They Knew It Was Wrong. CD Projekt Red Deceived Consumers Anyway.

CD Projekt Red sought to mislead consumers and secure their bonuses when distributing review copies.

[Knightofelemia]

No Man's Sky all over again I feel sorry for WB publishing the game when WB publishes something its good.

[SullysCigar]

Except NMS is one of the greatest turnarounds in gaming history. Cyberpunk's got a LONG way to go to make good on these crappy launch shenanigans...

[Army_of_Darkness]

I'm better off buying this game next year. Bugs will be fixed, added dlc, plus it will be cheaper.

[MadLad]

CDPR didn't outright lie about the game they were releasing. The content they promised is there, it's just a janky mess.
No Man's Sky was a straight up lie in design and mechanics.
It's different, and I doubt it will take them three years to clean it up, either.

[Sunny_D]

@Ted

They straight up said the game "runs surprisingly well on PS4 and Xbox One"

https://gamespot1.cbsistati...

That was a big fat lie.

[RgR]

@SunnyD

Maybe they meant the pro and XoneX

[MadLad]

@sunny

You need to reread my post and take it for its actual content.
Comparing a company who sold you an entirely different game, based on misinformation given based on its core mechanics, is a little different than saying here's exactly what we said it would be, but it runs bad.
Neither are acceptable, but comparing an unoptimized, buggy game to a complete lie of a product, in and of itself, is far from comparable.

That was my point.

That doesn't make Cyberpunk not a glitchy mess that still needed to cook, and I never said it didn't.

[Rocketisleague]

Nms still missing it's biggest features tho. Any way regardless, cdpr are just as bad here imo. Nms though was easily worse.

These anti consumee practices make colonial marines look good

[sourOG]

I loved Witcher 3 but I was toward the end of my hundred plus hours before they completely revamped the UI. They changed the game with smart fixes. By the time the ps5 version comes out it will be dope.

It still sucks one of the most “pro consumer” companies around still launched it like that and sold record copies on anticipation alone. You don’t have any “well intentioned” friends in business or government that’s for sure. Live and learn protect your neck.

[outsider1624]

Not just that..but how many people were working in Hello.

CDPR aren't just some small time developers. They're well well known for their Witcher series, the third winning more than 200 awards.

They knew it wasn't ready, be it PC or Consoles but released it anyway.

[LordoftheCritics]

Truth

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[RpgSama]

NMS lied to us all the way till release, but when it was time to review it, people knew all the issues with that game, with Cyberpunk it was actually even worse, they only gave PC copies to reviewers and did not allow them to use footage from the console version on their reviews, knowing full well that only PC reviews would come before release and the unplayable mess that are last gen version of the game only now we are finding about it.

CPR not only straight up lied to their customers, but also tried to hide the state of their game even after the time of release. Disgusting behaviour

[InUrFoxHole]

Yep no excuse for this.

[badz149]

actually it was even worse. the early reviewers weren't allowed to use their own gameplay footage for their reviews, only footage provided and hand-picked by CDPR themselves. so CDPR knew even the PC version was buggy but manipulated the reviewers to garner high scores. most early reviewers sounded the same..."if you're willing to ignore the many bugs still in the game at launch, CP2077 is a great game" which is BS btw and some shameless reviewers even claimed it as the best game there has ever been, masterpiece, setting new standards, unparallelled etc...like WTF?

[RgR]

Comapring this game to NMS is a joke.
The only issue are the bugs. The game itself reviewed great.

And I know a few people with mid powered PC's enjoying this game right now.

[RpgSama]

In current gen consoles it's unplayable and they straight up lied to all of us, because they literally prohibited for people to show the state of the game before release.

[RCslayer]

It reviewed great, yeah 4 out of 10 is great, 2 out of 10 is great, 1 out of 5 is the list goes on. This game is the biggest disappointment in years. CdR knew the game was garbage even on PC and still put it out. My buddy is running it on a cpu he built himself and the game is still garbage. It has been in the works for over 8 years, at this rate they should have released it for the Ps6 and Xbox 1234567 Series ABC by then it might be playable.

