Microsoft Plans Motion Sensing Controller for Xbox 360

If what XboxFamily is hearing out of Saratoga, California is true, Xbox 360 owners can expect to be playing motion sensing games, much like that of the Wii or PS3, by the end of next year. The details are still sketchy, but it appears a first-party peripheral may be the delivery method of the technology.

[MrWonderful]

just as i expected. M$ to copy something instead of being innovative. such a shame.

edit. im not saying this to start a flame war but they need to focus on that fault @ss hardware they have. Cuz if my elite dies i might just hit them with a lawsuit myself, because that will be the 3rd one

[4D Zangief]

how Sony copied Rumble from the N64, and motion sensing from the Wii. I can really see the innovation in Sony.

Stick to roundhouses Chuck.

[socomnick]

All the companies copy from each other.

[Texas GMR]

If they do something with it, I hope it's to a whole nother level than what is in the Wii or PS3.

Maybe something along the lines of the Head Tracking video that Johnny Chung Lee has put together. That would be cool.

[InMyOpinion]

Like Sony copied Xbox Live and Second Life? Microsoft had motion sensing controllers in 1998, way before Sony.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Scroll down to Freestyle Pro.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

Former Sun Microsystems chief executive Scott McNealy

"Microsoft never produced technology except by buying it. Name one thing they've ever invented on their own? Seriously, name one! If you think of any, send me an e-mail, and I'll research it to find out who they bought it from.... R&D [research and development] and M&A [mergers and acquisitions] are the same thing over there."

[Guwapo77]

Sony had the motion sensing patent first but Nintendo was the first to implement it. Which in turn Sony rushed out to modify it's controllers to use the tech prior to release. As for rumble...that was borrowed from the PC simulation market.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[Regret]

Motion sensing existed waaaaay before Wii in consoles.

[sabbath420]

That is such a lame comment. MS is and has been a innovative co. Dude MS came out with a sidewinder style controller for PC 9 years ago and so I think if anyone copies its sony. As for the hardware I think MS has pretty much patched that 1 up and have given great customer support. Sure the ps3 is a well made system and does not overheat. (jack of all trades master of nothing). Sony has been making hardware for a very long time and should have it down by now. MS is new to the hardware buisiness.

[MrWonderful]

do you even know what the word innovative is? or maybe its 2 big of a word for you to understand, so STFU unless you have a clue what you are talking about.

[B Man]

xbox live wasn't innovative? I beg to differ...

[FPS nut]

And rumble, analog sticks, shoulder buttens, d-pad, video codex, and the whole video game console thing from Atari, Sega and Nintendo? Uh oh, what about using the disc format in games? shame on you Sony for stealing that from Sega CD. You must be 10 years old and think gaming started with the Playstation or your to stupid to realize gaming history.

[Sez]

didn't nintendo start motion sensing in the power glove back in the nes days.

[WilliamRLBaker]

Hence the picture on the article showing a person whispering in another persons ear, RUMOR.

[spandexxking]

about the whole rumble thing didnt you have to buy the rumble pak separatly anyway?

[CodeMonkey1]

Like the junk 6-Axis?

MS may be copying but the difference is they will do it right. 6Axis = teh gay

TANOD is in al aqaeda

[aba]

So is this opposite day? Or are you just a retard?

The only good wii games are the ones that use limited motion control. Sixaxis is a goddamn joke, never use it, probably never will. I want dualshock 3 not garbage. MS doesn't need to copy something so stupid and flawed.

[Blackfrican]

TheChosenOne vs Microsoft. You can take them down!

1. 95% of you are retards
2. why do the other 5% put up with you retards?
3. who the hell cares about companies copying.
4. ALL Companies combine good ideas that other companies had
5. You all defend your purchase way too much

you stupid japs...

[FirstknighT]

These ignorant idiots like ChosenOne didn't even know that motion sensing isn't new. The fact is that Microsoft has had motion sensing games way before the Wii and ps3.

[wind_dragon]

ur wrong! Pelican created the FIRST motion sensing controller (called Tilt Force 2) for the original playstation. =P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[PopEmUp]

Microsoft R&D team should be rename to R&B team cause all they do is research and buy not develop or invented it

[godofthunder10]

i hope that microsoft doesn't put the motion controller in the box when you buy a 360 because i don't want it.i think that it's just a fad and i don't like it but if other people like it just make it so people could buy it seperate off the shelf if they want it.
i'm tired of hearing from sony fanboys about how microsoft never made any thing their selfs.hell microsoft is the one that made the motion controller they had it years ago before the wii or ps3 ever came out,hell microsoft invented most of the programs that computers have on it,as a matter of fact if it wasn't for microsoft we will still be using doss.
fans never give credit where credit is due.hell i hate sony and will never buy a ps3 but i'll admit that it's a good system.i'm tired of hearing about the rrod and how microsoft isn't doing anything about it.the truth is that microsoft is replacing the chip that over heat in all the new systems and every one gets a 3 year warrinty.
when sony came out with their first 2 ps they had hardware problems to,especially with the ps1,hell i had to buy 5 of them in less then a year and a half because it had defected drives.when you put a game in it would read can't read disc,even if it was a new system with a new game.i'm not saying every one that had a ps1 had problems.hell i bought my 360 at launch and i never had any problems with it.
the 360 doesn't have a 75% failure rate as Game13a13y is trying to say and the people that agree with him are just sony fan boys because the fact is that it's a lot lower then 75% and this shows how people can lie about the other system just to try and make the one they have look better.if you count the failure rate of a product by the problems that one person have on it like he's trying to do then i could say that 360 has a 0% failure rate because i never had any problems and i had my from launch.i could also say that the ps1 had a 100% defected rate because i had to buy 5 of them in less then a year and a half because of the defective drives.you don't go by just 1 system.you count all the systems together if you don't know.
like i said before,when the ps1 came out it had a high defecteive rate to,it wasn't high like the 360 but it was as high,it was a 28% defective rate,but sony fixed it in the first 2 years,so why don't people talk about that.i know that the ps3 is a good system and the few people that had problems with it is to few to mention but it took sony 3 generation of consoles to get it right the first time.
Game13a13y claims that microsoft isn't fixing the 360 and he lied about how high the defective rate was.like i said before the truth is that microsoft is replacing the chips with new ones that want over heat and gave every one a 3 year warrinty unlike sony.when sony first came out with the ps1 they had a 28% defective rate but sony didn't give a 3 year warrinty as a matter of fact sony didn't do any thing.if you had a ps and it went out 1 day after 90 days(i think it was 90 i'm not sure,it might be 60 days back then)then you were stuck with it,i should know because like i said i had to buy 5 in less then a year and a half and when i called sony and told them about the drive they told me that they couldn't do anything because the warrinty was over and it was almost a new system,but i'll admit that they fixed the problem in about 2 years.
Game13a13y thinks that he knows every thing but he doesn't know a damn thing.he claims that microsoft isn't doing anything for their customers and they are not fixing the 360.if that's true then why is it that they have articles now about microsoft puting the falcon chips in the new 360 and i like him to name one company that ever gave a 3 year warrinty for an electronic product that's defected or not.he will never find one,microsoft is the only company to ever do it.
it's people like him that post what he wants instead of facts,he trys to make the ps3 look like it's perfect and the 360 is the worse thing that they have.the truth is that they are both good systems with good games,as a matter of fact the 360 does some things better then the ps3 and the ps3 does some things better then the 360 and that's a fact not some wishing thinking like some people post about one system being perfect.
instead of liying, all game fans need to just enjoy the games and be friends with every one and just talk about the games instead of the systems because about 95% to 98% of the games are on both systems.
all the 360 fans want admit it but they wish that some exclusives games that's on the ps3 was on the 360.hell i wish that killzone 2 and some other exclusives was on the 360 because they look like great games and i would buy them the first day that they come out but the ps3 have games that i don't like either like mgs4 because i played mgs before and i don't like them and games like r & c because it's just to childish for me.
all the ps3 fans want admit it either but they wish that some exclusive games that's on the 360 was on the ps3.they wish that games like elvon and might and magic was on the ps3 and i know that the 360 have exclusives that they don't like either.
what i'm saying is that it's just childish to fight about a system just because you have one that you think is the best when almost all the games are on both of them and the graphics are about the same so just enjoy the games and let just be friends and just talk about the games instead of the systems because it's the games that matter and if you have a ps3 the 360 doesn't even concern you and if you have a 360 the ps3 doesn't concern you so just enjoy and talk about the games.

