Stellar Blade and Helldivers 2 , How Badly PlayStation Is Fumbling Its Dominance

Helldivers 2 and Stellar Blade have been at the top of the news cycle lately. And no, it's not for good things this time around.

[TwoPicklesGood]

Mistakes are ok as long as they learn from them. Sure they shouldn’t have happened like this but no company is perfect.

[Hugodastrevas]

I'm willing to forgive and forget... After they fix Stellar Blade

[outsider1624]

What's wrong with Stellar Blade?

[Hugodastrevas]

@outsider1624 besides some censored outfits, gore and graffiti after they promised there would be no censorship anywhere, not much.

[MrBaskerville]

Sony can't do much about decisions Shift Up made.

[Hugodastrevas]

@MrBaskerville you expect me to believe the devs launched a game with suits one way while promising they would be uncensored in all regions and then censor it in the day 1 patch and Sony the company famous of pulling stunts like these had nothing to do with it? Come on man, be real.

[MrBaskerville]

@Huugodavestras
If they themselves made these miniscule changes because they prefered it that way, then why should they change it back? It being censorship doesn't make any sense considering every other fucking costume and game out there. But people refuse to use their brain because everything has to be a battle.

Just admit it, this whole retarded thing only happened because the game journalists didn't dunk on the game. Gotta keep the angee flowing, so let's complain about some other stupid thing

God, I wish this energy could be used for something that wasn't idiotic for once.

[Hugodastrevas]

@MrBaskerville censorship is censorship, they promised no censorship in all regions, the only uncensored version is the Japanese one.
It has nothing to do with the amount of censorship, we just want the product as advertised and sold, that's all.

[shinoff2183]

The censorship the devs were speaking of is probably not the same censorship yall been overreacting to.

1 out of 2 ain't bad.

Also did the devs really say this. Did they say it in English could something not have been translated right. Was it Sony or the devs? That it's a question how can you blame one 100 percent.

[VariantAEC]

@shinoff2183
From Game About:
Kr: "- 앞서 창작의 자유에 대해 언급했는데, 그에 따라 이번 작품에서 표현하지 못했거나 그려내지 못한 것이 있나?

김형태 대표: 창작의 굴레가 최소화되는 것이 굉장히 중요하다고 생각했다. 어느 나라든 심의라는 것이 존재하는데, 심의로 철저하게 플레이할 수 있는 연령대를 구별하는 건 긍정적이라고 생각한다. 하지만 최근에는 성인 등급은 성인이 플레이하는 것을 전제로 해야 하는데 청소년 플레이를 전제로 심의하는 경향이 있다. 이런 부분에 대해서 제대로 적용되는 것이 중요한 것이지 내용은 어느 정도 스스로 리미트를 걸지 않도록 자유를 주는 게 좋지 않을까 생각했다."

En: - I mentioned freedom of creation earlier, so is there anything you haven't expressed or drawn in this work?

CEO Kim Hyung-tae: I thought it was very important to minimize the limits of creativity. There is deliberation in any country, and I think it is positive to distinguish the age group that can play certain games. However, in recent years, adult ratings should be based on the premise that adults play, but adults tend to allow on children to play. It is important to apply this properly, and I thought it would be better to give freedom not to restrict content to some extent.

I've been active online on YT in saying that Korea is different, but this guy just wanted more people to play the game. Basically it has an M-rating for non-sexual themes and loads of violence.

Later in the interview...
Kr: "- 데이원 패치를 통해 검열 이슈가 된 의상이 있다. 의도한 사항인가?

김형태 대표: 데이원 패치 이후가 최종 결과물이다. 최종적으로 유저들에게 전달하기 위해 조절한 결과물이 데이원 패치, 혹은 그 직전에 들어가 있다. 의상도 무조건 야하다고 좋은 것은 아니라고 생각하기도 하고 퀄리티를 위해 수정한 부분이다. 그로 인해 에로티시즘이 덜어지거나 강조되는 부분도 있다. 의도된 결과로 보여주고 싶은 최종 프로덕트이다."

- There is a costume that has become a censorship issue through the Day One patch. Is it intended?

