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Contrast Dev: "Very Little Difference Between Versions on PS4 and High End PC"

"It's often been the case that the PlayStation 4, and the Xbox One for that matter, won't be as powerful as the most high-end PCs. Of course, given the architecture and how easy it is to developer for the PS4 compared to the PS3, it would make multi-platform development all the easier for the next generation."

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MariaHelFutura3939d ago

Great news is what the Ps4 does. Seriously, everything you hear about the console is positive.

Bathyj3939d ago

A far cry from the ps3s launch. Its been an incredible turnaround for peoples perception of Sony. They just seems to be ticking every box.

hellvaguy3939d ago

Well besides mandatory paid online. But its really not too terribly expensive.

malokevi3939d ago

What it does, it does great. However, there are a few things it doesn't do, which adds credence to the competition.

andibandit3939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

Youre all reading way to much into this....

First of all the article should read:

Indie Game "Contrast" will look almost the same on PS4 and High end PC.

Second of all we can begin to question why that is. Is it because:

1. PS4 is as powerful as a high end PC?.
Answer = LOL

2. Is it because it's a indie game, that could hardly stress a high end PC?.
Answer = Perhaps

3. Is it because Sam Abbot is the PR manager at Compulsion games and dosn't want to downplay either version.
Answer = Bingo

Now dont get me wrong i have my PS4 preordered, but im not gonna loose all sense of criticism because of it.

JunioRS1013939d ago

@ hellvaguy

Well, I'd actually rather pay for online multiplayer this time around so that they can actually raise some money to work on making their service faster/more dependable etc.

It seems like a very reasonable policy. After all, I've been paying $60/year for XBL for the last 6 years, so it'll be nice to cancel that and pick up PS+, which is clearly a better value, and in my opinion might even become the better service if Sony invests the raised PS+ funds into it.

Thehyph3938d ago

@andibandit got it.

@JunioRS101 got it, too.

PS4 is not going to be more powerful than a good PC, although the hardware consistency allows for developers to get more out of a PS4 than if you had a PC with the exact same specs. A high or top end PC will always have more raw power to put out though.

I'm perfectly fine with paying to play online. I expected, and wanted, it to happen. Anything to make the service better. I'm not saying it was bad to begin with, but it definitely needed improvement. This benefits the consumer in another way in that Sony is now more accountable for anything that could happen in terms of outages and whatnot.

AuToFiRE3938d ago

I highly doubt its as powerful as a "High End PC." The specs shown at E3 would deliver 1.6 teraFLOPS while my 2 generation old graphics card ALONE still pumps out over 6 teraFLOPS

meetajhu3938d ago

It's a indie platformer and Ps4 image quality will be poor compared to PC.

RedHawkX3938d ago

yep thats why i dont understand why some people are getting an xbox one instead. it boggles my mind and xbox one is the one with a bazillion bad things about it.

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Corpser3939d ago

Would it be great news if he said "very little difference between versions on ps4 and Xbox one?

Smoovekid3939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

Why are you bringing the Xbox One into this?

dc13939d ago

It would be better news.

Competition is always a good thing. The XBox Two is very likely to be much more performance orientated because of the associated criticisms at the One's architecture and lack of targeted high end graphic rendering (not my words, but MS's).

The 360 came out like gang busters because of previous lessons learned on the OXBox as well as building/improving on what made the PS2 dominant.

The PS3 services improved because MS had there stuff together with the 360. Sony couldn't just match them. They had to surpass expectations (PSPlus) to present a compelling argument (as there was none before) and to change the narrative at the time.

The PS4 (general launch experience and general perception) improved because Sony learned some hard lessons.

The XBox Two (general launch experience and general perception) will improve as well because MS will learn from prior mistakes as well.

MysticStrummer3939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

"Would it be great news if he said "very little difference between versions on ps4 and Xbox one?"

It wouldn't be any kind of news, since parity is the name of the game with console multiplats.

Corpser3939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

@smoovekid

Because people here would have the opposite reaction. Ps4 fanboys want developers to take advantage of ps4 when compare to xb1, but don't want to heAr pc version looks better than ps4

MasterCornholio3939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

Your hoping for him to say that or something?

