Xbox One's Driver Update To Bring 10% Performance Boost, Devs Were Speechless With PS4 8GB GDDR5 RAM

"NeoGAF member and industry insider thuway is back with more information, especially clarifying the Xbox One driver update mentioned earlier this week. According to thuway, it seems that a 10 percent performance boost should be available at the very least."

[Agent_hitman]

That 8GB GDDR5 inside ps4 is insane. If Developers could max it out, the resolution could go beyond 1080p

[AndroidVageta]

Are you being sarcastic or do you really know nothing about what memory does?

[windblowsagain]

Exactly android.

Ram - textures, game assets.

But GPU Power is the most important thing in any games console or PC.

It's the thing that divides us, that binds us, sorry was into the matrix just then.

Heck you can run BF4 @ 1080p @ medium/high settings at 45-60fps with an ati 6870./

[hellvaguy]

@agent

ps4 can maybe hang with low and then higher 1080p settings down the road. Doutful will ever see ultra settings and zero chance of 4k. Other components like the cpu will cause the bottleneck to prevent 4k from ever happening.

[Agent_hitman]

OH yeah you're right about that. Next gen hardwares have bottleneck that is the CPU and it's clockspeed.

[Eonjay]

Thats why efforts are being made to push more and more CPU related activities onto the GPU.

This may allow for 4k gaming one day. Parallel processing is the future.

[kneon]

Well they could both do 4k games now, as long as they are relatively simple. The problem is that neither box shipped with hdmi 2 so they are limited to 24 fps.

[Death]

By pushing CPU functions to the GPU it will not increase resolution, it's the opposite. It's taking GPU resources away to help the weaker CPU.

[Eonjay]

@Death
I understand what you are saying but thats not how it works. The concept is that there are certain operations that the GPU does that don't utilize the GPU at anywhere near 100%. During execution of these operations, you can have the GPU calculating things such as physics. It doesn't take anything away from the graphics being processed. It merely allows unused resources to be assigned CPU tasks.

[hkgamer]

Not a tech guy at all. But I am guessing devs will concentrate more on using more cores than using more gpu ram.. Not . Tech guy at all and have a few pints down me

[Eonjay]

If I were developing on the Xbox my primary concern would be maximizing the utility of the memory. If I were developing on the PS4 my goal would be to maximizing the utility of the GPU.

Why:
1. Xbox One has to master ESRam to overcome DDR3 bottleneck.
2. PS4 has to master Computer to fully utilize the power of its GPU.

[Beastforlifenoob]

GPU is way, way, way, way more important then the CPU when playing games (99% of the time). Without a proper GPU it doesnt matter how good your CPU is it will lag, even if you had 32 cores running at 8ghz it will still lag if you dont have proper GPU. Infact the reason why SONY threw away conventinal ram out of the window and changed it to unified graphical ram and a lower power cpu they could get far greater FPS.

[Ricegum]

Xbox One playing catch up.

[Gazondaily]

And it will be for the rest of its life-cycle. No amount of optimisation will ever result in it surpassing the PS4, it will only just match it (if that).

[BALLBAGS]

@septic it will never match the ps4,no amount of optimisation can make up for the difference in ram, weaker GPU and CPU.

you have to remember Sony will be optimising the driver's for the ps4 also that's how console cycles work.

regardless Microsoft have a back catalogue that can make up for the weaker hardware, that's all I care about.. the games

[windblowsagain]

Seriously septic, match it?

xboxone will never match PS4, it's just not possible.

There is a very big gulf gpu/ram wise, compute is also much higher on PS4.

That's not saying there isn't or won't be good looking games on xb1.

Both consoles will get better driver wise, and programs that run on them will get better and use less resources.

But I've played all the top titles on PC.

Imo graphics wise.

CRYSIS3,BF3,BF4,KILLZONESF.

As for racing games. PC,DRIVECLUB. Look the best graphically.

[Gazondaily]

@windblowsagain

Yeah what I meant was, a game could potentially run identically on both consoles but this would be owing to the developers not the hardware.

The X1 will never match it, I agree. Sorry for the confusion.

