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How Microsoft Sold More Consoles World Wide In 2011, And Why It'll Stay That Way In 2012

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What will Microsoft do as an encore to being the best selling game console world wide for 2011?

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Cocozero4884d ago

A pricecut/Halo 4/Star Wars Kinect are all they need to remain no.1 WW. They had next to nothing in 2011 and came out on top, 2012 should be easy pickings.

NukaCola4884d ago

It's simple. Market in America. That is their money maker. Yes they cleared the numbers WW but it was the American numbers that did it. EU/JP figures didnt show Xbox in number 1 or 2.

dark-hollow4884d ago

A gamer is a gamer and a cusotmer is a customer.

It doesnt matter if they were from usa or europe or mars!!

SuperLupe4884d ago

Excuses excuses.

You wanted WW figures, great, now eat it.

WW = WW. Period.

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EVILDEAD3604884d ago

The 360 is in really great position to have a decent year.

The first quarter or so will resemble last year where the momentum of the holiday may keep the numbers similiar, but to predict YOY increase for the first 6 months would be tough.

E3 is the most important factor for what will transpire.

Microsoft won't need a price cut as people are saying. Because the stand alone Kinect will be sold at a lower price which act as a price cut for their main selling bundle.

I like what micrsoft is doing this year in regards to games. They are starting a XBLA campaign here in Feb with Alan Wake and I am Alive leading the way.

I love how Witcher 2 is looking like it has potential to be the best PC to console adaption since Valve gave us the Orange box.

The big boys are dropping AAA monsters from Mass Effect 3 to the new Grand Theft Auto.

I keep saying this..but it is the Wii-U that is the most intersting factor in the equation. If Wii-U still is limited to what we saw at last year's E3 then the 360 is going to dominate the year.

The tablet and Wii-motes simply arent enough to derail Kinect's appeal.

On that note Kinect may have it's best year ever after EA launches Mass Effect 3, Tiger, Fifa, and Madden all Kinect enabled.

Not to mention HBO Go and other Live additions that seem to keep coming.

But, let's face we it..Halo 4 is oging to be monstrous at retail. Not to mention Treyarch comes back with zombies for Black Ops 2 and you have smooth sailing for a pretty good holiday for the 360 next year as well.

If Micrsoft keeps making great moves they are in a good position, but Wii-U is the X-factor.

Evil

yesmynameissumo4884d ago

HBO Go is going to be a great addition to the PS3 too.

Tonester9254884d ago

What does console sales have to do with me? I'm still going to play my PS3 lol

BitbyDeath4884d ago (Edited 4884d ago )

@EvilDead360,

I agree, hopefully MS will counter Nintendo with a new console announcement.

stiggs4884d ago

"Don't let the numbers fool you, XBOX is struggling."

You are DELUSIONAL.

kreate4884d ago

yea im pretty surprised xbox did this well through out 2011. certainly there's a large fanbase.

i just hope the verizon channels work. i tried it last night and i got a error message saying that i cant view the verizon channels cuz the servers were down. im sure this is a verizon issue and not a xbox live issue but if im paying for the service, it should work.

verizon tv + fios internet + xbox gold = doesnt work .... wtf?? o_0;;

*i took a picture of the error screen as proof that it doesnt work but n4g seems to want me to only add a url instead of a image from my pc.

DragonKnight4883d ago

It's really funny. For 5 years the PS3 has outsold the 360 worldwide and these kinds of articles were nowhere to be seen. In fact, the focus always became NPD numbers and how the 360 is winning in the States. Now one year and the 360 outsells the PS3 by a marginal 800K and it's like it's been happening since day one.

*sigh* Journalism.

-Alpha4883d ago (Edited 4883d ago )

@DragonKnight

There are tons of articles on worldwide sales. Of course it's a big deal when MS outsells Sony WW--it's news, isn't it? Do you expect nobody to report this unusual trend? If Sony outsells MS in U.S, you can bet you will see the same amount of articles. Don't play the "conspiracy" card

DragonKnight4883d ago

@Alpha: "There are tons of articles on worldwide sales."

