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Xbox exclusive Redfall has been in development for five years

It looks like Arkane Studios' co-op shooter Redfall has been in development since Prey: Mooncrash DLC released back in 2017. The full production probably did not kick-off for a couple of more years, though.

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RaidenBlack1047d ago

And they showed a CGI trailer?

King_Noctis1046d ago

“ The full production probably did not kick-off for a couple of more years, though.”

Anyway, I think we might see something during Gamecom or VGA. There are still many months left until the game is released.

shabz6661046d ago

Man considering the release is summer 2022 I also found it odd that it was cgi only. Maybe becoz of covid? 🤷🏽‍♂️

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Notellin1046d ago

What do you think game development looks like? The games are only functional and presentable quite close to the end.

Bathyj1046d ago

God can we stop blaming covid for every case of ineptitude?

shabz6661046d ago (Edited 1046d ago )

@bathyj

Lol I like arkane, wouldn’t really call them inept but maybe coming up with a perfectly functional vertical slice would have detracted from the process of game development and schedule.

Even if it wasn’t a live demo they would still have to make sure all the assets and music and vo are in that 5 mins gameplay chunk and running in top top shape, as we know usually that takes a few months for most studios even before covid, probably it wasn’t worth the time to do that.

Either that’s all because of covid already causing delays in large studios adapting from work in studio to suddenly work at home environment or the game will most likely get delayed from summer 2022.

Tedakin1046d ago

The game is still 12-15 months away. That's a long time.

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NeoGamer2321045d ago

People keep saying this about games MS makes. But, when we look at most games they get CGI Trailers. The only ones I tend to see get true gameplay seems to be mostly action-adventure games. Mostly because they show gameplay well.

But I see a ton of games that don't get much in the way of gameplay trailers. Horizon Forbidden West is about 4-6 months from release and just got its first gameplay trailer. Haven't seen anything from God of War yet. Returnal didn't get a gameplay trailer pretty much until release. I don't know why there is such a microscope on MS showing gameplay trailers. We got Forza Horizon 5 Gameplay, Psychonauts 2 got gameplay, Flight Simulator gameplay, and MS previewed Halo Infinite gameplay last year (yes, graphic fidelity's of characters was not good, but the gameplay itself seemed fun).

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Magog1046d ago

Multi-cultural Zoomer loot shooter #424738

sourOG1046d ago

I laughed but it’s arkane, you have to give them some benefit of the doubt. I wouldn’t be surprised though.

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MadLad1046d ago

People wouldn't be making them if customers weren't buying them.

Jus' saying.

sourOG1046d ago (Edited 1046d ago )

I used to think that was true. “Why would a business alienate half of its consumer base? That’s dumb.” Yet they do it all of the time lol. It’s like they don’t give a shit about profit anymore. They used to be predictable, f*** corporations lol.

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JEECE1046d ago

Sony wouldn't have made PS3 $599 if it wasn't going to sell at that price.

EA wouldn't have released Anthem if its playerbase was going to die.

Nintendo wouldn't have made the Wii U if it wasn't going to sell.

Square Enix wouldn't have made an Avengers game unless it was going to make money.

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Terry_B1046d ago

And after 5 years they were not able to show a bit gameplay?..oookay.

Notellin1046d ago (Edited 1046d ago )

Damn, had they known Terry_B on N4G wanted to see some they might have shown it off. Speak up louder next time.

Darkborn1046d ago

I'm sorry, I thought games, games, games and super confidence meant you had something to show. Look at the original world of Warcraft CGI trailer from like 2004 and then the gameplay. The CGI trailer from then looks better than almost every game today but that game looks like crap, and I played it for years to know. The overuse of CGI trailers means they are not confident in their gameplay or visuals.

Notellin1046d ago

@Darkborn Your example proves my point. They didn't show gameplay early and you loved it. No reason to show gameplay until closer to release.

Michiel19891046d ago

@darkborn no it doesnt. just look at the skin, hairs and pores etc. it was amazing for its time, and even though it still looks good and i enjoy watching it again, for todays standards its pretty bad.

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alb18991046d ago

Maybe....just maybe, they choose not to.

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My Trust in Xbox is on Shaky Ground Right Now

The Outerhaven writes: With multiple gaming studios, including Tango Gameworks, closing, the editor-in-chief of The Outerhaven shares his thoughts on the matter.

