PS4 pre-order sales No. 1; Xbox One No. 2 at retailer

Pre-order sales for Sony Corp.’s Playstation 4 led over Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox One Tues. at Amazon.com Inc. this week following the retail price announcement of both consoles.

This week, the PS4 ranked as the No. 1 pre-order product at Amazon’s Video Games division.

[SlavisH2]

Its hard to deny Sony taking next gen sales wise and xbox one following. Wii U has done a complete 180 like sony last gen. first to last place. I can't see them competing with these two.

[Fakdafakinfakerz]

2nd =/= Last

[hellvaguy]

"2nd =/= Last"

This is why the education system is broken. Simple math would tell you that if there are 3 consoles, 3rd =/= last.

Sad face, very sad.

[BigFnHooters]

The Xbox 360 is in last place in worldwide sales.

It has been for a long time.

[mikeslemonade]

There's only 2 next generation systems. WiiU is current gen. Nintendo came out with 2 systems during generation 7. Is the iPhone or Samsung galaxy a next gen system?? No.

[steve_ps]

@Hellvaguy

You do know that ='s with a line through it means does not equal..? (≠) Just a bit funny talking about a flawed education system when you're misusing symbols haha.

[Utalkin2me]

@mikeslemonade

Xbox will be second place one again? Ummm they're 3rd this generation.

[Boody-Bandit]

Put me down for 2 of those PS4 sales.
Pre-ordered 2 from Amazon immediately after Sony's E3 conference.

[kreate]

I think I should go cancel my xbone pre-order.

[indysurfn]

i know I went into gamestop to buy a ps3 jrpg and the sales clerk told me they sold out of xbone yesterday, in 1-2 hours. I was immediately thinking must be a squeeze by Microsoft to make people think very one is running out to preorder. please most people are not happy about xbone. Most aren't loyal fools to start the ball rolling where you basically make every single retail device have resale restrictions on them. what's next, cell phones? pc? smart refridge? stereo's? handhelds? PLEASE Microsoft I didn't know when I bought xbox360 it was going to be my last xbox, but you assured that. all sell out to the great illuminati Microsoft

[BigFnHooters]

"first to last place."

Are you for real?

The PS3 is the top selling console in the world. It has been the top selling console worldwide for three years now.

The Xbox 360 has been in last place in worldwide installed base for a long time. And that even with the tens of millions of new model Xbox 360s Xbox fans bought over and over again due to the RRoD fiasco and other hardware problems that plagued the system.

Absolutely incredible job by Sony.

With the exception of three years or so the Wii fad was active, Sony has had the top selling console in the world non-stop going all the way back to 1994 to right here in 2014.

And the PS4 looks to continue that amazing track record for the next seven years.

The PS2 sold some 90 million consoles AFTER it dropped to 200 dollars. The PS3 still hasn't hit the magic 200 dollar mark where the PS2 absolutely exploded in sales. And the PS3, unlike the Wii and Xbox 360, has at least another five years of retail sales left as it works its way down to 200, 150, 100 dollars.

This gen isn't close to being finished. The only thing for certain is the 360 will end up in distant last place. The PS3 looks to easily hit the 110-120 million worldwide installed base by the time the system stops being sold.

[hellvaguy]

I think they mean over the entire lifespan, not the last 3 years. Sales figures are just epeen bragging over threads, and mean very little to common folk like us.

TBH, you do realize the 360 was far more profitable from charging online fees right (to the tune of around 2 billion/year)? It's no wonder why sony took a page from MS playbook there and are requiring mandatory online fees with Ps4. Can't really blame them.

[IcicleTrepan]

Pretty sure Wii sold double that of either the PS3 or the 360. PS3 and 360 are for all intents and purposes equal in sales. This is from the worldwide sales figures posted on n4g just a few days ago...

[BigFnHooters]

"This is from the worldwide sales figures"

You mean the 'worldwide sales figures" posted from the 20 year old Xbox fankid who runs the fake vgchartz?

Sorry, we are talking about the real world.

