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Microsoft Could Be in Trouble, Still No FCC Approval for Xbox One

While Microsoft tries to rebut supply chain and manufacturing issues as results for a delayed Xbox One release, another possible problem has come to light. Where is the FCC Approval for the Xbox One?

Without FCC approval, a manufacturer is not able to market and sell their products in the United States. If the FCC finds any problems with the Xbox One and requests for Microsoft to change or adjust entities within the console itself, there would be a disastrous impact on supply. Needless to say, that if there is a major issue, components may need to be sourced from different manufactures causing further constraints on the supply for the console.

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EDIT: Please be aware that this article is based off of information that has yet to be released by the FCC and/or Microsoft. The sole purpose of this article is to discuss the following issues: (1) If the console has yet to pass through the FCC it may be a sign showing that the console has yet to be finalized. (2) If the console does go through the FCC later than sooner, Microsoft will have less time to react IF there are any problems.

EDIT 2: News has surfaced that Albert Penello, Microsoft Director of Product Planning, seemingly confirmed that the Xbox One received FCC approval early in the summer. However, this was posted on a forum and is not credible regardless of its origin. We will update the story if an official release from Microsoft or the FCC is released.

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The_Infected1067d ago

Well they need to let us know what is going on if the Xbox One is delayed I'll cancel my pre order and get a PS4. Yes I hate waiting! Lol

maxkoe1066d ago

Completely agree. If there is a problem with the system I would like to know.

Enough of the marketing mumbo jumbo.

NewMonday1066d ago

don't think the XB1 will have any issue with the FCC, it not like it's the first device MS are ever selling, they would know what they need to do.

XB1_PS41066d ago

The thing I'm wondering about is WHY is it taking so long?

Is there some sort of issue that is making this process harder for the FCC?

If so, will the problem end up at my house?

Hope not.

JokesOnYou1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

"In this case, we are being fully transparent. And FYI – we passed FCC certification back in early summer, before PS4."
-Albert Penello
MS Director of Product Planning
http://m.neogaf.com/showpos...

lol @ disagrees please share proof otherwise.

falviousuk1066d ago

@jokes i dont know why you even bothered putting that up, no one on here is going to see it, read it or believe it. They are blind to it. They will just continue to spout the same line that it hasnt passed FCC so its in trouble.

And finally when its glaringly obvious they will move onto something else to complain about when it comes to the xbox one. Thats what they do on here, all day, every day. One would thing they must be share holders in a certain company to try and make it appear that the xbox one is a complete failure before either console has even went on sale.

DragonKnight1066d ago

@Jokes: If this was official, why is it only on NeoGAF?

JokesOnYou1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

lol, Dragonknight So show me news on wii u passing FCC? Maybe I missed it. I'll wait...

At any rate you guys put waaaay too much stock in FCC which is pretty easy to pass, its not a quality check or how ready you are for production measure. They simply make sure it complies with govt protocols so theres no intereference or comm problems and has basic safety standards that a jr high science project could pass. lol, this is classic "sony reported it so OMG micro is hiding something" as if a fcc notice is the be all end of a products quality...if so how could we see RROD problems and on a lesser level the YLOD problems? I dont understand how it makes sense that they are still launching in November but the console cant pass FCC, you'd think in that case they would have announced a worldwide delay instead of just delaying in small markets that account for a few million sales total over the entire last gen. Logic.

trafalger1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

dragonknight,
"@Jokes: If this was official, why is it only on NeoGAF?"

let the witch-hunt begin. if there is any conspiracies or rumors floating that could negatively affect the xbone this guy is on it.

albert penello has been certified on neogaf as being an employee for m$. he has been on the site for awhile helping to explain things. then again we have dragonknight who has a masters degree on xbone cloud servers and spends his days here blasting m$ and the xbox consoles.

so of course his main concern is if the xbone passes fcc or if there is problems going on in manufacturing. he obviously doesn't want to wait to get his hands on the system!

Narutone661066d ago

To put this matter to rest, why don't MS or anyone who knows anything regarding the FCC documents, post link to that documents. Regarding the Wii U, no one is inquiring about their FCC documents. But in XB1's case, it is generating a lot of controversy.