Where are the 3 or 4 "in a row" articles about the PS3 outselling the 360 worldwide every year up until now hmm? Yeah, thought so.

"Of course it's a big deal when MS outsells Sony WW--it's news, isn't it? Do you expect nobody to report this unusual trend?"

Did I say that? Nope. I'm commenting on the clear bias.

"If Sony outsells MS in U.S, you can bet you will see the same amount of articles. Don't play the "conspiracy" card."

Didn't realize stating an easily noticed observation was "playing the conspiracy card."

"I'll tell you what I don't understand: When I see a PS3 sales article that positively shows Sony growing and closing the gap, PS3 fans will talk highly of sales. "Sales are great, go Sony!, Move will easily bring in casuals and hardcore gamers alike and close the gap, GT5 will really close the gap"

But the minute sales are going bad for the PS3, I see a total 180 "I play games, not sales", "Sales don't matter to me", "Kinect is the reason", "Xbox has no games"

Stop grouping people. I don't care about the sales, I care about the coverage. The lack of journalistic objectivity and the evidence of clear bias is what I'm commenting on. If I cared about the sales, I'd say the same thing everyone else has been saying. The 360 outsold by a measly 700K and when it can outsell for 5 years straight then come back and talk. But who gives a damn about that when the media picks and chooses what it wants to highlight the most. 700K is not the "gen ending" sales point, yet the articles make it seem like this mega triumph. Why the hyperbole and over exaggeration?

"If I go to a sales thread I expect some proper discussion on sales, but I see anything but that. It really annoys me when people fight about sales when at this point it doesn't matter, and it annoys me even more that people will find every excuse in the book to deny the fact that one product is simply performing well over the other."

Why are you surprised? You know the most annoying thing is people going to sales articles and getting upset that two sides are arguing when it's obvious that that will always happen. One side boasting, the other downplaying, then the roles reverse. What do you expect to happen? The beginning of this gen, the 360 diehards were all too pleased to rub the 360's success in the noses of the PS3 diehards. That stuff isn't forgotten, and then the PS3 diehards did the exact same thing. It's an eye for an eye topic that isn't going to end any time soon, and you'll get nowhere complaining about it.

Simply talk to people you know won't be party to it and have discussions with them. Let the stockholders on N4G duke it out on their own.

-Alpha4883d ago (Edited 4883d ago )

@Dragon

Sorry I edited that all out because I didn't feel like getting into this, but I guess I have to respond now:

But why do you expect to see articles saying PS3 is outselling 360 worldwide? It's not news, nor is it biased to expect it. A simple "PS3 worldwide sales" on N4G yields results and PS3 fans talking happily about the status of the PS3 brand.

One is new information, the other is an expected trend.

"Stop grouping people"

I'm telling you what I see here: Fans like to talk sales regardless of platform, but not if it doesn't favor what they want the outcome to be. I have seen people expect Move to be the device that brings casuals on to the PS3 by the boatload, sales matter because it's a bragging right, and people love to brag.

"One side boasting, the other downplaying, then the roles reverse"

I agree completely with this and the latter of what you said, though I don't necessarily start the blame on 360 fans-- I recall just as much "Lol Xbox? That thing wont last half of this generation with PS2 around" and later "PS3 will dominate Xbox 360 like last gen, just wait"

The best I can call it is a circle, I don't see reason to put blame one way or another, some people bashed the Xbox when it was announced, others bashed the PlayStation starting this generation, but the comparisons were bound to happen regardless

I am remarking on your excuse that the fact that this happened is journalistically biased as if Xbox outselling the PS3 is supposed to be something common.