Crazy to think just how badly Microsoft got beat this gen:

* Rushed their console out the door a year early in the US and Japan. A year and a half in Europe

* 200 dollars cheaper than the PS3

* Tens of millions of duplicate consoles sold as Xbox fans rushed out to buy each and every new model with rumors and promises that this new one wasn't garbage

All that and the 360 still ends up in last place.

[stage88]

Amazon UK chart

1. PS4
2. The Last of Us (PS3)
3. Xbone

[pompombrum]

BOOM.. finally I have something where I can say proud to be British.

[indysurfn]

@aiBreeze rofl that was funny. even if you didn't mean for it to be that way.

[MRMagoo123]

hey you should always be proud to be british, england made red dwarf series and the office they are the finest comedy country in the world, they just took a lil while too long to catch the sony train is all.Im not english im australian but i love england a lot i spent about 7 hours walking around the museums in london every weekend when i was living in knebworth.

[jmc8888]

What are you talking about, power wise the xbox one isn't much more powerful than a Wii U.

0.8 TFlops to 1.2 TFLops isn't a big leap from 0.576.

Meanwhile the PS4 will be 1.84.

As you can see Xbox one is more of a competitor power wise with the Wii U. At 1.2 TFlops it's right inbetween, but if they need to downclock it, it clearly goes to closer to Wii U power levels.

Except Xbox One is the most expensive console by $100, and might be twice as expensive as a Wii U.

Plus you can expect another 10 million PS3's and 360's to still be sold.

Xbox One needs to wish it has a Wii U type launch....that would be a major success.

DRM, Spying, most expensive console yet has the power of a $60-80 PC video card.

..and if the chip issues are real and result in it needing to be underclocked add in reliability issues. (plus that $60-80 pc video card goes from matching to easily beating an xbox one)

[SlavisH2]

last time i checked m$ hasn't release any offical specs for cpu or gpu. They only said 8gigs of RAM and 500hdd. So any comments before a offical reveal is just fanboy talk, DAMN!

P.S. Both ps4 and x1 specs say subject to change plus I dont think the final dev kits have even shipped so let just wait and see so we can make a factual statement and not look dumb

[Jazz4108]

Ms has not taken your right away to trade used games. If you have read anything all first party games is business as usual its the third party games that may charge and sony has also said the same thing as they are leaving drm up to the publishers that are not first party. Does anyone not understand this. I talked with several game stores as well that said in the ms email there is no restrictions on trading xboxone used games in at retail. Im not jumping on hating anyone im just trying to give you the facts. Where ms is restricting you is on giving or selling your games to a friend as they have to be on your friend list thirty days. As far as the diffrence in price ms is giving alot more in there package then sony. Im not saying gamers want it but thats the truth. I also do not like the 24 hour check in but my consoles are always conneccted now and my internet is great. I can see this being a issue in alot of places and I think ms needs to change some of these policies but i still think they will do well as the generation goes on but I believe sony will win this gen if things stay as they are now.

[MRMagoo123]

you should maybe do some reading on the policies of MS for xbox one if you think you will be able to resell your games.

[LoveOfTheGame]

People don't seem to realize that the only real difference between the two systems is that PS4 is $100 cheaper and Xbox requires 24 hour check in.

Xbox can play and trade used games, there will be a system to rent and loan, and any fees are left up to publishers.

[kupomogli]

@LoveoftheGame

The difference isn't just the 24 hour check in and $100.

Microsoft themselves released the Xbox One's policies for used games. Here's the policy of lending games.

"Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once."

You have to be friends on Live atleast 30 days. This means that there's no selling the game on Ebay, Craigslist, etc.

The second thing is if you lend the game to someone, it can transfer the license one time. That's not lending. That's giving the game to the other person. You cannot receive that license back. The person cannot give it to someone else. The only thing the person can do is sell it to Gamestop or Best Buy for what's more than likely going to be $1 and then placed back on the shelf for $54.99.

Here's the link to the official Xbox website for proof.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/0...

With the PS4, or literally any other video game system in the world(except newer games on PC.) I can lend a game to a friend. I can take it back the next day and play it. Then I can lend it to that same friend again the following day if I wanted to. Unlimited amount of times. You can't do this on the Xbox One.