This is just my opinion but developers should maximize the hardware on each platform. If console A is capable of rendering much better graphics than console B then i dont expect the two versions of the game to be the same. But if a super powerful console is limited by a vastly inferior one then the only ones who suffer are those that made the investment in the more powerful system which is unfair to me.

NeoTribe3939d ago

Would it be great news if he said "very little difference between versions on xbox one and wii u"?

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Lior3939d ago

A low end AMD CPU and a low end GPU do not compare in any way to a high end CPU like a i7 4770k and a GPU like a gtx 770 or 780

wishingW3L3939d ago

and again you can't compare PC and consoles like that due to the fact that PC developers can't program to the metal, so most of that power of that high-end GPU will remain untouched.

HammadTheBeast3939d ago

Planetside 2 Max settings PS4.

Gtfo.

badz1493939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

@lior

don't take this the wrong way but you're being a dick! Steam statistics has shown that majority of pc gamers on Steam are on middle range setup! don't just come in here listing the highest end of cards available out there and pretend that all pc gamers have the same setup!

back on topic, what this Contrast dev is saying is, his game doesn't need thousands of dollars of a pc to be optimized. that is all!

TIER1xWOLFPACKx3939d ago

You seem butthurt, have a snickers it will make you feel better. Anyway your disagreeing with developer that knows what he is talking about.

Joe9133939d ago

Who cares are your feelings hurt because he compared the next gen consoles to a high end pc. You must be a dev too or and has had first-hand experience with both of the next gen consoles right that’s how you know more about the next gen then this dev right lol are you trying to be a dick or are you trying to get ppl to game on pc instead of a console because I don't think it will work. Like I said before if that was such a huge factor I think more ppl would be gaming on computers and not consoles right. I really want to know why pc gamers come to these articles and try to sway ppl to game on pc or to try and trash console gaming IMO it is stupid I don’t get on pc website much do console gamers get on pc websites and bitch about how console gaming is better or is it only pc gamers that do that lol pathetic.

MasterCornholio3939d ago

Try playing Planetside 2 at max settings on a computer with a weak GPU and a Weak CPU and see what happens.

NeoTribe3939d ago

You must feel threatened coming out with a whiny comment like that. Go play minecraft.

Eldyraen3939d ago

Specs matter but games>specs. I game on PC as primary platform ATM but the article is right as nearly all PS4 games look as good or better than at least 75% of PC games of today. When it releases that might change though as new engines scale better (both up and down) so PC will see even better looking games as well.

To be honest I would be happy if many PC games looked as good as Killzone 3 or Infamous SS. We have some that look better but not all devs can afford or attempt that level of quality. When they do yes its usually better but that's the minority to be honest.

andibandit3939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

@TIER1xWOLFPACKx

"Anyway your disagreeing with developer that knows what he is talking about."

Sam Abbot is not a developer, he is the Public Relations Manager at Compulsion Games.....and the last thing he is gonna go out and say as PR manager is: our game on X totally sucks compared to our game on Y

Metfanant3938d ago

And here comes Lior, another butt hurt PC fanboy that either A. Can't read or B. Simply can't comprehend what they are reading...

Once again NOBODY has said that the PS4 is more powerful than high end gaming rigs...yet the PC nut bags come running in here like their hair is on fire screaming about $600+ gpu's that cost more than an entire PS4 and how much more powerful they are than thr "low end cpu" and "low end GPU" found in the PS4...

Yet they all fail to realize that no by is arguing against them...and that there is NO WAY they could build a $400 complete PC that can match the specs/performance of a PS4

kikizoo3938d ago

Theory =/= real world

Even ps3 after 10 years can make games on par with best pc games, so for ps4, it would be ZERO problem.

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ATi_Elite3939d ago

Contrast Dev: “Very Little Difference Between Versions on PS4 and High End PC”

So they made the game for the PS4 then ported to the PC. FACT.

I don't see a lot of bells and whistles in Contrast anyway. Right Now Arma 3 is the god of graphics and the upcoming StarCitizen will eclipse Arma 3.

Contrast is about as Graphical as America's McGee's Alice. (which was a fun game)

Metfanant3938d ago

There is no FACT that this is a PS4->PC port...what IS fact however is thay this game is not a technical tour de force and should run very similarly on a PC and a PS4...