DragonKnight1066d ago

@Jokes: So rather than answer the question or touch on the point of NeoGAF's inclusion, you divert the subject towards the Wii U. Let me ask you, why would you do that hmm?

trafalger1066d ago

"Regarding the Wii U, no one is inquiring about their FCC documents. But in XB1's case, it is generating a lot of controversy."

so how many people here care because it could affect there pre-orders of the xbone?

boldstarr1066d ago

yeah its m$, not so surprice... all they want is your money... they will sell a defective product... like the 360 and the buggy window os

JokesOnYou1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

"@Jokes: If this was official, why is it only on NeoGAF?"

huh? smh, because theres no protocol, standard, formality or whatever you want to call it to say in some official press release "Hey look at us we just passed fcc." lol, its expected thing and very easy to do, hardly something you have to announce. I mean have you guys have seen the variety of electronics that pass fcc right?, I'm no business guru but I know a bit from work that I do and its funny watching folks who really don't understand what they are talking about act as if they found a smoking gun.

The wii-u reference is completely revalent as it was the 1st console to start this generation of gaming, yet with no news about it passing FCC its out now for all to enjoy....in other words FCC announcement has never been a big deal, the only reason you guys are trying your hardest to make it a big deal is because you want to spread misinformation about xbox one's production/supply/status/sugge st problems with no evidence to back up such claims. It's transparent and foolish to think micro has to respond to every silly rumor officially or by following everything sony does just to please sonyfanboys. Unless MICROSOFT says there is a delay beyond November and I see nothing to suggest they will, I know that I will be picking up my console sometime in November. I assume they will announce the EXACT date soon in some public event/show= PR. PAX perhaps? Rumors and FUD don't change anything.

DragonKnight1066d ago

@Jokes: "huh? smh, because theres no protocol..."

So? It's frickin' NeoGAF, not anything close to an official source. So let me get this straight, when NeoGAF were reporting all the leaks about the XB1, then "it's just NeoGAF," but when something like this comes up then NeoGAF is a trusted source? GTFO with that hypocrisy.

"I mean have you guys have seen the variety of electronics that pass fcc right?"

Irrelevant. You can't sell consumer electronics in the U.S. without first passing the FCC and that's what the important part is.

"The wii-u reference is completely revalent..."

No it's not. No one is talking about the Wii U. You only brought it up to divert the conversation away from the Xbox One. To make it perfectly clear, the whole discussion is irrelevant. Who gives a damn if the Xbox One hasn't passed through the FCC yet? The frickin' Xbox 360 passed with the RROD so unless the Xbox One has something worse, then we can pretty much guarantee that the the XB1 will pass.

But don't try to pawn off the situation on the Wii U or use a stupid forum site as an official source of confirmation because the Wii U isn't relevant to anything and NeoGAF is not Microsoft.

People are using this FCC situation as a point of discussion as to why Microsoft haven't yet announced a launch date, and how there were rumours about them being months behind on production. But in the end it is completely pointless because the FCC thing is merely a formality right now.

miyamoto1066d ago

yup just make a damn official announcement....
i hope M$ feel the pressure

KazHiraiFTW1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

Wait...so the Xbox One hasn't gotten approval from Farm Credit Canada? Why would MS give a shit about that?

trafalger1066d ago

http://www.videogamer.com/n...

stay tuned here on n4g as sony fans look to scour the earth for more 'nerve' wracking witch-hunts to try and dampen the launch of the xbone.

PlayStation_41066d ago

that guy on the forum said "There never has been any sort of yield or performance issues with our GPU/ESRAM/KINECT/ETC"

and yet M$ themselves said that there was yield issues with the kinect... something is off here

nukeitall1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

n4g is so biased it isn't funny.

Even the updated text is slanted. Just look at all the people that are mods or have many bubbles. All biased Sony fangirls.

Facts:

* MS increases specs
* FCC certification passed before Sony by MS

@DragonKnight:

We all know you and your biased views. Nobody announces FCC certification, even Sony doesn't do that.

Do you think MS issues a massive production without making sure their product is legal to sell?

Even idiots don't question that, other than retarded fangirls.

DragonKnight1066d ago

@nukeitall: The irony of your comment is astounding. And the fact that you believe Big Green's hype man even moreso.