[cooperdnizzle]

I have a good pc and it plays like crap and I know it first hand. And my buddy is on a amd rig that is considered better than average and he is having the same problems so try again.

[outsider1624]

Then which game should it be compared to? Days Gone? DG got crapped on for bugs and glitches receiving 6s and 7s. Meanwhile CP2077 is 10/10.

Have you played it? Its just not bugs and glitches.

[Petebloodyonion]

@outsider1624
and the game got a 4 from IGN for the Ps4 version.

[RgR]

@cooperdnizzle

I seriously doubt you have a good pc...or if you do then you must be trying to run the game at max settings.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

LOL what? Thye HID what the game was liike, it looks nothing like what they showed, it is missing the things they said it would have. They hid reviews, and profited, this is every bit as bad, stop defending corporations sucker.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Its not just bugs and glitches, the open world is terrible, all window dressing, zero AI, interactivity, roads are empty, uncercooked, no Role playing like The witcher. This game was a scam.

[badz149]

remember Days Gone? that one Sony game reviewers ducked points majorly for being buggy? the current state of CP2077 is so much worse but didn't stop shill reviewers handing out 10/10 eventhough CDPR had them by the balls in their own review by not allowing console version to be reviewed eventhough it comes out the same day, and not even allowing real time footage to be used, only fottage hand-picked by CDPR themselves to boot. what a freakin joke these shameless reviewers are!

[Godmars290]

Only CD red doesn't have another publisher forcing them to push out their game.

[sagapo]

Yes and no. Cyberpunk has bugs and framerate issues, No Man’s Sky was barely the game it was announced to be by lacking content.

[anast]

At least Joel didn't die. Jk This is a let down. Right before the launch, I was talking with some friends about how cool CDPR was. And they decided to go 16xs the detail on us. It's still downloading so I am going to play it or write a crap article about why I decided to be angry. I haven't decided yet.

[EmperorDalek]

Well at least Cyberpunk can be fixed. You can't fix the trainwreck that is The Last of Us 2.

[potatoseal]

Trainwreck? Ohhhhh, you're talking about the Masterpiece that is The Last Of Us 2. The game that won a bag full of awards. Yeah sorry, that game is the opposite of a trainwreck. Maybe you need to get your head read.

[Sunny_D]

You mean they're going to fix the terrible AI in CyberPunk? How long should we expect it to come?

[oof6781]

Preach that shiz~!

[annoyedgamer]

Thou shalt not speak ill of the master last of us 2 its name is sacred!

[Nyxus]

Nah, it's game of the year.

[RgR]

They could fix it if they do Last of Us content between part 1 and part 2.

But with Neil on the helm...yea this is likely the end of quality storytelling for Naughtydog. Their animation and graphics and voice acting will be top notch. But will likely have progressive lackluster stories to tell.

[hiawa23]

Train wreck? How? For me TLOU2 is the Best GAME OF LAST GEN. GOTY 2020. Amazing game, great story, Love Abby.

[BattleCat]

No problem, cyberpunk will get the trashaward of the year :)

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

@RgR

"But with Neil on the helm...yea this is likely the end of quality storytelling for Naughtydog"

Neil Druckmann was the main writer on The Last Of Us and Uncharted 4 and co-directed both games. If you think TLOU had a good story, then you think that Neil wrote a good story. It's his world (creative director). The Last Of Us and the relationship between Joel and Ellie would never have been what they were without him. Less feelings, more facts: https://thelastofus.fandom....

He was also a writer on Uncharted 1 and more so Uncharted 2 (obvious he was missing for Uncharted 3) and was a co-lead gamer designer on Uncharted 2.

[MadLad]

90% of N4G will say LoU2 is perfection and point to sales, as they ignore the giant amount of YouTube videos with hundreds of thousands of likes picking the game, itself, apart, and the comments section cementing the fact the game's narrative highly fractured the fanbase.

[RauLeCreuset]

Some of you truly deserve more broken releases like this.