Pain3939d ago

Compare a Console to a PC and in come the PC trolls.. and moron Xbots .. this generation is going to be full of idiots.. more so then the last.. fun times ahead all..

SignifiedSix913939d ago

Don't forget the annoying sony zealots!

Autodidactdystopia3938d ago

you mean compare one person and another person and GOD forbid both of them want to participate in the discussion?

what?

I also do not consider myself an idiot, I feel that you just lack the knowhow to build a pc yourself, otherwise you would not be calling us idiots.

think outside of the box you just put yourself in.

Pain3938d ago

@ Auto llack of knowhow to build a PC? u talking to me lol? my rig is 2k+ i know how to build a rig..

Like i said this gen is going to be fun and full of idiots.. both sides..

GDDR6_20143939d ago

Great news when a developer doesn't optimize their game to a more powerful platform?

Metfanant3938d ago

Has nothing to do with optimization...this is not a technical monster of a game...its a smaller indie title...its never going to push hardcore PC hardware...and is not intended to do so...

gamernova3939d ago

The ps4 can play at resolutions beyond 1080p? PC gamers can :P

Smoovekid3939d ago

Hold on I'll go find someone who cares.

Major_Glitch3939d ago

Can PC gamers play while lounging on a couch? No? Moving on. The pc trolls just don't get it. Most people don't want to spend hundreds of dollars every few months constantly upgrading a rig, just so we can play our games hunched over a desk. I'll pay the one time fee to purchase my console of choice so that I can play games on me 50" hdtv while relaxing on me couch.

aquamala3939d ago

@Major_Glitch

of course we can, my gaming PC is right next to my consoles connected to the same 55" TV

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Autodidactdystopia3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

@major.

yes. my daughters pc is connected to a 120 inch screen and it is entirely controlled by the xbox 360 controller.
It has all of their movies, all of their music, all of their games (snes,genesis,master syetem, n64,dreamcast,psx,ps2, gamecube, wii, and of course bout 30 PC games ranging from mw3 to crisis 2. its got a blu ray drive wifi N and a wireless 360 receiver all in a small compact package. about the size of a 360 original.

the only games it doesn't push 1080p with is crisis 1 and 2

the card they have installed is the 6770 low profile edition

all of this was built for 600 bucks in hardware.

all of the software can be launched closed and controlled no matter what console is playing via the 360 controller.

so in a long ass answer.. Yes and my kids love it.

oh and this pc has never been upgraded and is still trouncing the ps3 and 360 in terms of horsepower over a year after I bought it and built it.

kikizoo3938d ago

Yep, better resolution...but less great games, and ugliar, like each generations.

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JunioRS1013939d ago

"Titanfall this, Titanfall that"

I'll take The Order: 1886, please.

ATi_Elite3931d ago

LOL you dam well know your butthurt cause PS4 is NOT getting Titanfall.

JsonHenry3938d ago

This will probably be the case for a short while like it was with the X360/PS3.

Typically the only differences were things like higher rez textures, advanced depth of field, farther LoS on objects, higher world density, stereoscopic 3D, and higher resolutions than 1080p and higher FPS than the standard 30-60fps.

So no, there won't be hardly any differences. /sarcasm

Enjoy the PS4 guys. Its going to be a monster of a console. But at the end of the day it is a console. PLEASE stop comparing it to other products like the PC. The comparison isn't fair and in the end it only makes you sound like an idiot.

ChrisW3938d ago

@Decrypt,

No one around here likes hearing such nonsense about PC gaming being better than console, regardless of how truthful or factual your arguments are.

So, plain and simple... You're a troll. But only because you're against the lowbrows of the gaming world.

otherZinc3938d ago

I'm sick if all this dam* talk...make a game that's 1080P native, running at 60fps at launch then...Or, stfu!

Talkin all that s**t!

RumbleFish3938d ago

The Infected gets Agree(144) | Disagree(20)and is bubbled down for trolling. This site's system is a mess.

Also the fanboys on this site are a shame.

ChrisW3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

I agree... But, you've been a member here since 2008 and you're still complaining about stuff like this?

RumbleFish3938d ago

You're right. I am supposed to give up idealism.

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TurboGamer3939d ago

Translation: The PC version will be a crappy ass port.