As I stated earlier, just because something hasn't yet passed through the FCC, doesn't mean you don't prepare for the possibility that it will. Plus, the console isn't only being released in the U.S. so why halt production for the other territories? Seriously, your Big Green fanboyism is making you incapable of seeing common sense facts in front of your face.

But the stealth troll that you and the other 2 are should make anyone unsurprised by that fact.

trafalger1065d ago

"But the stealth troll that you and the other 2 are should make anyone unsurprised by that fact."

thats hilarious. a well known sony shill in yet another xbone topic calling others stealth trolls.

the mods should make it so haters of m$ not even be allowed in the same room yet alone talk in m$/xbox topics. same goes for nintendo haters who shouldn't be allowed to even look at the comments let alone make one. same with sony/playstation haters shouldn't be able to converse or even read comments in those topics. i'm not talking about having a few negative comments here and there. i'm talking about those who seem to do this for a living, day in and day out with nothing good to say and with the most biased and objective views. either that or tag each member with a symbol next to them that states they are a fanboy of whichever company and/or a hater of another. just like what they are going to do with xbox live gamers who don't seem to get along or want to play nice online. they too will be forced to play with like-minded folks while the general population doesn't have to put up with there antics.

this is why these seasoned critics hate it when you dig deep into there history comments. they don't like things out in the open that makes it easy to see who we are dealing with.

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-Foxtrot1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

"if the Xbox One is delayed I'll cancel my pre order and get a PS4. Yes I hate waiting! Lol"

That line there makes me think thats what MS is scared of

Probably the reason why they aren't announcing it yet...IF there IS a problem

Tony-A1066d ago

I would say that it probably has something to do with the fact that the XBO is heavy on the TV side of things and so maybe the FCC is double-checking the guidelines that go into it but that can't be it.

Oh well. They should probably get on that.

Cueil1066d ago

approval and denails are released to the public so you'd know if their was a problem... MS may not even have submitted the final package... software is also an important function and they also have to get FCC approval for the Camera and likely a little harder test due to ir blasting ability... don't get worked up is what I say

Funantic11066d ago

@Foxtrot There's no delay. Just rumors.

voodoogts1066d ago

Its like me saying M$ is starting to hog all the damn exclusive and time DLC content. COD, BF4, Watch dogs, Fifa, NFL, and The Division. Where is the love for PS4! I don't want to wait for months for these content. Lol

hqgamez1066d ago

Sony is the one with the exclusive stuff for watch dogs, same goes for AC4.
they can keep that cod crap.

Tctczach1066d ago

Ms also has the division dlc locked up which is one of my most hyped games for next gen

hqgamez1066d ago

The divison dlc. what? some extra weapons, and etc. not much to expect from an online only game.

Brix901066d ago

@Tctczach

It's an open world game all there gona give is probably some useful customizations or something along those lines. It's like Watch Dogs getting exclusive content for PS4 just some minor things nothing that would truly give the edge over the other.

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JoGam1066d ago

um you'll be waiting regardless. Ps4 is coming out first anyway.

Psn8001066d ago

I feel sorry for everyone who ordered an Xbox one if this is true because after all were all gamers & in the same boat .

2cents1066d ago

This article and it's wrtier are doing nothing but trying to damage the Xobx's image. The whole thing is based of speculation and rumor.

A totally fear-mongering piece meant to rattle fanboys cages.

Don't bite

PSVita1066d ago

To be fair, the way MS has gone about the XB1 it does seem like they're having some problems. All the changed policies, a delayed reveal, cutting countries and no release date yet...there's something wrong.

2cents1066d ago

There is NOTHING fair about this childish fanboyism

PSVita1066d ago

Disregarding people's legitimate concerns as "childish fanboyism" is childish.

2cents1066d ago

'Could be'

'another possible problem'

'we may see'

'please note that this is all just speculation'

Just afew quotes from the article, legitimate concerns?
Don't make me laugh.

Just continue your passive aggressive hate on ms masked with selective stupidity when it comes to 'questioning' every bloody thing about the games console that isnt even out yet.

Legitimise your concers when you actually have the option to buy said console.