BTW, 60.1% completion percentage for the story completion trophy in addition to the sales. Ghost of Tsushima: 48.9%. FF7R: 54.0%. Don't let that deter you from telling us about your YouTube videos. LMAO.

[AsunaYuukiTheFlash]

Cyberjunk is worst than the GOTY 2020 known as The Last of Us 2. Cyberbug has Heinous graphics, uninteresting characters, bland voice acting, terrible AI and gazillion amount of glitches/bugs. I can't believe I'm saying this, Fallout 76 runs better than the abomination that is Cyberjunk 2077.

[SmokinAces]

"Trainwrecks" don't win game of the year awards, get over it.

[OptimusDK]

@potatoseal - game awards are nowadays popularity contests where the one with most sold consoles winn.
Nothing more to it. But on that conosole you do get the best pick - and i was not TLOU2

[Vx_]

aside from the bugs, It has the worst AI and combat that I have ever seen in any game, to fix that they need to recode the entire game. This crap isn't remotely close to well crafted TLoU2 game.

[IMissJimRyan]

It is important for the community to learn from the lesson that, in the end, developers need more than one game to prove themselves worthy of trust. CDPR had a great multiplatform game, released full of bugs and with performance problems, and quickly received the same status from giants like Nintendo, Rockstar, Blizzard or Naughty Dog.

The latter have a long history of quality in launch and support. Something that was given true to CDPR for its "friendly" way with gamers. The result is there. Even the apology should be ready before the game is released.

Now we must press for those who want their money back to receive, who want to wait for it to be served (especially console owners) and put CDPR on the level it deserves. To get to the top of the stairs there is still a lot to prove.

[Seraphim]

except CDPR has released 3 games. And when it comes to open world games like Cyberpunk. If not a complete mess they always at least have their fair share of bugs. Now I don't say that to imply CDPR is off the hook. They should've known better and done better. If that meant pushing console launches back and releasing it on PC so be it.

anyway. why didn't the people who had PC review codes and the big outlets question why there was no console code for review? I'm not in the industry but it seems odd that a multiplatform game like this would have only PC review codes. CDPR are first and foremost a PC developer. They always have been. But why is it that, for instance, IGN, Gamespot, whatever other bigger media places or even mainly console streamers didn't raise more of an alarm regarding there not being console review codes? Maybe it was mentioned but I don't recall ever seeing anyone raise an alarm that there were no console review codes/copies being given out. Right there should be a red flag. We can blame CDPR all we want but that one is something these people and outlets should've realized and dug into some.

[IMissJimRyan]

A really big text to take CDPR out the hook and blame IGN.

[Seraphim]

@ loco. the 3rd sentence I stated "Now I don't say that to imply CDPR is off the hook" and followed that up in sentence 4 and 5 by saying "They should've known better and done better. If that meant pushing console launches back and releasing it on PC so be it."

So no, it's not, as you say, "a big text to take CDPR out the hook and blame IGN." And seriously. An issue should've been raised by the games media industry for not having console review codes. Instead many of them jumped the gun and posted highly praising reviews. Then, for instance, just today [?] IGN finally posts a scathing PS4/XB1 review. And it's not just IGN. I said all media like IGN, Gamespot, etc and even the streamers. It's just funny/odd how not a single soul wants to point out that not only did CDPR drop the ball but so did these media outlets and streamers. They owe it their viewers to get it right. And bells should been rung when PC review codes were all that were available.

[isarai]

Funny thing is i saw this coming a mile away, not that it would be in such a poor state pe lr se, but that it was too ambitious to provide a solid experience on current consoles, especially given how poorly TW3 launched. I made up my mind to wait tof the next gen versions ages ago, if and when it gets to a stable state.

[gravedigger]

Actually TW3 wasn't that poorly. It had framerate issues ( that swamp area was the biggest problem, well around 20s ), but not so bad like C2077, and surely it's wasn't so buggy like 2077. CDPR fixed TW3 pretty fast, but C2077....it's a case study.

[chicken_in_the_corn]

They didn't really have a choice. Imagine the backlash if they delayed it again

[buffig]

That still sounds like a choice

[SullysCigar]

And the better option by far.

