Eurogamer: Digital Foundry investigates user feedback on the 'Metro' update.
WHAT??!! IT CAN'T BE!! NO! A negative article about Microsoft??? No the world will end?? What manner of evil is this?? Why have you unset the balance and true world order...Too much? Just trying to point out how ridiculous YOU seem when you claim the world isgunning for SONY only.
people like you ruin this site
What he says here is said on sony bashing articles in reverse, however it gets tons of likes.
How do people like him ruin the site? Sure, a comment here and there can be annoying but I don't let it bother me. I'd say the people ruining this site are the ones who approve articles that have no relevance to gaming news whatsoever. That's why we come here, right? Don't blame the trolls, man! They're here for our amusement, remember?
All I know is that Netflix on 360 officially sucks now
I really hate what the dashboard has become. It's like they took the Windows Media Live app from the PC and catered it to the Kinect without any thought or consideration about the rest of us. It's pages of dumb blocks and everything is in a jumbled mess. I thought they finally got it right in the 2nd year of the NXE. This sick obsession with Kinect has been such a downfall for the heart of what gaming is. I think about 10% of the new dashboard is about gaming, the rest is just media and ads and junk.
'This sick obsession with Kinect has been such a downfall for the heart of what gaming is' LMFAO @ pretending that supporting your device thats bundled and the selling point for over 14 million people is a 'sick obsession'. Nah, the sick pbsession is from the people who pretend that ALL consoles support their devices in some way. Dashboard is fine no matter whether you use Kinect or not. Eurogamer can pick out pixels all day. Movies and shows look great from Zune to Netflix. If they have issues that are noted and they fix those issues in the future with an update then that is all that matters. Evil
Evil, Look dude I know you are there to always defend MS and that's cool. It's your brand or whatever, but I post to share my thoughts. And my thoughts are that the new dashboard is made for Kinect and Kinect alone. I don't like it and I don't like what the 360 has become.
U do not need kinect at all!!! U can navigate it fully using a controller in mere seconds. stop bitching please.
I think the worst part of the new dashboard is the new Netflix interface because it's meant for Kinect and not a controller. I accidently start and exit movies and I hate how movies do not have their own page now. You have change the audio, subtitles or even the episode of a TV show while it's already playing and it might be the wrong episode too. I used to use my Xbox for Netflix, now I hook up my laptop to my TV or I use my ps3. Who is really going to watch a movie saying "Xbox Pause" or even navigate the dashboard with their hands? I'm pretty sure pressing left and right on a controller is not too complicated for people who do not play many games. For the time it takes for the little circle to fill with Kinect someone could be where they want using a controller.
@NukaCola Couldn't agree with you more. The new dash is a crime against gamers. I don't even browse the piece of crap unless I have to. I just go straight to the game now and use the blades if I need something.
They turned something that was once great into a marketing ploy for Kinect (due to its specific Kinect centric design) and made it an ad heaven for themselves so they can earn a little extra cash. I've been a Gold member for two years and never complained about the service and I was thinking about renewing it before the new dashboard released but now I'm thankful because I waited...
Nintendo is hated more on this site when you think about it, because of all the 3DS-Doom articles, the "Nintendo should go 3rd-Party, Software-only" stories.
Video quality I havnt had an issue with. I run my 360 at 720p and I do notice a little bit of blocky-ness for the first 3-5 seconds while the streams are playing back. I think I never saw that before because the old dash would buffer a few seconds before playing and this dash is playing instantly while buffering in the background. i have been figuring out little details that make it better each time I use it. Personally, I like the new look even though I dont use a kinect. I love the new search and how it finds stuff I could not find before. The apps are cool and I especially like how I can use Vudu now instead of turning on my bluray player (an LG with a slow menu navigation). The most talked about issue is the adverts which are still non-intrusive as before. Thing is, most of them are game related or have game related stuff they give you for your curiosity in checking them out. The doritos super bowl ads are worth checking out. I figured out where to find the indie stuff before there was a thread on n4g about it. It isnt really that hard. Best feature is the quick launch where I can do my thing without flipping through the different areas. If a game or app isnt in the quick launch its because it is something I hadnt been using recently. Just like on a PC you can either go searching for the document you want to open or find what you recently opened in the "recent documents" folder in the start menu. That is what the quick launch is equal to. So what went wrong???? That it took MS this long to get it right for everything else even if at the sacrifice of 1080p video. Chances are they will get that sorted out soon enough.
I don't love it, but I got used to it like everything else. Still too many layers if you ask me but playing your installed game is easy enough.
Agreed, it definitely shouldn't take me as long as it does to find the market now:( But hey, still getting used to it.