CEO Kim Hyung-tae: After the Day One patch, this is the final result. The result meant to be delivered to users is included in the Dayone patch. I think that it's not good to be sexy unconditionally, and it's was revised for quality. As a result, eroticism was reduced or emphasized. It is the final product that I want to show with the intended result.

Kim Hyung-tae says this is the intended result, not censorship he explicitly says sexuality for sexualities sake is basically not healthy, this is part of Korean culture. As I said Korea is more conservative and that's ok.

[isarai]

Problem is we have not seen any signs of them learning anything. Censorship still out of hand, GAAS push is still delaying everything, still leaning on sweet baby inc and their lazy writing. We'll have to wait till Jim Ryans replacement is found and see what their plan is, cause all we have is the temp guy for now

[Extermin8or3_]

There was no fucking censorship. Censorship would have been changing all the outfits. The Devs have Ben clear that a version of the outfit that was not the final version was on 1.00 of the game by mistake and the pre launch patch corrected that, that one skin then covered up slightly more of the main character. Plenty more revealing costumes are there untouched.

[CrimsonWing69]

Hey, tell @Extermi8or3_ you’re the Queen of England. He’ll believe it because you said so regardless of what we see and know.

[lucian229]

Extermin9or3

you live under a rock, the game was censored, blood was toned down and plenty of outfits have cheap patch jobs that look bad because of the rushed last minute censoring, such as clothing being painted on skin rather than an actual texture, when the original didnt have it.

Please actually at least play the game yourself or do research

[Hugodastrevas]

@Extermin9or3 censorship is censorship, it doesn't matter if it's one outfit or all of them.
If it's so small as you say they should have no problem restoring it to normal.

[isarai]

@Extermi8or3_

You do know they've censored plenty of other games, im not even referring to just SB other games like DMCV, LISA, and Doki Doki literature club among dozens of others are also censored only on PS5. They even admitted to censoring by offering a refund, wouldn't need to do that if nothing was changed. Several outfits were changed, and gore was reduced, you can literally prove it yourself by playing it unpatched

[MrBaskerville]

Out of hand?!!! They added 1 mm of fabric. There's bouncy tits and ass cheeks all over the game. There's a skin suit. but they went too far with this extremely minor change, that original costume was too saucy for sony, though they apparently didn't give a shit about the rest. Not to mention nudity in other games. But censorship is rampant, yeah right.

And then there's the blood. Game i super gory, but apparently also censored? If the devs make a change before release, it's censoship.

Sony censored wall running in Cyberpunk. There's a subject for you

[S2Killinit]

Hyperbole to get clicks.

[vTuro24]

Sure they'll learn from it. They'll learn that the way they went about their censorship and forcing a psn account down everyone's throat was bad so they'll do it differently next time so people won't immediately notice and roast them to hell and back for it. Stop defending these dumbass corpos, they're not your friend.

[TreMillz]

I can't believe yall really made because you can't see a virtual vagina..... The blood and gore OK I get that, but cmon now

[MrDead]

Stellar Blade complaints is just a bunch of incels following whoever tells them to be outraged, I have never been so embarrassed to be a gamer than when the Stellar Blade bs broke. Pathetic divorced Dads and incels losing their minds over a small bit of pixilated cloth over the cleavage of a couple of outfits in a sea of of outfits that show you everything.

[Tacoboto]

The outfit I'm wearing in that game is far more revealing than what they "censored".

Unstable fanboys making a victim of themselves for not having the slightest clue what "censored" actually means.

Helldivers 2 controversy - justified. Anger at the MS news today - justified.

Stellar Blade's 10th most revealing outfit getting a bit more cloth - what kind of loser do you have to be to throw a hissy fit over that?

[derek]

@taco, stellar blade "censorship " is the perfect example of the tendency these days by some gamers to use trivial issues to create fake outrage campaigns.

[Demetrius]

Grown men simping over a fictional character lmao just imagined wtf they're doing with the money they make in real life probably onlyfan subscriptions and more, most guys love being slave to women& their bodies lmao

[Eonjay]

Thank you guys for talking sense. The stellar blade thing was all about making yourself into the victim. They don't even realize that it's emasculation to claim harm when their is none. A man doesn't loose it over tiny pieces of cloth on a digital avatar. A man doesn't feel harmed if potential racist comments are removed. A man can accept the decision of others even if it contridicts his own. They aren't men. They are empty shells the internet and scam artists have tricked into victimizing themselves.

