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Is The PlayStation in Crisis?

PS-Analog writes,"To make things clear, I think Sony and PlayStation will be alright but for the first time I am worried about the future of Playstation. When Sony announced that they made a massive loss, in their latest Q3 report, even though the PS3 hardware and software sold massively well. You start to wonder what they have to do to turn things around and how long can they handle these massive losses."

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MultiConsoleGamer4452d ago

If you do the math you learn that this company has lost over 10 Billion dollars (US) since 2008. But if there is one guy who can turn things around its Kaz.

During the late 90s there was a time when the PS division was Sony's only profitable division. Concentrate on your strenghts.

Colwyn4452d ago

i played crysis 1 and crysis 2 and ive never seen a playstation in any of them.

deep_fried_bum_cake4452d ago

I can't believe it took me like 30 seconds to get that.

The PlayStation is not in crisis, although the same can't be said about some other Sony divisions.

Outside_ofthe_Box4452d ago

LMAO!!!

The playstation isn't in cr(y)sis. Pun intended LOL!

ozstar4452d ago

Man, you are so obviously a Sony plant.

Silver_Faux4451d ago (Edited 4451d ago )

Colwyn....you seem afuly suspicious to me. Every article to do with the ps3 or Vita you seem to be one of the first to comment.

So by my deductions your either:

a. A huge Sony fanboy

b. A Sony employee spying on n4g users in a bid to sway our opinions

c. either a guy or a girl im not sure....?

Before anyone grabs me from behind and slits my throat assassins creed style, I am a proud ps3 owner with a + account

Also it took me about 30 seconds to get your comment also,so don't feel bad deep_fried_bum_cake

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DiRtY4452d ago

The PS3 did not sell massively well. It was outsold by the Xbox 360 even with a price cut and Sony lowered the projection by 1 million as well.

Wait for the disagrees for stating facts

SWORDF1SH4452d ago (Edited 4452d ago )

Because it was outsold by the 360 it doesn't mean it didn't sell massively well. Why does everything have to be compared to the 360? It was sonys second best selling year and it wasnt too far behind it best selling year. The quarter just gone was also their best selling quarter for software.

Also lets not forget the huge sales that the 360 had on black friday in the US to reach the levels it did.

RedDead4452d ago (Edited 4452d ago )

PS2 compared to PS3. I agree PlayStation isn't in Crisis Though. 14 million is selling well

tehpees34452d ago

Funnily enough the system in last place often has the best quality games available like N64 did and PS3 does this gen. It makes them stronger to get a foothold in the market. Thats why it happens.

Frankfurt4452d ago

the 360 was the number console worldwide in 2011. come back to the real world, as that old N4G excuse (but the PS3 sells better worldwide) is no longer true. there's been 3 different pieces of news posted here with the worldwide data.

DigitalRaptor4452d ago (Edited 4452d ago )

@ Frankfurt

As far as I'm aware, the PS3 has outsold the 360 worldwide every single year since it came out. That is why the overall unit sales gap has diminished quite substantially over the years. Not quite sure about 2011, but you could be right. The overwhelming reason however, would be Kinect.

CarlitoBrigante4452d ago

14.1 million is not selling massively well? Boy you must be on crack.

The only reason 360 outsold PS3 is because it overshipped in America in anticipation of great december numbers, they sould 1.7 mil 360 while they were expecting 3 million.

Not in a million years will 360 ever outsell the PS3, it never happened since 2007.

thedude444452d ago

Is The PlayStation in Crisis?

Nope, but this article is.

CarlitoBrigante4452d ago

Boy have I missed the Sony teh doomz articles, they slowly but surely start to come back now with a new Sony hardware release: Vita.

Expecting all type of negative articles about Vita the next few months on how Sony should leave earth and sell their product to the aliens because not selling well here.

hiredhelp4452d ago

I agree they may lost money but so do all major company's just luckly sony have more than one line of buisness.
Are they in crysis no, do they need to look for ways to make up for loss sure, Look if they that n the shit the vita wouldnt been launched the playstation 4 is in the works, next model telly's are still being made its just buisness.
Sony knows buisness thoe they do need to kick there marketers up the ass get them to do there jobs better.

Edward754452d ago

I don't think they are in crisis mode yet, but you saying Sony knows business is so far from the truth. They are out of touch business wise. You don't lose money as a company year after year (look at the last 10 years). I believe they, as a company, lost money 9 out of 10 years. I always say, GREAT products, horrible company. (saying nothing against the systems I love, JUST how the company is ran)

hiredhelp4452d ago

Has sony really lost money year after year thoe i mean really..
Wevcan only go by what we read theres no reaf videos of any sony spokesmen saying this.
Way i seen it what sony may loose in one aera make up on another im 33 sony has always been a brand ive grown up with still going.
If thats a company doesnt know buisness then nobody does.
TV's Hifi' portable mp3 players' gaming devices/ now for the big one sony motion movies.. Thats just top my head.

Edward754451d ago

Yes they have lost money over that period of time. The easiest way is to just look at the stock market as an indication. Yes , for the last maybe 4 years they have been reporting losses publicly. And no Sony is not making up for lost money by the other divisions. I would like to think they would, but that just isn't true. Plus there is a reason why the head guys in the company are getting shuffled around or replaced. It's just a series of bad decisions, with an occasional good one. Even if the game division is doing well, on a whole as "Sony" goes it is bad. I would like if anyone can post otherwise I would love to see it.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies19d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken19d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga19d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken19d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6419d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long19d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197219d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic19d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12519d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91319d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer19d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91318d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit18d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher19d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6919d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit18d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher19d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken19d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197219d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic19d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2319d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218319d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder19d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts19d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades25d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken25d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades25d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii25d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit27d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos27d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9527d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia27d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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