[N2NOther]

Yup. They had a choice and they made the wrong one.

[IMissJimRyan]

Well, Zelda BotW was delayed from 2015 to 2017. They only put the game on the shelves when it was done.

Way worse is to charge full price for a early access game.

[IanTH]

I agree CDPR should have delayed it, but I don't think BotW is the same thing.

BotW was a game on a struggling console that Nintendo finally gave up on about the time they pushed the Zelda launch. I'm sure part of that was to add more to the game, but the timing obviously shows us that they did it mainly so that it was available alongside their new console. It was as a shrewd & sensible move, to push their big new Zelda game to help shift units of the Switch.

But also, Nintendo is bonkers rich. They could have Wii U level failures for probably 5 straight console generations and still have money in the bank. They have much less hinging on a single game than a dev like CDPR does.

[Cikatriz_ESP]

Even if they had no choice but to release the game (which is frankly silly), they chose to deceive customers in all the ways highlighted in the above article.

[CS7]

Lol.. Or how about not giving a release date till you can actually deliver a project? :O

Do you have a job? Can you give your boss a deadline for a project completion and then ask for extension after extension without consequence?

It is a sign on incompetence. One or two delays yes. But they were not forced to give an original release date.

[edwardmde]

Simple. Release on PC. Delay the rest.

[JackBNimble]

Imagine the backlash of releasing a broken game .

[Muzikguy]

I'm perfectly fine with waiting. No backlash unless people really don't want quality. Sometimes people need to stop and think about what they're doing and why

[DragonWarrior19]

There wouldn't be any backlash. Would people have been disappointed, sure but nobody would be raging because they need another few months or more. They lied, plain and simple. It was pretty obvious they were hiding something. Very little gameplay shown and when they started getting questions about the game then it was all about Keanu Reeves which also lead to very confusing marketing as it felt at times like he was the main character.

[SmokinAces]

I imagined all the delays were going to prevent stuff like this in the first place.

[VivaLaManual]

They didn't have a choice but to defraud people? Uh...ok...

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Would we way less then this, stop defending this company.

[EmperorDalek]

They were under pressure to release it this year, another reason not to announce games too early.

[Gamist2dot0]

When you let Marketing run the show.

[IanTH]

*Shareholders and senior level executives. They're the ones who will make sacrifices to get their big personal bonuses and paydays. The marketing team ultimately does what they are told.

[phoenixwing]

Runs great on my pc. Unfortunately not everyone has a gaming pc

[RCslayer]

My friend builds his own cpu and it still runs like crap, buggy as hell not nearly as bad as console but yeah.

[Cikatriz_ESP]

Just FYI, CPU stands for central processing unit. No one builds their own CPU.

[njitram2000]

@Cikatriz_ESP Speak for yourself. I personally glued every single transistor in my CPU together =D

@RCslayer Buiding your own PC means nothing. Could be a weak build. I have an Intel i5-9600K and an RTX 2060. I run at 1440p on High settings (Ultra doesn't look very different) with DLSS on and get 60+ fps. That's perfect to me. They build cost about 1000 euro 2 summers ago. So other than the rarity of GPUs right now, it should not take a ridiculous rig to get this game to run nicely. As long as you don't enable RTX.

[lodossrage]

Maybe now people will finally stop treating developers and or companies like gods based off one or two games. Who am I kidding, yeah right, people will never learn.

People were saying how great cyberpunk is/was going to be before they even seen a single screenshot let alone video or gameplay, I'm not goint to go into another long essay on how sheep like gamers have become. I'll just let the evidence speak for itself.

[JEECE]

How did Anthem do after the disappointment of Mass Effect Andromeda?

[Ashunderfire86]

This year with so many death from people due to this horrible crisis and celebrity deaths, Riots and Protest, the recession, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell 2 old Oligarchies who can't pass the damn Stimulus Checks! The Election with 2 of the most horrible candidates to vote for!!! Last of Us 2 leaks, Microsoft disappointing first party showcase of Series X Plus Craig the Brute confirmed a Halo delay, and to end it all for the new year Cyberpunk Gold, but delayed then released into a buggy mess! Yes this year is one big FU to all of us smh!!!!