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Mounce1066d ago

That's the one thing I kept in my mind constantly with all the Nov 8th rumors that flew around of recent. The FCC hasn't even arrived and everyones already spreading rumors about the release date, it's kinda silly. X1 isn't finalized/Gold or even permitted to be sold yet :l

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Stuntz1066d ago

There is nothing wrong with the console, this is a RUMOR site.. do you really think they would of allowed people to play on the X1 if most of it was not completed. They had dozens of consoles available at gamescom that people were fully using. They are obviously still working on making the OS the best it can be. It would not surprise me if Microsft has not even submitted the console yet to get approved. Man these sites really need to stop with this stuff.

jackanderson19851066d ago

just throwing it out there... FCC approval isn't needed for the console to be operated in Europe, so while it could technically fail the FCC approval list they could still launch it in Europe

HammadTheBeast1066d ago

I'm fairly sure they need it to be approved by some board or other for sale in EU regions.

However, they could just manufacture the consoles in poorer countries or China, and then ship them to US/EU once they've been approved, but if the FCC/EU Board finds an error, GG , cause none of the previously manufactured consoles will be able to be sold.

Thehyph1066d ago

@Hammad
They are made in China anyway. You've confused me.

Both Sony and Microsoft have probably been producing their systems before approval. Their respective QA departments need only slap a sticker on the device and it's good to go. FCC approval is really only a registration with the government on how the device communicates. Highly doubt anything would be denied with the amount of R&D in these devices and the standardization of materials and technologies.

That said, Xbox One requires a bit more time than ps4 because Kinect is included in the box, and it has that HDMI in.

I'm not getting an Xbox One, but I wouldn't be worried about whether or not it's passed these regulations or not if I were. They're by no means a rigorous QA.

Lulz_Boat1066d ago

you mean the same X1 at E3??? an nvidia PC?? LOL

the X1 at GC were a PCs with X1 case.

falviousuk1066d ago

And the same xbox one that is going to be at pax prime.

ignore all these people. I never knew so many people on here were MS and SONY shareholders.

Stop worrying about something that hasnt happened yet or complaining about it, and enjoy playing games on your current system and look forward to playing games on the next gen systems when they come.

After all you are supposed to be gamers

IHassounah1066d ago

What ? are you just jealous or something ? this is a proof that makes you a fanboy ; http://www.forzacentral.com...

Lulz_Boat1065d ago

ahahhaahahah, look below the first pictures of you OWN LINK, stupid! LOL

YEAH! A PC!! But the look was X1 like.

delusional fan troll.

OrangePowerz1066d ago

FCC is for approving Hardware, they don`t need the OS to be completely finished and fully polished.

CPTN MITCHELL1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

So why are you here if this site is all rumors and false info? And just because they have consoles at gamescom does not equal fcc approval

k2d1066d ago

Yet another xbox 180 waiting to happen.

This is a rushed console launch if I ever saw one.

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Belking1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

No FCC approval that we know of. I bet it's already FCC approved. They could keep that private like so many other corps do. All they have to do is pass they don't have to give out that info when.

iamnsuperman1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

I agree but what have they got to hide. Releasing it would distract away from the other, more damaging rumour, that the Xbox One is experiencing manufacturing issues.

maxkoe1066d ago

I thought FCC records were public records?

You can request to see anything you want through the Freedom of Information Act.

Bzone241066d ago

Then go and request it through the Freedom of Information Act before you submit an article saying they are in trouble. You know, like journalists are suppose to do. A little investigating goes a long way.

Kayant1066d ago (Edited 1066d ago )

Yh according to Albert Penello (MS PR rep) they already have ---> http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Edit --> iamnsuperman good point and seeing as they have talked about their hardware now we should get the records. It doesn't harm anyone.

Belking1066d ago

yea, like I said they could keep that info private. As long as it passes the FCC it's good. They don't have to release that info.

iamnsuperman1066d ago

I am not calling him a liar but why haven't they released it or why hasn't anyone seen it. One sure fire why to disprove something is to show it.

BitbyDeath1066d ago

Keep reading, it gets juicier.

eg.

