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Cyberpunk 2077 Outperforms PS4 Pro and Matches Xbox Series S on Nintendo Switch 2

Cyberpunk 2077 sees impressive results on Nintendo Switch 2, delivering image quality on par with Xbox Series S and PS4 Pro.

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GoodGuy0914d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Lets you know we basically have a portable ps4.5
Dlss will definitely help too. Quite excited how Nintendo's future 1st party will look and perform especially zelda and xenoblade. And we can finally say goodbye to a lot of games built for 720p finally as Nintendo is always the one behind in hardware power for the whole games industry.

Babadook714d ago (Edited 14d ago )

It’s a portable Series S rather.

VenomUK13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

So performance of Cyberpunk 2077 on the brand new Switch 2 puts the performance on the 2012 PS4 and 2016 PS4 PRO to shame?!!! Well done Twisted Voxel for highlighting this shocking performance disparity - Sony should be embarrassed of itself!

RaidenBlack13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

"Sony should be embarrassed of itself!"
You are forgetting its a handheld.
And even with delayed launch with older specs, the Switch 2 is matching Series S with upscaling is no small feat. And Series S runs same games as PS5, albeit at reduced res and frames.

RaiderNation13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

@RaidenBlack

"You are forgetting its a handheld."

No, we're not doing this. I refuse to allow Nintendo this "get out of jail free" card everytime a 3rd party game runs worse on its hardware vs Sony's and MS'. Especially considering it costs more to buy!

First of all, its not a handheld, its a dockable hybrid! Nintendo is the one who chose this wonky hybrid design, rather than making a real home console. No one made them, so they will take the criticism when game performance is inferior to the competition's. They shouldn't be shielded from this just because this is the path they chose.

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repsahj14d ago

I am definitely looking forward to the next Xenoblade game exclusive to Switch 2.

jznrpg14d ago

That may be the game to get me to buy a Switch 2. I don’t care about third party on Switch 2 at all so I’m waiting for exclusives I would play to pile up some. Xenoblade is one of them, Fire Emblem and Astral Chain type of games.

repsahj14d ago

@jznrpg
Honestly, I'm more excited about the Xenoblade series than Final Fantasy and Tales on PS5. My game time on Xenoblade 2 and 3 is both 300+ hrs each compared to just 150+ hrs on FF games and 80+ hrs on Tales of Arise.

Christopher14d ago

I mean, the thing holding back the Pro is the CPU, not the GPU. It outperforming a 2013 CPU should be the least expectation, IMHO.

rlow114d ago

So it’s on par with the Xbox S….but according to some on here the series S holds back gaming. So what the narrative going to be on the Switch 2? Cricket, Cricket, Cricket………..hmmmmm that’s what I thought

andy8514d ago

Switch 2 has DLSS thats gonna help a lot. Forgetting CP was a last gen game. Let's see if the Switch 2 runs actual new games before running that narrative

DivineHand12514d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Cyberpunk 2077 is not a last gen game. It is a current gen game that was ported to last gen consoles and we saw the result.

That game supports more next gen features than 95% of the games on the market today.

andy8514d ago

Whether or not it struggled it's still a last gen game. That's the way it was originally designed

franwex14d ago

@divinehand

Yeah, so current gen that they made a last gen console for it and marketed it as a ps4 and Xbox one game.

Christopher14d ago

***Cyberpunk 2077 is not a last gen game. It is a current gen game that was ported to last gen consoles and we saw the result. ***

No, it is a last gen game. If it can be played entirely as intended on last gen hardware, then it was designed for that. Zero features other than graphical are missing from the PS4/XBO version of the game compared to any other game. Not even improved AI or the like exists between them. It is a last gen game.

DivineHand12514d ago

@andy85 I highly doubt CDPR wanted to release their game in that state. It got so bad that Sony delisted the game and when it went back up they added a disclaimer for people on PS4.

@franwex that is why they got so much backlash because last gen consoles were not good enough to run the game in a state that matched the footage CDPR was marketing.

@Christopher none of the improvements since Patch 2.0 are available on last gen consoles. That patch brought in many features that are not only graphical and performance improvements. I have linked an article that list some of them
https://gamerant.com/cyberp...

