Your Xbox has turned into a viable replacement for your set-top box, and that’s precisely Microsoft’s plan. But what about the gamers, we still count, right?
too right - it's for kids - looking more & more Wii-like every 'update'. In fact it should now be known as 'downdate'.
... the one we had before the current one was fine. This just sucks, especially when it comes to those pages with gamescontent on marketplace, which now take a lot more scrolling.
And the ads... Oh those goddamn ads... EVERYWHERE!
you mean like....in the lower right box of the screen? I just got some top gear stuff from that ad. Go figure the majority of the ads offer something to those who want to open them up. Its funny how people see things. The ads are there to sell things because that is what the live marketplace is. The entire dash is a seamless integration of marketable content (games, vids, etc) coupled with your own personal content (games, vids, etc). Many may not like advertising but there are some pretty neat things you can find if you make the choice to view them.
Also, It's still fiddly to navigate, especially when I want to play games I've bought but didn't download straight away.
For the first time, I tried to navigate the dashboard on my cousins 360. It feels cluttered and confusing. Too much fluff and advertisements. How can they have so many ads when people are paying? And don't even get me started on Kinect.
They change their target segment. Simple business strategy and quite smart too. They are also going against Apple TV. That's how business go, go to where the money is.
... not as a media-center filled with adverts! They might go where the money goes, but if MS continues on this path away from being a gamesconsole FIRST, MY money will be going somewhere else!
I assume you don't use your PS3 for Blu-ray movies. Or your phone as a camera. Or for music. Or the Internet. It's just for calls right. I swear if Apple adds one more feature to the iPhone I'll go crazy. This is how technology works. This is what the public has made clear they want through their purchases. A handful of games make up the vast majority of the revenue in the gaming industry. Take away the Wii, which most consider for kids, Call of Duty, Uncharted, Kinect games, Madden, Battlefield, Skyrim and Uncharted and whats left. Take away the top twenty and you have mostly games that didn't perform that well. So if you want more games, buy more games. Trust me, it is about the money. If it's there, someone will try to make it.
maybe this will make a bit of sense. Looking back at the original dash and how it evolved we can see there was a need to increase the number of ads for game related content. Some ads arent game related but the majority however are. The first dash was more like a mall. Each section isolated from the next. You had a game marketplace, a video marketplace and ...that was pretty much it. The concept of the dash changed and became what is now simply known as xbox live. You can still call it a dash because it is the user interface but realistically MS wanted to go for a complete integration of the live marketplace and all its content with the user interface. The result is what we have now but it had been evolving to this point from the prior updates. Everything on the dash is marketable and relevant to the platform from gaming to video to social and other media content. ALL of which used to be in their own little stores (like a mall) but now in a more convenient department store environment. Meaning that while each still have their own section, you can access content from each section no matter which section you are in. I like how they are blending things so I can be on the main page and see information about new game stuff as well as new video stuff and can go to either right from the main screen. It used to be you had to look for the new stuff ONLY from within each section. Now....not so much. AND because the dash IS the marketplace as well should explain why we see ads for new map packs or top gear content (such as episodes and free stuff) or other stuff. People often forget that these adverts are not simply just ads like you see on tv but actually give you stuff in return. Not to mention, they are not intrusive. If it came to be that before you could download a demo you had to view a 15 second spot on recycling (as an example) then we could condemn the dash to the same level as regular broadcasting. We don't though (thankfully).
Its just a damn ui, this hasent changed games at all. You can still play the same games you could in 2005, now.
Well obviously it's not for gamers, the games are for gamers. It's for dashboarders.
Stealth trollers....are still trolls.
Seems to me, like they're using the 360 to test the water for future UI's, more specifically, Windows 8. Which 'will have' a unified design across all MS products. I'm not a huge fan, dont like the ever increasing number of ads. But I think it's going in the right direction. Much better than the Wii (obviously) and, what feels, prehistoric XMB. As is the case though, turn on, play game, turn off. So really, I'm not overly bothered. Edit: Whats the bets the disagrees are for being negative towards XMB... :)
XMB gets the job done pal, the only problem with XMB is during in-game where in some games its very laggy. Wii interface also gets the job done its also easy to navigate. The only reason Xbox 360 gets so many dashboard updates in the first place is because there´s alot of aplications/services ( non-gaming related ) being added to it.
I like the new dash and I'm a gamer, so I'm not sure what to say. It took a bit to get used to, just like all the other dash updates, but I think it's a great update and it's easy to navigate. Heck, if you are having trouble finding anything just use the Bing search, it's simple and easy. I'm pretty easy to please though, I like all three online interfaces, XBL, PSN and the Wii interface actually works well for me and for what it is. No complaints all around.
When did a new dashboard come out?
When I start my 360, the first 2 thing I see are the game in my disc tray and my games library. So maybe if it booted into something else I'd be mad, but it puts the 2 things I use most right in front I me so I'm not going to complain.
The dashboard is no problem. Put in a game, go to the home tab and it is right there. Go to the games tab and you have full access to everything about games. Games have equal standing along with TV, apps, video, music, etc. on the dashboard. Microsoft is simply being smart. In order to sell the number of consoles required to attract publishers to stay on the platform, they are making the platform have broad appeal. Non-gamers buy games like Call of Duty, Madden, etc. too. As gamers we should embrace this because it will lead to the expansion of gaming. It costs over $100 million to make AAA games. Publishers are looking for platforms that will help them sell as many games as possible to potential gaming and non-gaming buyers so they make return on that investment. Why would a publisher spend $100 million to make a game without maximizing return n that investment? Same with Kinect. Broaden the appeal of gaming so that there becomes more gamers out there. And the market grows. And I don't see much difference between this and the Sony approach. Sony are doing the same thing. Remember the vision of the failed Sony Home? Social interactivity and apps everywhere. Sony is pursuing the broadening of their market as well. And so does Nintendo with Wiimote, Nunchuk, and now the tablet. This is not about relegating gamers. This is all about broadening the use of the home console so it stays relevant as people's want to do more then game all the time. There are people who game a large portion of their lives (I'm one of them), but that doesn't mean everyone else wants to. They balance their world with work, entertainment, and activities. Everyone should do the same!
I personally prefer the xmb, its simple and clean and without annoying ads....I liked the second gen 360 dashboard...this one is ok but I prefer it to be design with the controller in mind instead of kinect.
New dash works great with a controller.
You people sure do know how to bitch and moan.
I can literally get to anything I want within SECONDS...............and the dashboard works perfectly fine with a controller.........and I've seen plenty of new indie games in the "related" feature included on every game profile.........and I've found new games through the ads, which are 90% xbox game related.........and I've participated in fun little trivia or quizzes relayed to ganesh, movies, events, which usually unlock gamer pics or themes..........and I can still form parties and have fun socially while I play any games or we all play different games, but we still have the CHOICE to not use party chat if we wanna fully immerse into a game.........and "my games" now is expanded to include full game profiles so I can see related games and extras such as themes and dlc.........and I can still queue up 15 downloads and go about my business.........am I missing anything.......Oh yeah I can STILL PLAY ANY GAME I WANT. stop whining u guys r babies
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