*edit*

Edited a few things to be more concise.

[NextGen24Gamer]

bragging about being 1st worldwide in console sales seems strange to me. Why? Do you benefit from this?

Being an American, I could brag that my console of choice has dominated in my Country. But what does that do for me?

Is it console sales that matter or money made? Because MS easily makes more money than Sony! Now that's something to brag about!

I just don't understand Sony Fanboy logic. Are you rooting for a corporation?

For me it's simple. I'm a Gamer who loves to play games. I could care less which console sells more units or which is more powerful on paper. I want the next gen state of the art games & gameplay. Xbox for me has delivered and will continue to deliver. MS knew going into this next gen that they wouldn't sell as many consoles as the ps4 even before the price was released. When they made the calculated decision to make it a connected console, they knew they would cut a big chunk out of their base consumers.

But for those like me who don't mind and actually prefer our next gen devices to be connected, we benefit. Next gen isn't for everyone right away. It's expensive for the average consumer and it requires internet. I'm sure Microsoft has a base amount that they predict to sell. They are okay with being the Lamborghini of the video game industry. Sure more people will own the cheaper more easily to jump in type of car....but consumers like me, could care less. Do you think the Lamborghini owner cares that there are more Hondas sold than Lamborghinis? Nope. The market is big enough for all 3 consoles and it gives consumes choice.

The games shown at E3 clearly showed me that xbox will be where the best games will be made.

[DevilishSix]

Hate to burst your bubble, but the Xbox One isn't the "Lamborghini of the video game industry", lol it's more like the Prius of the video game industry. It is significantly less powerful than the PS4 and limits your ability to play, lend, and sell your games. But if your a fan of MS, hay all the power to ya.

[Bcroger2]

Console sales do matter. Why would game developers make games for a console that no one has? Why do up you think ps2 had so many exclusives from 3rd party developers? This is not a car, console sales do matter because without them 3rd party companies would not make games for those consoles.

Xbox one is not like a "Lamborghini," it's less powerful, and you have less consumer rights with games. At least on a Lamborghini you are allowed to trade or give it away ( along with just about every other product) with friends and family if you wish. Just because a console costs more, doesn't mean its any better. If a game is 30$ and another is 60$, does that make the 60$ game the "Lamborghini" while the 30$ one the "Toyota?"

[NextGen24Gamer]

The fact that a console sells units matter, but it doesn't matter which console sells more. Wii sold more consoles, but yet has the least 3rd party support.

The Xbox One will sell a minimum of 40 million consoles...All Connected...

I believe that while Ps4 will sell more consoles due to price their core base...The Xbox One will likely sell more games...jus like this last generation.

I believe that DRM will make games less expensive for the xbox One and its definitely more attractive to developers.

Xbox One looks to have the better launch games and first year games from what I have seen. And I'm not calling the xbox one the lamborgini because of price...I'm calling it the lamborgini due to the features & tech behind every console sold. Kinnect 2, Custom CPU by MS, and their investment in the cloud and their 300,000 servers.

In my opinion its just a more high tech console than the ps4. Sure the ps4 can crunch numbers a little better, but I believe that it won't matter one bit due to the other tech features MS has included in its console to give consumers more than just pixel pushing power (BTW Games looked way better on the xbox One so far) but actually next gen features.

Devs have already stated that more so called power doesn't equate to better looking or playing games. All we can do is play the games and see the games to compare. And just from what I have seen. Xbox One's graphics are mindblowing and the next gen features are exciting.

[NeoTribe]

Thing is id buy a wii u WAY before I bought an xbox one.

[cronaldo7]

will sell out at launch

[Perjoss]

At $399 it really will, got my pre order in, I think anyone who wants one on launch day better pre order too to avoid disappointment.

[i3eyond the Circle]

Day One Edition =/= all pre order available systems.

There wil be a core SKU available for preorder soon. The Day One Edition is an LE.

[i3eyond the Circle]

We'll see more preordereable SKUs soon.

[HurstDarkStar]

that head line confused me when it said Xbox one is no. 2

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

Xbone seems to be having serious supply issues.Everyone of gaf was talking about it last night.Part of the Esram issue MS seem to be having.