[shinoff2183]

Exactly. This is fake outrage, seemingly to bring their politics into this.

[-Foxtrot]

Regardless how you feel on it at it's core they said something was going to be uncensored, people bought it, they found out they censored stuff and they were p***** off.

Maybe be up front with people or how about with Sony's weird censorship rules maybe lay up on it. We can get Abby in TLOU2 being raw dogged by a drunken Owen but some clothing is suddenly bad? It's cherry picking sometimes.

Even an physical art book for a game Tsukihime was censored on PS4 (yet the game was not)

https://automaton-media.com...

[Tacoboto]

I'm gonna take the word of the director over the word of lonely bitter losers crying about digital cleavage.

Again. If you play the game instead of posturing and whining about it, you too can enjoy far more risque outfits than the stupid bunny outfit you're having a tizzy over.

[-Foxtrot]

@Tacoboto

Rather than being an asshole about it, maybe if you re-read what I said above, I agree things are silly but I'm talking about the idea of censorship in general not specific to one game or situation over that said game. Censorship is an issue that's been an issue with Sony for years now and you never know what they'll take aim at next.

[Tacoboto]

Sony's tried taking aim at direct access to titles they list in countries they don't have any intent on actually providing support to.

And yet you're still arguing about cleavage being "censored" from one outfit when there's still more revealing outfits in the game.

I will not be less of an asshole when *this* is the molehill you're choosing to make out to be Everest. You're clearly not playing the game.

[shinoff2183]

There are more revealing outfits in the game though. Why is it this one outfit when there's worse causing so much chaos. It just does t make sense.

As far as censorship I do believe Sony needs to lighten up a bit. Mugen souls never got a release on ps4 because of this but there's a switch port. Wtf Sony. In reality it's not that bad even though I would've bought the game. So I'm kinda in the middle.

This particular issue though I just find dumb asf considering there's worse in the game.

[HankHill]

Divorced dads? What are you on about?

[jznrpg]

Divorced Dads is the best card game ever made

[jambola]

If you need to insult the other side to try and make a point
It just shows how dishonest you are

[MrDead]

I don't need to insult incels to make my point, they're doing it themselves. Hence my embarrassment at being a gamer when the Tater Tots start crying.

[shinoff2183]

Come on dude the other side does nothing but insult. Seriously

[Elda]

Agreed.

[Gameseeker_Frampt]

Incels perfectly describe Stellar Blade and the country that created it. South Korea has the lowest birth rate in the world. Like many Asian countries, misogyny is still a problem and women have pretty much given up on relationships with men. It has gotten so bad that the government has just ended a ban on sex dolls so that the men of the country can have something to screw. Stellar Blade is a product of that environment and it amazes me to think that some want the rest of the world to be more like South Korea.

[shinoff2183]

Is this true? Legit asking

[Gameseeker_Frampt]

South Korea birth rate - https://www.reuters.com/wor...

South Korea ending sex doll ban in 2022 - https://apnews.com/article/...

South Korea 4B movement - https://www.thecut.com/2023...

Over 150 elementary schools have no 1st graders = https://www.koreaherald.com...

[VariantAEC]

@Gameseeker_Frampt
What those articles don't tell you is why this is happening. Firstly, I couldn't find much on 4B from Korean sources online. That doesn't mean this couldn't be a huge movement, it might be but from what I've been able to find it amounts to a news article and a couple (and I do mean a couple) blog posts. Why is this happening in Korea (and also Japan and China)? Poor economy. The same things driving low birth rates in the west along with replacement. The native populations are being replaced by foreigners in the US and across Western nations while economic strife has plagued South Korea for 3 decades. Young college educated women are being told life is bad and they use the few examples of actual violence against women as a means to push up their 4B movement. South Korea had a female president like 4 years ago... women can do most of the stuff men do and men could stay at home. Thing is most women don't want to be the bread winners and those that do are upset they can't be everything. Men aren't everything. We are wage slaves to our women if we can afford to be that we are. It's worse when we can't provide. Women feel like they are forced to do it all and they're forced to do just as much as men in the workforce but still struggle with the reality that if they do get pregnant that businesses don't care. Where do they? Do female led businesses care? Nope. So what makes them think this is the work of tue big bad patriarchy? Marxism. As usual. It's an ideology and like Christianity Koreans are just as susceptible as everyone else.