Christopher14d ago

***@Christopher none of the improvements since Patch 2.0 are available on last gen consoles.***

You do realize that this isn't changing your claim that the game was not designed for last gen hardware, right? Future updates not being older hardware compatible isn't the same as what you said at all.

gurp14d ago

still runs at native 720P and less, upscaled to 1080P
that is so last gen
the game might be last gen or in between this gen, but it looks amazing at native 4k on the PC, but I know you cannot compare the Switcheroo 2 to a PC

repsahj14d ago

Borderlands 4 is not a port, but was developed on the Switch 2 along with other versions. Let's check it out and compare it to other versions when they release.

Angyobangyo14d ago

Only consoles players would say CP is last gen

--Onilink--13d ago

Cyberpunk is absolutely not a last gen game. They designed for PC first and then tried to cram it together at the end of the dev cycle and that is why its an absolute disaster.

By that same logic, games like Arkham Knight or Witcher 3 that run extremely compromised on Switch 1 (and in the case of AK, probably one of the worst performing games ever) are basically PS3 level games

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pwnmaster300014d ago

Idk what’s the denial that series S is holding back the stronger series X.

It’s just common sense and the fact that some people won’t except it, it’s pure fanboy logic.
Imagine no series s.
Series X will go crazy man.

franwex14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Imagine how good the games would look on PS5 if it wasn’t for the Xbox series s bro!

Oh they are also releasing the game on switch 1 and ps4? Nah. It’s the series s.

Michiel198914d ago

imagine no consoles, pc would have gone crazy.

It's not denial because games are modular. why wouldn't the base ps5 hold the ps5pro back then? Do you think that if a game is created for ps, xbox and pc that the pc version is just a completely different thing? because there i can set shadows to low, medium, high, ultra without the ultra version having been compromised. Imagine if they could also do that for the completely stand alone console version...oh wait...

The conclusion yall come to: weakest platform that you don't prefer, that's the one that holds gaming back, but if your preferred platform is weaker than another. the same logic doesn't apply. fanboyism in its ultimate form, its gross.

pwnmaster300014d ago

FRANWEX

yes exactly,
Look at my comment history.
I said it before. pS4 held back the PS5. Prime example horizon forbidden west and burning shore.

Oh you didn’t check because your also a fanboy that thinks I’m only targeting Xbox.

pwnmaster300014d ago

Michiel

Uhh no.
There is a lot of Pc only games that look phenomenal and way better then any console games.

Using PC as an argument for a CONSOLE argument is weak move.

The argument for PS5 and pro is also dumb, because PS5 came out first and that’s Sony’s main platform. Pro is just an enhancement for the PS5. They will never make it its prime developing point.

But series X is the main platform and series s is a downgraded version that needs to run just as good as series x??

SERIES X can never truly meat its peak when Series S is holding it down.

Where PS5 can go as high as it can because the Pro is just there for its better version.

I don’t get how you can be in such denial. It’s literally common sense

andy8514d ago

@michiel1989 the base PS5 doesnt hold back the pro because its designed for the base PS5 specifically. It's not designed for the Pro then scaled back. That's why the S holds the X back because its designed for the X

franwex14d ago

Go back and look at my comment history also. I’ve been critical of the FORCED PARITY that Xbox instilled this Gen. I’m critical of the policy, not the console.

But yeah. The point is that all that Gen argument was essentially moot due to the success of the switch 1 and PS4.

Michiel198914d ago

@andy so you think that for pc, xbox and ps5 they create seperate versions of a game?

But ok lets run with your false theory, wouldn't the xbox game just be made for xbox series s and x then and have no effect at all on the ps5 version?

@pwn the consoles nowadays have the same architecture as pc, they create one version of the game and then just make it work on the non-lead platforms. Also you can see for many trailers from the past, they develop the game with way higher settings than it will actually run and then they downscale. Just look at the watch dogs trailer and then how it turned out for example. Also so many things that are wrong with your xbox statement. Who decided that series x is the "main platform", ps5 is main platform cause it came out first but s and x came out at the same time? and the games don't have to run the same on x and s, they need to have the same features. Like the x version can't have splitscreen for a game while the s don't. one can run at locked 60 fps while the other runs between 30-60fps, no problem at all. You know absolutely nothing about it and about general development of games yet S HOLDS THE INDUSTRY BACK!

pwnmaster300014d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Michiel

If you don’t want to believe then it’s fine.
And none of this is my conclusion but the word of other devs.
Why do you think a lot of switch version don’t come out till later?? Because they need to put extra effort into making it work.

