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Activision Retracts Statement Regarding DLC, PS3 Elite MW3 Users Back in Limbo

MP1st - "A few hours ago, we reported on the fact that PS3 paid Elite owners will have access to the DLC maps before regular 360 owners. While our report was based on the info provided by one of Activision’s own, Mikey Vega, it appears that he has pulled back his statement by deleting the tweet our report was based on."

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GraveLord4940d ago

If I don't get DLC earlier than normal 360 users I swear I'm never buying a COD game ever again. I'll sell Modern Warfare 3 and Black Ops and go buy Battlefield 3.

Mister_V4940d ago

"...and go buy Battlefield 3." I won't argue with you there.

Urrakia344940d ago

Activision doesn't give a crap, you already gave them your money.

dedicatedtogamers4939d ago

*Ahem*

May I have your attention, everyone?

Welcome to the world of gaming when Microsoft gets involved.

ZippyZapper4940d ago (Edited 4940d ago )

So you hate the fact the 360 owners get COD stuff first but then support PS3 owners who get BF3 stuff first?

If you PS3 boys hate everything CoD then whey is it the top selling game on the PS3? Why do you care so much about something you will never play?

Hypocrite much?

kreate4940d ago

he said normal 360 users.

and I think when a promise is broken, people get pissed off.

also its not ps3 gamers who hate on CoD, its more like battlefield gamers hate on CoD, whether they are ps3 or 360 gamers.

he just happens to mention b3 cuz that is the rival game of CoD.

im not sure what ur angry about or why u care .....

radphil4939d ago (Edited 4939d ago )

@ZippyZapper

A Month's wait for DLC vs a Week's worth, and originally PS3 owners didn't even have that till it was announced just at launch. The week early on PS3 was announced as an afterthought, because originally they were giving 1943 away(in which they did AFTER people threw a lawsuit at them for false advertising).

This isn't people paying for Live vs PSN, this is a SEPARATE service that Activision is doing, and yet still has the DLC locking thing.

So yes, I imagine everyone else except 360 users being a bit pissed at this, because the message they're giving, is that one group of player's money is apparently worth more than everyone else's.

Honestly at this point it's a complete mess. PC users don't even have Elite, people that paid for it on another platform has to still wait a month, and even longer for regular users after that(PS3), and another platform that don't even get the DLC period(Wii. Someone correct me if i'm wrong on this one though).

pc_masterrace4939d ago

dude I wish I could sell my copy of MW3...

..stupid steam account lock-in. >:(

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MizTv4940d ago

i hate this 1month crap with the dlc on 360 if i pay for elite on ps3 why should i have to wait!!!!!

hadouken0074939d ago

Activision got they people picked.

SixZeroFour4939d ago

you are getting it before the ppl YOU play with, why should it matter when the 360 guys get it...you dont even play with them

Silly gameAr4939d ago (Edited 4939d ago )

Because they paid the same price as 360 users for Elite? Is that so hard to understand? They still have to wait for the DLC, so I doubt getting it before their friends is a good enough reason to pay for elite.

If this little understanding between MS and Activision is more important then millions of their customers,then MS must be paying the big daddy bucks. It's only business I guess, but it's bad business.

SixZeroFour4939d ago

the service itself, yea, they are paying the same price but 360 owners pay for live and ms made a deal with activision so their live users have a bonus for being gold members

who knew such a small thing like timed exclusive dlc map packs for CoD would be such a big deal to so many, although still most likely a small minority of ppl...looks like MS made a smart business move

dgonza404939d ago

They had an exclusive DLC deal with M$ for a while now. I believe it runs until the end of 2012..

PS3 and PC Elite is pretty much a 'sub-premium' lol

MizTv4940d ago

i hate this 1month b4 everyone else crap with the dlc on 360 if i pay for elite on ps3 why should i have to wait!!!!!

BX814939d ago

Maybe I missed something, but wasn't it announced along time ago that the 360 was going to get COD DLC early for a while? Elite is a service that provides you with stats, prizes etc. as well as a discount on the DLC. I've never read anywhere that having elite grants PS3 owners access to the DLC. If we use common sense then why would MS spend all that money to get 360 owners early DLC if it's not exclusive?

SJPFTW4940d ago (Edited 4940d ago )

big deal your getting the same garbage as always in the DLC. in the end your getting ripped off except only a month later

Parapraxis4940d ago (Edited 4940d ago )

I suspect the DLC will come out on 3 days:

1st day 360 COD elite users
2nd day (1 month later) 360 regular/PS3 COD elite
3rd day (1 month later) PS3 regulars

meaning in total they PS3 guys without elite have to wait 2 months which really sucks.
I don't think any users 360 or PS3 should have to wait 2 months to get the same content.
Sure BF3 users on 360 had to wait a bit....2 WEEKS, as painful as that was for some, the COD-side looks like it will be far less fair.

Those like ZippyZapper above saying PS3 COD fans shouldn't complain because they got BF3 content early are just being dicks, total freaking dicks.