[JodyCones]

The PS4 will always be more powerful on paper. It's games will look better in the long run. And of course they'll both get better. But it's no argument which one is more powerful.

[Death]

Theoretical power is useless. The deciding factor on consoles is always the lowest common denominator. In the long term, only first party games will benefit from any hardware differences. The first wave of software is hardly representative of each systems potential.

Look at the first couple gens of games on the PS3. Not even close to what we seen at the end of the PS3's life cycle. The Xbox One is the more complex system this time around. It has more ground to make up. Both systems will see improvement over the next few years, but the Xbox One has more room to grow since it will take more time to master.

[MorePowerOfGreen]

"weaker CPU" ???

You trolls believe that made up BS LOL. XB1 having a stronger CPU was bugging some PS4 troll so he made up that BS and tried to spread it around. He spun XB1 using more resources due to XB1 doing much more than PS4 at any given time.

Clearly this news/rumor is bugging the sh!t out of PS4 fans. Just enjoy your PS4, dam. Is there games to play or something?

This local spec war is moot, XB1 will be using cloud compute and PS4 will never be able to catch up to XB1.

Now 50% more powerful is fact? Despite devs saying they are basically the same power. One guy lies about resource use of the consoles and suddenly the PS4 CPU is more powerful? LOL

XB1 is a all around more powerful platform, PS4 would crash then melt if it tried to do what XB1 is doing all at once. Boasting GPU capability then claiming the PS4 is more powerful all around because of it is silly.

So sick of hearing about the PS4's gddr5, XB1 has more RAM bandwidth and a better CPU. If Sony has the better(clocked) CPU they would have been boasting about it. PS4's case is too small for things like that.

[Utalkin2me]

@Death

My goodness guy, you're taking the cake today. It took longer for the Ps3 to hit its potential due to it's architecture. Dev's was having a hard time with the cell and how it was designed.

But both X1 and PS4 have x86 architecture so first release of games on both systems is fairly representative of the gap and it will be that way the rest of this generation. Hence why all the multiplatform games are lower resolution on X1.

[MysticStrummer]

@Death

"The deciding factor on consoles is always the lowest common denominator. In the long term, only first party games will benefit from any hardware differences."

…except that multiplats already show a PS4 advantage. Last gen PS3 was more powerful but harder to work with. 360 sold more until nearly the end so there was no real incentive for multiplat devs to utilize the Cell properly.

This gen, the better selling PS4 is both more powerful and easier to develop for. Some devs will no doubt still go for parity though.

[DoesUs]

@Green Ok, step away from the computer and get some fresh air. $100 more for an inferior machine! OUCH! XB1 the more powerful huh? Which titles are you playing? AC4? BF4? COD? just to keep you upto date. I'm afraid yes, devs get more out of the PS4 CPU than the XB1's, they also get around 50% more from the GPU and the superior memory setup has them smiling from ear to ear 8) YOWSERS!!!!!

[iiwii]

Well, even if that's true, still good news for those who decided to buy the MS system. Congrats, because it should have been able to do more than what we have seen so far. Happy gaming.

[bobsmith]

ur paying way more than 100 dollars for ur kinect lol

[Death]

It makes up for that 50% more power that is so hard to see.

[GTgamer]

Yeah because all games are native 1080p on PS4 except BF4 yup that %50 power is soooooo hard to see/s
I bet money Watch dogs Destiny The Division and witcher 3 will be 1080p on the PS4 and some won't on the X1 count on it.

[Hercules189]

In my eyes resolution is just a small part of what makes a game look good. Are they going to take away the realistic lighting system, are they going to take away the smooth textures, if not then 900p or even 720p doesnt bother me really.Which would you say looks better super mario bros at 4K or Ryse at 900p.

[GTgamer]

@hercules
Your comparison makes no sense Mario a cartoon style game next to Ryse a game dedicated to looking realistic :/ also Ryse fps performance is lacking, and I'm all for gameplay over Resolution but were talking about power in a console so when one game runs at 1080p on one console and lower on another console then don't act like you don't see a difference in power.

[lawgone]

Thanks for that intelligent comment @bobsmith.