Devs literally came out saying they have to take extra precautions when developing for series s, putting in extra resource and time to make it work.

That’s literally called holding back.

If you run a relay race and you have a weaker and slow partner it doesn’t mean you won’t finish the race but you are being held back from reaching your peak.
Slowing progression to a result is literally what holding it back mean.

Your not as knowledgeable as you think you are.
Facts are fact.

Look at horizon forbidden west and burning shores.
That’s the difference when a weaker console isn’t holding back.

And if Series x isn’t the main platform, why do they show the games running on Series X and not Series S, I don’t think I have ever seen them run Series S first before the Series X. Most of the time Series S is shown way later and everyone is just happy it runs at 30 fps.

“But ok lets run with your false theory, wouldn't the xbox game just be made for xbox series s and x then and have no effect at all on the ps5 version?“

That’s why a lot of games run better on the PS5 and no, no developer is going to release a way better version than the other.
They literally say it all the time they strive to make all platform run the same.
Dumb example.

andy8514d ago

Michel1989 i mean in a way. Console versions are much easier and on a similar architecture. That's why when a PC version is decided on for a game its not as simple as changing the settings. Sometimes it takes a solid year for that PC version to come out. And who said the Xbox versions affect Playstation? I didnt. I said the S holds the X back. Nothing to do with Playstation.

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franwex14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The forced parity is holding console gaming back-if Microsoft would’ve been successful with the console.

That’s what the complaint was about. It was dependent on the success of that particular console.

Turned out the Switch 1 was gonna be the one holding back gaming, but that was supposed to fail.

It also turned out that last gen held back console gaming as they still make games for it. That wasn’t supposed to occur either. Hehe

Christopher14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

It's all about the CPU. If most studios aim for Switch 2 for their games, then we're being held back one generation based on a single platform. Least common denominator thing. The Series S is a huge struggle for current generation and the problem isn't that it couldn't do it, it's that it couldn't do it in a fashion that Microsoft would want it to be advertised (very low resolutions and heavily reliant on AI graphic generation).

mkis00714d ago

And ms screwed the pooch with designing it with less ram than it actually needed. Failure in design.

PanicMechanic14d ago

Xbox series s isn’t portable dumbass

ABizzel114d ago

The Series S isn’t holding gaming back anymore, because developers are prioritizing base PS5 as their default console, and flat out skipping Xbox is they have to, or giving the Series S whatever it gets and try to optimize later, which honestly is the approach it should have been, but MS wanted parity.

The Series S was holding back flagship development of games that needed more RAM. It has nothing really to do with the CPU or GPU. The CPU is basically the same as the Series X, and the GPU could have been better, but resolution and lower asset settings can fix that in the majority of games.

The problem with the Series S is many games are starting to need that full 12GB of RAM buffer or they’re flat out unplayable. This is why performance on PC GPUs that are more powerful than the consoles in raster, are at times getting outperformed by base consoles because their 8GB VRAM pool isn’t enough and tanks performance nearly cutting it in half.

So if you have a VRAM cap (less than 10GBs) on a console that’s already has a GPU that’s performing at around 1/3 the performance of the Series X & PS5, the developers game is memory starved, and at the time Microsoft had a parity clause, then yes the Series S was holding back development.

Cyberpunk didn’t have a 60fps option on Series S when it first launched, PS5 and SX did. Developers have left out modes, and now skipped Xbox all together, when their games are also having issues on PCs with low VRAM.

The Series S is going to be the platform developers use to port games to these handheld PCs, Switch 2, etc…. DLSS is what is going to help the Switch 2 out tremendously, because Cyberpunk is a 540p game being upscaled to 1080p thanks to DLSS and why it still looks quality.

OtterX13d ago

I mean for me it's an amazing handheld that can also happen to play on the TV. It didn't replace my PS5 or my PC, but for someone who doesn't have a Steam Deck (or other portable PC), I'm pretty blown away by its handheld performance.

Exvalos13d ago

Switch 2 is also holding back gaming

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Neonridr14d ago

why would the Switch 2 be comparable to a Series X or PS5? It's a fraction of the size.

