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Will Next-Gen Cripple Nintendo?

"In 2006, Nintendo released a console that many expected to fail and cited the motion control gimmick as a reason as to why. To everyone's surprise, the Wii caught on like a wildfire and retailers couldn't keep them on store shelves..." - Stealthy Box

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iGAM3R-VIII4054d ago

I probably will depending on how Nintendo react by E3 and what path MS take for their next console. Since the Wii U can't take a lot of the new engines it could be left behind.

Wigriff4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

Nintendo will undoubtedly still do well, and the WiiU will have some games on it that will move consoles, even if they do turn out to mainly be 1st party titles. Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid, Star Fox... these are titles just like Star Wars and Final Fantasy; fans will always inevitably buy them, and there is only 1 system you will be able to get them on.

I don't own a WiiU yet, and I am going to be getting a PS4 at launch, but I will get a WiiU eventually for sure.

ijust2good4054d ago

Again, Nintendo will have to depend on Nintendo exclusive games. Wii U is gonna be as successful as GameCube and N64 which isn't that great and they both lost by a massive margin.

Mario's, Metroid's the Zelda's are gonna help sell system for sure but it won't be enough to save it. The Wii U is basically a market for Ninty fanboys. Most popular games are multiplatform. Most third party publishers have caste doubts and also threatened to not support the hardware so the biggest and best games such as the next BF, COD, Mass Effect franchises and many more won't see the day of light on nintendo's platform. Making the console irrelevant to the wider consumer.

Wigriff4054d ago

You realize that "best" is subjective, right? Many people consider Nintendo titles to be the "best" games money can buy. Nintendo may be a niche market now, but it isn't dead by a long shot.

SonyPS44054d ago

How do you know that the Wii U will only sell as much as the Gamecube? Look at the 3DS first year sales and how fanboys on the internet spell doom & gloom but it appears to be an even faster selling handheld than the predecessor.

SilentNegotiator4054d ago

"WiiU will have some games on it that will move consoles... Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid, Star Fox..."

But that leaves them with the Gamecube. It was profitable, but I still doubt Nintendo wants another Gamecube after printing money with the Wii.

Spoon_4054d ago

Release the Ultra Nintendo the powerful successor to the snes now

Ritsujun4053d ago

Wii duUum crushed badly by next-gen engines. =D

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Shnazzyone4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

You do know that even with it's losses nintendo has something like 14 billion dollars to fall back on from wii and ds. With that much money they pretty much can fail with wii u, and still be propped up by 3ds until the next gen.

Not to mention Nintendo is king of aces in the hole. If there's even a possibility of wii u failure. Boom, new LOZ, new 3d mario, new metroid, new console pokemon. System is fine again.

Whenever people write these articles they always seem to forget that nintendo spent almost 3 years of the last gen with a system consistently sold out everywhere that was probably selling for 4 times what it costed to produce. Not to mention holding rights to the best selling hardware of the last decade, the ds.

In the end, thinking nintendo will fail is wishful thinking. Which is why i'm always mystified why sony who's been hurting hardest out of the big 3, never is graced with articles like this except for once in a blue moon.

Where's the articles pointing out the possibility that ps4 is so much like a pc possibly so it fails at the gate like ps3 Sony can simply go multiplat with all exclusives with little or no trouble.

DavePSU4054d ago

It's almost like none of you even read the article.

DavePSU4054d ago

It's almost like you didn't even read the article.

AKR4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

Because N4G is Sony fan-boy haven. That and - it seems like there is manufactured hate towards Nintendo. Everything they do is criticized, time and time again. Even though they usually prove the nay-sayers wrong anyway - so I'm not worrying.

Either way ~ You do speak the truth. If it's ANYONE who's the most likely to *fail* it's Sony. They're finances are incredibly rocky, and can collapse at anytime. If the PS4 sells anything like the PS3 (at a loss) - they may not be able to sustain their gaming division.

But of course - all powerful Sony is to royal and beautiful to have gloom-&-doom articles.

jcnba284054d ago

Nintendo will win next gen, again.

riverstars864053d ago

Nintendo and Microsoft will battle for second place this generation. Sony will be in first for sure.

SilentNegotiator4054d ago

3DS is doing too well for Wii U to really "cripple" them.

Dj7FairyTail4054d ago

Oh so now gaming is all about these things.
Specs
Engines
Power
Graphic
Mature

I sure wished I never joined these gaming sites because gaming back then with N64 and GameCube was peaceful not seeing all this fanboyism, console wars and companies and gamers hating on Nintendo.

