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Blizzard: We'll never make a game like Skyrim

On the eve of Diablo III’s release, developers Blizzard say they’ll never make an RPG along the lines of Bethesda’s Skyrim. Why? Game director Jay Wilson explains…

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TekoIie4789d ago

“You never see a game like Skyrim come out of Blizzard,” said Diablo III game director Jay Wilson. Why? ”Just because.”

Oh well thank you for clearing that up for us. We can all sleep at peace now...

SilentNegotiator4788d ago

LOL.....like they COULD make a game like Skyrim...

Lord_Sloth4788d ago

You're right. They would never be able to release such a glitch ridden mess and have people still purchase and praise it.

MRMagoo1234788d ago

i dont care what blizz make as long as the wow servers keep going lol i have a free copy of diablo 3 to download and i cant be arsed cos i dont even want it lol

Rival_314788d ago (Edited 4788d ago )

@MRMagoo123:
Is it possible to give someone the code? Like...me?

SonyPS3604788d ago (Edited 4788d ago )

Yeah, "like they COULD".

They're only the most critically, commercially and financially successful game developer in the world, having built a lot of that success on RPGs.

They've only been in the record books for their success in each field. "Like they could make an RPG like Skyrim."

DUHHRRR

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Xristo4789d ago

Well, first let me say that I love Skyrim but one thing I have to admit is that it was released heavily bug-riddened (like most open-world RPGs by Bethesda). Blizzard is a company who releases "generally" bug-free games. Just imagine how long it would take them to test and make a game the size of Skyrim bug-free enough for their standards? By the time they finished testing, Bethesda would of released 3 TES games, lol. Now this isn't saying that Blizzard is a "better" company, I am just a gamer with an opinion on both companies "release" standards from prior experiences. Take my words with a grain of salt, you could have a different opinion....and that is OK :P

kingdavid4789d ago

Tbh I would rather just recieve a game in skyrim's state than have to wait an extra two years just for all the bugs to be eradicated.

Blizzard are almost obsessive with their development.

Drekken4788d ago

You are the reason that a game like Skyrim gets released. FO3 was worse than Skyrim, but 3 years later Bugthesda still couldn't get it right. I will never buy or play another game from them.

Blizzard on the other hand releases perfection and knows how to make their customers happy. I have spent more time gaming in one of the Blizzard worlds than all games combined over my 30 year gaming life.

Xristo4788d ago (Edited 4788d ago )

@kingdavid - I didn't say it in my original post but you said what I was thinking. I 100% agree...

@Drekken - I can see why you are frustrated with Bethesda and you have EVERY right to be. I personally haven't seen game breaking bugs or any bugs that made me so mad that I would never buy another game from them. Personal experiences obviously go a long way. I play on PC, also, where the community has the ability to fix the bugs before Bethesda....If I were on the PS3, it might be a different opinion...

Crystallis4788d ago

ARGG!, no wonder Bethesda is releasing their games with bugs. There should be absolutely no reason any gamer would put up with a company releasing games which are riddled with bugs.

I can see if a company doesn't have a track record but bethesda is known for this.

MysticStrummer4788d ago

"Tbh I would rather just recieve a game in skyrim's state than have to wait an extra two years just for all the bugs to be eradicated."

That is really bizarre to me. I didn't have much trouble with Skyrim on PS3 myself, but a lot of people did. Dead Island was a LOT worse in my experience. I'd rather wait as long as it takes to get a relatively bug free game. I give Bethesda credit for what they try to do, because their games are the closest thing to a true old school, paper and pencil RPG, but damn they need to do a better job with their code.

Voxelman4788d ago

2 years? more like 5. Games the size of Skyrim have thousands of bugs, and without the massive number of people playing the game it would take years and years just to find the bugs let alone fixing them all and fixing the bugs the fixes cause.

Anon19744788d ago

Even with the bugs, Bethesda's games are second to none. Fallout 3 and Skyrim were both masterpieces in my opinion. By far they're two of my top games this gen - and that's with the bugs.

But here's the thing, I never had the bugs in either of those games be more than a passing nuisance. Fallout 3 would crash every now and then. I could easily over look that. Skyrim - other than a mammoth once appearing out of thin air and one lockup, I've easily put 100 hours into each of these games and those were some of the best gaming experiences I've had.

I feel for those who suffered game breaking glitches, I do - but so many act like that was everyone's experience. Bethesda puts out excellent product, and a few bugs doesn't somehow negate that.

Now as for Blizzard, I gave up on them simply because where's the games? I don't do mmo's and other than that, what? Starcraft? I'm supposed to care about Starcraft after I played my last Starcraft game back in '99? At least Bethesda can put out more than 2 games every decade. I'll probably play Diablo 3 if it ever comes to consoles, but if it doesn't, Diablo 2 was so long ago I don't even remember it. I'm old and my gaming time is limited. I could care less about a sequel to some game from 10 years ago.

kingdavid4788d ago

Yep Darkride, what Im referring to.