"xbox bing mass effect 3" finds me everything in the market place in a couple of seconds - personally I love the new dashboard. I think people are just nitpicking and not seeing the future - everything is getting geared to look the same over all platforms, just like sony with their XMB I'm still confused as to why netflix is causing people so much grief, I never have issues backing out by mistake etc, the controls are the same as they used to be as far as i can see.
sorry I meant mass effect 2 lol - already looking forward to 3.
^ Lol, no worries, me too. I think I just miss the old style: scroll, x, scroll.
It's ugly. Clearly Microsoft felt they weren't maximising the adverts on the dashboard so decided to update the ui so that all the adverts are slap bang in the middle of your screen. Whoever designed it should be fired.
whoever thought taking up 3/4 of my main screen is a good idea, or i want it, or i wont be annoyed to hell and back about it. Needs to be fired
By adverts do you mean things like "Forza 4 January DLC" or "New years resolutions" or even "EA Publisher Sale" all of these Advertizements are related to XBOX LIVE and microsoft in general, a lot of these things are things you'd want to hear about or see. The ads I believe you are reffering to are in the bottom right in a small box.
Yep the funny thing is half the people complaining about ads do not have a 360 and think every box is an ad and not just one in the corner that actually says "advertisement" on it.
Yeah but I dont want to see that stuff all over the place only if I go to the market to buy something but then u have a World of Warcraft that just crazy ads on a service I pay for
It's just a strange thing to see when you see people line up to defend advertising. Those aren't news bulletins, those are companies paying MS(not you) to tell you what you should be buying. The point is that screen space could serve much better use, perhaps a real/more effective news bulletin that isn't bought and paid for.
@rob6021 I'm actually not defending it. I'm just pointing out how ill informed people on this site are but by doing so people automatically think I love ads. Also I do not look at the news bulletin on my ps3 and would most likely not look at it if they put one on 360. Just like I do not look at the ads in the bottom right corner...
@rob6021 It's strange to see people line up to bash the new dashboard for hosting a little ad box on the bottom right of the dashboard. Seems weird how the so called "Big" "Giant" "Annoying" box in the middle of the screen which these people keep referring to is just news related, for instance, you go on music and you see the top 10 artists for the year, or on the games page there is a box INFORMING you of a DLC that has been released for a game you own. What i'm saying here is that many of you are blowing this way out of proportion. Also, I like how people say that Xbox Live is a paid service so it shouldn't have advertisements. If you've ever subscribed to a website that has and advertisement page (IGN) or even ads on videos you'll notice that if you actually do pay for the website they do remove these ads... But are all the ads on the website gone? No. Those rectangle boxes that are advertising something are still present. It's just a way for a company to make another form of income. MOST PAID SERVICES STILL HAVE ADS, it's just they aren't as big and annoying. For those of you complaining about the little box in the bottom right.
I don't see any massive issues with the layout (the video bug is annoying but it'll probably be fixed). Its just bringing the 360 more in line with the rest of microsoft's products like windows 8 and the windows mobile and tablet interfaces. The apps all seem to share similar layouts too which makes things nicely consistent. The previous update was definitely simpler, but a change every so often is nice.
The new dashboard is OK if you like advertisements being shoved in your face and only hiving little tiny squares for the actual game interface. F**k it it sucks donkey balls, worst dashboard update i have ever seen and the worst part is your paying good money for this!?
Advertising new DLC, Arcade Games, or Demos are available is a bad thing? There's nothing wrong with that. The only real advertisements are like for cars, and that stupid World of Warcraft crap. Thankfully, it's in a tiny square in the bottom right hand corner and I never notice it.
Exactly my feelings. The whole UI is designed around these advertisements. While it's nice that they try and clearly display them so everyone can see, they can do so without making them the main priority. When I click on "play game" it should be the most visible thing on my screen not to to the left in a place where it feels like it's lower priority to adverts.
Wow....why are u on this article. K every xbox fab quickly go click on something Sony related and say how much it sucks or how terrible their UI is. Hurry....oh wait, no one will do it because we actually click on articles relating to OUR console of choice. What a world
I own an Xbox 360 that's why it bothers me.
@delosisland, you must be new here because you just described the first 3 years on n4g that the ps3 was released. That is exactly what happened here because people didn't like the xmb and they clearly did not own a ps3.
Imo the Dashboard has got worsened over the years wish it still had the blades dashboard no lag and less ads
I loved the original dashboard. You had clear categories with vertically chosen sub categories. No tiny, clustered boxes. No loads of advertisement. The newest is clearly made for Kinect. Waving your hand over a box works ten times better than dealing with varying multilevel clustered piles of those boxes with a directional pad. But the thing that works ten times better than THAT is simply choosing a main category horizontally and then choosing subcategory vertically.
I think it works pretty well, just get tired of the adverts.
the adverts are the only thing i dont like. why is my game small and in the top left corner and an ad huge and dead center? its such a backwards idea.