Add in the PS3 fans talking all year about the exclusives and consumer variety, about the Move, about the gimmicky death of Kinect, etc. As if not to expect a backlash. Yes, it's a viscous circle, but I don't see why you wont give credit where credit is due. You acknowledge that people reverse roles when it suits them, but I don't see why this should be normal, all it shows me is that people only care about sales if it helps their console ego. To me, if I'm going to talk about sales, I'm going to look at the product more objectively, and as I see it, MS has pushed the Xbox harder while maintaining a balance between core consumers and introducing new fans, while Sony has struggled last year with expanding Move's casual appeal and lack of interest with key franchises like Killzone, SOCOM, and Resistance (both of which sold less than predecessors, and two of which tried to expand appeal by tuning the product towards casuals)

ShinMaster4883d ago (Edited 4883d ago )

Middle-ground troll.
People have different tastes. They can like or dislike whatever they want. Not everyone is going to like and approve of everything or every system equally and fairly. Let's be real.

If people think that "selling more" means/proves nothing when core games are replaced with casual appeal. So be it. It's how they feel.

To me, it's all about the games and who can deliver best.

P.S. These are just Microsoft's numbers
http://i44.tinypic.com/2i06...
Sony's fiscal year isn't even over yet!

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Agent-864883d ago (Edited 4883d ago )

What was the author's source of information to claim the 360 sold the most consoles worldwide? In fact, no numbers or sources were even listed. According to this article (link below), the PS3 sold more worldwide (14m vs 13.3m). In fact, it looks like the PS3 sold more than the 360 in every year listed (2009-2011) and the first month of this year. So, may the author explain to me how "it'll stay that way in 2012" when it looks like the 360 has been outsold worldwide for at least the last three years?

http://www.vgchartz.com/art...

k-dillinger4883d ago

the ppl dont realize that ps3 fiscal year isn't over yet so how are they already saying xbox won 2011 we will know on march 31 when Sony has a complete full cycle like Microsoft.

Anon19744883d ago (Edited 4883d ago )

Vgchartz are guesstimates and have been proven incorrect, time and time again. Do your homework. There's a reason no one, and I mean no one, in the industry takes that site seriously. Not console makers, not analysts, not developers. They simply aren't accurate. Never have been, even back when ioi was originally banned from the NeoGaf forums for posting his sales guesses and started his little fan site in the first place. They even say right on their own site that the numbers they provide our meant for entertainment purposes and shouldn't be used anything serious.

The only true source of information you'll receive is the numbers from the companies themselves. And they clearly show that for the calendar year, 2011 - the 360 came out on top.

However, the PS3 had been outselling them the 9 months prior before the 360's outstanding holiday season. I think one strong holiday quarter isn't enough to go claiming the 360 is suddenly going to take over. It was one good quarter after years of coming in 3rd place head 2 head against it's rivals. If you're going to try to take a stab at predicting the future, I think some perspective is in order.

PimpDaddy4883d ago

Agent-86: All you have to do is look at the quarterly shipment numbers for 2011 to see which console shipped (sold) more. The totals had Microsoft shipping more consoles in 2011 by 800,000 consoles total.

K-dillinger: For the calendar year of 2011 Microsoft outsold the PS3 by 800,000 units. Microsoft and Sony each have their fiscal years start/end at different quarters during the calendar year. Please stop spinning facts.

Darkride66: The 360 outsold the PS3 in 3 of the 4 quarters according to the financial reports. Sony outsold Microsoft by a significant number in the 3rd quarter of the calendar. That coincided with the 50 dollar price drop on all PS3 SKU. But the 1st, 2nd, and 4th quarter the 360 outsold the PS3. Maybe one year of outselling the PS3 won't determine the future. But I think Microsoft has momentum, Kinect is bringing in a new demographic and keep in mind that Microsoft hasn't dropped the price of the 360 since 2008. I expect a price drop this year to further increase demand. I would not be surprised if the 360 did outsell the PS3 for the full calendar year of 2012.

Eddie201014883d ago (Edited 4883d ago )

The only thing that sold the Xbox 360 was them adverting the hell out of Kinect being the next coming. Most of the people that bought into that were the same people that bought into the Wii. So,many of those people moved on from the Wii. Those people for the most part are not hardcore gamers. Also, for a lot of people, after the novelty wares off they don't mess with it much, Me being one of them.