SilentNegotiator4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

Actually, a lot of it is about developer support, which is why poor engine adaption is a major problem. Wii U has terrible dev support.

All you did was puke a bunch of tropes that had nothing to do with the comment you were responding to, moaning about "nintendo haters" "specs" "Mature games" etc.

grimmweisse4053d ago

Feel free to leave anytime you want. No one is forcing you to read such articles or through the comments section.

showtimefolks4054d ago

It depends what people count as success or failure, if people expect wiiu to sell as much as wii or even as much as next ps or Xbox than yes it's gonna fail but IMO N64 and GameCube didn't fail even though their respective sales were no where near ps1-2

I think Nintendo is stuck in between last gen and next gen which isn't gonna be good news, when big AAA titles are not releasing on a system ts never a good thing

Nintendo has to do whatever it takes to get the ball rolling 3rd party wise

I will say it again and I know I will be hated for saying this but gamepad is useless, that R&D and money auld have gone towards improving the actual specs of the console, but what's done is done. Nintendo fans are delusional if they within k wiiu will be ale to compete with ps4 or next Xbox. When major engines like unreal 4 aren't gonna run on wiiu you now it's jot net ge

So Nintendo will do the best it can and I see wiiu selling 45-60 million unites lifetime

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Scots4051d ago

It will be the most interesting E3 we've had in a few years - that is for sure.

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LordHiggens4054d ago

My guess is unfortunately yes, as the new ps4 and xbox realize their potential over the years eventually the Wii U will be left behind.

SonyPS44054d ago

Nobody really knows that, though. For all we know all three could do similar in success. That would be great for the sake of the entire industry and the gaming community.

AKR4054d ago

Yeah, uh-huh. Because for the last 3 generations ~ It's been the most powerful console that has taken the top spot.

No, sir . . .

Just ask the PS1 (winner of the 5th-gen), PS2 (winner of the 6th-gen and second best selling game console ever), DS (winner of the 7th-gen handheld division and best selling game console ever) and the Wii (winner of the 7th-gen home console division and third best selling game console ever.

BosSSyndrome4054d ago

Don't forget 3ds slamming Vita.

LordHiggens4054d ago

The DS is a handheld gaming console and can not be held on par with the PS2...and the only reason why it beats the PSP and Vita with respect to the 3DS is that it appeals to the causal user...the child, the elderly, the "on the go gamers". PSP and PSVita trumps it in hardware any day of the week. It also trumps it in games...with respect to the hardcore gamer.

mamotte4053d ago

tsch tsch tsch... you cant go on N4G and put real facts. You'll be bited to death, good sir.

Dj7FairyTail4054d ago

LOL same thing was said for what
Wii
3DS
GameCube

LordHiggens4054d ago

Please the gamecube sold less units than the original XBOX...and that...in and of itself is just sad. The Wii only sold so well because of it's appeal to the casual audience...like I said the shovelware, the kids, the elderly, the "on the go family man gamer". The 3DS...well that's a bit of a mystery to me...why it appeals to so many when it is trumped in every detail hardware wise to the Vita is perplexing to me...but in any case. I don't hate Nintendo...far from it. I just wish they'd take their hardware a bit more...seriously.

Benjaminkno4053d ago

I'm sorry, I was just playing the best version of Need for speed and Black Ops II... what were you saying?

spongeboob4053d ago

I was playing the PC version of those games also. Cool!

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Sharingan_no_Kakashi4054d ago

they still got the handheld market held pretty tightly. I don't see the wii u getting much more traction... unless it somehow manages to get a really popular third party title as an exclusive..... so yea basically they're screwed.

NYC_Gamer4054d ago

Nintendo will be first to announce a new console again

lilbroRx4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

Nintendo will announce a new console in 5=6 years like they always have.

Whether or not Sony or Microsoft announce one before then is completely irrelevant to Nintendo's business plans and schedules.

So the next Nintendo console will be here in 2017 regardless of anything Sony, Microsoft or anyone else does and Nintendo is not going to stop supporting the Wii U with games until then.

BitbyDeath4054d ago

A good crippling will probably do them some good.
It would be awesome if they took gaming a bit more seriously again.

jcnba284054d ago

Sounds like you're still butt hurt that they won last gen.

BitbyDeath4054d ago

You kidding? The Wii brought more life back into gaming. Young and old. Why you hating on that?