[SlappyMcTaint]

No idea having b1tches trash on everybody else's technology, constantly saying "we won't do it, it's stupid." then once it proves successful, they copy it.

fcking f4gs.

and you xbot lemmings will think it's the best thing since gaylo 3. pathetic.

[BLUR111]

honestly , i would perfer the air flow controller

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

The 360 is perfect how it is.

But I hope they don't start copying the Wii and abondoing real gamers with the Wii mote bullcrap.

[Game13a13y]

perfect as in it doesn't have next-gen format, no wi-fi, and freakin' RROD 75% failure rate?

like someone said before, they should focus on the damn RROD first and foremost instead of tripping themselves with something they can't handle over and over again. lol.

[Blackfrican]

Just like you should finish the laundry b4 you worry about random statistics.

[Game13a13y]

dude its simple math.

take for example, john has his 360 RROD on him for 3 times, that means he has been given 4 360's total, and all 3 of them went RROD, and 3/4 you get 75%

and i'm not saying everyone is on the 4th 360's, but probably somebody has it RROD on them more than 4 times, i'm just taking the average.

so to those people, the dying rate is 75%

[Sez]

why is it that sonyfanboys never keep on subject at hand. they always want to talk about the RROD. when the subject clearly isn't about that.you don't see 360 fanboys post on every sony news about the dre issues with the ps2 or sony batteries exploding laptops. so whats the rate of failure with that.

[Richdad]

I dont know why sony fanboys talk abt it when they know nothing, Microsot takes care of it and replaces it for free till 3 years. That is sufficient and also after that one can do a small and easy X-clamp mod to bring it back if it happened and the percentage is not 75%, you are lying abt it @Game13a13y, its 30% and now this problem has vanished in new models.

[GodofPeace]

any sane person can see it will fail

[InMyOpinion]

I think it depends on the games that will use it. If the games are great it won't fail.

If it gets games like Lair it will certainly bomb and become a gimmick that no one uses, like the Sixaxis.

[Guwapo77]

There is a learning curve with tech like this. And we saw how it failed in Lair. But the newer games like Ratchet and Uncharted use the Sixaxis extremely well. Lets hope they don't write it off with the first games released for it. Look at the Wii's first gen 3rd party games...horrible. The controls perform nothing like Nintendo's first party games.

The only problem I see with this is that the system didn't have this tech in place from the beginning. And history shows add-ons just don't penetrate the already installed user base very well. Microsoft is going to have to totally replace it like Sony did with the Dualshock controller.

[Meno]

You almost sounded objective for a second.

Of course if the games that support it make good use of the technology it will flourish, but to say it has been a gimmick on the ps3 is to ignore the online presence warhawk has and the use it's been put to in Uncharted, Folklore, and RC:TOD. Even DLC like High Velocity Bowling, Flow and Blast Factor have used the technology to great affect.

I don't see a reason to burn MS for following the trend set by Wii & PS3 this generation in making giving the consumer (and developer) more options for controller inputs, but they did originally state that motion control would be a fad, didn't they?

[prodg52]

@Meno, I have a PS3 and a Wii and I feel that the sixaxis is much more responsive than the wiimote. The ONLY advantage that the wii has is the rumble (which is going to change in feb).

Those calling sixaxis a gimick and a copy never tried it (High Velosity Bowling). Sony actually put some thought behind this

[InMyOpinion]

I only wrote the top part first "I think it depends on the games that will use it. If the games are great it won't fail."

But since fanboys disagreed with it I added the rest just for the fun of it.

[ravinash]

I never played lair, so I can't comment on how good it is there.
I learned how to use sixaxis when playing Heavenly Sword and it is actually really good.
its a lot of fun shooting a canon ball and then controlling the movement like this and gives another dimension to the game.
the only other game that uses it a lot is Warhawk, and its great there as well as its gives you more control and frees the joystick to move the target.
I think a lot of the MS fanboys are just up set at the idea because they have been hitting on the sixaxis saying its a gimmick and now (if it is true) they have egg on their face.

[GunShotEddy]

The Xbox 360 could cover every spectrum of the current market. They have hardcore gamers. They've started on casual gamers with the Arcade. If they do this right, it could be an all-around win. For now, I'll stick with my PS3 and Wii. At least I know those two have it mastered already. The 360, I'll have to play by ear.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

Microsoft will force you to buy new controllers to play certain games due to motion sensing!

Edit:

@Jenzo.