Ducky3939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

It's an indie platformer that isn't trying to be on the bleeding edge of visuals.

The fact that both versions look nearly identical is to be expected.
... and calling it a crappy port is a bit unfair when the dev is considering Steam Workshop support. They seem to care about each platform they're on.

decrypt3939d ago

@TurboGamer

If history is anything to go by, its Playstation that gets the crappiest version of all platforms. PC being the best version most of the time at least ;-)

Check: Skyrim, BF3, Metro, Mafia 2, Dragon age for reference.

ravinash3939d ago

Might have been the case with the PS3.
But the PS4 with the PC like design should mean that devs don't have any excuse to do any lesser job on the playstation than any other platform.

HammadTheBeast3939d ago

Shouldn't you be petitioning for Red Dead?

Also Last of Us, never "better" on PC. Lulz

decrypt3939d ago

@hammad

Thats like asking why isnt there Dota 2 on PS3?

sync903939d ago

Fanboy we don't wanna hear it. you sound butthurt, sticking up for your beloved pc. What a nerd!

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Lior3939d ago

Ok everyone just listen they do not optimise the games nvidia and AMD release drivers which get the most out of the games

NeoTribe3939d ago

Even if pc does get a port, its because nobody, even developers give a damn about pc. Pc is not supported like consoles are because there niche. Quit nerding out on articles not even relevant to your interests.

aquamala3939d ago

PC is niche? here's EA's Q1 FY2014 financial report, revenue by platform

PC 298 million
Xbox360 256 million
PS3 238 million

chaldo3938d ago

@turbogamer

Tell me more about your non-existent PC please. You really know how the games are on PC eh?

TurboGamer3938d ago (Edited 3938d ago )

Coolermaster GX550 PSU
intel Core i5 3450 ivy-bridge
MSI nVidia GTX460 768MB (waiting for next years GTX860 Maxwell)
Gigabyte B75M-D3H
16GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 corsair vengeance RAM
2TB WD Green for OS and games.
3TB WD Green for everything else.

Does that answer your question?

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mafiahajeri3939d ago

Can't wait to play the elder scrolls online beta exclusively on the PS4 as well the amazing planetside 2!

porter4703939d ago

Get a gaming pc then you don't have to wait

mafiahajeri3939d ago

Hmm I do have to wait if I want to play elder scrolls and I already play planetside on the PC is specifically said on the PS4 not PC it's a different experience.

Tatsuya 3938d ago

I'm a PC gamer as well, but what you just did is a disgrace. He was talking about the PS4. I have an awesome gaming rig too but do I talk shit about it? Nope. PS4 is my lead gaming platform come next gen. Why? because I want it to be, it is the epitome of a perfect gaming machine. So take your shit out and STFU.

LoveOfTheGame3938d ago

Except the beta isn't exclusive to PS4, so your dumb.

mafiahajeri3938d ago

I meant console exclusive.

LoveOfTheGame3938d ago

It's also not console exclusive, so your dumb.

nirwanda3939d ago

Looks like a really good game but it's not really pushing any graphical boundaries.

iconic563939d ago (Edited 3939d ago )

exactly, this article would mean something totally different if it were CD Projekt Red saying the PS4 version will be 99% of the ultra settings on a PC.

Edit: Even though, they probably will look pretty close.

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No Man's Sky Is Easily One Of Gaming's Greatest Comeback Stories

Despite No Man Sky's rocky launch, Hello Games managed to turn it into one of the best space exploration RPGs out there.

-Foxtrot17h ago

I hate the whole concept of "comeback story" because at the end of the day it doesn't remove the core issue we had in the first place, that we were lied to, it was disappointing and it launched with bare content to what was promised for years.

Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch but for me if you launch in a terrible state then you had your chance. I can applaud you for what you've done after but at the end of the day there's not much of a choice since most gamers would blank your next product if you ditched your last game so fast, it's not about repairing the game but spending your time repairing gamers trust before you launch your next product otherwise it would be dead on arrival.

With these stories and the games being updated, the only way is up most of the time so of course it's going to improve the game and feel better over all, getting better and better as time passes. No Mans Sky, Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76 etc but then you have games like Anthem, Suicide Squad, Redfall and The Avengers where the devs just clearly moved on, now if they have another product people won't be as exited for it, I mean hell Guardians of the Galaxy was a great game but because of the Avengers it didn't help its sales since people were obviously still sour at that point.