[FRAKISTAN]

Xbone can never catchup with the PS4's GDDR5 RAM, you guys shold remeber Sony's firmware updates are very very powerful.

Look at the current FW and the original 1.5 of the PS3 and you will know

[KillerByte23]

firmware update's so powerful it has a risk of bricking your console

[Utalkin2me]

Look at MS Track record, all it takes is just play the machine to brick it.

See how silly that is? Two can play that game, so maybe you should chill on trolling.

[PFFT]

Ive never hard a problem with my PS updates. Something tells me those bricked systems were user error and nothing more.

[colonel179]

Since when the resolution became more important than polygon count?

Obviously, it's really great to see a game in very high definition, but when it comes to games, I think it's more important to have more polygons, better textures, etc. Graphics have been improving since PS1 and have become more realistic and allowed for more artistic designs.

The best thing would be to have both great resolution and realistic graphics, but if they tell me that I can have very realistic graphics at 720p or not so great graphics at 1080p, I would choose 720p.

I don't get why people get so excited about 1080p, even for games that are not even graphic heavy like PS2 HD remakes. They do look great, but the advancements in graphics should be considered more important until we can get both.

[BitbyDeath]

Resolution is polygon count, higher resolution = more pixels on screen

[Volkama]

pixels =/= polygons...

[DoctorJones]

BitbyDeath proves he doesn't know what he's talking about, again.

[SegataSanshiro]

Holy crap dude, aren't you embarrassed for the stuff you write? You are so wrong man, you must be like 12

[BitbyDeath]

Polygon is just a wire frame, pixels fill the polygon. Obviously more pixels = better looking polygon.

Therefore Resolution is polygon count.

You should at least explain why you disagree.

[starchild]

Lol so many of you Sony fanboys are truly clueless. No wonder you are always hating on the PC, you don't have a clue about graphics tech.

Polygons in virtually all modern game engines are triangles. Those triangles comprise the wireframe of every object you see on the screen. But the poly count and the pixel count are 100%, entirely independent from each other.

You could have a 15-million polygon scene be rendered at 720x480 or at 1920x1080 and the number of polygons being drawn doesn't change. Obviously the higher resolution example requires more graphics hardware resources, more memory, etc, but not due to the polygon rendering load changing, as it is exactly the same in either case.

[iiorestesii]

Lol. Now that's a self made rocket scientist right there

[iiorestesii]

Dude you make this website worth coming to. Have you ever tried your hand at developing games? Maybe you could teach these developers some of that stuff you know all about. Ahahhahahahha.

[JodyCones]

Dude I understand your point but if any console did have more it would be PS4. It's just no argument! Haha both consoles look great but PS4 is just more powerful, compare their specs and look at the games. No I'm more than happy when a game is 1080p there is certainly a difference. My 720p tv downstairs looks so much worse than my 1080p in my room, the resolution is obvious and I don't know why we're even debating this for next gen games. Yes polygons are just as important but it's no stretch which console succeeds in that, as well as the resolution. It's no argument anymore we know which console is more powerful. Stop making scapegoat's for 720p vs 1080p. 1080p makes images shaper and cleaner with less noise. A Clear picture with better draw distances.

[LeCreuset]

That's a straw man argument you introduced colonel. No one said those things aren't important. In fact, the crowd your comments are aimed at have frequently called out Drive Club for sacrificing important graphical features to get the game to run at 1080p. The point is, you can take a game with the same polygon count, textures, etc., or more and probably run it at a higher resolution on the PS4.

[Sarobi]

Wasn't this 10% apparently locked away for Kinect?. I could of sworn we heard something like this before.

[Volkama]

There is 10% reserved for Kinect. There are plans to free up some of it, or make the reservation less strict.

Whether these rumoured changes relate directly to that reservation is unknown. Could be.

[MightyNoX]

I was about to ask the same question. I think 10 percent gpu is STILL locked because of Kinect and this updates merely improves the OS performance...I think.

[SegataSanshiro]

What is "could of"

[ElementX]

They originally increased the power by 10% and this will increase it by another 10%? So it's a 20% increase since pre-launch?