I did not have any "game breaking" bugs when playing fallout 3 or skyrim. I had the odd thing which affected my game which i got over in 5 mins (ie. being stuck in a wall or freezing a couple of times).

I could understand if I had the ps3 version which is broken but I didnt so how can I complain about it?

I play every bethesda game with the payoff that I know I will get bugs but I still enjoy their games more than 95% of other games on the market.

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Panzerkanzler4788d ago

I agree with what you wrote...but..."would of"...really?

Xristo4788d ago

Typing fast and my grammer sucks... :(

TCG_Returns4789d ago

So basically..

Blizzard: Hey bethesda, don't copy our shit with your online WoW ripoff

tommygunzII4787d ago

Just like every other mmo on the market already did, and now mmo's are almost given away for free. Definitely don't copy the WoW model if you want to make money.

MoveTheGlow4788d ago

They're saying it because they can. Blizzard has been making monster cash for years; why would they have to adopt an entirely different design philosophy to compete with a very distinctive title? They've got a stranglehold on the MMO, the strategy game, and the loot-grabbing action-RPG at the moment, and they're owned by a franchise-inclined megacompany.

Now, these games all started with norm-bucking innovative designs and risk-taking - WoW took so long to come to fruition, and it paid off, for example, and Diablo started rather small. Hopefully we'll see a tipping point for Blizzard where they're forced to once again step out of their comfort zone and do something very different. I hope that starts with their new MMO.

theeg4788d ago

@movethat

blizzard isnt owned by " a franchise-inclined megacompany", i.e. activision, as i assume you meant, it's activision blizzard, you might as well say blizzard owns activision.

they are 1 company with blizzard doing whatever the "f" it wants because WoW makes more money in 1 quarter than 90% of games make in their entire lifecycle.

not to mention starcraft 2 selling 8 million, diablo 3 will likely sell 10 million

blizzard makes every other dev look lazy and like rookies, their games are as near perfection as any i have played and that is due to their obsessiveness in regards to balance, pacing and general quality.

diablo 3 will be GotY without question, just like starcraft 2 was in 2010!

Saladfax4788d ago

Yes, you're generally correct, theeg, but there is absolutely no doubt that the joining with Activision has changed Blizzard's philosophy on many things.

Thankfully, it hasn't adversely affected the quality and design of their products, but it's very clear that monetization has become a high priority for the company, and I think it is occasionally chosen over customer service concerns.

Voxelman4788d ago (Edited 4788d ago )

Actually Blizzard and Activision are both owned by Vivendi which brought Blizzard in 1998 and then went on to buy Activision in 2008. Merging the Vivendi games division with Activision, and Blizzard as a separate division within the Activision Blizzard group.

NeoTribe4788d ago

Starcraft wasn't game of the year... maybe pc game of the year. That's not saying much.

MoveTheGlow4786d ago (Edited 4786d ago )

Whoa, slow down there, Theeg, you made my point and then some. They're making great sequels, they're making money, and they have dudes up top, further up than Blizzard or Activision, that love making money and not much else, and cash is more easily made off of familiar and long-standing properties (see every movie remake out there - it's not necessarily true in practice, but it's the marketing zeitgeist), so yeah. Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 will continue to make money, and they're owned by a giant company that loves its subsidiary divisions to make sequels. It makes sense, money-wise, to keep doing what they're doing. They've got entire genres locked down.

And this post had nothing to do with whether or not Diablo 3 was great, or the quality of future games in comparison to D3. I haven't played games that are coming out in October and November, so there's no way I could determine what the heck wins GotY yet. With Bioshock Infinite out of the picture, it sure is looking like you're right, though.

And again, I hope Blizzard breaks this sequel cycle soon. As you said above, they do a great job, they make a lot of development companies look lazy, it's true! Making a new, amazing game will make every other developer's creative/marketing team stand up and say "You know, maybe we should make an entirely new game!" That'll only help us.

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wallis4788d ago

And the award for the biggest waste of breath goes to this statement. Congratulations you've arbitrarily compared 2 completely differeng companies with completely different games and completely different market and development strategies.

And yet fanboys will STILL debate this stupidity.

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FTC drops case against Microsoft’s Activision Blizzard deal

The FTC has officially dropped its case against Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

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slate9132d ago

The sweet smell of tax dollars burning

Killa7831d ago

From the unemployment this deal caused, no doubt.

Obscure_Observer31d ago

"The sweet smell of tax dollars burning"

They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start. And yet, still, they´d decided to go ahead and double down on their bs to bleed the taxpayer even more.

dveio31d ago

The IRS demands 29bn USD in not paid taxes from Microsoft.