[Eonjay]

Totally agree!!!!

[jambola]

Tater tots? Incels?
Yeah if you want to have a discussion like a normal human being, feel free
Until then, I'm out and you're weirder than any of the people you mock lol

[vTuro24]

You have no arguments so you go straight for personal attacks. Classic. How deep up Sony's ass is your head? Do take it out every now and then for some fresh air, will you?

[MrDead]

I didn't aim what I said at a person, so where is the personal attack?

"How deep up Sony's ass is your head?" That's a personal attack.

Look kid if you get angry over a bit of pixilated cloth covering the cleavage of two of the least revealing outfits in the game then go outside and touch some grass and ask yourself if it's censorship then why not censor the revealing outfits?

[VariantAEC]

💯 Embarrassed to play to some extent because people are so petty about this anyone who catches wind of the 'censorship' will think it was a game made for perverts in the first place, when that was never the case.

[Knightofelemia]

I just hate the fact I buy and pay for a game rated M and Sony takes it upon themselves to censor a game for me. So Eve wears a little revealing suit don't care. If I wanted to buy the censored version I would buy it for the NES or SNES. Modern women wear more scantly clad outfits then that in a mall, gym, school, the store and other places. As for Helldivers requiring an account should only be tied to Playstation. Ways to kill the hype of a game is to piss the customer off.

[jznrpg]

There is no other version on NES or SNES. Just saying. Also if you bought it physically you don’t have to download the patch if it really matters that much.

[Knightofelemia]

Think about it during the golden Nintendo era what was Nintendo known for when it came to games. I'll give you a hint a difference between Mortal Kombat on Genesis and SNES. Still don't get it it's called censoring.

[Tankbusta40]

He used Nintendo for stuff like refusing red blood in Mortal Kombat etc

[Moegooner]

Sony has nothing to do with Stellar Blade's patch incel.

[Levii_92]

Oh god. Why.. then WHY wouldn't the director of the game just revert the outfits back after the big shitstorm it created and hurt the sales of his own game potentially and also the Shift's Up reputation? Stellar Blade outifts changes has Sony written all over it.

[RNTody]

I get it, you need to detract from all the terrible news going on about Microsoft.

The Helldivers 2 issue is over, fans have already dropped 200k positive reviews on the game as an acceptance that the mistake was rectified. There is no fumbling as the game hasn't failed yet.

Stellar Blade...that's yesterday's news. Try to keep up.

[amazinglover]

You do know not every article needs to be written about the MS fuck up.

In fact this very website has several articles on their homepage discussing the MS fuck up.

So how exactly is this detracting from anything.

[jambola]

Everything negative about Sony is just Xbox fanboys coping apparently

[shinoff2183]

And there's several articles about this.

[Elda]

I'm loving Stellar Blade. The outfits or the censored outfits for Eve doesn't hinder the gameplay or take away anything from the graphics, the artistry, the story or the beautiful music in the game.

[Hugodastrevas]

Nobody said it turned it into a bad game, it's just not what they promised and sold.

[Elda]

Personally for me I don't care about it because it takes nothing away from the most important thing & that is the gameplay in Stellar Blade. My $70 was well worth the purchase like most Sony exclusives I have purchased.

[jznrpg]

We are getting good games at PS. I’ll take these lesser issues over what’s going on at MS.

[Hugodastrevas]

These are completely unnecessary issues that should just get fixed. That's all.

[VersusDMC]

Playstation releases exclusive 3rd party games - they don't count as it's not first party

3rd party exclusive games have problems - Sony is fumbling.

How are they fumbling as they have the most exclusives of all platforms so far this year?

And haven't closed any first party studios this year?

[shinoff2183]

We still don't know if there's any first party releasing this year anyway as it was said no 1st party sequels. Not no 1st party

[VersusDMC]

It wouldn't even matter if they were all 1st party people would still make up shit.