Sony did not force me to buy DualShock 3. This is because its a luxury not a must. I can keep playing all PS3 games with Sixaxis (Without Rumble) it not effect a thing. On the other hand you cannot play a motion sensing game without motion sensing controller.

[InMyOpinion]

Just like Sony forces you to buy new controllers to get a much older feature like rumble.

[Guwapo77]

Just like CW said...your not forced to buy it. No game will require you to have rumble to play it. Maybe you won't be forced into buying a motion sensing controller for the X360 either. Like is some of Sony's games you can turn off the Sixaxis feature. Lair...well we all know that was a huge mistake.

[Blademask]

Rumble isn't mandatory to play a game. Neither is a steering wheel. Its just an option, you can buy the one with Rumble, or not. Up to you.

[ScentlessApprentice7]

Sony decided to introduce the Dualshock 3 basically to appease all those b!tching little crybabies that complained about rumble not being available in the SixAxis. Sony listened to the requests of their consumers, and now they are doing something to make them happy.

Sony isn't forcing PS3 gamers to purchase the DS3; If you want rumble that bad, then there it is, if you don't then stick with the SixAxis. It is that easy.

When the hell has Microsoft ever done any of that??? The biggest controversy with the xbox 360 was the RROD and its 33% failure rate which is WAY over any industry standard and they take such a slackend approach to it.

[InMyOpinion]

I'm sure Sony would add 3 years guarantee and repair it for free if they had the same problem. Riiight...Just like they did with faulty PS2's...

Who says you need motion sensing to play games more than you need rumble? Games like Lair could have had optional controls.

[Sez]

hum. you would think with sony laptop batteries exploding on people and he dre prolems with the ps2. sony would want to have a 3 year warrenty. don't you think. and the way sony handle the problem with both issues make MS look way better.

[Meno]

Sony doesn't need to promote a warranty, because they have learned to manufacture gaming hardware that isn't faulty. Bringing up the fail rate for the 360 is getting old, but the fact is that on the other side of the fence, I can count the number of dead ps3 I've heard of on one hand hand still have a finger left to pick my nose.

Microsoft fanboys are a curious thing. They have a number of great games to play on the system, but if it were any other piece of product a wildfire of failures would turn people to the competition. Instead it seems they buy games while waiting for their system to come back in.

I'm all for options, and hope the 360 owners enjoy using the interactivity that the ps3 and wii have been enjoying, because it lends a lot to the experience.

[Sez]

ah. heres were you are wrong my friend. let me enlighten you. sonyfanboys bring up the RROD in every subject that has to do with MS news. but when any 360 fanboy talk about the dre problem they always change the subject or act like it never happened. we all know sony doesn't have problems with the ps3(and thank god) it took three gen to get it right. the ps1 wasn't really a problem only the lid sometimes won't stay close. the ps2. i had 3 ps2 that suffered thru the dre. 2 times i had to come out my pocket to have them fixed. until a class action suit made sony fix them for free. did i get my money back.NO. the only reason why i stay with sony is because of the games. much like the 360 is now. the only diffrence with the two. no judge made them do it. they took the lose on it by putting up 1 billion to fix it. what did sony do with the ps2. they remodel it. so that meant people that owned the first sku suffered or could possibly have suffered thru the problem. hum. again same as the 360. did the xbox have dre problems?No. did the xbox have the RROD? then i guess the xbox was a farely good system. so tell me please any sonyfan or fanboy explain to me why did sony laptop blow up people laptops if they make such great hardware.

[TrooGamer]

Boring!!!

[DrPirate]

Sony did this with Rumble, Microsoft is going to do it with Motion Sensing.

This is an example of not "copying", but rather, how competition is good for consumers.

If the companies have to keep 1-upping each other, we as consummers, will benfit from better products.

Try to keep fan wars to a minimum.

[GunShotEddy]

It benefits us all if you think about. Now Sony and Nintendo have to do something new. We as gamers just keep winning. This really is the best time to be a gamer since the Genesis and SNES battled for consumer dollars.

[Guwapo77]

Oh man your bring up some memories there. Sega sports! But SNES for everything else...

[Blackfrican]

"this is the best time to be a gamer"

you all say that lol. shut the hell up. If it was the best time to be a gamer, couldn't we be playing nfl 2k8?

[PopEmUp]

BTW why your name is Blackfrican since that name tell me that your races against black people and African people

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

So they are gonna add Wii motes. The Wii fad thing, to see if they to can now bank of the Wii's success.

:)

[ben806]

i really hope they dont add it, ps3 motion sensor support is cool for a few psn store games but thats about it.

[Darkiewonder]

Then it would make nintendo turn it up 10 notches. Really, it'll work in the long run.

[INehalemEXI]

Who cares if they atempt a motion sensing control , I dont see it as copying , they may take it to the next level for all we know.

This controller would make Star Wars the force unleashed on 360 the definitive version. If the said controller turns out well.

Seems this could end up being an evolutionary step for the industry that leads to the fabled virtual reality console. Started by nintendo makes sense.

[Skerj]

Ugh royally bad move for MS if this is true. If stuff like this is to be implemented it should be standard for the system line, or else devs won't utilize it and we'd get half assed tacked on motion for games a la 90% of PS3's sixaxis implementation. Nintendo learned that lesson the hard way with the kabillion peripherals for NES and SNES (Powerglove, Uforce, Superscope anyone?) and made every Wii with motion sensitivity. I'm going to take this one with a bucket of salt until otherwise proven true.

[desolationstorm]

I agree with part of your comment, but not all the add ons for nes and snes was theirs. The powerglove had nothing to do with nintendo besides being used on their system. Though you are correct it would be stupid for micorsoft to do this now because that would be like 15 million users or more before this thing would come out that you couldnt count on for deffintly owning the motion sensing controller so it would be tacked on in some games but thats about it.

Same as the rumble for sony but I dont think it is to hard to include so eveyone does it because it is very well liked in the industry.

[Skerj]

Yeah I forgot the powerglove was Mattel's evil doing, you're right sir. As far as the rumble thing goes, you're right on that as well. I thought about that too but they've patched up most of the current catalog for use with the DS3 and all of the new games are built to work with it. It's not as big of a gameplay change as motion sensing is.

[DJ]

Or the underhanded responses from both MS and Sony regarding this. Definitely easier to add motion sensing than force feedback to existing controllers, but it would probably be smarter for Microsoft to NOT go ahead with this idea.

It'll just end up making them look even more like copycats after what they did with the HD-DVD add on, HDMI, and the Elite SKU.

