Redfall The Weakest "One More Thing" Yet

Devin Rardin: In the Redfall trailer, there was no sense of innovation, and the trailer itself made us question the kind of game being sold.

[majiebeast]

Nothing will ever beat Nintendo Land fire works, but this is a close second. The game is not getting any views on youtube.

[Orchard]

Nothing will ever beat RIDDDGEEE RACCEEEERRR!

[Godmars290]

This game isn't even a blip on - RIDDDGEEE RACCEEEERRR! - radar. Until there's actual footage, its just another team coop shooter.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

So I'm not the only one who thinks Redfall looks kind of lame? I remember one of the ladies on the post show was acting like it was the greatest thing ever... And I'm like, "what is she talking about?" It looks kind of fortnite-ish with the cartoony characters, and that women's big afro hair?? I mean come on... Some people say it reminds them of Left 4 Dead a bit, but Left 4 Dead is a zombie shooter, how can you compare? Besides, Back 4 Blood is the real next Left 4 Dead.

[Concertoine]

It just blows my mind how Arkane is allowed to get away with their hideous art style no questions asked.

[medman]

What the heck does "afro hair" have to do with anything? You sound like a lame....

[Zeref]

This isn't a left 4 dead style shooter, it's a story based game.

[NeoGamer232]

Honestly it is hard to form a real opinion on this game from the trailer. I liked the humor, the graphics were good, and the premise is interesting. Same with Starfield. When they said tease they really meant tease.

But as for the story and gameplay we don't know much yet, It has potential. Anyone saying it is the greatest ever or worst ever is just being crazy right now.

[OG_TK_Cole]

What does a Black Woman's hair have to do with the making of the game. See this is the stuff that will get you in trouble outside of the Internet. Some of you be saying stuff and dont even realize that your being disrespectful.

[annoyedgamer]

From the looks of it thats the only female with hair.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

So you have a problem with afros? Seems like maybe you don't like a certain group associated with that type of hair style. Of all the things in that trailer that's what you pick out to criticize? Your hair must be stunning...

[Knushwood Butt]

People that hate on the Wii U are obviously afraid of something called PROGRESS.

[Christopher]

This game is getting way too much hate because everyone is jumping on a bandwagon when it showed more in its CGI trailer than a ton of other games announced similarly this year and in past years.

[enkiduxiv]

I think it has more to do with the studio. I personally think Arcane has more talent than any of the other Bethesda studios because of Dishonored and Prey. Immersive Sims never really sell well though and we have to keep daddy Microsoft happy.

[TheOptimist]

Tbh it's a tough competition between Arkane and ID. But Arkane and ID are the only AAA developers I trust right now

[enkiduxiv]

@Banthis I have to admit I forgot about Id. BGS needs to prove its found its mojo again with Starfield at least for me personally, too much monetization going on with that studio lately.

[aconnellan]

I don’t understand. Microsoft’s purchase of Zenimax went through in March. Do you think that Arkane started development on this after March, when such a decision could be dictated?

[ABizzel1]

I think the biggest issue is there are nearly 6 four-player co-op shooter games (most of which are supernatural) all coming out in the next year or so. There are just way too many.

Back 4 Black
Anacrusis
Redfall (the name isn't the best)
Warhammer: Darktide
Contraband
I forgot the other one

[Concertoine]

Yup. We went from a drought of L4D style games to more than i know what to do with. Put that suicide squad game on there too it looks like L4D.

[Christopher]

This optional co-op shooter is the straw on the camel's back, not Outriders, Hood: Outlaws & Legends, Dead By Daylight, Destiny 2, Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76, Strange Brigade, Grounded, Monster Hunter, etc.? And, heck, throw in Indies, and this explodes out grotesquely as there are a ton of co-op-focused games there.

I think people are too adjusted to seeing an expanse of representation of other genres but overlook that this is extremely represented in the industry as well. It's just normally not seen that way or has a slight SP element to it (same with Redfall and Dark Alliance here, btw).

[Zeref]

Redfall and Contraband don't belong on that list,

They're both Openworld.
Redfall is a story based game that has fun coop mechanics.
Contraband is a game based on heists and isn't necessarily a shooter(they said shooting is a last resort and not a focus of the game)

Yes they have coop like the other games but that's literally where the similarities end. The other games on that list are survival focused games.

Are we gonna pretend that all games that have 4 player coop are the same now?

[KillBill]

You put "the name isn't the best" after Redfall but don't put any such quantification to Anacrusis.... really??? lol

What made you think Contraband is in the same category as the other Left4Dead type games? It is only mentioned as co-op but has no given gameplay to ascertain it is just another 4 player co-op game. Looks to me like Contraband would fit more into a Kane & Lynch type game than not.