[esherwood]

Worst of all is trump getting cheated out of the presidency. Now we got some spineless democrats in office

[lodossrage]

How's he getting cheated? He got voted out by the same system that voted him in.

It's his own fault his lawyers have ZERO proof of fraud to the point that even his own appointed judges throw his cases out. Crying foul without PROOF is just crying.

[FunAndGun]

2020 did suck, but the rejection of Chump by voters was redeeming. He lost, it's over, move on.

[Elda]

Damn! You lost me with that one.

[Silly gameAr]

Anyone that supports Trump or believes anything that comes out of his rat mouth must be high.

[Elda]

Tell me about it! I lost a good friend on top of all that you stated & knowing people have lost loved ones as well. Me being here for 50 years I've seen some bad in my time but 2020 has been the worst year that I've seen in my life & I can't wait for 2020 to quickly roll out of here & start 2021. Hoping 2021 is nothing like 2020.

[Ashunderfire86]

It's criminal of me not to mention the scrappers that made it hard to find a PS5 and Series X at launch in this miserable 2020 year that is a big F U to all of us!

[got_dam]

I would say this is more of a lesson about hype than anything. Once the train starts rolling, aint no stopping it. Cdpr should have been honest, should have delayed longer. But also, fans should have been more skeptical considering this is a company that only has 3 games under its belt (5 counting gwent spinoffs).
Go ahead, dislike away.

[esherwood]

Well I’m glad they released it and the three other people I know in real life that got it have nothing but good things to say. All of us on the Xbox one

[cooperdnizzle]

Yeah but you Xbox only fans are used to having crap games, and being told to wait till next year, don’t care you where lied to about cloud, and now most powerful console. So you Xbox only gamers it doesn’t surprise me that you guys like it. But the rest of the gaming world on pc, Nintendo and Sony platforms actually have standards and good taste.

You’re comment sounds just about right for Xbox only kinda dudes. You guys live with your head in the sand anyway. So yeah, you’re not saying much!

[esherwood]

U realize ur not part of some super exclusive club right? Anyone with a couple hundred dollars can buy a PlayStation, kinda wierd to have so much pride in it. If you’re trying to offend me by insulting Xbox I can care less lol

[RauLeCreuset]

@esherwood

Technically, Cooper was saying you're the one who belongs to an exclusive club.

[Elda]

If anyone is an idiot it's you for having your tongue so far up CDPR's ass including vouching for a game that most of the masses are saying that it's a complete mess. The game is loaded with bugs & the frame rate & resolution is horrible let alone npc's are missing among other flaws. The game should have never been released in the state that it's in for last-gen consoles & you're dense for thinking that this is ok including the developer not being honest about it as well. If you had a business you would probably run it the same way by being underhanded,dishonest,sneaky & unprofessional.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

They withheld the console versions and strictly sent out the PC versions knowing those would score 9's in order to get their bonuses.

I mean, it's smart buissness.

[Inverno]

I'm not defending this game, I haven't bought it. There's a lot of things from a business standpoint to factor in into their decision to release the game in the state they did that most won't care to try to understand if they explained it. Let's also just pretend that you all wouldn't be whining and whining about it if it were delayed again. As consumers that buy products we have a lot more of a say but most would rather complain about delays then complain why it still came out broken

[Elda]

If they felt that they had to release the game in the sate that it's in because they didn't want to hear folks whine for having to delay it again then they should have at least been transparent. Telling consumers when they release the console versions on the 10th the game doesn't look or run well & for them to buy at their own risk with updates coming in the future to improve on what they released.