[Blademask]

MS makes more money than god. Motion sensing is a good idea, even for small portions of a game.

Wii has proven it.

Its stupid to ignore it or to try and puff yourself up about how "MOTION SENSING IS FOR KIDS"

Yeah, Kids that broke worldwide sales records.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

[This post was removed due to the fact it will upset TheMART]

[Blademask]

1.How much will the add-on be.
2.Will it require batteries?

[PimpHandHappy]

ring a bell

not to flame this but i just have to say

MS has been behind the curve from day one and if the 360 doesnt reach 30-35million units sold you can bet you wont have a xbox720

[ravenguard88]

despite launching a full year before the competition?

I'd say it was Nintendo not investing enough to make the market early, and Sony failing to properly support BluRay causing the delayed launch. MS expected the PS3 to launch when they launched the 360!

[PeterGriffinSays]

First off, I don't even think its possible to count the number of excessive hardware upgrades and SKUs M$ has made to the 360.

And now by adding "motion sensing controllers" into the mix, they are bluntly copying [Nintendo], the company they have been making fun of for never going to become a success AND that it was not going to be any competition against them.

M$ justs continues to fail don't they?

-HD-DVD add-ons when it should've been included internally
-HDMI should've been included from the start
-33% failure rate? They should've upgraded the heat sinks as SOON as the problem became mainstream
-No built in wi-fi? Come on...

Lemme chill out before all the xBots start attacking me...

[Kylen08]

This aint true, why would MS even bother? its just like they would change the dvd reader to a hd-dvd reader, everyone who bought a xbox controller would have to change it to get the new one.
And dont give me that sony is doing the same thing with the rumble implant, you dont need to go and buy yourself a brand new controller just to play the new games, but if MS would do this it would really piss people off.

[GunShotEddy]

You should read before responding. And no, this isn't an xbot speaking, it's a gamer. Take a break from being a fanboy for two seconds and you'll read that the 360 owners are getting a controller add-on, not a new controller.

Can't we all be unbiased gamers for one day?

[Salvadore]

What MS should do right now is offer consumers 360 controllers with either an internal battery or something of that idea.

[antoinetm]

Rejoice!!

Now the x360 can have its own LAIR!!!!!

[Slayer OP]

And they say they have their own ideas. Tell me wht they invneted on their own without stealing form others? They stole the analog stick, the l2 r2 buttons, the shape of the ps2 controller(they just rounded it a little). The only thing they came up with was xbox live and a further sterotype that all american tech breaks eaisly.

[GunShotEddy]

They continued the evolution of the SNES controller. You must not be old enough to know the Playstation line of controllers are just SNES pads with wings.

And there were analog sticks well before Sony. Ask any pc gamer or someone who played Nights on the Saturn.

[Slayer OP]

Snes never had dual analogs or even a joystick for that matter. I think you mean n64 and that is a joystick not an analog stick.

The PC is different from a gaming console so its hard to say you "stole" something from that because pcs are not of a set brand like gaming consoles are

[Salvadore]

Oh, so your beloved corporation Sony never "stole" anything?

[Slayer OP]

Not anything relevant....

[GunShotEddy]

You also must be a little young. You do know the Playstation didn't launch with dual analog sticks right? That came later in what was called the "dual shock". I'm not ripping on you for being young. lol, we all start out that way. But you should know what you're talking about before chiming in.

Now look at the original Playstation controller and an SNES controller.

Here, have a read and come back later
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[Slayer OP]

I dont see any sign of a joystick on the snes controller......(view image)

I know the ps1 didnt start out with it but it was the first console to use the dual analog. im not that young either. Ive been gaming for about 10 years.

[JIN KAZAMA]

that M$ is working on this?? Im not surprised that they arent working on the VisionCam 2....considering how much better the PSEye is. Damn, M$ is such a low class company. Come on M$, come up with something on your own...oh I know, XBL...that archaic..overpriced..sewer of a community service.

PLAY B3YOND!

[Kyur4ThePain]

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[FPS nut]

As this news drawing out the trolls like you for an entertaining read of stupidity.

I looked at your past comments, you are like a shadow troll. You know what that is? You hide in the dark pop out once in a while to leave an anti MS comment (or anti Sony depending on what side you are on), and then pop back in to avoid losing bubbles.

In other words you are a slime ball of mucus puss filled internet troll filth and you now have scored my number 6 person on ignore. I would rather read TANODS comments.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Actually, the only reason I don't post much is because I have a life outside of gaming, unlike some people.

And are you honestly saying you don't see the irony in this, after all the cr@p people gave Sony for "copying" Nintendo (even though the implementation of their respective motion sensing technologies are completely different)?

You need to look at life with both eyes, kiddo.

@ Jason:

Welcome to the party!

Mmm, HATE is a pretty strong emotion. I wouldn't say I hate MS. I do, however, strongly dislike them for the way they do business. It is not a 360 vs PS3 thing like it is with so many people.
BTW, my home is filled with Macs, thank you very much - don't pretend to know me or my situation.

You dislike Sony for the PS3? Good for you. Care to move along?
I just find the possibility of MS implementing motion controls very funny. A little late to the party and doing what everyone else is doing, as usual. You and I both know why the PS3 didn't have rumble in the beginning. And you also know why Sony had to say what they said at the time - it was a legal matter and they had to be careful what they said. What was MS' reason for not including motion controls? Why now?

Also, please notice how YOU referred to people as xbots, and even quoted it as if I used it in my post.
Nice going there!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

I have known you from the day you joined, you are as anti MS as I am anti PS3. I'm just anti PS3, I don't have any other reason to dislike Sony other than the PS3. You on the other hand are pure anti Microsoft "period" I'm just pissed off at Sony for hyping the PS3 then gimping it for Blu-Ray. What is your excuse? You actualy hate the company and then use their products on your PC. (Weird)

About the article not every "xbot" talked sh!t about motion control, it was the lack of "rumble" xbots made fun of. Most of us Xbots know MS tried this once before and it didn't go off to well. It's a different time now, devs have a reason to use it, they didn't back in 98/99 (check above for the link on when MS tried this)

[GIJeff]

how is having an additional 40GB for game data on a disk gimping the system? did i miss something? RSX is a g71 aka 7900 which trumps the 360s x1600.... look it up on tomshardware.com the g71 is twice as fast in every bench, be it synthetic or in game. MS wants you to think that having 48 shaders is better than having 2 sets of 24. nVidia is leaps ahead of ati. Sorry, i went on a tangent. My point is, all fanboyism aside, the PS3 is a more capable machine. The cell can pump out over 200gflops by itself...