[ElementX]

Nevermind, I guess it was a 6.6% increase in GPU clock speed before and 10% of the GPU power was being withheld.

[ElementX]

I guess it was 10% increase before launch for the CPU.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

This article said 6% for the GPU clock speed

http://www.gamechup.com/mic...

I was confused for a minute there because I read two different numbers.

Here's the 10% GPU withheld for Kinect

http://www.nowgamer.com/new...

[imt558]

Well, it's not a true 10% boost in perfomance like before. Now developers have access to that 10% GPU power which is reserved for Kinect.

[jden28]

The article never said that the developers were getting what was reserved for kinect what it said was that there would be a driver update that would give a 10% boost at minimum....I feel like I'm playing telephone on hear...10% minimum boost meaning it could be more...tells you right there there that its not coming from what was reserved for kinect because that was a flat 10%

[christocolus]

Lets see if this turns out true cos i believe more power will help the devs out in other areas outside game resolution(couldnt care less about that just as long as the games are fun and play good). I read an article earlier about ms releasing a routine update that would add more functionality and speed to the console in general and sort out issues which most xbx owners complained about(dont know if both updates are one and the same).

Also i still dont believe in cboat and the likes.alot of claims turned out false regarding the console so what ever they say should be taken with a grain of salt but however im very glad ffxv is also coming out on the xbx one too.i enjoyed VII and X very much,played XIII to a point then gave it up. XIVs fight scenes look very interesting they remind me so much of the fight scenes in advent children will definitly try it out.

[limewax]

Sorry but you seem to misunderstand. Every internet connected device in the world is updated in th same manner, you can't download secret sauce its just the way the tech world works.

[christocolus]

Dude...Whats this secret sauce? I dont get it. I never stated it and its irrelevant to my comment. My comment was more in line with the comments which cdprojekt and avalanche have made in the past.(over the life of xbx consoles,ms has always released driver updates that open up the hardware even more to devs and this gives them more access and flexibility to harness the power of the console even more). Infinity ward also claimed that ms would release more of the gpu power to devs over time via updates. So what does this have to do with secret sauce dude?

[Orange Juice]

My guess is that both consoles have a little bit of reserved power to be unlocked a few years down the road like with the ps3s spus, only Ms was forced to open theirs up to its full potential way way earlier than expected. This is awesome news for xbox fans, it means that ms is doing whatever they can to equal the ps4. unfortunately they would have to unlock a bigger gpu for that to happen.

[Kingoftherodeo]

is psn still down must be the psn guys got here first

[Orange Juice]

Not that you would know this but you can switch from game to browser within 2 seconds on the ps4, one second of you double tap the ps button. Im actually loading in to a bf4 game as i type this. Maybe thats how ps fans manage to post and game at the same time, but what would I know.

[hadouken007]

Bubble for that comment.

[GTgamer]

@orangejuice I do the same thing especially when Im playing blacklight hop out and hop back in its awesome and PSN is still up for me.

[fanboybeatdown]

Lol @ Kingoftherodeo

I was thinking the same thing.
So many scared ps4 fanboys in here.

I heard PSN was back up.
I guess now they can go back to the games.
oh wait.

[Fishy Fingers]

If they can boost the clock speeds that's great, every little helps.

[RiPPn]

It needs it, when I load up Peggle 2 and the opening animation fmv is choppy, you know something is not quite right.

[Unspoken]

You mean the developers of Peggle need to fix their program? You might be on to something...

[TIER1xWOLFPACKx]

If true your looking at about a 3-6fps gain from a 10% boost if you look at the performance of the current x1 games they range at 30-60fps this may allow them to up the resolution slightly if they want to lose those 3-6fps. I'm getting this 3-6fps by dividing the current x1 games fps by 10. Also to anyone commenting saying they need upclock the gpu cpu it's not possible as every component within the console is set to run with its current specs in mind changing the clocks could cause over heating etc. Overall this 10% boost is going to make next to no difference it's not going to allow for more eye candy it will literally minor FPS boosts and it will still be very far behind the performance of the ps4

[mhunterjr]

That's not how it works at all... Nice try though.

