I agree 100%. People are going around saying the Wii U will be the weakest console next gen. But we don't know that. All the consoles are being developed now and we don't know what will be the most powerful.
Well considering the Wii U will come out a decent amount of time before the ps4 and nextbox, it is likely that it will be a little less powerful than the other two systems. Only a little though, I don't imagine the gap being very big. Like you said though, there is still no way to know for sure what happens.
If the next Xbox and PS cant beat the Wii U in graphics, then everyone will definitely be disappointed.
It's almost like the entire industry will be expecting it.
It really depends on what they consider more powerful, whether it's 4 times or 10 times more powerful than a PS3/360, we'll have to wait and see.
All I know is that the leap from PS1 to PS2 was a huge leap and the leap from PS2 to PS3 was also huge. So if the next PS is only a small jump from the PS3, then there's almost no point in anybody investing in a new PS4 if that's the case.
"What? Not a single next gen console is out yet. And no, introducing a protoype model at E3 doesn't count for much."
You really think ps4 and nextbox will come out immediately after wii u? I imagine the other next gen consoles will come out in 2013 at the earliest, and with them coming out a year later it is reasonable to think the newer systems will probably have a little better tech. Not to mention, there is no way Sony and MS would want to have a weaker system than nintendo.
If the Wii U is just as powerful as the Next PS4/720, then Sony and Microsoft will release right after or at the same time. But if its not, then they will come out a year after.
Honestly...I'm hoping next generation is all about the games. Nintendo and Sony both have great first party studios. Will Microsoft continue to publish for other companies or will they gain more studios? If Sony's first party studios come out of the gate, full force...nobody else has a prayer.
There are two things I want next gen: great games, and no online passes. Well, I guess it's one thing I want and one thing I don't want. I'm no graphics whore: I can play games in 720p or less, and they don't have to be 60fps. The games don't have to necessarily be AAA titles. I still haven't spent as much time this gen as I have on games like Persona 3 FES last gen or Breath of Fire III the gen before. Valkyria Chronicles or GT5 would probably be the closest, and there's like a hundred hours or more in difference.
Well, the misconceptions part is due to the very poor revealing of the Wii U. Nothing else, and for that Nintendo is to blame. That is for sure.
The rumors part is due to people trying to get ahead of themselves by guessing stuff, instead of waiting for confirmation, which will come until E3.
Then there's the facts, but I didn't read the article so I guess there are not many right now, but then again, we will have to wait to E3 for more information.
So this story is just reduced to a single fact: Wait until E3.
You heard it here first... Nintendo will rule next gen. The games they are gonna produce(with the best devs in the business) prepare to be amazed. Their artistic devs with power 3-5 times that of PS3... Man I can't wait!
Just like I said best in the business. No one makes better games. In my opinion they had 4 of the best games this gen on a non HD console. So give them 3-5 times power of PS3 and the competition has a problem on their hands.
Sorry, but I don't think there's a dev out there doing what Team Ico and Naughty Dog do with their games. Quantic Dreams, Media Molecule, Polyphony Digital and others are at the top of the game.
I'm not saying Nintendo's got some bad developers on their side. But I won't take Metacritic into consideration when considering quality because that system has obvious flaws. And I won't take sales numbers as an indication, with games like Call of Duty breaking records.
What I take is the opinions of people who have been gaming for longer than this generation. People who play multiple varieties of games.
Hell, how many developers can you name for Nintendo? On the other hand, how many for Microsoft or Sony? When the gamers know who you are- not just Miyamoto- and they talk about how good your games are- or think your most recent game fell a little short- that's when you start getting considered for quality.
"But I won't take Metacritic into consideration when considering quality because that system has obvious flaws. And I won't take sales numbers as an indication, with games like Call of Duty breaking records.
What I take is the opinions of people who have been gaming for longer than this generation. People who play multiple varieties of games."
You're just taking opinions from other Sony fans who are obviously going to pick those two devs because they work for Sony. Also, I've been playing games since the old Atari days and I say Nintendo has the best devs.
"Hell, how many developers can you name for Nintendo? On the other hand, how many for Microsoft or Sony? When the gamers know who you are- not just Miyamoto- and they talk about how good your games are- or think your most recent game fell a little short- that's when you start getting considered for quality."
That is just so stupid. Just because you make yourself well known to the public doesn't mean you are better at something. (exibit A: http://readtechnews.com/wp-... . Both died in the same week however the more influential person was basically completely ignored) Plus, Nintendo doesn't have many outside devs that don't have the Nintendo name. Besides Retro, they pretty much just slap a Nintendo logo on there.
Sorry man, but you seem a little ignorant towards Nintendo.
"Hell, how many developers can you name for Nintendo"
Retro Studios - Metroid, DKC Returns Monolith - Xenoblade, Disaster Day of Crisis HAL Labratory - Kirby, Smash Bros Intelligent Systems - Paper Mario, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars Project Sora - Smash Bros, Kid Icarus ND Cube ("Wii" games) EAD Group 2 – Animal Crossing series, Wii-branded games EAD Group 3 – The Legend of Zelda series EAD Group 4 – Pikmin series, New Super Mario Bros., Big Brain Academy EAD Group 5 – Wii Fit, Steel Diver with Vitei EAD Tokyo – Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Super Mario Galaxy EAD 1 Mario Kart, Luigi's Mansion
(Of course this isn't all, just off the top of my head)
You only take OPINIONS? Over factual data, NUMBERS?? That makes perfect sense =/. Besides, I've been gaming for longer than this gen so I guess that means that you have to listen to my opinion......
But yea to the whole ignorance thing, you made it sound as if Nintendo has no devs. Fact-of-the-matter is, Nintendo has just as many as Sony.
Well the fact is the ps3 released a year after the 360 but that doesn't mean that the ps3 was an order of magnitude more powerful than the 360. It doesn't happen that way, u better believe that by the time the Wii u hits retail both Sony and Microsoft will initially have their systems at least in a its final stages or configurations. The things they maybe playing with at that point will be ram amounts, HDD size,etc...
Personally, I think if the Wii U graphics is slightly(30%-50%) better than PS3/360 with mind-blowing fully animated fore-ground vs backgrounds that surpasses anything 360/PS3 have ever done in the past; than the Wii U might be a success when it comes out. That said, I would pick fully animated scenes over mountain load of still graphics any day.
I agree 100%. People are going around saying the Wii U will be the weakest console next gen. But we don't know that. All the consoles are being developed now and we don't know what will be the most powerful.
""The PS3 would have done better in my opinion if the starting price had been $499 like the 360""
thats from the article which is wrong, the ps3 was 499 and 599, the 360 was 399 and 299
If the Wii U is just as powerful as the Next PS4/720, then Sony and Microsoft will release right after or at the same time. But if its not, then they will come out a year after.
Me personally I hope they all come out 2012.
Honestly...I'm hoping next generation is all about the games. Nintendo and Sony both have great first party studios. Will Microsoft continue to publish for other companies or will they gain more studios? If Sony's first party studios come out of the gate, full force...nobody else has a prayer.
Well, the misconceptions part is due to the very poor revealing of the Wii U. Nothing else, and for that Nintendo is to blame. That is for sure.
The rumors part is due to people trying to get ahead of themselves by guessing stuff, instead of waiting for confirmation, which will come until E3.
Then there's the facts, but I didn't read the article so I guess there are not many right now, but then again, we will have to wait to E3 for more information.
So this story is just reduced to a single fact: Wait until E3.