The idea that M$ wouldn't lead this generation would have been a preposterous thought 5 years ago when development on these consoles began. Think about this in terms of 2011-2012 viewpoints. M$ was still kicking sony's butt and was millions of units ahead of Sony at the time. Then lets take the argument often used about how Sony is a bigger GLOBAL brand. I agree. Sony massacred M$ in Japan and Many other non-English speaking countries. Now what does that look like to a developer fr...
The bottom Line is That at the end of a day there is more to a console that just the cpu and gpu and many things to be done that require processing cycles and with less than 7% real world difference in years 2-4 we will see the resolution gate put to an end and games begin to look and behave very similar on both consoles.
For all of you saying that API's don't matter you're wrong and don't understand what they do. Software affect the efficiency of the hardwar...
Listen you sony guys can't have it both ways... flip flopping all over the place. One minute you say they're just like pc's so we can just compare their cpu & gpu and say one is more powerful than the other because they're both x86 hardware like a pc. Even though MS very early on said that you couldn't compare them to PC's and listed the reasons why. "ALL" the Sony world did it anyway. Now when someone points out hey if it's just like a PC then it w...
Listen you sony guys can't have it both ways... flip flopping all over the place. One minute you say they're just like pc's so we can just compare their cpu & gpu and say one is more powerful than the other because they're both x86 hardware like a pc. Even though MS very early on said that you couldn't compare them to PC's and listed the reasons why. "ALL" the Sony world did it anyway. Now when someone points out hey if it's just like a PC then it w...
@rainslacker Listen you sony guys can't have it both ways... flip flopping all over the place. One minute you say they're just like pc's so we can just compare their cpu & gpu and say one is more powerful than the other because they're both x86 hardware like a pc. Eventhough MS very early on said that you couldn't and listed the reasons why "ALL" the Sony world did it anyway. Now when headblackman points out hey if it's just like a PC then it will get...
OK lets address a few things for those that are short on memory or don't understand how things work. Who here remembers 6 years ago when the PS3 specifically the cell chip inside it was used to power a research. A bunch of PS3 owners gave up unused cpu cycles to effectively create a super computer. Now I only bring that up as a proof of concept think outside the box. What M$ has done with the XONE is create a super multitasking unit. Thats why they built it with all those fixed funct...
I'm really tired of the so called secret sauce comments... There is no secret. M$ developed an award winning console in the xone. When information was first leaked about the console developers called it a monster. Describing it as effectively having two cpu's and two gpu's. Now why is that...Well the key word is effectively. Un-like consoles of the past or even most PC's the Xone can't be measured by just its cpu and gpu. Those 15 co-processors do something 7 are de...
Well no disrespect but you are wrong. To be specific you are wrong about tomb raider. Originally, and by that I mean Tomb Raider 1 "WAS" released multi-platform
(Even though it had been rumored to be a Saturn exclusive). Then when it was time for Tomb Raider 2 to come out Sony, being the richest console manufacturer at the time Paid for it to not come to the Saturn( it was a big deal at the time before the internet as we know it today). You'll have to actually look ...
M$ is desperate... just like Sony was desperate after the whole developers don't want to program for the cell chip in the ps3 era, but desperation makes a company humble and that's a good thing. Could you imagine Sony doing all the things they've done this gen if M$ hadn't spanked them last time...nope. I'm glad Sony made M$ eat some humble pie. Now they've improved everything about the platform. So here's what I see happening this gen...Capcom is in serious troubl...
You're right M$ is desperate... just like Sony was desperate after the whole developers don't want to program for the cell chip in the ps3 era, but desperation makes a company humble and that's a good thing. Could you imagine Sony doing all the things they've done this gen if M$ hadn't spanked them last time...nope. I'm glad Sony made M$ eat some humble pie. Now they've improved everything about the platform. So here's what I see happening this gen...Capcom...
You know whats wrong with your argument....the same thing thats wrong with all these copy and paste PS4>X1 arguments from you arm chair developers that can read partial specs but don't have actual access to detailed schematics and wouldn't understand them anyway.
X1 is that it's complicated to program for because you have to do massive amounts of memory management. So here are some actual hardware numbers for you.
X1 47MB Cache ............... PS4...
@ABizzel1
When I said The cheaper, simpler to program console that does more wins. This is how they crushed Sega with the PS1 I was referring to the PS1 vs. the Saturn at $100 more mess. Then the dvd...less Dreamcast vs. the PS2... by the time The Xbox and GameCube came out over a year later the PS2 had already been established. And never forget that when Sony started off they were the interloper that had all the money and were entering the game market not to make games but to make...
Actually the PS3 didn't catch the X360 in the USA There was a 15 million unit difference at one point and it's currently still close to 10 million. The PS3 caught the X360 globally by whipping the piss out of the X360 in other markets like Japan, but it was never close in the states. Also I feel like the only reason M$ isn't on top this gen is because Mattic didn't know his history. Console history consistently predicts that the previous top dog won't repeat. The on...
Actually the PS3 didn't catch the X360 in the USA There was a 15 million unit difference at one point and it's currently still close to 10 million. The PS3 caught the X360 globally by whipping the piss out of the X360 in other markets like Japan, but it was never close in the states. Also I feel like the only reason M$ isn't on top this gen is because Mattic didn't know his history. Console history consistently predicts that the previous top dog won't repeat. The on...
Can we not do the fanboy thing. He has a legitimate concern. Sony didn't support the move on PS3 very well, so past indicates that maybe they'll do the same thing again. Not to mention the cost vs. demographic problem they're going to have, or the split market or Morpheus/ standard PS4 games. Which is what caused the lackluster support for the move in the first place. This thing when all is said and done is going to cost at least $300. And thats assuming is launches next ...
This is just click bait...you're looking to stir up fanboy controversy. As a Gaming News site why don't you report some actual news this is the same article over and over again, and you never have stated what the "FULL" parity clause is or the reason its in place. OK for those that are reading this Microsoft provides it's indies with FREE development tools and support. Sony does not do this as a standard. So Microsoft say's if you take our development tools and ...
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Actually to bring up Tomb Raider was a mistake...When Tomb Raider first came to market and it was supposed to be a Sega Saturn exclusive, Sony was still new but had been out selling the Saturn. When it was time for Tomb Raider 2 Sony secured complete exclusivity for their platform to keep it off Sega's platform. Sony did similar things with the Final Fantasy brand during the original Xbox years. They made similar deals with EA during the Dreamcast y...
Honestly if M$ wants to lose $1.5 billion they can just do a a mid-cycle upgrade to the x1...offering in store exchanges for the new improved version this would be like nothing that's been done b4...Add some $money to the hard ware to the new units with a die size shrink and add 4g of gddr ram, on a second more powerful gpu while clocking both cpu at 2ghz & gpu at 1 ghz for the new SOC...
I think some of you are missing the point...We all have said the PS4 is more powerful than the XOne because of the difference in the Ram....well what is the difference in the ram...the bandwidth that it allows...so M$ used esram to attempt to make up the difference if the following statement is true from the article..."Wii U should clock in at around 563.2GB per second. For comparison, the Xbox One runs at about 170GB per second of bandwidth between DDR3 and eSRAM" then the amount ...
1. Remember that the Switch will be using cartridges and not discs. This means that you don't need as much ram because things can stream in and out of it at speeds that are fart beyond the capability of optical media
2. 32 GB of internal memory is fine for the base unit as you flash/change the contents of a cartridge. This is not possible on optical media and it is also the reason updates/DLC and the like are so big i.e. you have to re-write a ton of code to do something simpl...