PS3 owners never asked for BF3 content early or extra Dead Space 2 content or whatever, but Sony thought they too should try to do some stuff like this because everybody's favorite gaming company Microsoft started this exclusive DLC shit in the first place and PS3 owners were only on the loosing end.

Cosmit4940d ago (Edited 4940d ago )

Xbox 360 as well as PC owners only had to wait 1 week for the B2K Map Pack. Not 2.

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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III & Warzone - Season 6 Combat Pack Trailer

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Modern Warfare 3 flooded with cheaters after arrival on Xbox Game Pass

Players are using hacks to gain an advantage in the game, such as aimbots and wall hacks. The first gives a player superhuman aiming abilities, while a wall hack lets you see through walls to gauge where other players are.

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Jin_Sakai335d ago (Edited 335d ago )

“These hacks are typically used by PC players, but those playing on PC via Xbox Game Pass are identified as Xbox players in multiplayer lobbies.”

This is pretty dumb to say the least.

Cacabunga334d ago

All about them headshots for Xbox

badz149335d ago

Gotta pump those numbers up

blackblades335d ago

That's a WTF, they suppose to be labeled as pc users even if its on PC game pass. They mess that up big time.

XiNatsuDragnel335d ago

Oh bad this will be entertaining to watch

ZycoFox334d ago

If AI keeps getting better (and it will) it's just a matter of time before there's more sophisticated cheats even for consoles, and they wouldn't even need to be running on it, I have little doubt about that.

lelo2play335d ago

Don't Gamepass online games have anti-cheat systems?
If not, that's pretty dumb. Microsoft need to fix that asap.

Rynxie335d ago (Edited 335d ago )

They won't ever fix this problem, unless they (developers, publishers, Sony and MS) go after the cheat providers directly. You no longer need to hack consoles to use hacks. During the ps360 days, they were going after cheat devices, but it was a cat and mouse game. These cheating methods were around during those days, it's nothing new, but they kept it under control. Since the PS4/Xbox one generation, they stopped going after these cheating devices and it became widespread. Which I find odd, since they started charging for online play (PS4).

StormSnooper335d ago (Edited 335d ago )

Possibly, this is because the companies were going after cheats because the same cheats were being used to pirate the games, whereas today, the companies use online verification to prevent piracy, thus eliminating the need to go after people who cheat only to gain an advantage in the game. As long as the cheater remains below the radar, and does not completely break the game, the companies look the other way as their wallets are not threatened by it. (that is my completely Uneducated opinion on the matter)

pwnmaster3000335d ago

I mean, COD games was always filled with hackers, nothing new. I can’t blame MS on this. Activision had years to try and fix this. Might take MS some time to make some change.

Rude-ro335d ago

It all depends…
Microsoft’s guidance on how to handle gamepass on pc and their love to force crossplay with pc seems like a them issue.
And they own activision, so it is still a them issue.

StormSnooper335d ago

lol well that sucks.

Is there a reason this happened upon arrival on xbox?

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Activision Reportedly Sold An AI-Generated Skin In Call Of Duty

The Yokai's Wrath bundle was released despite previous guarantees by Activision that A.I. would not be used for final assets, per the report. Instead, Activision assured developers it was simply for internal concepts. That, of course, was not followed through. For what it's worth, per the PlayStation Store, 2,400 COD Points cost $19.99, meaning players potentially spent real-life money on a skin that was not created by an actual human.

As far as A.I. use goes across Activision, a source told Wired that 2D artists are utilizing A.I. to aid their work. That is a result of mass layoffs, in which many 2D artists were impacted. “A lot of 2D artists were laid off,” the source named Noah said. “Remaining concept artists were then forced to use A.I. to aid in their work.” Mandatory A.I. trainings have been implemented, according to Noah.

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boing1338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

I mean, is this even surprising?

just_looken337d ago

It is not ubisoft has a ai tool for crating stories/script's they even talked about npc's having there own ai speech like we see with those skyrim mods.

Ai is the future sadly which sucks in so many way's.

S2Killinit338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

Activision. And MS. They will ruin console gaming forever.

Oh and where the FRIGGIN outrage people? When Sony makes a remaster of a masterpiece single player story driven game, they get roasted. But this, this, goes unnoticed? Then don’t complain that you aren’t getting enough single player story games.

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just_looken337d ago

Ea and ubisoft also use ai

ea using ai for development threatening mass layoffs.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/...

ubisoft ai for npc speech
https://www.theverge.com/20...

Almost every big boy in the industry is using ai in some sort of way now

Oh and sony? well they are making spyware ai were they can see how long it took you to do X and adjust difficultly.
https://gamerant.com/sony-a...

Then you got AI agents
https://www.ign.com/article...

https://www.creativebloq.co...

blackblades337d ago

Sony ai is a patent doesnt mean it came to light

just_looken337d ago

@blackblades

Wow this site every time you say the S word or P word they dive in defend there god its beyond nuts

I said "they are making"

You know a term that means its not out yet ffs

S2Killinit337d ago (Edited 337d ago )

How is that a response to what I said? Are they also selling AI generated skins?