I see how all Xbox Supporters here on gaf are saluting/quoting him etc.
But are you really wondering why a lot of people don't believe anything what he/MS says?
Have you listened to all the MS statements in the last couple of months, since the XBone unveil?
Have you heard that "Powah of the Cloud = 40x Xbox360" crap?
Have you seen the "Angry Joe/Major Nelson" incident?
Have you seen the "...Mattrick/buy a Xbox 360" video?
Have you seen that tweet of Aaron Greenberg regarding the XBone delay in europe, minutes prior the Xbone delay announcement?
Have you seen the "deal with it / why would I live there" tweet of the (now ex) MS exployee Adam Orth.
Have you seen the fake Kinect presentation during the XBone/E3 conference, with the clicker/switch inside the pocket/hands of the MS employee, showing us how "fast" Kinect reacts?
Have you seen their "204 GB/s ESRAM bandwith nonsense?
Remember all the DRM stuff a couple of months ago?
Remember the NSA stuff from their main department?
Should I go on with my list?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Izzy4081066d ago

@iamnsuperman

who gives a damn if they announce it or not, the point is they already passed the FCC before the PS4. Geezus, you can't talk sense into any PS fanboy because they're so wrapped up in their own little bubble.

kewlkat0071066d ago

This is already juicy yet sonyhardcores don't mind.

-All first party PS3 titles had Online pass DRM
-Failed promise of PS3 to PSP remote play.
-Failed promise of PS3 to Vita remote play.
-Still missing the promised digital PSP games on Vita store.
-Still missing the promised PS1 games on Vita store.
-Released an expensive all digital game machine (the PSP Go) and proceed to have large swaths of the games not released digitally.
-Overpriced digital games that are years old that never see price reductions even when their retail counterparts do.
-PSN & Sony has had several serious security leaks, the biggest of which occurred between 17/04/11-19/04-11. Sony shut down PSN on 20/04/11 under the guise of ‘Maintenance’ however it wasn't until 04/05/11(Over a week after the attack) that they released that 77 million registered PlayStation Network accounts, incl credit cards, passwords and other “identifiable personal information” had been compromised.
-For the above mentioned attack, Sony waited two days before even letting the FBI know that PSN Members data was stolen.
-The service outage caused by this attack totaled 24 days, they originally announced service would be restored “within a week”.
-This attack is considered one of the largest security breaches ever, surpassing their previous 2007 PSN leak, which affected 45 million customers. There had and has been further attacks to Sony’s product websites which have affected all registered sony users and customers, incl PSN members.
-Forcefully removed Linux support from PS3, a feature announced before launch sell/promote the original console.
-Consistently implied that they were adding cross game chat to the PS3 even though they knew the hardware was incapable.
-Leaving it to the very last minute to announce that the PSP Vita would require (extremely expensive) proprietary memory car

what else is new..

Eddie201011066d ago

FCC records are public information they cannot keep them secret or hidden from the public.

They probably have not finalized the hardware, meaning clock speeds that can affect heat produced by the system and if the system can maintain that extra heat without causing a fire or electrical problems.

Eddie201011066d ago

@kewlkat007

Half of what you written is false. Need to go back and do some homework.

HammadTheBeast1066d ago

@kewlkat

Nice list, but 40% of it is about PSP/Vita/Go, which is largely irrelevant.

Another 30% is about hacks/intrusions, these I'm just going to give you half credit for, massive companies are hacked on a regular basis, like Amazon, EBay, MS, Facebook countless times, and so on.

It was confirmed long ago that the credit card info wasn't compromised, it was encrypted and unreadable by hackers.

You literally did not make a SINGLE point concerning the Gen ahead of us, which is the one we're talking about.

*Tips hat*

corvusmd1066d ago

@kewlkat you forgot that they like to brag that Gaikai is the fastest most powerful network around, yet it was bought in 2012...is so great it won't release until sometime in 2014 for PS and has yet to be demo'd in ANY capacity...not to mention that on the list of companies with the most actual servers, they aren't even on the top ten, with number 10 having 40,000 and MS having over 1 Mil. Not to mention the fact that XB1's most recent server upgrade costs twice as much as ALL of Gaikai. You'd think Sony would at least address their most obvious weak link if they had something to say...all accounts say it's not even as powerful as CURRENT XBL