[ElementX]

A boost in performance doesn't mean the same percentage boost in fps.

[frostypants]

Right. It generally means a lower percentage boost in FPS, all things being equal.

[mhunterjr]

It isn't uncommon for firmware updates to boost performance by eliminating inefficiencies, but a 10% gain is pretty substantial. If true, it would lend credence to the notion that Microsoft was late getting drivers finalized, and they are just now getting to where they would have liked to have been at launch.

[TristanPR77]

10% supposed boost performance under the same weak hardware. Funny how some people believe this is a magic update that will give the xbone an advantage over the PS4 Jejeje.

[mhunterjr]

Where did anyone say that this would give the Xbox one an advantage over the ps4?

I think people just believe that their console will perform better...

[Mr_Luke]

M$ attempt to catch the PS4 power with a driver update. Uhm.... oh well, it's a long way to go dear M$. But who said that people can't dream?

[Mister_Dawg]

The article was a good report of the 10% boost for the XB1.

But why did he feel the need to give the PS4 a 'boost' too with the remarks about 8GB of GDDR? PS4 has nothing to do with the XB1 getting a driver update.

[sebzhd]

poor pro M$, after cloud, secret chip, here is secret driver. Very funny, again.

[Mister_Dawg]

Secret driver?

I game on pc and some of the biggest performance boosts don't come from more powerful hardware, but from optimised drivers.

There's a bridge somewhere near in need of a troll.

[fendernow]

Look at the hate when something good happens to XBOX One! WOW. XBox One has untapped potential and people throw a shit storm when a bit of that power is discovered. RELAX. The world is not ending because XBox One is more powerful than one thought.

And people were mocking the Cloud when there lab tests for the PC market showing how Cloud can be utilized in that arena. Imagine when utilized for the home video game console.

Utterly amazing how people react to positive XBox One news.

[Dehnus]

So rather then have MS fanboys going:"Ooh that might give me a nicer game!" (Not really but these days that's all Ponies and Bots seem to care about), the thread is filled with SOny fanboys being arses.

Jup...to quote Southpark:"AAAAND GONE!".

[NeloAnjelo]

It certainly needs it, and will offset that needed by Kinect.

Why wasn't it launched with all the possible power? Could this cause any hardware issues down the line?

Legit questions I think

[True_Samurai]

Doesn't matter to me that ps4 is more powerful. I'll be too busy enjoying QB, TF, SOD, H5, Witcher 3, and the Division and many more to come :-D

[bigboss1990]

PlayStation is better than Xbox one PlayStation is 44magnum and Xbox is 9mm lol that's a good way to spell it out lol

[OC_MurphysLaw]

For the record thats a horrible reference. 44magnum is more powerful but not better. 9mm handguns are the preferred choice over that for most law enforcement because of better ease of use and reliability.

[starchild]

And either one can easily kill a person.

Look, the point is, both PS4 and XB1 are far weaker than my PC and the gulf is going to increase dramatically when I upgrade my GPU later this year after the new generation of cards come out.

Nobody should by a console under the illusion that it is offering cutting edge graphics and fidelity. People buy consoles because they are relatively affordable (especially the up-front cost) and because there are enjoyable games to play on them.

Both a 44 magnum and a 9mm can easily kill a person, just as both the PS4 and XB1 can provide for enjoyable gaming.

[hellvaguy]

So could a .22 or a sharp stick to the eye. Whats your point?

[zerog]

Then you better pop a couple titans in that pc because it will always take a lot more power in a pc to = a console. Sure if you throw enough money at a pc it can blow past consoles but show me one pc that has the same specs as a ps3 or 360 that could pull of any of their AAA 1st party games from 2013. Simply put it can't be done. These new consoles have way more power then their predecessors and wait and see if they don't blow away any $2500 gaming rig you can buy today within the next 3 years.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Performance increases are a good thing. Not sure why so many have their panties in a bunch.

[lawgone]

Because it's a positive story about the Xbox One. Sony fanboys can't let that happen without commenting. They're a very insecure bunch.