CrimsonWing6914d ago

Welcome to 2025, where efficiency and architecture matter more than size. The Switch 2’s chip is newer and I’m hoping is way more efficient than the PS4 Pro’s dated hardware. Throw in DLSS and some modern tricks, and yeah, it could absolutely outperform something from 2015. I made the comment because it’s not an impressive comparison, whereas… well, you get the picture.

Neonridr14d ago

@CrimsonWing69 - having something equivalent to a PS4/PS4 Pro in your hands is nothing to scoff at. Go look at TLOU2 running on a Pro and imagine having that on the go. Amazing how suddenly PS4 games are ugly now.

anast14d ago

They want current gen. money for their product.

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ABizzel114d ago

The Switch 2 chip is only newer in release date. Technologically it’s from the same generation of GPUs inside of the PS5 and SX, just NVIDIAs lowest end offering. So it was never a PS5 or for that matter Series S competitor.

Jin_Sakai14d ago

That DLSS magic. Glad Nintendo chose Nvidia.

mkis00714d ago

Well it also costs more because nvidia

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Cyberpunk 2077's 2.3 Update Opens a Pandora's Box the Game Can't Close

Cyberpunk 2077 is getting a new update after developers previously stated it no longer would, bringing the possibility of more still to come.

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hollabox5d ago

I'm hoping the update fixes their poor FSR 3 implementation, and add FSR 4. FSR 2 looks better than FSR 3 in CP2077 by a wide margin. On my 7900XT I just use XESS if I want to add RT at custom 3K resolutions. Already beat the main game, but half way through Phantom Liberty expansion. I would like to get back to it later on this month.

anast5d ago

I have more hours in this game than any other. I would happily put more into it.

MastaMold4d ago

I second this and a PS5 PRO patch too please.

RhinoGamer884d ago

I finished it and had a blast, wish there was a new game + option.

Demon-kun19h ago

I wanna be able to dual wield it would add a decent bit I feel hell if they wanted they could even let us dual wield like knives and swords as well or something just sounds like fun to me

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Cyberpunk 2077 on Switch 2: a cutting-edge game translates well to Nintendo's console hybrid

Few games among the Nintendo Switch 2 launch line-up can match Cyberpunk 2077 in putting the system through its paces. It's a staple of our PC benchmarking suite for good reason: the open world design is a solid stressor for any CPU, while its effects-heavy battles challenge GPU resources as well. This Switch 2 release has clearly been a big undertaking for developer CD Projekt Red too, who produced the port in-house with unique optimisations for Switch 2's ARM-based architecture. It's also remarkably the Ultimate Edition of the game, with both the core adventure and the more taxing Phantom Liberty expansion bundled in - an extra portion that proved too demanding to justify a last-gen console release, and was instead restricted to PS5 and Series X/S, and yet here it is running on Switch 2.

To cut to the chase, Switch 2 offers a truly viable way to enjoy Cyberpunk, either in a portable format or docked under a TV. However, CDPR has shot for the stars in its ambition to include Phantom Liberty as well, and it's here that Switch 2 hits some technical limits - with frame-rates struggling as we explore its newer Dog Town region. Still, that aside, there's a lot to admire in the game's engineering for Nintendo's new console overall, and how competitive it is in comparison with other consoles.

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repsahj7d ago

I am happy for CDPR. Their hard work paid off because the Switch 2 version are always in the top 5 Switch 2 launch game sales.

jznrpg6d ago

Not much launched with it besides ports so it should be expected I guess.

OMNlPOTENT5d ago

I mean.. what did the PS5 launch with? One exclusive in Demon's Souls?

repsahj5d ago

@Omnipotent
Not just PS5, Series X has zero launch games. XD

DivineHand1256d ago (Edited 6d ago )

This may be one of the weakest launch lineups Nintendo has ever had, with Mario Kart being the only first party game, but Cyberpunk 2077 will definitely give you tremendous value for your money.

One tip I can give people who have never played the game is to first read books from the cyberpunk subgenre. This will allow you to appreciate the story much better. If you find yourself asking which life path is the best to take at the start of the game, in this case it is Corpo, Streetkid, and Nomad. You likely don't know enough about the genre, and certain things will fly right over your head. While it is not mandatory, the game will be 10 times better if you read or listen to some books first.