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rlow14h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Honestly I was looking back and at the launch of the Xbox 1. With Don Matrick at the helm I was disappointed but therevwas something else. That fighting spirit of Xbox at its inception was lost. They stopped innovating, I lost excitement on what the next big new surprise was, because their weren’t any. Not like Halo 2 and Gears launch. You couldn’t really brag about it anymore.
So here we are and corporate MS has ruined what was a beautiful renegade project.

shadowhaxor2h ago

For everything that Xbox did, I was hopeful it would turn stuff around. Game Pass was a start, and the release of its upcoming titles was a nice way to return. I mean, I'm not going to say it was perfect, just like I wouldn't say PlayStation is perfect. Neither company is, but when Xbox goes and does this, it makes zero sense. The message of Xbox's plan had already had me frustrated, but I was like, "Maybe they'll fix this mess."

Now... yeah. Not so confident anymore.

Aphrodia1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

That's how you know this is clickbait garbage. If you write about games for a living and didn't know Microsoft is a cancer on the industry until now than you are awful at your job.

XiNatsuDragnel4h ago

Xbox will destroy Activision too and Bethesda will be gone too lol

Chocoburger3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

"Right now"?
But not 11 years ago with the disastrous Xbox One reveal which they NEVER recovered from?
Man are you slow on the uptake.

shadowhaxor2h ago

No, Xbox never recovered, but Game Pass (which you're a fool if you deny the success of it), Xbox Cloud, the acquisitions, the reboot of Perfect Dark (which seems to be in the gutter now), the success of Forza Horizon, Sea of Thieves, and yes, Hi-Fi Rush (FFS).

Denying any sort of improvement only goes to show you don't pay any attention to the entire picture.

Crows901h ago

I think you missed the part where these things were spread years apart. Theres no consistency

ApocalypseShadow1h ago(Edited 57m ago)

Bullshit.

Perfect Dark IP was purchased along with many other games like Halo, Gears, etc. Perfect Dark needs help with Crystal Dynamics just to finish the game. That's pathetic. HiFi Rush was purchased and was probably already coming to PlayStation before the purchase.

If Game Pass was a success, these developers wouldn't be closing their doors. We told gamers it isn't profitable. It does make revenue. But revenue isn't profit. It hasn't changed Microsoft's position in the industry or increased hardware sales. If it did, they would be shouting from the rooftops like their arrogant asses always do.

Anyone can have a cloud service. And Sony's is more successful. It took buying major publishers just to increase their spreadsheet. But Xbox continues to fail even then. By having to place games on their competitors platform while still trying to compete. You don't see Nintendo putting their games on Xbox. And Sony was only forced because they don't own the MLB license. Which was forced behind the scenes by Microsoft to take away Sony's successful game and throw it on game pass to use it against gamers buying it on PlayStation. How is the acquisitions a success if they have to close companies they just bought and make many developers jobless? Are you serious? Unless you call it a success by taking away games from other platforms that made those developers more money. That's ridiculous.

Sea of Thieves took years to fix. How is that a success that you have an unfinished game for years that needs fixing? Games should be complete at launch. Just like Halo was an incomplete game that needed fixing. Forza Horizon is a good game but even that game hasn't improved Microsoft's standing at all.

Denying all that shows that you're not paying attention.

Chevalier51m ago

Success? They missed their own targets 3 years straight, stopped announcing numbers because they're so terrible and it's not profitable. Hence the closing 4 studios. There will be more consolidation too. Just watch the by the books garbage yearly releases too followed by more season passes and shorter games come out

Skuletor5m ago

Must be getting their news on Microsoft's Internet Explorer

notachance3h ago

I imagine smaller ABK studios like toys for bob and beenox are now feeling uncertain about their futures

LucasRuinedChildhood2h ago

Thankfully Toys for Bob managed to safely separate from Xbox and are independent now.

notachance2h ago

lol I don't know that, thanks for clarifying

TheColbertinator2h ago

Beenox has been in danger for years now with Activision. Microsoft may act more ruthlessly to them unfortunately.

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Hi-fi Rush is too good a game to be shut down

It was announced today that Tango Gameworks, the studio behind Hi-Fi Rush, will be shut down, which casts doubt on the future of the game.