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

tomshardware.com?

Are you serious? is that where your blog hang out to make BS for N4G post is?

No more drugs for you, you are cut off. You are starting to see sh!t that just isn't there. oh wait! your a Droid? ah my bad, Nevermind.

[GIJeff]

toms hardware guide is the single best site on the magical interwebs to compare computer hardware. Dont be foolish. I would like you to find a source, ANYWHERE that says the x1600 is more than half as powerful as the g71. go for it. I dare you.

[darthv72]

look at the original dual shock for the ps1. I got my ps1 when it first came out so I have the original non-dual shock controller. When the ds came out it eventually became the norm. Even to new ps1 owners, they prob never had the opportunity to use a non-ds controller.

Fast forward to the PS3 with the non-ds3 controller. All people talk about is how this controller is what was needed from the start. Guess what, it will be a pack in and new owners will prob never have had the chance to play a non-ds3 controller with the ps3.

Copying or innovation whatever you want to use it is all part of gaming "EVOLUTION". For ms to NOT have a controller that does motion is ludicrous.

[vloeistof]

...

[kewlkat007]

Everybody has copied someone along the way, even though some companies did come out with a couple of things first.

I mean if you were to ask average people they would lead you to believe an "IPOD" is something other then an MP3 player. They somewhat put IPOD in a whole light of it's own. Of course Apple was not the first with MP3 players.

MS did have that sidewinder long time ago...Plus they have this which I can't wait for when this becomes the norm

http://www.popularmechanics...

[nupes98]

THat is some amazing tech. Thanks for the link. Bubbles for you.

[harv052]

Do we see people complaining that more than one company manufactures toilet paper?? I thought not. Corporations have always somehow copied or borrowed ideas from somewhere else. It's still, AGAIN, a stupid fanboy battle ground, and for what? Corporations.

pathetic...

[BloodySinner]

If they're planning on creating a whole new controller with motion sensing, at least create a controller with a GOOD d-pad.

[darthv72]

I second that.

[Xwow]

i have been very loyal to games but to have MS play around the same silly game of i have motion too is abit out of league.
1) XBOX 360 didn't have hdmi at launch and we now what happend afterward(the elite shows up)
2)xbox opted for dvd drive and now we have HD-dvd drives in the form of an add-on
3)we truly welcome ms thoughts in considering the minimal HDD they shipped in 360 to have an elite model 1 year later with a bigger and expensive drive is another story

yet with all the hype sicaxis is getting lately and how boring it is this is unwise desision by the company that brought to you the RRODBOX

ps:should fix that fixmebox first before throughing another crappy add-ons

[darthv72]

What I find amusing is the fact that if it was reported tomorrow that there has not been a RROD case reported in the last 6 mos it would still be brought up that there is a problem. I can recall several game systems of yore that had issues and were fixed and eventually the issues were never brought up again.

Problems happen and I for one am glad MS is taking the steps needed to rectify it. Even though I have never (repeat that...NEVER) had the slightest issue with my 360 (dec 05). I would expect Sony and Nintendo to be just as responsible. Changes to a system after its released is evolutionary by nature. The genesis did not have stereo output through the A/V port. You had to use the headphone jack on the front but eventually they reworked it so there was stereo.

I am not one who has to go out and get the very latest rendition of a system to try and stay ahead of the game. If the system I have plays the same games as the system that is newer on the market...so what. The games are what matters to me.

I do have to admit that I did trade in my original genesis/cd unit for the compact, portable CDX. I liked the look of it. Yet it still played all the same games my original setup played.

[AnalFace]

WHY... its gonna suck just like the Dual Shock controller.

[ThichQuangDuck]

it would be so lame even it was a option it would give some people an advantage and would be gimmicky

[season007]

or maybe they should move their corporation base to China....it helps them achieve it much better

[Killjoy3000]

microsoft will always be followers. theyll never be like the originators(nintendo and sony). theyll just copy everyone elses ideas and pass it off as their own as long as theyre around.

[Onimaycry]

u are absolutetly right Mr. Killjoy Merry Christmas friend

[Bnet343]

I really don't. I can understand for the Wii, but for PS3 and 360 just stick to regular gaming pads. Just look at Lair, that was all motion sensing and it turned out to be very bad.

[kcdude]

The 360 is fine the way it is.

[whoelse]

It wont be the same. I think they should try to be more unique. Grabbing new audiences is easier than trying to steal them from others.

[Chug]

This is a completely original idea!! Way to go M$!!

[MaximusPrime]

LMAO @ the title.

never going to happen. All of their xbox 360 games are FPS. How will u be using motion sensing? LMAO

[BloodySinner]

http://eternalgamenation.bl...

[pwnsause]

that doesnt mean that no one plays FPS, cause last time I seen when I went to my freinds room in college, they were playing an FPS on the 360, just like everyone else who has a 360 %100 of the time, but then again its just me who lives in a an area were everyone is FPS crazy.

[Ikanago]

Even though MS probably has Wii envy (same with Sony), they will NEVER be the Wii of this generation. Some controller with an added tilt function or IR receiver on it is not going to make a dent in the market the Wii has already captured. It's too little Too late for MS.

Heck, the PS3 technically has motion sensing control ability via SIXAXIS and it hasn't added much to the game library.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

This beating below is for the Droids, Merry Christmas and happy hating.

LOL Droids trolling hard today, must be preping for the a$$ beating the PS3 is about to take in Dec game and console sales. LOL they must have logged onto their "free" online only to find 100 or so people playing, because they are all on Live.

What didn't find a real gaming console under the tree Droids? Only found your DVD Player/game console that playes those 2nd rate non AAA sold only 500k games with 5 people online games? Couldn't find a true gaming console like the 360 or Wii do to them being sold out everywhere?

Poor droids have to play that mailbox shapped 400lb console that playes 360's sloppy seconds (POORLY) and most at 30fps with jaggies and washed out color. I wonder will the PS3's attach rate actualy reach 3 this holiday season? LOL we all know it already has a 5/6 attach rate for Blu-Ray movies. Half of PS3 owners (3 million) are online and it's free and 80% online for the 360 (about 10 million) and it's cost $50 a year. LOL that is what I call PWNED HARD.

[Bolts]

Motion sensing is something that should be the focus of the console not some tacked on piece of trash that nobody will use.

[PStriple703]

not surprised

[bigjclassic]

This is an old rumor that started last year. I remeber reading an article where Mr. Gates was saying how he wants motion control for the xbox360. But the controller will end up being like a "sixaxis rip" more than anything.