[imt558]

There is no perfomance increase like Xbone's GPU 1.34 TFLOPS + 10% ( 0.134 GFLOPS ) = 1.47 TF. It is driver for unlocking the 10% GPU power which is reserved for Kinect. So, before drivers there was a 1.2 TF for game development, now is 1.34 TF.

[Mister_Dawg]

So what happens when you want/need to use the Kinect?

No my friend. This is a driver optimisation. PC users know a lot about these.

[Cueil]

I'm so so so very tired of this guy and all the rest of the morons at neogaf

[frostypants]

Why? There's a hell of a lot more credibility at Neogaf than on N4G. 75% of the posters here wouldn't even be allowed to keep an account on Neogaf.

[Cueil]

that doesn't make them any more credible... this guy... goes buy Doc Gamer on STFUandPlay if I'm not mistaken isn't in the industry and his contacts are mostly indie devs... so third hand info... not saying it's all bad, but he's mostly not impressed me with his insider info

[thexmanone]

Why do people bring up about the PS4, when every we here good news about the Xbox One.

[LeCreuset]

Because they're competing products which launched at essentially the same time? You can't ignore the pink elephant in the room. At the end of the day a performance boost is nice, but there's still this other system that outperforms it for $100 less.

[nepatriots]

It really does need a update I'm a die hard Xbox 360 fan for 8 years I used it! Never had a ps3! My Xbox one doesn't even get touched so far I play all cross platform games on my ps4 it's faster installing games it has better resolution and it seems to respond better I don't like the new xbone controller not comfortable in my huge hands the dualshock 4 is spot on! Hopefully the xbone will get better in time for now it collects dust!

[MajorMayhem70]

Your not saying much. My PS4 is the console collecting dust. I can count on one hand the amount of time I've used it since I've gotten my X1, which was a week later and I bought both on their launch day. I'm just waiting for the PS4 exclusives and better PSPLUS games. I do check back from time to time to see if anything new is in, then I turn it of and say "Xbox On". Not trying to bash PS4 cause I know it's a great system, I'm just more impressed by the Xbox One UI. They both play games, but to all those that actually think the PS Eye 4 is the same as the new Kinect obviously don't have both consoles, cause it's not. Sony knows it and pulled it from being bundled. I don't blame them cause the Kinect is leaps n bounds.
And oh, I owned both the 360 and the PS3. My PS3 was the console that got the most usage, so I'm not biased by no means. Just stating how I view both consoles at the moment.

[SegataSanshiro]

"Your not saying much" is English your first language?

[MajorMayhem70]

Yeah. Is it yours? I was replying to what someone had said (the comment right above mine). I get the feeling it was what I said and not how I said it that was more of a problem for you. Step up, be a man or a woman and say that. But don't try and belittle me on my English. This a video game comment section for Christ sake, not a thesis on human behavior.

You're an ass. Is that better?

[Sky Lazarus]

Unlock that secret sauce MS! Bacon strips and bacon strips.....

[BcozoftheImplication]

Plus with the power of the cloud the xbone will be unstoppable!! LOL

[Duke19]

Its clear that both systems from launch still have a long way to go with optimizations, grats to M$ for getting a nice patch out pretty quickly.

[Thunderhawkxbox]

I do love it when people saying they were Xbox 360
Die hard fan now they got ps4 it's just a pure BS from Sony fan boys trying to make it looks like Sony stealing Xbox fans lol please do get a life

[LeCreuset]

PS4 is leading in the US and UK, two of MS's biggest territories last gen. Numbers don't lie. You need to back up your argument with something more than the "Sony fanboyz have taken overs the internetz" conspiracies.

[JeffGUNZ]

Actually the xbox one is selling at a faster rate in the US then Sony. Let's not forget the PS4 sold a week earlier, so when you calculate the differences, you see it's selling at a faster rate. Doesn't change the fact of what the person said above you. This site is flooded with trolls and psn fanboys that pretending your an old 360 owner is very common.

[urwifeminder]

Something has gone on don't know if was Turn 10 or MS but Forza is performing better for me a lot smoother I have been complaining about slight lag into certain corner's in car view just played today and its gone not sure what happened lol very happy though even replays seem better.

