440°

Can the Xbox One Match the PS4 Before November?

Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) may be closing that gap that was established immediately after it and Sony (NYSE:SNE) announced the technical specifications of their upcoming gaming consoles. Sony took the lead right away with a number of higher-performance elements, but that may not stay true until November.

Read Full Story >>
wallstcheatsheet.com
Xwow20083927d ago

"Though Microsoft’s marginal increase of the Xbox One’s graphic processing performance may not be enough to catch up to the specs on the PS4, it sends a different message: the current specs of the Xbox One might not be the final ones. Microsoft could potentially continue making changes to the system to make it more powerful in the months before the November launch of both consoles."

ROFL..some ppl living in dream land.

LostDjinn3927d ago

Really drives home how little most "journalists" understand about the field they find themselves in.

NewMonday3927d ago

they could have delayed it to change the GPU after the PS4 February 20 reveal, but it is too late for that now. XB1 will start next gen vastly underpowered.

Ilovetheps53927d ago

newmonday,

I do agree that it's too late to change the specs of the system too much. But I don't think it's THAT underpowered. I think the X1's specs will be much closer to PS4 than people are thinking.

The multiplatform games should look almost identical in my opinion, but the exclusives on PS4 will show off the hardware. But I still the the X1 exclusives will be comparable.

TheGamingArt3927d ago

Really shows how much research amateurs do before writing an internet article...... and how they can know nothing about a topic and just put it out there like a discussion.

mcstorm3927d ago

What I find funny about gamers on here is all they ever talk about now is power when it comes to Sonys consoles. Gamers on here have very short memory's about the Playstation as last gen was the 1st gen where there console had more power than the other consoles on the market.
Power really is not as big as an issue as is made out on here in fact remember the PS one logo (Don't underestimate the power of Playstation)

Yes its nice having good looking games but it is not looks that make games. Game play is what makes the games and the reason why games sell well. Look at the best selling games from last gen and how many of them were the best looking games of this generation?

Even go back to the gen before and you will see the same with sales.

Power is not the reason why one console will out sell another it is the games and it will be the console that has the right games that appeals to the masses that will sell the most consoles come the end of the next gen.

That said people should buy the console they want to buy not what people on here say and if your a core gamer then you will own all 3 any way so it really dose not matter to you if you do.

nukeitall3927d ago

@mcstorm:

spot on!

Specs matter little when they are so close. If it was about power, PC would have killed console market a long time ago.

Ultimately, consoles are about content, ease of use and access, and features. Just look at past history!

3927d ago
redwin3927d ago

Xbox will never catch up to the ps4 in specs without having to worry about a loud and overheating machine. The Xbox was design to use the power if the cloud not the machine.

AngryTypingGuy3926d ago

Xbox One might not be as powerful as PS4, but to say that it will start the generation vastly underpowered might be a bit of a reach. Most games will probably look roughly the same. I'll be getting a PS4 first so I hope that most games perform better on it of course, but I'm guessing that most noticeable differences will be with the exclusives.

BitbyDeath3926d ago

The power difference is obviously greater than 360 vs PS3 but I don't think it is on the same level as PS2 vs xbox. Really we should all just let the games do the talking.

fr0sty3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

Without a delay, there simply is not enough time to make a drastic upgrade to the hardware (which means redesigning the architecture, creating new devkits and drivers to take advantage of it, and getting those tools in the hands of developers who then have to take the time to upgrade their games as much as possible before launch, if it is possible at all). Not only do they have to get the hardware built and delivered, but it must also go through rigorous testing to ensure it can hold up to the heat and that it functions properly. The drivers must be tested for bugs. Just to name a few of the steps needed.

These are not things you do when you are supposed to be giving your manufacturing plants enough time to churn out millions of consoles for a semi-worldwide launch.

If you expect MS to upgrade Xbox One any more than a simple overclock of a few mhz, you should also expect many launch game delays, extreme launch system shortages, and a high console failure rate in addition to games riddled with bugs.

We're already in the final stretch. Whatever they've built at this point is what they're committed to. The factories should already be pumping out final hardware if they plan on meeting launch targets.

As for the power difference between the two... Expect higher resolutions and framerates in some cases for multiplats. It's quite likely that the majority of early multiplats will be made to be about the same for both systems. However, judging by what I've seen, I think towards the end of the generation XB1's hardware will show it's age first, both on multiplats and exclusives.

Time will tell though. The difference is definitely more than with PS3 and 360. With 360, it had a stronger GPU, but weaker CPU (that was easier to program for). PS3 was the opposite. With PS4 and Xb1, they have essentially the same CPU, but the GPU in PS4 is a good bit stronger. Then you factor in the additional RAM and it's higher bandwidth... There will be a larger difference, but it isn't going to be anything most gamers will care about. They didn't care about Xbox's advantages over PS2. PS2 still went on to sell hundreds of millions more consoles.