I just got back from my local gamestop and she told me she only received 20 PS4 and only a mere 6 xbones to sell.

If MS is really having supply issues on top of everything else then wow lol.I can't see how it could get much worse for them.

[Minato-Namikaze]

Could also mean the downclocking rumors maybe true or they are gonna ship faulty hardware again...i wonder which it'll be.

[hellvaguy]

"Could also mean the downclocking rumors maybe true or they are gonna ship faulty hardware again...i wonder which it'll be."

Wonder if the Blu-ray players will be jury rigged to burn up from sony. That would be a total diabolical plot.

[Drekken]

I read about this and they may actually have to downclock the system because of problems they are having with the Esram.

[jmc8888]

Which then would put the system in the power range of the Wii U.

Fine for the Wii U, but MS doesn't have the operations to support a Wii U powered console....they like to play the powerful game...and they aren't...and this would make that worse.

[Drekken]

Well really what I see as the major problem with this is we know devs already tend to make games even and instead of making games to a consoles strengths they make the game to the lowest common denominator for the weakest console. It won't be that bad unless it actually does have to be downclocked. We will see...

[Ilovetheps5]

My Gamestop got the same amount as yours. They had 6 X1s and 20 PS4s. I preordered a PS4.

[1lawrence]

same with my gamestop interesting my ratio was 40 to only15 xbones

[RM-TatoTiburon]

nice to see xbox one day one edition already sold out and ps4 in first place

[Double_O_Revan]

Got mine preordered!

[jjb1981]

If you ain't first, you're last. *shake and bake*

[wenaldy]

"If you dont chew Big Red then **** you..!"

[S2Killinit]

Playstation 4EVER

[MysticStrummer]

PS4 me

[badkolo]

so ps4 doesnt come out until dec 31, i just preordered and they said dec 31st.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/...
so its not coming out until 2014 basicaly after the holiday giving xbox one a whole month?

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

Just a place holder date.They will announce the official date soon.

Late october - late november if i had to guess.

[hellvaguy]

Ps4 prolly gunna release in the mother country of Japan first like how Nintendo does.

[jmc8888]

Like others said, they've haven't announced it.

Wouldn't surprise me that they beat the xbone to market.

All indications I'm reading is that Sony is far, far ahead of Xbox with everything.

I smell an MS rush job to get the xbone to market this year....because with all the problems they should delay the xbox one launch until spring 2014.

I mean xbox might have the most expensive console not only be weak as hell, but unreliable as well.

Even then they might be losing money per console because of the chip problems.

I think Sony has no problem making this fall. I think Microsoft's date is just a dart board to a calendar and praying.

[MRMagoo123]

If an official date isnt confirmed they always put the last day of the last month of the year so december 31

how in the hell would you even think they would release a console on the 31st of December lmao

Im betting you had all your lil fingers crossed hoping they would release after the xbone too lol there are a lot of rumours saying its coming in october and rumours seem to be right lately.

[badkolo]

nope im a gamer, i want them both same day, thats why i preordered, dont get me wrong, i love sony, i just hate hypocryts, so thats why its easy to be one sided in responces, i like xbox and ps, i hate the way 1 is attacked over the other.

[NeoTribe]

badkolo, if you were a gamer you wouldn't support microsofts corporate thieving bs... Your more of a fool than a gamer. IMO ofcourse :)

[MarcoGT]

Wasn't sure whether to get straight away or wait, after all I have GTA V and GT6 anyway, oh well I just went and spoilt myself and ordered from amazon, plus it's cheaper than I expected and there's drive club that takes my interest.

[alb1899]

I think there wont be any X1 left day one as Ps4

[badkolo]

ok all done ps4 preordered ps4 and xbox one preordered, good times ahead

[ZBlacktt]

Proof that some will go down with a sinking ship just like the captain of it.