So the Kinect is the biggest reason for the good sales, we all Know how novelty sells (Wii, 3ds, Kinect, Tomogotchi), they sell really well really quickly but they also bottom out really quickly.

For me the best and most accurate ways of playing games is using a good controller or mouse and keyboard. I'm not fond of the Wii mote, Kinect or the move control scemes. to me they are only good for casual games.

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Noticeably_FAT4884d ago (Edited 4884d ago )

The funny part is that all I heard last year was how Sony had all these great exclusives, Microsoft had nothing and then Sony had a price drop and Microsoft didn't match it. So everyone thought Microsoft messed up. Turns out they did the smart thing and had their best year ever and with the more expensive product.

Sony fans must be scratching their heads wondering what Sony has to do to win something these days.

This year Microsoft is sitting pretty because they can do a price drop and really start to get some great numbers. A $149 4 gig Xbox 360 and a $99 Kinect would sell amazingly well.

Also, I forgot about Steel Battalion Heavy Armor and Project Draco, those both look very promising.

I don't see Microsoft letting go of the WW lead anytime soon.

Oh and by the way America=World.

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BitbyDeath4884d ago

"and with the more expensive product"

PS3 is still the more expensive product.

smashcrashbash4884d ago (Edited 4884d ago )

Do you EVER stop trolling about Sony? Anyway I love this gen a lot. They always think nothing could ever happen to destroy or bring down a console. No one probably ever thought that Sony could have taken Sega and Nintendo to the cleaners with the PS1 and PS2. No fanboy could ever see how their chosen system could fall down.

A victory in 2011 automatically means a victory in 2012 and 2013 and 2014 etc. And a high sales in one gen equals high sales next gen. No one remembers the mass migration from Nintendo to Sony or the Wii's sudden rise to power or Sega biting the dust.Sorry but business goes up and down like a yo-yo. Microsoft gaming division could be nothing by next gen.Same goes for everyone else.

jetlian4884d ago (Edited 4884d ago )

well this is a MS article!!! Wii won casuals yes and now its totally falling off.

Edit; by the end of the year 360 should pass wii software sales even with a 30 million console difference which shows casuals dont spend money long term!

Also 360 has the most pirates and still selling games

_Aarix_4877d ago

For every 1 person on here bashing the ps3 there is 17 bashing the xbox.

pandaboy4884d ago

"America=World"

haha, and Americans wonder why their international reputation is akin to Adolf Hitler.

On topic, a 360 price cut with Halo4 could really crush the ps3 in the North American market. Kinect has won over the casuals there too. Sony will be fine in Europe and Japan however.

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majiebeast4883d ago (Edited 4883d ago )

When i see the republican candidate's for america i can see how the 360 is still leading sales you just dont know any better.

Bigpappy4883d ago (Edited 4883d ago )

360 guys are Democrats. They pay their taxes and XBL membership for the greater good.

PS3 guys want to depend on corporations to give them online features. We pay or taxes (Membership fee) to insure we get the best online features.

Tito084883d ago (Edited 4883d ago )

@ Bigpappy- I'm a democrat as well, & I pay my taxes, but I don't pay for XBL!!!!!!So, what does that have to do with being a democrat????!!!! If that was the case, then PC gaming should be subscription based too!!!!

Ace_Man_64883d ago

"Oh and by the way America=World."

And you're called 'Noticeably_FAT'… hmm yeah, sounds about right.

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DiRtY4884d ago (Edited 4884d ago )

I think this scenario is likely. They sold crazy numbers with a PS3 that even saw a pricecut.

The only thing that could ruin this is a Xbox 3 announcement. Other than that I don't think Star Wars, Halo, Fable, Steel Battalion, great marketing, price cut, next wave of Kinect titles and thousands of Apps can be stopped.

Especially the Apps will become an important factor for MS and the industry overall.

I think MS is in a comfortable position right now. Sony needs to make a profit better sooner than later. Nintendo has to show us these "OMG-Moments" with the Wii U and they need to make money as well after a year of losses.