Rise of the ronin is apparently bombing despite team ninja saying it's selling more than the nioh games and it's outselling like a dragon in the us. Nobody cares that princess peach isn't in the top 20 and actually bombing.

Top 5 best selling games of the year in the us include helldivers 2, rebirth and MLB(there's one first party but im sure there's an excuse not to count that...), but Sony is "fumbling".

[anast]

The games are doing well despite. They recovered the fumble.

[romulus23]

Fumble recovered and another touchdown scored.

[Demetrius]

Why are guys so worked up about not being able to see fictional characters body like damn is it that serious, I bet if the protagonist was a male the game wouldn't of sold that much cause it woulda just been another souls game knock off with a mid story, smh I see the reason it sold alot I believe the dev know why smh society evolving backwards, acting a fool over a woman's body is highly ridiculous specially as fully grown men but it ain gone stop that's why onlyfans models make millions off these same dudes lmao

[Hugodastrevas]

Why are people worked up a product they were advertised as uncensored in all regions is censored on the day 1 patch, go figure!

[Eonjay]

Because they are fucking idiots and they don't have a grasp on reality or the idea that the product is a work of art. To them the product is an extension of what they have been told to desire. The Bish is practically naked and these losers can't stop playing victim.

[Hugodastrevas]

@Eonjay people just want the game they were sold as promised. Insults aren't arguments.

[Eonjay]

Bullshit. This is the game I was promised. I played the demo too. Its the experience I was told I would have and I am satisfied with it. We were NOT promised specific outfits. We were promised a competent action game with a hot protagonist and that's exactly what we got. We are not entitled to full disclosure of every decision made on artistic direction. The fact that I have to explain this pisses me off. How entitled can you be. Is the hot girl 'hurting you'? I admit this makes me mad. I don't respect the bitchiness and victim hood over a woman who is already smokin hot. Like what the hell is actually wrong? You can't tell thats freaking weird?

[Hugodastrevas]

@Eonjay I am glad you're happy with your purchase. Despite that the studio head DID promise an uncensored game in all regions, they promoted it like that, they sold it like that. Then they patched censorship. This is an indisputable fact since I have the uncensored unpatched version in the physical copy.

[got_dam]

Sony has to test their fan's goodwill every now and then. They do it every few years. Test the water and see what they can get away with.

[Eonjay]

This.

[shinoff2183]

Then wtf do you call what Ms has been doing. Stabbing it's base?

[got_dam]

Whataboutism aside, yes. That is what I would call it. Quicker people figure out that two companies can both do shitty stuff, the better off the industry will be.

[Redemption-64]

Nothing wrong with SB, just a bunch of incels angry they can't beat off to a design the director wanted. Best Sony/Shift up ignore all of them.

[Eonjay]

It part of the whole victim thing. They probably can't even hold erections if they aren't watching porn

[Elda]

Agreed.

[RiseNShine]

I want to be forgiving with this, that this game exists in this day and age is a miracle and much of that is thanks to Sony, something a few minimally censored costumes shouldn't take away.

[Rikimaru-00]

I can't speak on Stellar blade,but what wrong with Helldivers 2. that game is really addictive and fun as hell. This is one of those website that have nothing to talk about. What shame.

[helicoptergirl]

Speaking of "Fumbles" did ya catch that MS news? Ey?

[Hereandthere]

Knick picking PlayStation exclusives deflection by the usual suspects, to try to somehow drag PlayStation down to xbox's pitiful level of ineptness and them clsong studios. Xbox is as good as dead and buried as a home console, deal with it.

[Flewid638]

Everyone knows its the Down-Bads who ruin everything. I loved every minute of Stellar Blade, but these basement dwellers who never touch grass suck all the fun out of any meaningful discourse around it.

[Dirtnapstor]

You guys whining over the most ridiculous notions of SB "censorship" need to reevaluate your lives. It has zero to do with the game/mechanics/story itself.

You're the type that pauses the screen, providing an optimal view of Eve, thus causing screen burn-in, yes?!
You make gamers look bad. Period.

[Elda]

I concur.