[JamieL]

That's true, look at last gen and the start Sony had, and how many people stuck with a company telling you to get 2 jobs to afford their product, and they don't need games to sell them. A lot of people took that raw, while praising them the whole time. The good thing is Sony learned, now look at how bad ass they are. I just hope the same thing happens to MS, even though I do think they came out swinging with the games, and I am interested to find out how these cloud based world’s will work out. Yes MS is making some bad moves in my opinion. The check in every 24 hours thing is a bad idea, for anyone without internet it’s a brick, and that sucks. To me making it useless without internet was dumb, straight up. If I’m 100% honest I still think MS is easier to swallow this gen than Sony’s start was last gen, and Sony’s doing great now. I think a constantly evolving in-game world that doesn’t take much processing power from the system it’s self (if that how it works), can have new content, missions, level’s, and stuff like that updated on the fly, has amazing potential if you ask me. I want both, but Sony is NOT F-in around, and at the same time I think MS is bringing some kick ass new gaming concepts in general. We will see how they work out, but I’m excited. I think this gen is going to kick so much ass. Stop being such a hater man.

[Supermax]

Stop spreading false rumors.ps4 will be out in November.took my 100 dollars off of xbone and put it on ps4.microsoft slaped every gamer in the face with that 499 price,it cost less to make then the ps4 but yet there charging more.gamers have stood up today and slaped ms back.rise up gamers let your wallets do the talking.

[spike]

I don't know if i'm selling it or keeping it.

[first1NFANTRY]

good god some Americans are truly pathetic. i was watching the gametrailers coverage and this is what some M$ fanboy wrote:

WEEDGOD420xXx69: "DO NOT BUY JAPANESE CONSOLES. JAPAN ATTACKED AMERICA DURING WW1. REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR AND THE 9/11. BUY XBOX ONE NOW"

M$ fanboys are the worst kind period.

[wenaldy]

How the f*ck 9/11 has to do with Japanese. LOL

[NeoTribe]

First off don't act like you don't have pathetic morons living on the same dirt pile you are. learn how to speak respectfully. "good god, some PEOPLE are truly pathetic".

[WooHooAlex]

Pre-ordered this morning

[WolfOfDarkness]

Just a reminder :

Xbox 1 has 8gb DDR3 ram - PS4 has 8gb GDDR5 = PS4 wins
Xbox 1 is $499 - PS4 is $399 = PS4 wins
Xbox 1 will ban used games - PS4 will not = PS4 wins
Xbox 1 will require internet connection 24/7 - PS4 will not = PS4 wins
Xbox 1 will be regional Locked - PS4 will not = PS4 wins

EX: Microsoft fan .

[golding89]

lol cmon dude. you have some facts but not all true.

I own both consoles and will probably get both but

Xbox 1 has 8gb DDR3 ram - PS4 has 8gb GDDR5 =
PS4 is superior for sure but will not see any difference in gameplay.
Xbox 1 is $499 - PS4 is $399 = PS4 wins
Xbox 1 will ban used games - PS4 will not = Xbox one will not ban used games lol stop lying.
Xbox 1 will require internet connection 24/7 - PS4 will not = Xbox one will not require internet connection "24/7", but a quick signed in everyday is required
Xbox 1 will be regional Locked - PS4 will not = PS4 wins

:-) But overall ps4 have the edge. I just wanted to clarify some things. Don't misinform people :-/

[MRMagoo123]

the ram difference will make games run better and play better so i dont know where you get the idea they will be the same, there will be differences in fps in games to.

[golding89]

@MRMagoo123 "the ram difference will make games run better and play better"? you are very wrong my friend. Have you seen how medal gear 5 looks on the Xbox one? if you do you would know that it won't look ANY different on the ps4.. if you think it will you are just talking out of your ass.. this gen will be just like last gen when it comes to graphics..no huge margin of differences.. yea....

[badkolo]

499 vs 399, you get more with xbox one so obviously it cost more, we dont have any true xbone system info so stop spreading lies, they havent banned used games so again another lie and everyting i use now is always online so who cares and who cares if its region locked, you travel much??

stop lying please, you dont have any specs yet for the xbone 1, you simply dont, and dont point to other sites who also dont have the facts yet.

[jmc8888]

1.2 TFlops is weaker.

The chip problems may force them to downclock or otherwise reduce the power from those low specs.