As long as it lets me play my 360 games.. I don't give a f*ck what it looks like tbh I spend alot more time on my PS3 now anyway since I've migrated over to that for my multiplayer gaming. (free online, no more paying for Xbox Live, I am free!) :)
Good good, you joined the good side :)
Ugh....and they talk about PC elitism. You kids....
They should atleast give us an option to change,i remember laughing when i saw windows phone 7.now I'm sad.
Every time a new update comes, people complain that it is the worst yet. They hate change. A few months from now, everyone will be used to it and you won't hear these silly complaints anymore. The same thing happened with the NXE. Remember when they added avatars and everyone was afraid the 360 was turning into a Wii? Now nobody worries about the avatars anymore and they are a natural part of Xbox LIVE. People on my friends list who hated the idea of avatars now update their avatars frequently with different clothes and props.
Did not like the new dashboard at first but soon got to grips with it and I think its a nice setup.
A WHOLE Effing Lot went wrong, i hate how arcade GAmes are now sorted and shit, its stupid, last Dashboard was great, this was pointless but MS wants to keep that Metro Design evverywhere so it has to be on Xbox too.
This issue is far more important than advertising placements... MS needs to focus on this before anything else.
I see from the comments nearly everyone read the article. That's why this issue has problems getting recognised and MS has an easy time suppressing it. Well, enjoy 1080p video payback from the dash people...
The ads are so freaking annoying! It's like a billboard now my TV. But other than I'm warming up to the design I really hated it at first.
The only thing that really bugs me about the new Dashboard is the Netflix integration. Everything else is fine, no complaints here.
HAHA, let me get this straight: - you guys already PAY monthly for Xbox Live - still, you get ADS shoved down you throut Wow.
Microsoft is taking huge steps back with this BS dashboard, it's impossible to sort your games, your demos,arcade and full games are thrown into one big pile and the ads are just shamelessly invasive, important features are buried under menus and the first thing we see is some stupid map pack ads that I couldn't care less while our personal stuff is pushed to the side. I do not use the 360 to watch videos but I've heard from multiple sources (this article included), that they downsample 3rd party 1080p videos. Microsoft, WTF?
As an owner of both consoles the 360 dashboard is a much needed improvement.kienect is not needed to move through the dashboard. the UI is very responsive with the use of the controler.i use kinect to navagate around the dashboard with ease.evrytime XBL updates its dashboard these poorly written aritcles comes right out. MS creating a unified look for PC,phone,console and later for the windows tablet. ecosystem is the ultimate goal for MS,not just for looks but functionality across PC,phone,console and later tablets.i give MS credit for wanting to give its users somthing new to better the XBL experience.
It stil pisses all over psn dashboard . My Family love the xbox gets used all the time . It's funny but the ps3 used have the more flexible multimedia uses but apart from Blu ray that's the only plus even the exclusives can't pull us from the xbox . Sorry buy the ps3 was not a great design it has some strong points like some exclusives look amazing but the sad point is if you offer a free online service and some stronger graphics and your only keeping up and not surging ahead after about five years after product launched u have failed .MS may not have won this gen but they will see it as a victory after the last xbox which they knew was going to struggle against the playstation brand and they moved on to te next one and look a them now . Good news for gamers bad news for fanboys . O and before you accuse me of being Ms boy I own 2 ps3's which do get used .
Who would have thought that an interface that pc gamers hate and are being forced into would be hated by the other microsoft family. Microsoft is a real dumbass when it comes to treating their loyal fans, all they care about is pulling in more sheep.
So you are just fine with 1080p video playback being removed from the dash. Thought removing existing features was a cardinal sin? Really the comments here prove that most of you didn't even read the article, or failed to understand it. To sum up: 1080p video playback have been removed from the dash. You only get 1080p if you rent movies from the Zune app. Also there is a colour bug that MS has failed to fix since the beta. But if people are more interested in taking about the ads and accusing each other of being fanboys the by all means continue doing so...
The dashboard is really cool. It is really easy to navigate and comes with cool features and pretty awesome Apps. The responses from the media was great and I think it is a big move for MS.
NukaCola said 21h's ago: I really hate what the dashboard has become. It's like they took the Windows Media Live app from the PC and catered it to the Kinect without any thought or consideration about the rest of us. It's pages of dumb blocks and everything is in a jumbled mess. I thought they finally got it right in the 2nd year of the NXE. This sick obsession with Kinect has been such a downfall for the heart of what gaming is. I think about 10% of the new dashboard is about gaming, the rest is just media and ads and junk. ^ Exactly how I feel. M$ is chasing money, nothing wrong there, but they are going at the expense of their old fanbase. The people that got the xbox brand where it is now.
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