[Nocando]

They arent specifically saying it's the 10% reserved for Kinect, so I don't know why some of you are jumping to this conclusion.

[Azzanation]

For the idiots who still say the PS4 is more powerful then XB1. Stop being dumb. Its 50% faster not powerful.

http://twthereddragon.com/p...

[quenomamen]

Still makes it 50% more faster meaning it can pump out 50% more pixels on screen. For $100 less. This is a negative thing ??

[NightWatch]

More bullshit from the neogaf agenda machine.

[quenomamen]

You dopes, the X1 didn't just magically get 10% better hardware, that has always been the same. This just means they freed up 10% more from the OS, Kinect, UI whatever.

To put it in car terms the PS4 has a 400 HP engine the X1 has a 250 HP engine. The X1 didn't just get a 260 HP engine, they just made it get 13 MPG instead of 10 MPG when it was made. It's now more efficient not more powerful. COD Ghosts still only runs at 720p. The hardware does not change, only how good it works.

[fullmetal297]

Maybe the update made the OS more efficient and its uses less RAM and GPU resources. Remember when original PS3 XMB used 128mb of RAM, then Sony later cut it down to only 48mb.

[Ragenpsycho30]

wouldn't this mean titanfall will be 900p 60fps?

[mediate-this]

I understand there are people on this site the genuinely know what they are talking about, but its so blatently obvious the ones who know jack shiz about nothing, they literally pulled their info off google. It's annoying and embarrassing, ps4 is more powerful who cares, xbox one is still a great system.

Its the games that count, xbox one has way better launch games atm, havent played my ps4 since i got my xbox-one, mainly due to killer instinct. Just saying the fun factor is why inplay games. Not 50% that translates to god knows what. A person who frequents this site and jabbers on about developing tools is annoying. I understand there are people who do know some stuff, but the 90% of the frauds out there just chill out.

[Shakengandulf]

You're absolutely right mate, although some of these comments make for good reading.

And for those mature poeple, don't click the link and read those comments, your head will explode from the dumbness.

[solidboss07]

Every Little Helps.

I thought that motto was for MS Marks and Spencers?
But actually it is for MS MicroSoft?

[1nsomniac]

Some of the user comments on that website are beyond stupid!!

[KevinCubes]

*GOES INTO BASEMENT*
*GETS THE CHOPPA*

[Shakengandulf]

"Get to the choppa!!"

[Villain528]

I just play games. I'm a Gamer. Not a Fanboy

[shadyiswin]

you guys are so upset the xbox one may gain more power,you should already be mad no one can tell the consoles apart graphically lol apart from sites like neogaph ripping things down to microscopic close ups,no one can tell the diffrence in anything, what people do see is that ryse is the best looking game followed by forza 5,not bad for such a weak console.

[Villain528]

So there is no scenario where BOTH consoles are good?

[Villain528]

Why would a person be mad a console MAY gain more power?

[Incipio]

BLAH BLAH BLAH

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

N4G should disable commenting, because it ruins this site.

Especially from the insecure fans.

[donnieboy]

Well this is expected...I heard early talks about allocating the reserved power from the kinect to the system but still high hopes....I love Assassins Creed 4 on the Xbox One!

[notyobizhwispndmymny]

Xbox One owners should be used to this by now. Negative news about Xbox One = Great big feast. Positive news about Xbox One = Great big dump, almost every Ps4 owner becomes an expert in computing calculations and every person that likes an Xbox One or believes in their vision is trolling or stupid.

[kingPoS]

That's why consoles like PS4 & Xbox One are flexible. Fine tune the OS of single platform till it shines. Anyone remembered how the OS performed with the 360 & PS3 back in 2006? What couldn't the PS3 & 360 of 06 do?

Could they play The Last of US or Halo 4 without an firmware update?

Gateway MT6706 2008

[Codey47]

I'm a Sony fanboy......even I'm getting sick of this shit.

[Kingoftherodeo]

xbox could argue the cloud doesn't go down or get hacked

[Gamerita]

the best driver they can come up is just as good as the hardware it's on, the power gap between PS4 & xbone will always & for ever remains the same.

