxes, the employees Microsoft has now under MS studios and Bethesda and AAA games development cost.

343_Guilty_Spark1145d ago

How much do you spend on games a year?

$15 times 12 month is $160 per year which is the same as buying two and a half full-priced PS5 games

Making a big deal about nothing.

CaptainHenry9161145d ago

@343

Expect a 10-15 dollar price increase for gamepass by the end of the year. Xbox game division aren't making any money or profits from gamepass. Aaron Greenberg already mentioned that

CaptainHenry9161145d ago

@343

Xbox gamepass is mostly just old games though

343_Guilty_Spark1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

I should expect a price increase based on what? XBL has barely increased in price for almost 15 years

Games aren't old if you've never played them. You play every game though right?

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Square Enix Declares $140m Loss Amid Game Pipeline Shakeup

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth publisher Square Enix has declared a $140m loss based on a shakeup of its internal development pipeline.

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Furesis2h ago

What are they doing over there? Sounds like they canceled something big. I read a rumor a while back about ff9 remake . Here "Final Fantasy IX has gone through a very challenging development, the game is still in progress but may undergo changes drastic enough that we won't hear about it for a couple of years."
This could be one of the reasons if the rumor is true. That was Silknight i don't know how credible he is but it's something and it would make sense.

-Foxtrot1h ago

I hope IX is still on the cards

Just a straight up remake which they expand a little bit nothing over ambitious

If IX dosent happen then VI and VIII will never be thought of.

shadowT1h ago

Do not miss Final Fantasy 16. Great game!

raWfodog1h ago

I'm waiting for them to release the complete edition bundle, but it's definitely on my list.

PhillyDonJawn36m ago

Wth is going on with the gaming industry?

TiredGamer30m ago

The industry implosion is continuing. Sky high budgets, prolonged development windows, stagnant sales numbers, and falling currency values (inflation) are wreaking havoc on the legacy industry. AAA games will slowly become the rarity.

CS728m ago

Sad. Rebirth was one of my favorite games in a long time. Should have sold more.

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Here's Everything I Expect From The Witcher 4's Combat

Danish from eXputer: "The Witcher's upcoming sequel needs to overhaul the series' combat system if it wants to make a big splash among gamers."

on_line_forever6h ago

after what we see ( 2015 - 2024 ) in dark souls 3, blood borne , sekiro , dragon's dogma 2 , rise of the Ronin combat they should really careful and bring very good combat in Witcher 4 this time

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Square & Bandai Namco Being Honest About Quality Is A Step In The Right Direction

Saad from eXputer: "After suffering from massive financial hits, Square Enix & Bandai Namco appear to be turning over a new leaf but I'm still unconvinced."

Nerdmaster16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I was talking about games with some Japanese guys here in Japan, and it seems like around here Bandai Namco has a fame of making low-quality games, with the occasional gem.

About Square Enix, I believe they lack the capacity to improve. They should learn with Capcom (although even Capcom still makes some bad mistakes), but I don't think they ever will. They keep chasing whatever is new at the time (blockchain, AI...) to say "we innovate", without considering the public perception and if these things actually improve the games or not. Them releasing too many small games with no advertising also shows a lack of trust in its own products. Even with their biggest games, like turning FF into an action game with XVI and the very divisive plot changes regarding whispers and timelines in VII Remake, shows them trying to attract a new generation of gamers without understanding what made the series so big in the first place.

shinoff218315h ago

I want a true ff7 remake. With thatcsaid I'm way happier with 7 remake then I was with ff16. I'd still prefer turn based but square keep chasing these Lil kids

Snookies1212h ago

Man, it is perfectly fine to prefer turn based. Turn based is amazing. But there's zero reason to call anyone who likes action games "lil kids". Liking one gameplay system over another does not make you more mature in any way.

VersusDMC15h ago

People love the new FF's overall...the problem is the abundance of 7's they release that lose money or make very little like diofield, star ocean divine force, Valkyrie asylum, harvestella, foam stars, etc. Advertising wouldn't have saved those games. Apparently Forespoken had a big Advertising budget but we saw how that went.

shinoff218314h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Star ocean divine force actually sold well from what I've read not ff type numbers but well enough. Was a dope game to.

FinalFantasyFanatic13h ago

Bandai Namco is going to Bandai Namco, I do believe that Square Enix can't change without changing the entire management, they've had these issues for more than a decade and haven't learnt, I have very little faith they can course correct. I'll still buy their better remasters/remakes like Star Ocean 2 though (not FF7R).

Asterphoenix11h ago

Namco is just milking the same Sword Art Online with lack of budget as well as anime IPs that don't go to decent developers like Jujutsu Kaisen and My Hero Academia. Namco deserves their losses and no future Dot Hack or Xenosaga remaster :(.

Square allocated lot of their budget on Forspoken was a mistake. Square always had management issues. Star Ocean 2 was a great remake and I found their recent entries of FF(16 and Rebirth) better than 13 and 15.
I think they were better than 360/PS3 generation where Square went really downhill.

CrimsonWing6914h ago

I don’t know why NOW they decide on this, but I guess later is better than never.