Another point is that all the new studios MS opened need time to get their porjects running. So they definitely don't want the next gen to start before fall 2013 for them.

Shadonic4884d ago

< Die hard microsoft fan MWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAH

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AMD CEO Shares Vision Behind Xbox Partnership and Next-Gen Chip Roadmap

AMD CEO Lisa Su talks about the Xbox AMD partnership, next-gen Ryzen + Radeon chips, and AI rendering tech coming to all Xbox devices.

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Obscure_Observer21h ago

AMD is really building hype around their unique partnership with Microsoft to help and build an advanced and seamless Xbox ecosystem across all Xbox consoles and devices.

I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimized chips" though? Seems ambitious.

Next year´s Xbox Showcase already looks promising and exciting. Here´s hoping they deliver.

InUrFoxHole15h ago

They had best show 3yrs in a row. Heading for another

VenomUK9h ago

Obscure_Observer said “I wonder what she meant by "full roadmap of gaming optimised chips" though? Seems ambitious.” To me, I interpret this to mean rather than having a couple of X/S products for launch and a handheld there is a longer term plan to release new products with higher specs at timed intervals. I’m speculating of course, but this could mean a spec bump every year or two, so that even if the PS6 or Steam Deck Home is released a year after ‘Xbox’ Microsoft can release an updated model that has a higher spec.

KwietStorm_BLM4h ago

It's X3D chips for console. Everyone knows this. And it's been rumored in the PS6 forever.

Ganif2h ago

Correct.

"Sony's PlayStation 6 reportedly will feature an AMD semi-custom APU with a Zen 5 CPU and UDNA GPU, capable of 4K 120FPS and 8K 60FPS gaming. The console will include X3D cache and advanced AI upscaling technology."

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Fishy Fingers21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Some odd, deliberate wording, no branding, not 'Xbox consoles, Xbox handhelds' specifically, feels and sounds like they're building towards hardware that anyone can be used or licensed to/by themselves and other manufacturers.

Multiplatform software and hardware 'Xbox/AMD APU'.

Obscure_Observer20h ago

I guess you missed Sarah Bond´s next generation Xbox announcement this week, were she clearly states:

"I´m thrilled to share that we´ve established a strategic multi-year partnership with AMD to co-engineer silicon across a portfolio of devices, including, *our* next generation *Xbox consoles*."

But hey, I don´t think you´re entirely wrong, maybe MS will build their own Xbox consoles while licencing other manufactures to build and sell their own Xbox branded consoles. Who knows

BeHunted16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I think you watched the wrong video. It's below the description, or you can watch it directly on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/kprpRvsOua...

HyperMoused20h ago

Shares vision....we provide chips for money, this deal will sell many chips, we will make lots of money...good vision

Christopher20h ago

The marketing behind this is so heavy that I worry about the actual outcome. Why are they just not showing us the product, why all this talking in market speak?

Lightning7716h ago

Probably because the next xbox isn't ready to release yet?

The marketing and rumors seem to be heavy out of no where. The rumor was a 27 release but it maybe it could be 26 new console launch instead.

Who knows.

Eonjay4h ago

There PR is alrways super heavy handed. No one is acutally buying an Xbox as is.
Also it is very early to be talking so much about a next gen console.

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Activision Forces Adverts into Call of Duty Black Ops 6 and Warzone Loadouts

With the launch of Call of Duty Season 4, Activision quietly put adverts inside loadouts for Black Ops 6 and Warzone, sparking a backlash in the process.

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lukasmain19d ago

Putting Ads in a pay-to-play Premium title? Well done Microsoft. Well done /s This is really scummy.

jjb198119d ago

This game will never change because these sweatlords love buying up all the skins and bundles that become obsolete the following year. They're the ones perpetuating Activision's greed.

VenomUK18d ago

If Microsoft introduces adverts into its other games I hope it can do them without disrupting the immersion of the game world. So for example in the new Fable game it would look out of place if there was a billboard advertising Cadillacs.