Nintendo has stated numberous times that the tech behind the wiimote is patented and that competitors cant come out with a direct wiimote rip. So in this area MS would either reinvent motion control (doubt it), or do the "sixaxis rip".

Either way they are going to do it. But whatever......I STILL NEED A REASON TO BUY A 360!!

[Korosuke]

Third party devs do not put thier shoulder to the wheel now.
But if both consoles support motion sensing, devs become to get into it then some funkey devs hit on a hot idea of using motion sensing.

@MaximusPrime
My idea of usgin motion sensing in FPS is to bind it as Lean movement.
Many console FPSs doesn't have lean movement that most PC FPSs have like Call of Duty 4.
It's because lacking the number of buttons in controller, I think.

[hadouken007]

they hate sony but wanna be like them. MS, they on that d!ck huh bra.

[SpaceCowgirl]

Doing this will just make me buy a Wii instead of trying to put up with M$'s shoddy knock off.

[Xemnas]

so who is copping who now ?

[pwnsause]

well lets make a run down of these situations:

MS: we dont Need a HD Disc player on our system

Sony: we have it on ours and it comes standard on every system

MS:Quick, Come out with an ADD ON!!!11
----------------------------- ---------
MS:We dont Need HDMI

Sony: well Ours come with HDMI 1.3, again standard on every system

MS: Quick implement HDMI on our system, make it cheap, go with HDMI 1.2
----------------------------- ---------
MS: We Dont need a Big Hard Drive

Sony: Well we have a PC HDD on Every System, again Standard and upgrading is easy and its Very cheap as well

MS: Quick make a bigger Proprietary HDD, we must compete, no matter how expensive it is
----------------------------- ---------
MS: we dont need a Wi-fi on our system

Sony: ah, we have it standard on ours

MS: Quick make a Wi-fi addon!!11
----------------------------- ------
MS: We dont need motion sensing on our controls

Sony: we have it on ours, its standard, although we are still trying to figure out how we implement it right, like our other competitor who implemented it right even though their 3rd party games suck.

MS: Quick Implement Motion Sensing controls so that we can continue competing!

[salgoods]

is this where all the 360 xboys are? conveintly absent from the article saying the ps3 outsold MS worldwide. yes i came to crash this boring party.

each company copies each other and try to take it up a notch. good for 360 if it can up a notch a motion sensing controller.

why is this thread so d@mn long on something that can be summarized in just 2 sentences?

[Bleucrunch]

Bottom line MS is copying if they wanted to do it then they should do it from the start. They are really pityfull lol they need to fix their broken consoles.

[Zhuk]

This is great news for gamers everywhere, as Only Xbox 360 has the power and the AAA titles to do motion sensing right.

Where Sony and Nintendo failed the Xbox 360 will undoubtedly prevail

[poeo]

HAHAHA :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

pure comedy gold. this guy is a riot!

[Bolts]

He's doing it like he's paid. Not even viral adds are this blantantly stupid.

[ravinash]

But Sony and Nintendo have been doing this for over a year now.
I think both you and MS need to get with the program.

[TwissT]

Hahaha Zhuk strikes again with a totally biased comment, man you are way to funny Zhuk.

[tomfoolery]

The 360 has the best of everything this gen,and this new motion
controller,it will definately lead the pack!
tom

[ArmrdChaos]

So...when is Sony coming out with them Trophies & gamer cards??? I see Sony can be "innovative" too...right?

Corporations are out to make money and they ALL do what they can to get money from the other. The LITTLE fanboys will argue to what extent their Corp of choice does it but the fact is they are all borrowing from previous tech whether tweaked or not.

[pwnsause]

no, no no, you dont get it do you, were talking about hardware, Microsoft didnt future proof their hardware, thus, you now see all these upgrades that make no use for the console.

[Onimaycry]

PS3 is the next gen system xbox360 and wii are a piece of crap xbox can still have the motion sensing if they want but they wont win the console war and wii is so last gen ps2 is better than the wii.

[SIX]

I'm really F#@#ING surprised.

[UltramanJ]

...and as they said, it was a niche product. I'm suprised they're doing it again, but I'm guessing they see there's consumer interest for such a product, so I guess you gotta go where the dollar signs are. If they do it, hopefully they do it right and not try launching it with something like Fusion Frenzy 3.

[OOG FunK]

Ah I hope this isnt some other stupid ass six axis controller...cuzzz if so this would be gay

[ForROME]

WOW, and Xbox (MS) said motion sensing was never needed, nice...

[SIX]

They said 1080p wasn't important
They said HDMI wasn't needed
They said Next gen HD DVD wasn't needed
They said hard drive in all systems wasn't needed

.......well, to there defence. Sony also said that rumble wasn't needed.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

i don't think it's necessary that they put this into all the controllers, if their going to put it in their keep the rumble and keep the price affordable.

spending more money for a controller that can wiggle seams like there over milking the gaming franchise( to many accessories ), sounds ok but i don't really care if their going to do it.

[JokesOnYou]

*typical of sonykids* to think that sony is innovative and micro is not, yet motion sensing was done long ago, but as for this gen, nintendo was the first to implement it, sony only after nintendo revealed their plans later decided to throw in some half ass motion control with sixxasses

*typical of sonykids* to use RROD whenever they feel threatened that micro might just in fact be doing something that gamers may like, ha ha as much as they talk about RROD you would think nobody is playing games since their consoles are all broken and being fixed, yet 360 forums are filled with users talking about gaming, where are the voices of all those with broken consoles and why the hell do they continue to buy so many games with nothing to play them on? and what happened to all the game sites like ign, 1up reporting news of mass complaints and forums/polls of hundreds of gamers complaining?, where is this news sonykids, even over the last 6 months the most I've seen is a vid/post about some guy who's 360 failed, all we have from sonykids are, rehashed statements of old news.

*typical of sonykids* to say something so stupid as: "how this makes micro looks", don't you think they care what nut cases on n4g say?, as if sonykids themselves have ever been good at judging what the market WANTS, hell these are the same kids that said micro having multiple sku's was a terrible idea, then both sony and its loyal followers changed their mind and now have multiple sku's, the same kids who said Elite wouldn't sell because its more expensive and for a bit more you could get a ps3, yet the Elite has been a major success, the same kids who laughed because micro wasn't 100% bc, and of course at that time it was a super important issue to every next gen gamer, only later to say "ahh well the 40g doesn't need it, bc isn't a big deal", damm I could go on with sonykids *typical flip flop* in their beliefs but they have no shame, really all I can do is continue to point it out, shake my head and just laugh, lmfao!