+ Show (7) more repliesLast reply 3926d ago
iamnsuperman3927d ago (Edited 3927d ago )

O dear. He should stop dreaming. Microsoft couldn't make it more powerful. Launch is too soon. However, they can add extra functionality via software updates

OlgerO3927d ago

I will go with the PS4, but im sure that the games on xbox one will look about the same in the beginning. I think that the differences will become more profound as the years go by

HugoDrax3927d ago

@mcstorm

I'm a core gamer, and you're exactly right sir. I own every console and handheld besides the VITA. That will all change eventually as I do have my launch day PS4 & XB1 pre ordered.

Happy gaming people

slampunk3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

A sensible reply to a sensible comment..... something you don't see very often in the N4G comments section.... :)

and you got 4 disagrees!!!! LMAO

n4rc3926d ago

I'm not going to get into this again with people.. But the specs are only part of the story..

Just like a car.. HP is important.. But weight, drive line etc all make huge differences..

For sake of argument.. Ps4 has more HP but what if its less efficient?

Having more power on paper is all it is right now.. Maybe it will still be the case come launch.. But.nobody knows for sure

NewsForge3926d ago

1.84 Gigaflops is considered mild range. 1.3 Gigaflop is considered entry level (Low end garbage). The Xbox One is severely underpowered. They wanted more TV features so they invested in that instead of a proper GPU. Have fun with your new cable box this holiday while I game on a PS4.

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 3926d ago
NeoTribe3927d ago

They cant go changing hardware a couple months before release. Unless ofcourse they feel like having the rrod all over again. It did help them sell more consoles -_-

hellvaguy3927d ago

How exactly did they "sell" free replacements for 3 years after rrod was discovered? Thats not exactly selling consoles when you have to repair or replace free of charge.

stuna13927d ago

Because a large amount of people didn't want to wait for their consoles to be repaired, especially if a high profile game had come out, like say "Call of Duty"! So most opted to buy brand new consoles. That has played a bigger role on why you have so many gamers saying that they have 2 and 3 Xbox 360's in their homes.

creatchee3927d ago

@stuna1

"Because a large amount of people didn't want to wait for their consoles to be repaired, especially if a high profile game had come out, like say "Call of Duty"! So most opted to buy brand new consoles."

I have heard people spouting this off for years and its ridiculous. First of all, there is absolutely no documentation to support this claim - only anecdotal "evidence" that comes mostly from the pro-Sony people. If anybody has any published proof of this "buying because I can't wait for a replacement" phenomenon, I'd love to see it.

Secondly, if people are so desperate to play a video game that they can't wait 1-2 weeks for the replacement program to do its thing, then we live in very sad times indeed. There are books to read and flowers to smell and women to kiss. And, if you are that hardcore of a gamer, you probably already have another console to play. I know because I played my PS3 during my second RROD.

ShwankyShpanky3926d ago

Go on over to the official Xbox forums and read about the "pro-Sony" people buying RRoD replacements.

creatchee3926d ago

@ShwankyShpanky

Anybody can create an Xbox forums account.

Also I didn't say that it didn't happen - I said that it was a rumor propagated MOSTLY by the pro-Sony crowd. I've seen numerous posts of people trying to add 10 million or more sales to the 360 total because of these impatient rebuyers. It's bull, plain and simple.

TheRealHeisenberg3926d ago

@ stuna1

I have three PS3s in my house. Does your "logic" apply there as well?

stuna13926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

Just because you! The ones who replied to my comment didn't take that route, doesn't mean no one took that route! Was there concrete documentation of RROD for the Xbox 360.in the beginning? No! It actually took the government to step in before Microsoft owned up to the issues! And yes theres documentation to the facts! If people want to walk through life with blindfolds on, fingers in their ears, singing the smurf song, it still doesn't change cold hard facts.

EDIT: It's also a known fact that those cncerned about their K/D ratios would have no problem investing in another Xbox 360. Especially if squad members could pass them up! What cracks me up is the fact that Microsoft incompetence can be blaim on Sony supporters, did they somehow create the RROD? Talk about Jedi mind tricks.

Ninjews3926d ago

@creatchee there is no hard evidence to dispel the claim either. I don't really know what kind of "hard" evidence Someone will be able to provide this they bought another 360, because theirs rrod and they couldn't wait for their replacement. Remember common sense does not apply to gamers. In my experience gamers well do anything to get their fix, especially for one specific game they have been looking forward to.