Cacabunga337d ago (Edited 337d ago )

Always bringing useless links totally off topic.. just to try to show you are superior in knowledge to everyone else

…simply laughable

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just_looken337d ago

@S2Killinit

You never mentioned skins in your comment just stated its all microsoft's fault like so many others.

When like i showed they are late to the ball game as every other company is using or plans to use ai in various field.

If you combine everything then its getting closer to hitting a button and poof out comes a game no soul no passion nothing.

Right now its art/3d models/skins/writing/voice work some and coding can all be done via ai.

S2Killinit337d ago (Edited 337d ago )

That was the whole point of my comment, I wrote it in response to the article. Instead of focusing on making exciting games and developing talented developers, they are busy making AI generated skins that people are buying for huge sums of money. Then, some people turn around and shit on Sony when it tries to capitalize on single player classics by making remasters, and the same people then complain that they want more single player games. MS cannabalized the industry because they never thought making games was essential to their business. So, instead of nurturing theor own studios, they let them die, then went and shrunk the industry, hurting interests of every gamer in the world. Anytime there is a bad trend in the industry, MS is at the helm, leading the way. That is what I’m saying.

smashman98337d ago

I'm sorry but do you honestly believe Sony will sit out of A.I. Every executive at every one of these publishers is wetting themselves in delight at the prospect of A.I. You best believe that once we start seeing it spread throughout the industry Sony won't be too far behind. The only people we'll have to blame are the consumers themselves.

S2Killinit337d ago (Edited 337d ago )

No, I don't believe that Sony will not do the same. But, as I mentioned, MS is always the first to embrace such things and create the worst trends. Once they establish that this is the best way to make money, everyone else will follow. (Have to follow if they want to stay competitive)

thesoftware730337d ago

S2, and blackblades:

All from the Horse's mouth below.

"Artificial intelligence (AI) in video games is crucial for Gen Z and Gen Alpha, who seek “personalization across everything,” says PlayStation executive Asad Qizilbash."

“Advancements in AI will create more personalized experiences and meaningful stories for consumers.”

"He emphasized that AI could enable non-player characters to interact with players based on their actions, enhancing the personal connection within the game."

Yeah, Just MS and Activision...smh

S2Killinit337d ago

I’ve already explained myself twice. Quit your false equivalence, same thing the xbox fateful pulled before and after the ABK acquisitions. Which by the way, blew up in your faces real good. Now, doing the same thing when someone brings up MS’s nefarious behavior, defend them to the end, and watch them scorch gaming as they have been. At least rest of us can take consolation in that the smoke will go in your eyes before anyone else’s.

thesoftware730337d ago (Edited 337d ago )

"Quit your false equivalence, same thing the xbox fateful pulled before and after the ABK acquisitions. Which by the way, blew up in your faces real good."

I'm not sure what you are talking about, you seem to have a issue communicating, because we are on a post about using AI to create video games content, and you put that solely at the feet of MS and Activision, when it's being, and will be used industry wide, right from Sony mouth, I would say it's relevant...then you went on to give Sony a spit shine slob down about a masterpiece TLoU when this had absolutely nothing to do with Sony or TLoU, then you attempted to clean up your rambling spit shine with no real backing for a ridiculous comment.

Obviously you meant to post that nonsensical over exaggerated comment. I also don't know what blew up in people faces, I am perfectly fine with the game industry, I don't have time to be internet outraged about nothingness.

Really read your comment and listen to what you said.

"Activision. And MS. They will ruin console gaming forever."

Bro, for real? Really? Seriously? It's that serious? So there is nothing Sony and Nintendo can do against MS and Activision? MS is 3rd place with you even talking about?

If we stay relevant on MTX, then you still sound ridiculous because again, you lay it all at MS and Activision's feet when almost all companies have used some form of MTX, including yup... Sony.

S2Killinit333d ago

I read this comment, it boiled down to “seeiously?”.

My answer: yes seriously. Since you didn’t say anything else, what else can I tell you? Yes MS is seriously ruining gaming. They have been for some time, and working their way to where we are today, and aren’t even done yet. MS are the worst thing to happen to console gaming.

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swedishMeatwad337d ago

"The Yokai's Wrath bundle was released despite previous guarantees by Activision that A.I. would not be used for final assets, per the report."

We're talking concept art? Because as of right now there's no way to generate a final 3D model with final textures. So the final assets don't use AI. That's not to say that it sucks for 2D artist that it's easier to generate visual ideas and build from them leading to less 2D artists needed (really sucks), but are they say the final concept art was completely AI generated and then 3D artists built from that? And yes, I'll pile on that Activision as a publisher and their developers I have experience with suck and they'll do whatever, ethics be damned.

OldDuffer337d ago

Thats actually a very useful and informative piece, thank you.

just_looken337d ago

@OldDuffer

Your welcome though it seems it went over many users heads.

PapaBop337d ago

Wow I can just imagine the likes of Activision, EA and Ubi etc having an army of AIs creating overpriced crap and the fanboys just lapping it up. I hope the AIs have a good union.

montebristo337d ago

I understand why people think it’s good idea to Unionize to fight back against such things but it’s not. It’s a bad idea. It’s activisions wet dream to have these pumped out weekly by some AI. Protect your neck!

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