It's not that micro needs to add motion sensing, but if they do hopefully it won't just be some tacked on experience for some gimmicky game, if they do it in an immersive pratical way then those who are interested should enjoy it. once again sonykids, your infamous reputation on n4g is growing, another day, another few laughs=

JOY

[Xbox is the BEST]

why I troll PS news just returning the love to the Sony kids.

[sabbath420]

Dude you hit the nail on the head. Every thing you stated in your post is so true. I have not seen any1 put it so well, how those sony folks twist things to try and make each other all warm and fuzzy. I have so many great xbox360 next gen games and I still don't even have half of the ones I want to try yet. Playstation 3 fans KEEP PLAYING B3HIND!!! You may catch up in a couple of years but buy then I hope to be moving on to an even better more realistic game generation while sony stays on its 10 year cycle.

[player911]

Coming from the Wii and seeing the stupid PS3 implimentation, I don't see this becoming a BIG thing. The Wii controller is very limiting for games us PS3 and 360 users expect. The most 360 could do is what PS3 is doing, make stupid games with a stupid way of moving.

But don't get me wrong, what the Wii is doing (and what hackers are doing to the Wii) is amazing. If I were MS and Sony, I wouldn't put too much effort into motion sensing controls NOW, but next gen will probably be big on it as we push into Virtual Reality (head tracking, hand/knee tracking).

You can keep the "tilt left to go left" crap.

[Xbox is the BEST]

HD video gaming console Xbox
1st to take console on-line gaming seriously Xbox
1st to use controller to start your system 360
1st gaming console to use multi core processor and Unified Shader
Microsoft might not be the leader of innovation but they take it and make it better. The best games are only on Xbox 360 remember that.

[pwnsause]

yea dont forget that they're the first in more than a decade that they are currently emulating the Sega Genesis when it came to add ons like the 32X add on (HDMI of their time) and the sega CD (HD-DVD player of their time) LMAO!!!1111

[RadientFlux]

That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Both the 32X and Sega CD add-ons where used by Sega to force people to buy expansive add-ons to play a few games.

I have yet to play an X360 game that required me to have a HDMI connection and the HD-DVD drive can only be used to play movies.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

*sniff* *sniff* I smell fear!

[Kyur4ThePain]

They are afraid of getting left behind.

[Blitzed]

Add a port of Lair to the 360 '08 lineup. LOL I can't wait to hear TheMart (and his band of superfirends- I'm looking at you FistKnight, Bladestar) to start talking about how Lair looks better on the 360!

[Tyrael]

I dont mind motion sensing to come to the platform, as long as its not like the Wii in the sense that it is required to pretty much play anything you want. I dont care how innovative motion sensing is, flailing my arms or wrists around every few seconds is about as satisfying as a handjob on your honeymoon...

[MikeGdaGod]

xbots make me laugh

[GITPWNED]

droids do the same for me.

[Rice]

If they do release a motion sensing controller, i advise you to get an extended warranty.

[SomeAnalyst]

but soon Wii/360 multis. Equals more games released on both Wii and 360, I suppose. I also suppose MS doesn't want the 360 to end up a niche hardcore product, the way Wii has passed its userbase in just one year.

Wii60 games may be just high-specced /medium-specced editions.
Most likely third parties and MS have seen the writing on the wall in regards to traditional interfaces and simply want a huge market, the sooner the better. Motion sensing expands the industry.

[INehalemEXI]

Yah, 360 will relate to wii's target audience and devs could make more money selling there motion control games on more then 1 system.

It will be a natural step for wii owners looking for a console with a graphical upgrade. If they can pull it off . Hopefully they don't rush it and launch it when they have a few killer games for this thing.

[SomeAnalyst]

Nintendo can pitch lower development costs and Japanese market dominance while MS pitches the Online and HD markets.

[Lord Cheese]

has anyone ever heard of the phrase "plagarism is the most sincere form of flattery"?

[GlossGreen]

"imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". Plagiarism is when they copy what you write.

[moujahed]

How many current 360 owners would go out of their way to Purchase this new controller, just to play games with motion sensoring???
THe same amount who purchased the HD-DVD drive im sure... and will end up just as disappointed with their purchase.

I bet they release a Bowling game on LiveArcade for it, or something similar to what Wii has.

Alot of 360 fans bash PS3 owners, but you guys end up paying just as much if not more for your system to stay current with technology. Where PS3 owners paid the 6,5, or 400$ and dont have to worry about purchasing anything else but some games, and maybe a Dual-Shock 3 if they feel the need to.

I love Sony, I love Sony PS3, I love Sony Bravia, I love the surround sound system, I love my free Schwag from Sony Game Advisory Panel, I just Love Sony.

I also Love Nintendo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

How many people can say that about Microsoft?

[AngryTypingGuy]

Sony is a great company, however many people prefer the 360 over PS3. I didn't get the 360 for an HD-DVD player. I think DVD upconverters are the way to go right now. They are cheaper, have great picture quality, and EVERYTHING is available on DVD, as opposed to its HD counterparts. One day I will buy an HD player, maybe in the form of a PS3 after the price comes down.

You are right, I don't know how many current 360 owners would buy a motion sensing controller. I would if it takes off and a lot of games utilize it. Ultimately, I prefer the regular 360 controller, which I also think is the best designed controller of all time.

I think the main purpose of a motion sensing controller though is to make people who are waiting for a Wii consider buying the more powerful 360.

[JokesOnYou]

"I love Sony"

"How many people can say that about Microsoft?"

well I love some people and even some "things" but I don't love any company, maybe if I owned one or worked for one for a long time, still I would gladly buy the "type" of games I liked from sony or apple if they catered to my tastes, and even then I wouldn't love them or imply somehow they are more worthy of public appreciation as a company simply because "I" like their products, yes there are plenty of anti-micro people but that comes with the territory of being a very successful company especially when you have dominating in a business that touches every facet of our lives computers/OS and obviously sonykids add to the haters simply because in their own irrational mind the 360's very existence threatens them....but even with all the haters the company is still very popular for many of their products and they continue to be successful. also just like you dont have a favorable view of micro, I have a unfavorable impression of sony so it goes both ways.

JOY

[AliC]

Wow this threads hot, and for all the wrong reasons.

[Vip3r]

Didn't Microsoft bash Sony for this?