[parentsbasement]

Ok, its settled...the PSbore is now and will forever be more powerful and better than the X1 in EVERY way conceivable......so why dont you guys just go play the damn thing for a while and let the X1 people wallow in their sorry....in peace !!!! ....for cripes sake......

[ziggurcat]

It's going to be a sticky mess over at the misterx delusioblog when they catch wind of this...

[Rhythmattic]

I tell ya, There are some severe PS/MS Fanboys out there, but nothing, and i mean nothing compares with the Misterx blog..

If no ones checked it out, I suggest you do , its absolute comedy gold.....

[corvusmd]

Any performance boost is awesome, improvements in drivers will constantly help developers, and the 10% boost is probably just only part of the improvements, who knows? Either way, I know there are jokes on here about it, but yes when cloud-computing takes off, even the smallest help will be noticeable at that point. I know lots of PS fanboys wish to say that PS4 is 50% more powerful, but that's an empty stat as it doesn't actually translate onto the screen that way...at this rate PS4 won't be able to claim any tangible power advantage at all anytime soon. NOW is when you should see the biggest difference, while Devs are getting used to using the esRam. There is no mystery to the PS4 insides. Both systems will grow, but I forsee XB1 making a bigger jump. The better games lineup is in the XB1 favor(IMO) and having the much better network and OS and controller is a HUGE plus. It's starting to look like there is absolutely no reason to get a PS4 at all. I was thinking of grabbing one to play SP exclusives at one point when they stack some up, but the way it's looking, XB1 will keep me busy enough that I may never get a PS4 and this will be the first time I don't get a PS.

What I don't get is why Devs were shocked that PS4 went from 4gb to 8gbs was mentioned....That news is about 10 months old now..why is it that whenever there is a pro-xb1 article...there has to be some random PS4 news even if it doesn't apply at all?

[SgtMajTomahawk]

What's really ironic to me is I came to this site thinking I could get some info on Xbox One and under the Xbox One tab all I see is PS4 fanboys trashing and lieing about the specs on the Xbox One. I mean seriously does Sony hand out free wallet credits through Plus to you guys based on how often you crap on the Xbox? What do you care if someone is enjoying an Xbox One?
You have the console you like so why bother to come into an Xbox One section and trash the XB1 on every single topic???

And the people writing the articles are just as bad. I haven't seen one article on this web site in the Xbox One section that's even remotely pro Xbox. The whole site has jumped in hook line and sinker on the PS bandwagon and that's what they are pushing.

It's just stupid!

All I know is I turn on my Xbox and if I want to watch TV I watch TV, if I want to play a game I play a game and it looks and runs great, if I want to watch a movie I can do that streaming from my PC. The last thing on my mind is "Oh I wonder what those PS4 guy are doing?"

NOBODY GIVES A SH*T!

Play you games and leave everyone else alone. Yes you have GDDR5 ram, congrats you have reached the peak of console gaming enjoy.

What tools.

[Rhythmattic]

SgtMajTomahawk

If you where here in 2007 , nothing has changed.... Its just this time the shoes on the other foot...

What I miss is the Openzone. It needs to re-instated...

There was always Fanboy behaviour in the OZ section , trolls and tears, but in the Gaming section, it was an open , mature banter between gamers, no matter what their preference.

I beg you N4G, bring back the Openzone.

Who's with me?

[parentsbasement]

I don't even know what it is but im with you.....

[Skankinruby]

Google some dated forums from last gen, specifically 2007-2009. Briefly observe the arrogance of Xbox fanboys blabbering about ps3 having no games or saying they dont need blu ray. Get a little taste of the empty insults that all those drones would throw at ps3 fans but then could never respond when asked to list these so called 'better games'. Now that the dust finally settled, now that people have realized 360 had very little in the way of exclusives and used online multiplayer as a sole selling point, and that the Wii was just a child's toy that sold as good as it did because of the low price tag. Now that the products are speaking for themselves and sales numbers are reflecting that all the Microsoft fanboys have their foot in their mouth Sony loyalists have the right to gloat for awhile

[ziggurcat]

Oh dear... Misterx is claiming a 50% increase in power... The delusion, it burns.