[esherwood]

Oh shut up surfer. I know 3 people in real life playing on Xbox one and none of us are having the problems u idiots are crying about. So it has to be 100% perfect before it’s worth your $60’s lol. These guys have worked on this game for 7 years and have a history of pro consumer policies yet u guys are trying to tear them down as much as possible for any hiccup. Pretty sure they’ve earned a little slack and honestly cyberpunks an awesome game so it blows me u people are so up at arms. It’d be nice to see the good guys get rewarded for taking chances so companies like ea can see what they’re missing out on but I don’t blame them for taking every chance they can to rip people off with how gamers act

[IanTH]

There are a few things we could focus on in there, but the bottom line is we don't benefit from their business choices. There can be 50 solid & sensible reasons to launch it in its broken state for business reasons, but that doesn't make them good for consumers. It's completely irrelevant for anyone other than CEOs and shareholders.

Now, if we didn't have such a strong preorder culture then this would be a problem for them. If they launched the game and it was broken & people chose not to buy it because reviews & early discourse showed it as such, then that's a business issue they'd have to worry about. But the fact they already made back all their development & marketing budget from preorders alone shows that they have nothing to fear. They can make terrible choices for the consumer and face no problems as a business - at least no short term ones.

And I personally wouldn't whine if it were delayed again, as I always wait for reviews (and normally a sale, since it's cheaper & contains many patches). Saying "you all" makes it sounds like you are a CDPR dev or something. Sure, some would complain, but people are complaining regardless now. I don't think CDPR opted to release it because they were afraid of people continuing to whine lol - as you said, it was a business decision.

[esherwood]

Well put, these people would be crying no matter what. They’re whining that the game should have been delayed because of bugs well then why not just wait to buy it? Either way u won’t be playing it now and the people that aren’t looking to be upset can enjoy it

[Godmars290]

And if they hadn't put it out when it wasn't -still- ready, consumers would be complaining just as much.

All the current BS is as much the fault of consumers as it is publishers who overestimate their production schedules.

[boing1]

To be honest, I'm having a blast with the game. Playing on PS5. Crashed few times, I had persistent tutorial pop ups, fell under the map, quest objective didn't change etc. And you know what? I don't mind it that much because underneath there is a real gem of a game. There are business reasons why this game needed to come out, even at this state unfortunately. I actually believe that people behind it, the devs, deserve our full support and benefit of a doubt, because they are super hard working and talented people, that will fix it and throw in the extra on top of that. Talking and promising is cheap, that's what management does. It's easy to fall for it. Look how many devs made the same mistake in the past. Myloneux, anyone? I lol when I read comments from "the experts" here. It seems that everyone would be able to deliver a better product than this, and of this scope. You have no idea what you're talking about, clearly.

[esherwood]

I agree 100%. There’s no other game out there like cyberpunk and u got all the internet losers being overly critical on the game is laughable. I’m playing on Xbox and having a blast and glad developers like cdpr still exist

[ajax17]

they really should have rolled out the pc version first, then the console versions 3~6 months later

[masterfox]

true, I'm sure they didn't even knew it was going to run pretty well on next gen consoles lol.

[Cikatriz_ESP]

From a business standpoint it was a terrible decision as well. CDPR will never garner the same kind of respect (to say the least), and with their image dragged through the mud sales will suffer on every game they release in the foreseeable future. More so than any other developer, gamers were willing to buy their games without question. It’s the kind of clout that can’t be bought. Any company, not just those focused on game development, would have killed for it, and indeed marketing departments everywhere spend millions trying to attain it.

CDPR traded it in for a momentary gain at the expense of the fans who helped them build their empire.

[IanTH]

Unfortunately, the gaming community appears to have a short memory span & a penchant for preordering. The game will get patched, the game will get free content, and the uproar will be quelled. Then we'll have the stage of backlash to the backlash making things even murkier.

Some will think twice about CDPRs next game, surely, but most will be fine after the game becomes stable & enough time passes. Their next game will get announced, hype will build, preorders will be made, the cycle will continue.

Maybe this will be the game that turns it around & makes the average gamer more savvy, but I sadly wouldn't bet on it.

[esherwood]

Well if all it takes for u brats to turn on them is a couple bugs then it would have happened eventually anyway

[goldwyncq]

What's that saying? A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad? Funny how they delayed this game three times with over four years of development and it still came out as crap.