[shuvam09]

I think you're thinking of World War Z Aftermath. Tbh Redfall is open world, so the closest comparison would be Generation Zero.

[Godmars290]

Likely getting hate for showing what would be an interesting SP ARPG, fighting against a covert vampire conspiracy as it becomes more open, into another post-apocalyptic team shooter that can be played alone. With the especial sore spot of "alone" probably being everyone else being AI controlled.

[Christopher]

The documentation on it specifically cited having a solo spec and mentioned nothing of AI team members. But specifically mentioned teaming up with others with a group spec.

[Godmars290]

Thing is, until actual gameplay is shown, it just another coop shooter, that's promising a SP shooter campaign.

[Zeref]

Have you ever played an Arkana game?

It's not gonna be a mindless shooter, it's a story focused game.

[Orchard]

Author must have watched a different E3 from me - I'm pretty excited to see how this game plays and find out more about it.

[-Foxtrot]

I enjoyed the concept with vampires

I enjoyed the fact it was Arkane

I just hated the fact it was ANOTHER 4 player co-op, work together type of game where they say you can play solo but you never know if it's something you can play solo where you'll get the exact same experience or if it's just a mode thrown in to keep people happy. Time will tell but Arkane was always a single player focused studio, even with Deathloop they have an invading feature online wise but it's not full blown co-op.

[Relientk77]

If it was just like Dishonored, but you played as a vampire with cool powers, I would have been totally game. Not a fan they made this 4 player co-op either. That's not Arkane's specialty.

[DJStotty]

"Not a fan they made this 4 player co-op either."

So play solo, smh.....

[--Onilink--]

Also interesting that they are saying its Open World (or city I suppose) as opposed to the more strict chapter approach we see in these games. Though again, its not like the trailer does anything to show how that will play out.

Still though, very interested. If its something more in line with the usual exemplary map design that they do, on a larger scale I suppose, in this Left 4 Dead kind of gameplay style and with Dishonored/Prey kind of powers for combat and traversal (which is what I guess the trailer showed most), it could end up being a really really good take on the genre

[senorfartcushion]

It’s because it’s Xbox and this is N4G. Xbox are bad at exclusives, but this is a good example of a decent one. Yeah, it’s Co-op, but it fills the void of Evil Dead being a silly online-only game. I couldn’t wait for Evil Dead as WWZ is one of my fave games I’ve ever played, and I played that offline like a nerd. ED looked like the perfect co-op follow-up that would have been fun being played alone for a bit, but that concept didn’t leave my head and they’ve made another Dead By Daylight clone.

This could fill the gap for me. Xbox not only are bad at keeping the exclusives for themselves, but they also make some of the biggest microtransaction-filled offenders in the business - mostly Sea of Thieves BUT WITH games. It’s annoying. This game feels similar, but you can play offline. I can relive the WWZ fun on my bill😅.

I play co-op a lot, but none of my mates like Wez 😂

[TricksterArrow]

Oh, no. A company trying different things! Burn them! Burn them all!

Let this game live or die on it's own merits. Don't like it, don't buy it. Someone will and more power to them. It is that simple.

[enkiduxiv]

People are upset because one of their favorite single player devs is currently making two multiplayer coop games (Death Loop and this). I still remember the year Bethesda did the Save Player One campaign. We got four really good single player games from them and they all sold poorly. After that everything was monetized multiplayer garbage, except for Rage 2 I guess.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Yeah but neither Redfall nor Death Loop are multi-player focused or forced. You can easily play them without even having internet.

[aconnellan]

I’m not super fussed on the trailer myself, but I can’t stand N4G’s general approach to CG trailers.

If you say you’re excited, people go “what for? It’s just a CG trailer the game could be terrible”

Yet in the next breath they’re more than happy to say how terrible it looks.

So we’re not allowed to be excited because CG trailers aren’t reflective of gameplay… but we are allowed to criticise it, even though it’s not reflective of gameplay?

Ridiculous

[RosweeSon]

That’s not what I got from the trailer but 😑🤷🏻‍♂️ 🤣 pretty certain this will be top notch being as it’s Arkane but time will tell. Not coming out any time soon.

[Darkborn]

Guys this game was a CGI trailer, you can't hate on it too much until we see more of it.