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z2g12h ago

I’m sure the support and franchise will live on due to its success. They may even keep some ppl and roll them into other studios. There are layoffs across the map tho in the game/tech industries in general tho including Sony, Facebook and more. My personal family has been affected by them.

Lightning7711h ago

No excuses for MS. I guess Hi Fi didn't do as well as we all thought. So Much the for fun Little experiences that MS has been wanting games of all sizes. The thing is MS are so predictable this year they say "oh we want to prioritize bigger games." Next year they'll have more shut downs and say oh well these ballooning budgets of AAA blah, blah, blah. Even though a year prior they said they want more bigger games. When are gonna admit MS can't do or won't do gaming right? It's always waiting for this and that. String you along while destroying ppls jobs. Year in and year out.

Cacabunga8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

MS’ aren’t gamers they are businessmen.. they prefer a terrible game that sells and makes money to a great game with potential and can be used to grow a wider fanbase.. a bunch of crooks 🤮

TwoPicklesGood4h ago

Uhh Sony has laid more % of people off than MS…

notachance4h ago

this MS employee goes around every posts about MS studio closure and made deflecting comments in all of them lmao

Kaii11h ago

Yet MS made a company-wide profit of $22 billion.
In my eyes releasing this on gamepass was a double edged sword approach, received extremely well, but didn't hit w.e batshit insane sales target MS had In mind

jznrpg5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Nothing will sell well when they have trained their fanbase to rely on GamePass. (There could be a unicorn every decade or something like that) The price has to go up a lot or more than likely they close a lot of studios to get upkeep way down and have few studios handle all of the IP and still raise gamepass price just not as much as necessary to keep those doors open for all of the devs that created the IPs MS now owns.

Plague-Doctor272h ago(Edited 2h ago)

The problem is it did seem to hit their targets

https://x.com/aarongreenber...

XiNatsuDragnel10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Hifi is good but Microsoft dislikes risk I guess.

purple10110h ago

have all the people saying m$ buying all those companies, been proved correct yet,

they said more games, more choice, but ended up
less choice, less games, in reality... we were right

Crows905h ago

It sucks to be right sometimes. Love tango works games with evil within. Also huge fan of prey...if redfall had been a single player story driven title I bet your ass they could've done wonders with freaking vampires.

Asplundh7h ago

They developed the highest rated game Xbox has had as a exclusive in years and they shut them down? Doesn't make much sense.

jznrpg5h ago

Makes sense to me. They still have the IP the studios mean nothing to MS

TwoPicklesGood4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It does when it was a nice Indy time that didn’t make money. Unlike you, they think as a business and if the studio made enough money it would have been safe. One of the biggest companies in the world knows not then you, me, or any other random no matter what you abt to believe.

Asplundh2h ago

"Unlike you, they think as a busines"

Yeah a very poorly ran business, the brand has been going down the toilet for over a decade. With all the dumb decision making, it's not suprising why they're going 3rd party.

Plague-Doctor272h ago(Edited 2h ago)

You can't give your games away for free and then shut down studios when they don't sell. Extremely idiotic thinking

Yui_Suzumiya2h ago

I'm pissed about this. I loved Tango Gameworks.

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Bethesda Offering Credit on Redfall DLC, No Specifics at This Time

Arkane Austin tweeted: "Today it was announced that Arkane Austin will close and development will not continue on Redfall.

To everyone that has supported the work from our Austin studio over the years, thank you. Thank you for spending time in our worlds and making them your own.

Arkane Lyon will continue their focus on immersive experiences where they are hard at work on their upcoming project.

Redfall players who purchased the Hero Pass as part of the premium Bite Back Edition or the premium Bite Back upgrade will be eligible to receive the value of the upgrade.

While there will be no further updates, Redfall's servers will remain online for players to enjoy."

FPS_D3TH4h ago

Why was the twistedvoxel article about this failed despite reaching 10 approvals?

Chocoburger3h ago

They're offering credit instead of a cash refund. Yeesh.

More proof people need to stop pre-ordering games which end up releasing unfinished, need to stop supporting live service trash, and need to stop buying Battle Passes before the content is even made. If there ever was a time to learn these lessons, now would be the time.