[MocBistro]

I remember them saying the character creation in this game will be phenomenal or sth but in the end it's just a bunch of presets

[Aurora]

Sigh* They really busted a nut with this one 😔

[YodaCracker]

For what it’s worth, I’ve been playing on the Series X and have run into very few bugs for a game of this scope. I did run into a bug that would have prevented me from progressing the story, but thankfully the game is very liberal with autosaves so I only lost a few minutes of progress.

And the game looks damn good in quality mode. I’m constantly in awe of how good the world looks and stopping to take screenshots. This is the most immersive and “alive” open world I’ve ever experienced in a game.

[Tankbusta40]

I got a refund on the Series X...I thought the game looked awful even in quality mode. To each their own but...I think COD Cold War put this game to shame visually

[mudakoshaka]

I have no idea what they are talking about. The game is very enjoyable for me. Sure, there are some bugs. Was able to get 1.3 million in 30 minutes due to a glitch, but hey, I am not complaining. I remember GTA V having a glitch on the PS4 right after release that gave me millions. So just be calm and wait for updates to polish the game, or enjoy Night City with a few bugs.

[neomahi]

This is what happens with overhyped games, when things go wrong and they get can't uphold the hype, they get butchered just like this. The dangers of video game hype.

[gamergamer]

Tell me more about this glitch.

[mudakoshaka]

https://youtu.be/vM9wThz7kJ...

[mudakoshaka]

There you go dude! I was lucky to have not passed this mission, and, I did not have to kill everyone before fighting the boss "Sasquatch". Just quietly killed those in the rooms next to Sasquatch. And when I won over the boss, when they are lying down before finishing them, I started walking towards the cinema/mission, and the combat mode was turned off so I could save the game before finishing off Sasquatch, and repeating the process.

I tried killing all the enemies before Sasquatch, but was killed every time. So had to try another way. Sneak to the van according to the mission, do not get into combat mode, plug into the van, then save, then go upstairs for Sasquatch while taking out the enemies quietly that are outside the room of Sasquatch. She is almost right above the van, so no need to clean the ground floor. There is an elevator shaft almost opposite the van which you can climb and get to the second floor.

[AHall88]

I feel sorry for anyone that's playing it on a base PS4 or Xbox One.
I've been lucky so far on PC, no crashes or major bugs yet and enjoying the hell out of it so far.(37 hours in.)

[1nsomniac]

If you look back in history this is what CDPR do. I made a comment of this a while ago and it’s amazing how easily people forget the past. CDPR has been in deep shit several times. Remember Witcher 3 “100% real console gameplay” e3 reveal - that didn’t turn out to be real gameplay in the end! Then the massive downgrade later.

They will do a pretty good job fixing it tho. That’s how they make people forget and why it takes them so long to release games.

[endzeitkind]

its about those pipelines on console. if sony doesnt want you to use that, the developer let the customers to run sony down for the refund. its easy as that.

[Eviltattoo]

This release taught me a valuable lesson. This will likely be the LAST game I pre-order or pay full price for. With all the delays and promises from CDPR I honestly expected a complete game regardless of the platform. This was rushed out to make Q4 holiday sales and we paid the price.
Lesson learned.

[jonos]

if you rewind a bit and think about that delay rumor which could put the game into 2021, it is clear that it was truth at some point, at least it was discussed internally. They new obviously knew what is the state of the game. Since there would be a massive money decrease if delayed again, the board of directors or whatever they're called, decided not to delay it. They sacrificed they reputation for the money. They lied the gamers on so many levels, one on the biggest lies is that they would release the game when it's ready. It was their moto.

[InUrFoxHole]

Its about time companies are held responsible

[Father__Merrin]

Cdr5p minimum and recommended specs are a joke it just doesn't work

[VivaLaManual]

I love the boot lickers calling this a mistake. No, this was straight up fraud.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

CD projekt were never the good guys they tried to portray, now it is all out there to see how scummy they are.

[Sokol]

Putting all this fiasco behind us I'm pretty sure CDPR next game won't have the same pre order numbers again..

Earning trust is hard work but losing it only takes one lie.

[esherwood]

Games journalist are loving this, easily the best game this year and nothing but negativity