A far better way to do it would be to have a wizard conjure a 'dream cloud' in front of your character and then in the cloud you can see the Cadillac car and see the text with price and availability and hear a booming sales voice promoting the car. That would work so well as it wouldn't be a billboard and completely, 100%, fit in with your character's adventuring in Albion. Doesn't that sound so much better?!

crazyCoconuts18d ago

@venom, or how about our of 100 farts in Albion, 1 of them has a Cadillac pop out

VenomUK18d ago

@crazyCoconuts That’s undeniably off-beat - but it could really work!

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Xbox's first-party handheld has been sidelined

Xbox's handheld ambitions continue unabated, but the focus is shifting towards improving Windows 11 for third-party handhelds — for now. The Xbox Series X 'Melrose' successor is safe, with development continuing at full pace.

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shadowT21d ago

Is there really a market for handhelds next to mobile?

Vits21d ago

If they run the same games as the main home console, then yeah, sure.
But if they need specially tailored games just for them? Probably not, unless there isn't a home console for comparison (see Switch).

RaidenBlack20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I am kinda low-key happy this happened.
Dont want another Series S situation (games to be designed from 4 to 12TF scale and not 10 to 12TF).
Hope PS follows suit as well. Tablet SKU sharing with console for 10th gen, will just continue the cross gen -esque development/design phase/nature.
Want a proper 20+ only TF rasterized next-gen plz (+ frame-gen and the lot).
If anybody wants to continue the cross-gen, the Series S|X, PS5 will remain for that. And Switch 2, if you gotta go even lower in the TF range.

ABizzel121d ago

Yes and No. All of the PC handhelds combined have struggled to sell 7 million units, which would be a flop for any “console”. So the market is extremely niche because of price and target market (the informed hardcore gamer / casuals aren’t picking these up).

These handheld PCs are $500 or more, and offer at best Xbox Series S performance levels, so it’s best for MS specifically to just partner with ASUS, instead of investing millions if not billions.

Sony can make their own with custom AMD hardware due to their partnership, and stronger global brand for hardware. But even then it brings the question, of being a lower resolution PS5, and what does that mean for PS6 cross-gen (likely another generation where the first 3 - 4 years are just upgraded last-gen games).

Kosic20d ago

Imagine a Wii U style console, where the tablet doesn't rely on the console it's self, you download the game on the console under the TV and play in 4k glory, then you can remote play, get some unique game features if using both console and handheld in tandem. Then you can download the games in 720-1080p to play on the go, continue your progress, and continue on the TV when you get back.

Sony could get away with this due to exclusives, and that would be a reason for sales. Look at the portal.

I can picture seeing new hardware having some sort of GPU dock, where the handheld runs 1080p, and the dock has additional hardware to bring in 4k/60 specs.

I do think handheld gaming is going to be a strong future, imagine Nintendo release a new upgraded GPU dock for the Switch 3, every 2 years. More frames, sharper graphics on the same game for an extra £150 for a dock with a built in GPU chip. Console cycles doesn't have to be renewed, just the hardware can be improved by them reselling docks to us again and again with small/yearly upgrades like mobile phones.

GamerRN20d ago

Did you just imply that Sony can make a better stronger handheld than Microsoft? You do realize we are talking about Microsoft, the tech giant, right? If Microsoft can't make one that's cost effective, Sony definitely can't...

Brand and market share means nothing when you are a trillion dollar company

ABizzel119d ago

@GamerRN

It has nothing to do with what company can do it, or what company can spend.

For anyone taking a basic business class there is a term called ROI, and Xbox home consoles are selling at an all time low, meaning their ROI on a handheld is a risk that doesn’t make sense, even if they can afford it. Businesses are there to make money and it doesn’t make sene for MS to invest in a handheld that’s a companion device when their current home consoles they’ve spent 20 years working on are at an all time-low, when they can invest with little risk with what ASUS already has to offer.