[oldenjon]

I just don't understand why it needs to exist. It looks like a mish mash of so many different things w/ no real identity

[Levii_92]

Yeah it’s just a CGI trailer people. But what i absolutely hated was the brilliant idea to put the longest CGI tralier of the show with no gameplay at the very end where it should be only reserved for that HOLY SH** moment game with gameplay.

[nmbr1esq]

Like many I'm on the fence. It could be interesting...but am I the only one sick and tired of everything being locked behind 1st person...at least give both perspectives. And don't gimmie the bs that 3rd is not as immersive. Also, similar topic...let's also agree to hang up all zombie games, movies etc., for at least 20 years or more the saturation is unbearable.

[sourOG]

It’s Arkane. A systems based vampire coop shooter could be dope. I didn’t get Arkane vibes from the trailer but their track record is louder. I’d rather a single player game like prey 2 or something similar but I will probably give it a shot.

[bangoskank]

The trailer is awesome. I'm very interested so far but some gameplay would be nice too. Don't see anything to dislike here. Lighten up, people. Games are supposed to be fun.

[BlackIceJoe]

The reason it is getting hate and rightfully so is because people hate CGI trailers that don't do anything to show you what the game will be like.

The only time CGi trailers work is for games like the new Fable, because you know it will be like the old Fable games.

Yet even then people would have preferred to have seen a gameplay trailer instead.

Honestly how hard is it for game developers to stop showing CGI trailers, because gamers for years have asked game companies to stop, doing that.

So hopefully after this backlash game companies will finally wake up and stop with the CGI trailers that, end up not looking like anything the game would have been.

[Christopher]

***The reason it is getting hate and rightfully so is because people hate CGI trailers that don't do anything to show you what the game will be like.***

They showed off character abilities, weapons, enemies, and combat concepts. It's not 100% going to match gameplay, but I don't get how you can say it doesn't show you what the game will be like.

[CantThinkOfAUsername]

Well, you can find the answer in The Outer Worlds 2 trailer. It was simply brilliant.

[-Hermit-]

Yep, this is what people don't get. A CGI trailer from a new IP does nothing for me. You need to show me gameplay or it's meaningless. What am I supposed to be excited about with Redfall's trailer? I have no idea what the gameplay looks like or how it will play, and that is pretty much the only things I care about. I'm not looking for a movie, I'm looking for a game, I didn't see any game here.

A CGI trailer from an already established series is a bit different because people already know what to expect. I would still rather see gameplay than a CGI trailer, but being excited by seeing a CGI trailer for a new Dragon Quest, Yakuza or Final Fantasy game makes a lot more sense because people are familiar with the series.

[PrinceAli]

This is absolutelyyyy facts! loool...

[Traecy]

No hype from me because there was no gameplay just a cgi video.

[masterfox]

trying hard to see what's the big deal about this game.

[DeadManMMX]

K

[EmperorDalek]

Close, but that title goes to Lawbreakers

[Father__Merrin]

Team coop shooter. Bring more single player games. There is zero footage of this so far

[metalgod88]

To be honest, the trailer was cool, but it wasn't a gameplay. Until I see that, I'm not really feeling this one.

[Clover904]

Definitely a poor "one more thing" showing. I think most gamers would agree that cinematic trailers can do a decent job of showing off the tone of a title, but what we really want to see is the gameplay. Especially with a new IP.

[OneLove]

Vampires or werewolves, I'm giving a chance. Don't have many of those games that's are good.

[MasterChief3624]

I thought I was in the minority with being so underwhelmed. It's good that doesn't seem to be the case. This E3 was so... boring. And with Redfall, Guardians of the Galaxy, Monster Hunter Stories 2, and Forza Horizon 5 (even though it's my most anticipated game this year), this year in particular seemed to have a big issue with not knowing WHEN TO END individual presentations. And Take Two's "conference"? Jesus. This was bad. Thankfully Nintendo was great, and even the Summer Games Fest was pretty good, too. Something I wasn't expecting at all. Everything in-between, though? Yikes.

[Docknoss]

Looks like a crap woke Communist manifesto version of L4D2

[Limitedtimestruggle]

Worthless CGI-trash..I don't get why they still pull this crap.

[TheHan]

What do you even mean?

[Limitedtimestruggle]

The "One last thing" being a CG-trailer. The most boring way of ending the conference.

[TheHan]

Definitely worth checking out and keeping my eyes on it as I’m very interested in this exclusive. Can’t wait to see what the developers have planned.

[SCW1982]

This did nothing for me. Only Elden Ring and Metroid got me excited this year.

[QuePasa87]

I have yet to get really excited about this game. Something just doesn't seem to be there from what I've seen so far.