Some books I have enjoyed in that genre are:
Cyber Dreams by Plum Parrot,
Stray Cat Strut by RavensDagger
Tower of Somnus by Cale Plamann
Mist Runner by Nicholas Searcy

If you can only read or listen to 1 book, then I recommend Cyber Dreams by Plum Parrot. It is the closest thing to Cyberpunk 2077.

anast6d ago

Or play the TTRPG which is was based on.

Profchaos6d ago

I'd say its stronger than the switch as Mario kart has a broader appeal than zelda.

It was also a better launch line-up than the gamecube and possibly wii u

DivineHand1256d ago

@Profchaos the WiiU likely had the worst of the bunch which is partly why the system failed.

The gamecube had smash bros melee that launched 2 months after the initial release and that is one of the best games to release on that console. I assume every gamecube owner would be happy with that game.

The switch had Breath of the Wild which is still considered one of the best games of all time. I remember playing through that game and unlocked every equipment, upgraded every equipment to the max, found all the dragons, defeated all the Lynels and completed all the shrines in that game before defeating Ganon at the end. It was a good time from start to finish and made up for the lack of other launch games.

I just think that if they had us waiting that long for the switch 2, they should have more than just 1 or 2 first party games ready within the launch window. If we had at least gotten a trailer for a new 3D mario I would be extremely happy. With the current switch 2 lineup, there is no draw to go out and get it immediately like a new console launch should make you feel. Right now the main appeal is to provide a quality of life update to play switch 1 games.

OMNlPOTENT5d ago

There is also a book directly related to the universe of Cyberpunk 2077, it's called "No Coincidence". I thought it was a pretty good read.

Kornholic5d ago

"One tip I can give people who have never played the game is to first read books from the cyberpunk subgenre."

If somebody gave me this advice before I started my first Cyberpunk 2077 playthrough, I wouldn't have even bought the game in the first place.

DivineHand1254d ago

True because I wouldn't have played it either. It's just that I read those books after playing the game and thinking back, a lot of the motivations of each character started making more sense.

I just wanted to through that tip out there to recommend someone try to understand the cyberpunk genre more before playing. They will get more out of the game.

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badz1496d ago

40 vs 60 fps is not something that I would even consider calling "competitive"

1nsomniac6d ago

Then you don’t know enough about the subject you’re trying to talk about..

badz1496d ago

hahaha...what? are you serious right now? the Switch 2 is not a PC where you can just change the graphical settings to get to 60fps...Unless CDPR released a patch to make it run at 60fps, that is.

As of right now, it's stuck at 40fps at best and that too with DLSS from quite a low base res already. so yeah...it's not competitive.

Profchaos6d ago

100% 40 isn't a arbitrary choice its a strategic choice because it opens up access to supporting technology on the console

Good-Smurf6d ago

DF are Nintendo's occasional bootlickers after that blatant Zelda games ad scandal.
Games like CP2077 are meant to be played on big console or powerful PC on a big screen.
Got to love how they're simp for full price purchase of 5-year-old game and still getting the worst version to play on.

1nsomniac6d ago

Wow you guys don’t let up for a second trying to blame DF for anything you can pick out the sky at any given moment. It’s embarrassing dude.

It’s always DF are bootlickers for Nintendo today, Microsoft yesterday, Sony last week. Make your mind up people… pick a side and stick to it. Sounds so stupid when you’re trying to make a point that some company is biased but that no one can make their mind up who the company is biased towards any given day of the week.

stoney1016d ago

Yep, the amount of hate they get is ridiculous. The funny thing is if you actually look at the comments on their early switch 2 videos people are slating them for not giving it enough praise and constantly comparing it to ps4.

ZycoFox5d ago

They had a "Sponsored by Nintendo" video not long ago, it literally says so at the start.

I trust them for showing frame rate analysis and they're decent for that, but their overall review for Nintendo is overrated, Mario Kart is the same game it has always been.

Really the only one that got close to topping DKR was MKDS.. So it's no wonder it's often ranked as the highest rated Mario Kart.

repsahj5d ago

It's obvious that you're not following DF. In the weeks leading up to the Switch 2's release, didn't you know that DF had so many articles downplaying the Switch 2 because they believed it was far from being more powerful than the PS4?

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anast6d ago

Phantom Liberty is a part of the game. If it can't run it. It can't run the game.

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Review: Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition Is The The Best Launch Title For Switch 2 – Entertainium

Now’s the best time to travel to Night City as Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition is the best pickup on the Switch 2 at the moment.

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