[shrimpboat]

Yeah they did say Sony was Copying Nintendo but in reality the PS3 has tilt sensitivity in there controller and not motion sensing like the Wii. The PSeye for the PS3 does have motion sensing capability thou. The PS3 has both.

[GlossGreen]

Microsoft wants to compete with this technology, they need to do something innovative with it, not just tack it on to a game as an afterthought. They need to implement it better than Sony has, although, motion control has no interest for me. I don't mind the Six-axis, but I want the Dual Shock 3. I'm a sucker for old tech.

[aiphanes]

What are you smoking...this is all rumor...just like MGS4 and Final Fantasy 13 comming to the Xbox 360...it is not going to happen...just like Microsoft will never make something like PS HOME for the Xbox Live.

[socsca]

Ummmm, don't care.

[jinn]

is there one company in the world that doesn't copy another

[ScottEFresh]

LOL!!!!!!!!! Heres something else Xboters will have to buy EXTRA to play with... suckers. And stfu all of you saying companies "borrow" tech and what not. Of course they do...the thing is M$ borrows EVERYTHING they have ever made...(OS, mp3 players, consoles) just to name a few.

[ScottEFresh]

*typical of xbot fanboy* going on huge rants trying to defend their console and RROD.

[Maddens Raiders]

the tradition continues I see. MS comes out and blasts Sony for imposing "this" on their customers, and forcing "that" on their customers -- only to come back a few months later and do the same damn things they were condemning! LOL What a bi-polar company w/ rampant rrod disease. Like I said over a year ago...I will not be surprised AT ALL to see an XBox Blu-60 by 2009 which would sell like hotcakes, but hey what do I know? I'm just a *lowly forum poster.

M$; you crack me up, and that's why you'll never get my money for a console. MS rides the wave of change violently, abandoning it's prior console altogether, and makes decisions based on market conditions (neglecting the cheap a$$ hardware they're rolling out) whereas other companies take big, big gambles and bank on innovation and new tech to keep the masses happy. I guess that's why they've never won a console war. =/

[Bill Gates]

This article, and all others like it should all just read....

"M$ Still Trying To Catch Up"

AAAHHHAHHAHAHA

[djt23]

wow that alot of comments
go on i want to see more fighting

[Pain]

wow u kids r Really funny. Can we be real for once Xbox is old, playing catch up like mad trying to be beter
at things it cant do like~

adding motion control ..err how about just trying to be MORE then PS3 in everthing. well it cant, to bad.

but hey i wont n never will 'jump in' mabey out of the way of that train wreck so bla`

and btw all iv read in this post it is "if MS dose it,its going to be beter" tothe turd kids u dug yur grave spent yur moms money now play your box if its not dead.

edit x10 i cant spell today ><'

[ddamaged1]

the only thing innovative about the 360 is that people have to pay to play online after they purchased 60$ for a damn game LoL pwned noobs let the flames go up!

[player911]

@Pain - You edited your post and still reads like garbage.

@ddamaged1 - Your a moron. I know you would gladly play for the features that the XBL has if they were available on your PS3.

The Wii has more then one motion sensing, for those who don't know jack about anything and like to run their mouths. The Wii not only has a TILT sensor, it also has IR Track Sensing.

The PS3 has a TILT sensor but not IR Tracking.

So the 360 will require their controllers to have 2 technologies in their controllers if they want to keep up with the WiiMote. I doubt this would happen unless they come out with a radically new controller design that mimics the WiiMote. That said, the technology most likely being used (if this is a true rumor) would be a Tilt sensor which is boring anyway.

@MS - Skip motion skipping on the 360 as it's a boring feature that will lack any game support. If you want to be innovative do your homework and come out with something crazy next gen like everyone else.

[Pain]

Mess? u must be kiding me,u funny kids :P

p.s i care about spelling how? :P

[titntin]

Geez - the trolls are all out in force again. Tons of comments and barely one inteligent remark in the whole bunch of them.

Of course MS are going to copy the motion sensing contols that the WII has - have you not nticed how they are desperately trying to court the casual gamer? There's nothing wrong with this, they are not stupid and won't forget the hardcore gamer that make up the bulk of their audience, they simply want to extend the possabilities of the machine. The PS2 did this for ages with all sorts of wierd and wonderful add-ons that attracted all sorts of interesting games with a broad appeal. There's nothing wrong with MS doing it.

[Eamon]

I personally don't want motion at all in 360.

I have already got my Wii for that.

But I would want FFXIII and MGS4 to come to X360

I emailed Surfer Girl a few questions and she replied that MGS4 would most likely come due to demand but FFXIII is a different story

[TheXgamerLive]

Sony hasn't capitalized at all on it's motion sen.controls.

MS was the first to come out w/a motion sensative controller in the 80's, but even still sony fans don't get me started on saying MS is tryinfg to copy your system, I mean we could say the same for the PSN or even a hard drive in gaming so stop right there, also you copied the Wii's controller and we could say that sony has copied MS rumble even though they said it was last gen tech etc.....

What goes around comes around so give it a rest, M'kay.

Besides, MS is going to have a Motion control option but you don't have to use it, it's only for certian games, for ex. me personally I can't stand motion controlls, I think it takes away unless your doing a bowling type game or something.

[Says you]

Not copy the motion and the rumble video from Atari you dumbass there was no media that was capable of doing that on a console back then and how is copying shoulder buttons a copy I bet Atari copied other consoles before them!.

[TwissT]

I really want to see how Microsoft pulls this off. This will be interesting.

[DevastationEve]

it's not like you need Cell to get a controller with motion sensing. Come ON people, think logical here. This isn't some sort of devine alchemy, we're simply talking internal renovations. They can put motion sensing into it if they want.

Just hope they don't call it by the same missleading title of "sixaxis" (in geometry there are only 3 xyz, with 2 polarites each + and -)

[skimming]

Having both 360 and a Wii, I can see why MS would want to have a motion sensing control.

At current technology, Wiimote is highly inaccurate when compared to 360 controller. I don't consider this to be an opinion but a fact. I can't imagine playing Halo or Crackdown with Wiimote (yes I played Metroid prime and would have liked it MUCH better with traditional controllers or even SMG for that matter). I'd be frustrated after about 10 min or so.

OTOH, playing Wii Sport is very fun with a Wiimote and the inaccuracies don't really detract that much from the experience of swinging the arms. Playing that game with a 360 controller would be just lame.

Having both really makes a lot of sense. Traditional controller for those games that require accuracy. Motion sensing for those games which don't require much accuracy but enable higher emersion due to muscle motion.