Benjaminkno4053d ago

so... where's the "it would be awesome if they took gaming more seriously"... nevermind

BitbyDeath4053d ago (Edited 4053d ago )

3rd parties, Ninty currently has a big head from winning last gen (same as what happened to Sony after winning with the PS2 the gen before). They seem to think everyone will buy it even if they put the littlest of effort in.

Nintendo need to step off their high horse and start reaching out to find out what they can do to get more devs involved.

The only way they'll start to focus on what they should be doing again is after they get crippled. Hence why it would be good for them.

Mini05104053d ago

lol your tone in this comment and the comment replied to jcnba28 is contradicting

BitbyDeath4053d ago

Thought everyone was on the same page.

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No Man's Sky Is Easily One Of Gaming's Greatest Comeback Stories

Despite No Man Sky's rocky launch, Hello Games managed to turn it into one of the best space exploration RPGs out there.

-Foxtrot6h ago

I hate the whole concept of "comeback story" because at the end of the day it doesn't remove the core issue we had in the first place, that we were lied to, it was disappointing and it launched with bare content to what was promised for years.

Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch but for me if you launch in a terrible state then you had your chance. I can applaud you for what you've done after but at the end of the day there's not much of a choice since most gamers would blank your next product if you ditched your last game so fast, it's not about repairing the game but spending your time repairing gamers trust before you launch your next product otherwise it would be dead on arrival.

With these stories and the games being updated, the only way is up most of the time so of course it's going to improve the game and feel better over all, getting better and better as time passes. No Mans Sky, Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76 etc but then you have games like Anthem, Suicide Squad, Redfall and The Avengers where the devs just clearly moved on, now if they have another product people won't be as exited for it, I mean hell Guardians of the Galaxy was a great game but because of the Avengers it didn't help its sales since people were obviously still sour at that point.

I still think despite the improvements to games like No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk along with being better now overall the games are still not up there to what was promised and hyped as for years.

If we keep celebrating these “comeback stories” then unfortunately it only strongly supports the concept that these studios / publishers can continue to push half arsed broken products out for the sake of quick sales instead of waiting until they are fully finished. We need to condemn this awful behaviour or sadly we lose all voice and power as consumers.

Sonic18815h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I feel the same way about Cyberpunk 2077. I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm not a fan of comeback stories as well. But No man sky developer was a small indie team compared to CDPR. It's worse when it's coming from a AAA developer

Nacho_Z5h ago

"Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch"

You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal.

The reason NMS and HG are held in such high esteem and calling them liars is a weak stance is the amount of work they've put into it, for free. They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted.

-Foxtrot4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

They are liars though...

We are not revising history here, I'm sorry but we're not

They built this game up for years and they launched it knowing full well it wasn't up to scratch to what they originally showed off or hyped it up to be.

"They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted"

And like I said above most of that comes from the fact that if they had just moved on straight away nobody would have supported their next game. They've washed most of that sour taste away after supporting No Mans Sky so now they are doing a new game which more people feel like they can support and get excited for.

Anyway how can you say "You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not" and then make the point that "Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone"

This means that if a small team like this can turn a game around then big AAA games like Suicide Squad, Redfall, Anthem and the like should have been able to do it no problem, oh but that's right they didn't want to put the time or effort into it. They can do it but some people just decide not to.

thorstein6h ago

I really enjoyed it at launch and had every trophy by August 2016.

The experience I had is no longer in the game: It was just me and my ship. It was a survival game and the feeling of loneliness in the universe was pervasive. There was no way to ruin too far from your ship and, in an emergency, you grenaded a hole in the ground to survive.

I miss that aspect, but since then, I love what they've done.

Hugodastrevas4h ago

I'd say it's THE definitive comeback story

TheGamingHounds2h ago

Final Fantasy 14 takes that one imho

jwillj2k44h ago

Oh great another story about the cleanest shirt in a bin of dirty laundry.

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The Holy Gosh Darn: Ozan Drøsdal Talks Dialogue Skipping Mechanics And Why He Hates The Word Quirky

Ozan Drøsdal tells TheGamer about The Holy Gosh Darn, the final part of the Tuesday Trilogy.

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Hollow Knight: Silksong's Follow-Up to Grubs is a Logical Progression

Hollow Knight: Silksong’s new collectible that succeeds the popular Grubs has the potential to deepen the mysteries of the new world.

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