If we're talking bleeding.

1Victor31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

@slate: “ The sweet smell of tax dollars burning “

The smell of political donations endorsements under the table.
There I fixed it it for you
We all knew Microsoft plan of “10 years of all systems publishing “ and some of its supporters happy that after all the games would be “exclusive to Xbox “ now that things have changed and Microsoft got humbled by the lost of money from CoD going down from OVER A BILLI🤑N to
MILLI😩NS the sales failing of games that would released on PlayStation and be forced by INVESTORS asking for their M🤑NEY to grow faster than the next 10 years it is obvious that it would be a waste of money to continue this litigation.
Edit:@obscured: “ They never stood a chance. It was a lost cause from the start “

Same as your grievance stages.
Have you passed the bargaining stage yet ? Or are you still on the anger stage 🤣

slate9131d ago

I knew my singe bipartisan sentence would bring out the crazies. Thanks for the wall

Astrokis31d ago

Not sure if I’m disturbed or entertained but either way I hope you are alright

OtterX31d ago

I think they're convinced now that MS won't (and can't) withhold releases from conpeting platforms. MS on the street corner now like, "Who wants a taste?!"

PhillyDonJawn31d ago

I wont be too sure of that. Gotta wait and see till after these deals expire

OtterX31d ago

That's how it always starts, "I'll just work this street corner for a short while until I get caught up on my bills..."

Tacoboto31d ago

Oh yeah, they're totally gonna make Xbox exclusives again, with the hardware they're totally committed to selling and making available lol

raWfodog31d ago

As far as I'm aware, the only 'deal' that was discussed was for Call of Duty. Xbox had no obligation to make any of their other games multiplatform. They did that of their own accord.

OtterX31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

**btw, I'm talking about street food vendors, just in case there's any confusion!

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Lightning7731d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I've seen videos and talk a online speculating MS long game. Some think that MS multiplat move is use to appease the FTC so they can buy more and is somehow a move that could get Sony to open up their platform. In other words them going third party and letting their games go everywhere. MS possible scheme and ulterior motives, speculated by Jeff Grubb is that putting Xbox store on PS via regulation Which would hurt PS buissness very badly because that 30% cut would be even less or not a cut at all. MS buys more because they're "playing nice" by opening up its platform to Epic store and steam which would force Apple and Sony to open up their ecosystem to other stores like MS.

If that's the case that'll mean as I said before, PS fans buying Cod on PS via MS store would give 100% maybe even 90% of the money being pocketed by MS while Sony's store front wanes when it comes to third party because guess what? MS is buying more third party and preying off the extreme ignorance of the FTC. Manipulation of the FTC and MS overtaking the PS store and customers

My thing is this. I know it's a opinion and speculation but why does Sony have to open up its store or force them to go multiplat? If they still believe in selling their freakin console then let them do it. If they want to provide the best games and the best content for its fans then let them do it!? Why because the competition is trash at selling games and consoles for 14 years now Sony has to change? MS using the ignorance of the FTC to overtake gaming as we know it?

Again it's just talk and opinion but man this seems very, very possible imo.

dveio31d ago

Well, at the time, I actually did think the FTC and CMA did a poor job in court. But also the judge.

Having said that - it is what it is.

If 75bn mergers in any industry ain't a threshold to deny them, then I don't know what is.

As far as your thoughts about other 3rd parties getting taken over in the future go:

I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher.

But smaller studios ... maybe.

However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft.

That isn't to say an announcement of such couldn't drop on Monday already. Because we today know that Microsoft had approached a plethora of other studios in 2018 to 2021, such as IOI, CD Project, etc.

We'll see. And we can't do anything about it. It's up to trade commissions and then probably courts to decide.

Lightning7731d ago (Edited 31d ago )

"I think publisher buyouts are off the list now. I think it would be reeeeally difficult for MS to win another trial try taking over any other publisher."

That's the thing MS is ticking all the boxes by not have anything be exclusive so the CMA/FTC see that they're doing "fair practice" in games and content distribution. Which technically greenlits more aquisions or it makes it easier for acquisitions because MS is a mega publisher now.

"However, right now I can't see studios out there advocating for a buyout from Microsoft."

Hopefully not but them going multiplat could entice Studios to join MS because nothing is not longer exclusive which means more money for them, studio and teams.

We can't do nothing about it but Sony can. They can block xbox games on their console (lose that 30% cut) but Sony won't do that because that's money that will be lost and Sony runs a buissness. That's the only way to hurt or slow down Xbox.

I'm probably over thinking it as I do these things but it's something we shouldn't just ignore and be weary of MS motives here. I'm keeping an eye on them.

Rancegamerx31d ago

The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up. Microsoft’s multiplatform approach is 100% due to past failures and its laughable position in the gaming industry. Their best attempt was a fluke and a lie, brought on by Sony’s missteps and a poorly made machine that broke down too often.