This is why Sony can build a better device, because they have less risk involved, meaning they can invest more in their own product, and they already have an exclusive partnership with AMD on creating features and hardware. So in this specific case, YES Sony can built a better handheld, due to custom hardware, customer tools, low level APIs, compared to an off the shelf product running Windows or a Window Xbox kernel =.

TheEroica20d ago

I play steam deck primarily... Don't play consoles or mobile. The deck covers it all.

badz14920d ago

@shadowT

The Switch is a handheld, so will the Switch 2. what are you on about?

Cacabunga20d ago

To run native games offline? Anytime

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CrashMania21d ago

Funny to see the alt already damage controlling and having a meltdown with multiple accounts in the comments already.

Sad for MS if true, a dedicated handheld would go down a lot better than a rog ally 2 with an Xbox sticker on it I think.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

It couldn't have succeeded for a number of reasons. Now they've retreated to the Windows front and trying to keep that relevant for gaming. How long before Windows Central realizes there won't be a real console successor to Series X either?

Lightning7721d ago

Except there is. That project is reportedly full speed ahead.

Outside_ofthe_Box20d ago

@Lighting77

So was the handheld until today...

Lightning7720d ago

@outside obviously not since they sidelined it and they wanna see how the Asus does. Are you saying they're gonna cancel the next console?

crazyCoconuts20d ago

@lightning - I'm admittedly trying to box you in here - Do you think the next Xbox console will have Steam on it?

Outside_ofthe_Box20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

@Lightning

Here we go with having to spell everything out.

If I told you yesterday that Xbox was going to sideline the handheld console what would your response have been? Probably something along the lines of "I doubt that since Phil has been talking about it for some time now"

My point is just because they are "full speed" ahead now does not mean that will not change in future. As we have seen with the handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say now?

Lightning7720d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Box me in? No you said the same thing you've always been saying for years now. Those are the rumors to have Steam integration.

What about it

If you told me they were gonna cancel it tomorrow it would nothing more than fanboy talking points. I only wait for credible sources not what someone else says.

Also this is the handheld not a full blown new console. The Asus is yet to release and they're waiting to see how that thing does. Critical thinking is my strong suit you should try it some time if you can. But Ok cool well you hang your hat on that I guess. Main New console is gonna get cancelled even though the handheld is a different marketing device than the main the console itself.

__y2jb20d ago

I think there is a 75% chance there will not be another Xbox. There is zero reason to buy one now. No way it can possibly sell more than 10m units after Xbox went third party.

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BLow21d ago

That's what they do. Goalposts shift like the wind.

I'm really confused on why they are making a "first party" device and also have a Rog Ally with their sticker on it. Make this make sense. How is their own device going to be any different?

Your console doesn't sell and they expect a handheld to?

RaidenBlack20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The Rog Ally one is gen agnostic ... as you deciphered, it was to be the updated Rog Ally but just with Xbox branding. PC handheld with some Xbox features.
The handheld Xbox is/was supposed to be sharing the same gen/ecosystem with the next-gen (10th gen) Xbox. Think Series S but handheld ... it'll run the Xbox OS or whatever the next Xbox will run.
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As for anybody wondering/confused why MS is doing another Xbox console ... coz mainly its the 10th gen of home consoles next, which started wayy back in 1972 for the 1st gen. And MS wanna be part in it, in the 10th anniversary gen of consoles. If they gotta bow out, they can't do that at 9th i.e just before 10th. They wanna stick around till the 10th or the X-th gen and check what the fuss happens.

Outside_ofthe_Box20d ago

Curious as to what excuses the spam was saying. Because prior to this news, the Xbox handheld was used as proof that Xbox is still committed to the hardware space. This handheld being scraped is not a good sign...

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Outside_ofthe_Box20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

@Spam
You can replace scrapped with pushed back if you like. It's not a good sign either way.

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1Victor20d ago

asq3= obscured: “ What’s your source on the handheld being scrapped? “
Read the article from Microsoft own website and one of your favorite quotations site when it’s something bad about Sony.
Oh BTW good luck with your next SPAM account.

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