I still think despite the improvements to games like No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk along with being better now overall the games are still not up there to what was promised and hyped as for years.

If we keep celebrating these “comeback stories” then unfortunately it only strongly supports the concept that these studios / publishers can continue to push half arsed broken products out for the sake of quick sales instead of waiting until they are fully finished. We need to condemn this awful behaviour or sadly we lose all voice and power as consumers.

Sonic188116h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I feel the same way about Cyberpunk 2077. I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm not a fan of comeback stories as well. But No man sky developer was a small indie team compared to CDPR. It's worse when it's coming from a AAA developer

Nacho_Z16h ago

"Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch"

You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal.

The reason NMS and HG are held in such high esteem and calling them liars is a weak stance is the amount of work they've put into it, for free. They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted.

-Foxtrot15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

They are liars though...

We are not revising history here, I'm sorry but we're not

They built this game up for years and they launched it knowing full well it wasn't up to scratch to what they originally showed off or hyped it up to be.

"They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted"

And like I said above most of that comes from the fact that if they had just moved on straight away nobody would have supported their next game. They've washed most of that sour taste away after supporting No Mans Sky so now they are doing a new game which more people feel like they can support and get excited for.

Anyway how can you say "You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not" and then make the point that "Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone"

This means that if a small team like this can turn a game around then big AAA games like Suicide Squad, Redfall, Anthem and the like should have been able to do it no problem, oh but that's right they didn't want to put the time or effort into it. They can do it but some people just decide not to.

Blad3runner003h ago(Edited 3h ago)

"You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal."

People paid for the game at launch and got lied to. Now the game is what it SHOULD have been from the start (what people paid for) and we should be happy they aren't charging EXTRA? Its free because people ALREADY paid for the game at launch.

People PAID for what the game is in its current state (what it should have been at launch), not what it was when it released. Charging people AGAIN would result in even more backlash.

anast3h ago

"You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal."

They already charged for the full price game. All of that work is owed because it was already paid for.

milohighclub6h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Whatever happened at launch is in the past. By your logic they could have supported it for a year got it to the project they promised then stopped but they didn't. They're still supporting it to this they, they've released more content post than pretty much any game I can think off. More than most MMOs. They didn't have to go this far but they have and don't have any plans of stopping. All for free too.
Yeah they had a shit launch and they've apologised, learned and more than made up for it. I was pissed off at them at launch, but not petty enough to keep slandering them 7 years later.
You have much bigger studios releasing half assed games and fixing it later or even worse not even bothering.

anast2h ago

The DLC costs money. But yeah, people are hanging on to this one longer because of their previous reputation.

TheCaptainKuchiki5h ago

And it doesn't change the fact that the game is a boring procedurally generated environment in which your repeat the same actions over and over again with no real purpose. I hate when they say that the game became good.

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thorstein17h ago

I really enjoyed it at launch and had every trophy by August 2016.

The experience I had is no longer in the game: It was just me and my ship. It was a survival game and the feeling of loneliness in the universe was pervasive. There was no way to ruin too far from your ship and, in an emergency, you grenaded a hole in the ground to survive.

I miss that aspect, but since then, I love what they've done.

Hugodastrevas15h ago

I'd say it's THE definitive comeback story

TheGamingHounds14h ago

Final Fantasy 14 takes that one imho

CrimsonWing693h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Yep and the way they actually did it where Bahamut destroyed the original FF14 and the realm was “reborn” seals it as the best way to do something like this, lol.

jwillj2k415h ago

Oh great another story about the cleanest shirt in a bin of dirty laundry.

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The Holy Gosh Darn: Ozan Drøsdal Talks Dialogue Skipping Mechanics And Why He Hates The Word Quirky

Ozan Drøsdal tells TheGamer about The Holy Gosh Darn, the final part of the Tuesday Trilogy.

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Hollow Knight: Silksong's Follow-Up to Grubs is a Logical Progression

Hollow Knight: Silksong’s new collectible that succeeds the popular Grubs has the potential to deepen the mysteries of the new world.

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maykhausonninh5h ago

That sounds very interesting. I'll definitely give it a try if I have the chance.