People are fine paying $499 for a console with graphics power a $60 PC video card...IF they don't downclock it. If they do, that $60 card will be significantly faster than the Xbox One.

[MRMagoo123]

you get more what ? you cant say kinnect because kinnect is part of the xbone cos it wont work without it.So what more do you get with the xbone to cost more ?

[PR_FROM_OHIO]

Pre ordered my PS4 this morning can't wait!!! Not shocked by this really who would want a Xbox1 over the PS4??

[jmc8888]

Those that believe in their corporations and gov't don't lie or spy on them.

Those that don't know specs.

Those that let various IP's, gamerscores, and other trend (see friends) behavior corral them into making a mistake. (but they could start a new trend with their friends...all get a PS4).

Funny enough that many might be open to this...but because they *THINK* all their other friends want a new xbox, they all might buy an xbox...yet all want a PS4...but didn't say anything because they thought all their friends were hell bent on a new xbox when really they might have all hoped they all switched. I guarantee that happens many times. So talk to your friends and discuss a mass switch.

Those that believe always online isn't a problem for them because they're clueless about reality and never heard of hacking.

Those that want to pay $500 for a $60 or less part packaged into a box with a spy machine, insane restrictions, and because they rushed might RROD on them.

Those that like being screwed and like the battered wife..keep coming back for more because they are a glutton for punishment.

...and more.

[Grimhammer00]

Preordered? Screw that! I paid my ps4 off in full!
My GameStop in Toronto had 22 xbones sold out....and ps4 they had no limit!
Which means likely that they weren't told by their regional manager or something.

But I got it done nice and early within an hour of being open.

Though I'd preorder ASAP- these quantities will increase in the coming months. No way a retailer is only selling 22 or 30 consoles in the holiday window.

[phello]

If your not first your last. :)

[Jazz4108]

I preordered my xboxone at gamestop right after the conference yesterday. I was number two on the list so I better get one on launch. I did the same with my 360 and believe it or not its still running to this day. At the time I preordered they were not takeing ps4 preorders until the presser was over later that day. Im sure I will get both at sometime like I did this gen but I have had a great experince with my xbox so im going to stay loyal for launch. Im a gamer at heart but I enjoy playing both systems to be honest so no hate on me for this as I never said one word for people who paid 599 for a ps3 or never brought up paying for online. Im just a gamer end of story.

[darthawesome90]

Did you dip your Xbox 360 "launch version" in liquid nitrogen lol.

I went through six of them, four of which had the Red Ring of Death, one had a problem freezing, and the last just broke. I was so happy I purchased the BestBuy extended warranty. They just replaced them instantly one after the other. Someone else I know went through three of them.

You are one of the luckiest 360 gamers out there.

[Grimhammer00]

I respect that Jazz. I won't point out that supporting MS is supporting anti-consumerism.

Oops sorry.

[moscardini7]

I just last ps4 at GameStop in

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

[moscardini7]

My gamestop sold 120 today

[FITgamer]

"If you're not first, you're last" - Ricky Bobby

EDIT: Phello beat me to it :p

[Master of Unlocking]

Anyone surprised?

[mediate-this]

I pre-ordered both, I am really excited

[ruefrak]

The interesting thing is look at the other best-selling items in Amazon's video game section. Yes, the PS4 and X1 are the top 2, but the PS4 also has the camera, a controller, and five games all in the top 20. The only thing the X1 has is a game right around #30. That just doesn't add up to me. The console is the #2 seller but games are after 30? Huh? So what are all the people buying the X1 bundle going to be playing? I'm calling a conspiracy theory on this one.

[EminenceFront]

I keep hearing people say the XB1 pre orders are sold out but the PS4 pre orders aren't, so I thought I should share with you that when I pre ordered the PS4 at GameStop yesterday I was told that there are way more PS4 pre orders available and the first run XB1's are vary limited. If this it true who knows, I'm just telling you what the people working at GameStop told me. One thing I did find interesting was that the guys working there that were heavy Xbox supporters were only pre ordering PS4's for themselves.

[OllieNator]

This says it all about Micro$oft http://www.youtube.com/watc...