Sony would never allow themselves to be "forced" to do anything; they control their platform and storefront perfectly fine without the need or desire to add an unnecessary Microsoft storefront. Even if, by some flaw on Sony’s part, Microsoft were able to introduce its store on PlayStation, Sony would adapt rather than collapse. Digital storefront competition already exists (Steam, Epic Games Store, Xbox Store), and PlayStation’s business won’t suddenly "wane."

Also, regulators like the FTC don’t operate on ignorance—they actively assess market behavior to prevent monopolies. Microsoft isn’t secretly overtaking gaming with some ultimate scheme. The industry might be changing or shifting (for the worse, in my opinion), but Sony will continue evolving based on market trends, not because of alleged schemes.

Gaming isn’t about one company "playing nice" or another being "forced" to change—it’s about making money with games, something Microsoft has yet to achieve in 25+ years.

Lightning7731d ago

"The idea that Microsoft is manipulating the FTC and forcing Sony to open its platform is silly and has no evidence to back it up."

That's why I said it was all speculation that's what Jeff Grubb opinion. I made that clear several times. You know what's funny? When Jim was in court ppl got mad at the FTC for protecting Jim Ryan instead of the consumer. Maybe he was right to worry about his business. Now look Releasing Xbox games on PS keeps MS studio an a float. Now Xbox games are all over PS now. Maybe Jim was onto something.

MS is still competing with Sony just in a very different way. The FTC back down mainly means they can buy more and MS next steps can proceed. We'll have to see what happens in the future but I wouldn't be so sure on your stance.

InUrFoxHole31d ago

@Lightning77
MS putting games everywhere is the most consumer friendly thing I've seen a game company do.

dveio31d ago

@InUrFox

What does "putting everywhere" actually mean?

This book has so many pages.

• Xbox was dying in revenue
• Regulators put a 10 year deal on CoD
• Microsoft had to give away the streaming
• Spencer himself only offered 3 yrs initially

And most importantly

• Again, Xbox was dying in revenue

Xbox have the benefit of their actual financial situation giving regulators and courts the impression they release games everywhere, what they actually do.

But for reasons they can't be proven guilty of anything in court.

I'm not judging, it's just what it is.

IF the Series generation would have developed differently and was much more successful, I don't hesitate any second to believe in what Spencer had originally planned to do:

• Make everything Xbox exclusive
• We today know that Spencer had also approached Sega, From Software, CD Project, Nintendo, and even Valve was on their list of buyouts.

MS are playing a card here everyone knows why they are doing it.

Putting Doom "everywhere", which even was it already before it got bought, ain't a MS thing.

It would had hurt them in many ways if they'd put it exclusively to Xbox.

But, no matter what - it is what it is.

Xbox bought themselves back into the game. And I think many people just don't have very fond feelings towards this behaviour, wether on corporate nor private levels.

Let's see how they'll run with it.

In 2030, but most importantly after regulations will have expired we will learn better.

Reaper22_31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Seemed like a lost cause anyway. Microsoft gambled and it paid off big time. That's what you call a big boss move. Sony played a huge part in the success of that acquisition.

wesnytsfs31d ago

Bout time. Pointless from the start.

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Skyrim lead recalls Bethesda working their “a**es off” to make the game just 4.8GB

As The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered takes up 125GB, original designer Bruce Nesmith recalls fitting Skyrim into a tiny file size.

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jznrpg39d ago

MS could compress their games on disc

raWfodog39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Skyrim is still my favorite ES game. I’m playing through it again right now since I never finished it.

jznrpg29d ago

Morrowind is by far my favorite. But I’m getting old and played Daggerfall Morrowind and Oblivion before Skyrim

ActualWhiteMan39d ago

Yeah totally. Definitely won’t be hacking it Nintendo 🤞🏻

😏

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Fallout and Skyrim show us that talented developers make great games when you leave them alone

That judicious lack of oversight permeated everything in Bethesda's RPGs, in a positive fashion.

Christopher68d ago

I much prefer a left alone Obsidian and Larian Studios. Bethesda's formula has grown old for me.

anast66d ago

Larian hit another level with DOS:2 and then took it even further with BG3. They do high quality work.

jznrpg67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

Skyrim was a letdown compared to previous games and so was Fallout 4

Kosic67d ago

I agree, I found it an interesting game. But nowhere near worth the hype (unless you include mods)

dmonee67d ago

Skyrim blew my mind when it released. That game took me to the gaming, promisedland. Going back to it when it was updated for the PS5, it felt slightly rough around the edges, but great for its time

TheColbertinator67d ago

We should leave Obsidian alone. Bethesda on the other hand should be kept under constant psychiatric observation.

anast66d ago

Skyrim feels like the game was made in a hurry with a disorganized team.