Hicken3926d ago

RROD wasn't "discovered." It was known. The damn consoles were dying days after release.

Does it have to be said AGAIN that it took a year and a half before MS started covering the RROD? From November 2005 to July 2007, any system that died was replaced at the consumer's expense, NOT Microsoft's. July 5th was when MS acknowledge the problem and extended the warranty to 3 years. And it was during this time that the failure rate of ~54% was recorded.

And yes, even then, quite a few people bought backups, so they could play while their main system was being repaired.

Chevalier3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

I sold plenty of replacement 360's in my store so yeah it happened a lot. Peoples systems did die after getting replaced as well it's not infinite for the coverage. But what do I know I only work at the busiest EB in my city for over 6 years.

As for xbox one equaling ps4 by November, while it isn't impossible I would say based on such low xbox one allocations I would say it is extremely unlikely. Currently my ps4 preorders are about 241 units and Sony just opened up day one to us again whereas our xbox one preorders are at 39 units and I haven't had a new preorder in a week, in that time we sold a dozen ps4. Our smallest store has well over 100 ps4 preorders and there are 9 stores here. It will take 3 weeks to sellout of our remaining xbox one units remaining and you'd be surprised how little units I am talking about for our district as a whole, that is how slow it has been on preorders. So if there's another article about Microsoft blowing preorder numbers at Gamestop I will laugh.

Although our MS rep did say that they had to change design last minute since the design for DRM was literally built to the hardware. That to me is not a good thing.

+ Show (6) more repliesLast reply 3926d ago
Gazondaily3927d ago

It's not going to happen.

Does the X1 have to match the PS4 though? The difference in specs doesn't appear to be that startling (at this stage anyway. The console is fine as it is.

Thehyph3927d ago

They are both fine consoles. They both ended up a lot more similar than I would have expected and wanted if you had asked me a year ago.
People fighting over the specs is getting old. People fighting over sales is getting old.

The fanboys out there fervently trying to "convert" others to their "side" are just like the Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses showing up at my door. I can do my own critical thinking, thanks.

Foxgod3927d ago

They already match, theres a 5% difference between the two at best.
There will even be situations at which the X1 may perform better, such as AI and physics heavy situations.

Some people act like comparing the X1 to the ps4, is like comparing an I5 to an I7, which is over stretched.
Both the X1 and Ps4 are of the same class, theres has never been a generation before with two competitors releasing hardware with such similar specs.

pacostacos3927d ago

idk why people think the difference is huge a lot of devs have been coming out of the woods saying the difference isnt that much and that theyre pretty much close to each other in power

B-radical3927d ago

We have already seen such good things from both consoles i believe xbox one so far has shown its on par with ps4.

How long will it take for ps4 to slip away from xbox one graphically?

Foxgod3927d ago

Wont happen, how many exclusives where actually able to run 30fps Full hd on the ps3? not too many, 99% of them where 30 fps and 720p.

Same with 360 games, they where 720p and 30 fps, both consoles could not do better.

3927d ago
Nekroo913927d ago

i have no idea since when a difference between 1.3 tflops to 1.8 on the ps4. 32 rops vs 16 on the xbox, 1152 sharders cores vs 768 on the xbox and 25gigapixels/sec vs 12 on the xbox is a 5% between the two at best. LOL
ah and not to mention the ddr3 vs gddr5...overall its a 20% power difference in multiplatform games...not 50% like some fanboys think but 20% something is still something

XabiDaChosenOne3927d ago

If you truly believe that the difference is only 5% while having knowledge of both consoles respective specs than you failed elementary math miserable. Stop damage controlling and accept the facts.

McScroggz3926d ago

I would truly love for you to try and explain to me how there is "a 5% difference between the two at best."

Actually, instead of answering that I'd prefer to know why you constantly spread misinformation?

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 3926d ago
fOrlOnhOpe573927d ago

No. I think the specs are more or less finalised before the respective launch dates.
I think MS would be asking for trouble if they try to push for any further performance improvement.
I will be so glad so all this ' mines bigger than yours' crap can have a rest.

Foxgod3927d ago

I would like to see it rest too, its redicilous that people bicker about specs when it comes to consoles.

At best it means your bragging that yours is one nanometer bigger, considering that if you wanna brag about specs, you better be ready to spend a 2000 euro minumum on those bragging rights.

Show all comments (115)
190°

No Man's Sky Is Easily One Of Gaming's Greatest Comeback Stories

Despite No Man Sky's rocky launch, Hello Games managed to turn it into one of the best space exploration RPGs out there.

-Foxtrot14h ago

I hate the whole concept of "comeback story" because at the end of the day it doesn't remove the core issue we had in the first place, that we were lied to, it was disappointing and it launched with bare content to what was promised for years.

Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch but for me if you launch in a terrible state then you had your chance. I can applaud you for what you've done after but at the end of the day there's not much of a choice since most gamers would blank your next product if you ditched your last game so fast, it's not about repairing the game but spending your time repairing gamers trust before you launch your next product otherwise it would be dead on arrival.

With these stories and the games being updated, the only way is up most of the time so of course it's going to improve the game and feel better over all, getting better and better as time passes. No Mans Sky, Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76 etc but then you have games like Anthem, Suicide Squad, Redfall and The Avengers where the devs just clearly moved on, now if they have another product people won't be as exited for it, I mean hell Guardians of the Galaxy was a great game but because of the Avengers it didn't help its sales since people were obviously still sour at that point.

I still think despite the improvements to games like No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk along with being better now overall the games are still not up there to what was promised and hyped as for years.

If we keep celebrating these “comeback stories” then unfortunately it only strongly supports the concept that these studios / publishers can continue to push half arsed broken products out for the sake of quick sales instead of waiting until they are fully finished. We need to condemn this awful behaviour or sadly we lose all voice and power as consumers.

Sonic188112h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I feel the same way about Cyberpunk 2077. I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm not a fan of comeback stories as well. But No man sky developer was a small indie team compared to CDPR. It's worse when it's coming from a AAA developer

Nacho_Z12h ago

"Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch"

You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal.

The reason NMS and HG are held in such high esteem and calling them liars is a weak stance is the amount of work they've put into it, for free. They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted.

-Foxtrot12h ago(Edited 11h ago)

They are liars though...

We are not revising history here, I'm sorry but we're not

They built this game up for years and they launched it knowing full well it wasn't up to scratch to what they originally showed off or hyped it up to be.

"They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted"

And like I said above most of that comes from the fact that if they had just moved on straight away nobody would have supported their next game. They've washed most of that sour taste away after supporting No Mans Sky so now they are doing a new game which more people feel like they can support and get excited for.

Anyway how can you say "You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not" and then make the point that "Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone"

This means that if a small team like this can turn a game around then big AAA games like Suicide Squad, Redfall, Anthem and the like should have been able to do it no problem, oh but that's right they didn't want to put the time or effort into it. They can do it but some people just decide not to.

Blad3runner004m ago(Edited 2m ago)

"You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal."

People paid for the game at launch and got lied to. Now the game is what it SHOULD have been from the start (what people paid for) and we should be happy they aren't charging EXTRA? Its free because people ALREADY paid for the game at launch.

People PAID for what the game is in its current state (what it should have been at launch), not what it was when it released. Charging people AGAIN would result in even more backlash.

milohighclub2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Whatever happened at launch is in the past. By your logic they could have supported it for a year got it to the project they promised then stopped but they didn't. They're still supporting it to this they, they've released more content post than pretty much any game I can think off. More than most MMOs. They didn't have to go this far but they have and don't have any plans of stopping. All for free too.
Yeah they had a shit launch and they've apologised, learned and more than made up for it. I was pissed off at them at launch, but not petty enough to keep slandering them 7 years later.
You have much bigger studios releasing half assed games and fixing it later or even worse not even bothering.

TheCaptainKuchiki1h ago

And it doesn't change the fact that the game is a boring procedurally generated environment in which your repeat the same actions over and over again with no real purpose. I hate when they say that the game became good.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 4m ago
thorstein14h ago

I really enjoyed it at launch and had every trophy by August 2016.

The experience I had is no longer in the game: It was just me and my ship. It was a survival game and the feeling of loneliness in the universe was pervasive. There was no way to ruin too far from your ship and, in an emergency, you grenaded a hole in the ground to survive.

I miss that aspect, but since then, I love what they've done.

Hugodastrevas12h ago

I'd say it's THE definitive comeback story

TheGamingHounds10h ago

Final Fantasy 14 takes that one imho

jwillj2k411h ago

Oh great another story about the cleanest shirt in a bin of dirty laundry.

Show all comments (18)
100°

The Holy Gosh Darn: Ozan Drøsdal Talks Dialogue Skipping Mechanics And Why He Hates The Word Quirky

Ozan Drøsdal tells TheGamer about The Holy Gosh Darn, the final part of the Tuesday Trilogy.

Read Full Story >>
thegamer.com
80°

Hollow Knight: Silksong's Follow-Up to Grubs is a Logical Progression

Hollow Knight: Silksong’s new collectible that succeeds the popular Grubs has the potential to deepen the mysteries of the new world.

Read Full Story >>
gamerant.com
maykhausonninh2h ago

That sounds very interesting. I'll definitely give it a try if I have the chance.